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Ushtari
08-01-2011, 03:37 PM
John Cena is an American actor, rapper, and professional wrestler, of Irish and Albanian origin.

http://www.johncena4u.com/chain-gang/2007/09/john-cena25.jpg
http://www.john-cena-posters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/john-cena-record.jpg
http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/12/09/previews/John%20Cena-SGY-005403.jpg
http://www.wrestlingsuperstars.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/John-Cena-and-Vince-McMahon.jpg
http://www.j-cena.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/flair-and-cena-medium.jpg

Husaria
08-01-2011, 03:39 PM
Borreby/Faelid Nordid

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 03:42 PM
Half-Albanian? That's bullshit, if he was half-Albanian he'd come out and say it like every other Shitpar but he hasn't he is half-Irish, half-Italian like every other American out there.

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 03:44 PM
Half-Albanian? That's bullshit, if he was half-Albanian he'd come out and say it like every other Shitpar but he hasn't he is half-Irish, half-Italian like every other American out there.
https://static.flashback.org/img/smilies2/whoco5.gif

Cena is an Albanian surname, and given that he is half "italian", its obvious that he is Arbereshe.

Mordid
08-01-2011, 03:48 PM
https://static.flashback.org/img/smilies2/whoco5.gif

Cena is an Albanian surname, and given that he is half "italian", its obvious that he is Arbereshe.

Just because his last name is Cena doesn't mean he's half Albanian.
According to his wiki ancestry, he's half Irish and half Italian.

Cena, who is of Irish and Italian descent was born April 23, 1977, in West Newbury, Massachusetts,[4] the son of Carol and John Cena, Sr.[12] He is the second eldest of five brothers – Dan, Matt, Steve, and Sean.[13] After graduating from Cushing Academy, Cena attended Springfield College in Springfield, Massachusetts.[14] In college he was a Division III All-American center on the college football team,[15] wearing the number 54,[14] which is still used on some of his WWE merchandise.[16][17] He graduated from Springfield in 1998 with a degree in exercise physiology,[18] after which he pursued a career in bodybuilding,[19][20] and also worked as a chauffeur for a limousine company.[21]

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 03:48 PM
https://static.flashback.org/img/smilies2/whoco5.gif

Cena is an Albanian surname, and given that he is half "italian", its obvious that he is Arbereshe.

Based on what evidence? Cena means dinner in Italian now fuck off shitpar.

Odoacer
08-01-2011, 04:02 PM
The distribution of "Cena" in Italy doesn't seem quite consistent with Arbėreshė origin:

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CENA&k=FF&t=cognomi-prov&s=C

Apparently, "Cena" is not a singular surname & can be found in many different areas (here we see concentrations in Italy, Spain, Kosovo, & Poland):

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12994&stc=1&d=1312214499

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 04:10 PM
Just because his last name is Cena doesn't mean he's half Albanian.
According to his wiki ancestry, he's half Irish and half Italian.
Just because it says so on wiki, it doesn't automatically means its true.

His mother(or father) moved from Italy to American, thus it can be confused. Because there is a large ethnic Albanian community in Italy, also known as Arbereshe who settled there in 1500's, and Cena is a very common Albanian surname.


Based on what evidence? Cena means dinner in Italian now fuck off shitpar.
Cena is not an Italian Surname, i just asked the italian member Bard and he have never encountered a italian person with the surname Cena.


The distribution of "Cena" in Italy doesn't seem quite consistent with Arbėreshė origin:
Arbereshe was just a theory, you have to take into account that about 350.000 Albanians migrated to Italy between 1990-2000, and most of them live in northern part, ie where Cena is most common according to your map.

Turkophagos
08-01-2011, 04:14 PM
This guy probably doesn't even know how to place Albania in a map. Otherwise, he would probably sue you for calling him an Albo.

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 04:16 PM
John's full name: John Felix Anthony Cena... yeah, that's so Albanian. :laugh:

Bard
08-01-2011, 04:17 PM
I'd rather not to get dragged into this brawl :D

I'm from the northeast and I've met very few italians from piedmont (northwest), therefore my experience is limited, I think that he is italian, from the northwest, as the chart shows.
If he was part of the arbereshe community, his surname would be spread in the south as well don't you think?

Turkophagos
08-01-2011, 04:20 PM
http://f1velocity.iespana.es/images/senna2.jpg



BTW, Ayrton Senna was half Albanian too.

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 04:22 PM
I'd rather not to get dragged into this brawl :D

I'm from the northeast and I've met very few italians from piedmont (northwest), therefore my experience is limited, I think that he is italian, from the northwest, as the chart shows.
If he was part of the arbereshe community, his surname would be spread in the south as well don't you think?
As i said, Arbereshe was just the first thing that popped out of my head. But given that Cena is a VERY common Albanian surname, the chance of him being of Albanian origin is rather big, but he might as well, just as you say be of Italian origin.

Also, as i just said, about 350.000 Albanians moved to italy between 1990-2000 and most of them(according to you) live in the northern part.

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 04:23 PM
As i said, Arbereshe was just the first thing that popped out of my head. But given that Cena is a VERY common Albanian surname, the chance of him being of Albanian origin is rather big, but he might as well, just as you say be of Italian origin.

Also, as i just said, about 350.000 Albanians moved to italy between 1990-2000 and most of them(according to you) live in the northern part.

Cena was born in America in 1977 retard.

Mordid
08-01-2011, 04:23 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/eclipse6000/YouGottaBeKiddingMe.jpg

Turkophagos
08-01-2011, 04:25 PM
Also, as i just said, about 350.000 Albanians moved to italy between 1990-2000 and most of them(according to you) live in the northern part.



John Cena was born in 1977 you genious...

Odoacer
08-01-2011, 04:25 PM
Cena was born in America in [1977] retard.


John Cena was born in 1977 you genious...

Yes, but it's a fair point that the immigration of Albanians to Italy in the '90s would affect the distribution of "Cena" within Italy to favor the north, if indeed most of those Albanians settled in the north. However, I think it's best not to presume Albanian origins for John Cena without further information.

Bard
08-01-2011, 04:25 PM
As i said, Arbereshe was just the first thing that popped out of my head. But given that Cena is a VERY common Albanian surname, the chance of him being of Albanian origin is rather big, but he might as well, just as you say be of Italian origin.

Also, as i just said, about 350.000 Albanians moved to italy between 1990-2000 and most of them(according to you) live in the northern part.

Yes, but it's weird that the surname have such a a high concentration in that area, I mean, there are many albanians even in the north east, and there are nearly no people with that surname! The concentration in such a highly specific area would make me believe that the surname is just italian.
This is just my opinion of couse, and I don't really want to claim Cena.

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 04:26 PM
Cena was born in America in 1971 retard.
I was trying to explain a possible reason for the surname Cena being common in the northern part.

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 04:28 PM
John Cena was born in 1977 you genious...

Yeah, exactly. Shiptari being desperate to prove John is Albanian borders on pathetic. If he was indeed Albanian, there'd be more evidence, but there is nothing, zero, zilch that suggests he is Albanian other than bullshit name theory which is easily refuted if we look at his first three very Italian names. :coffee:

Odoacer
08-01-2011, 04:31 PM
Yeah, exactly. Shiptari being desperate to prove John is Albanian borders on pathetic. If he was indeed Albanian, there'd be more evidence, but there is nothing, zero, zilch that suggests he is Albanian other than bullshit name theory which is easily refuted if we look at his first three very Italian names. :coffee:

That wouldn't necessarily be proof of anything, though. My Arbėreshė ancestors all had very Italian names, too. Giuseppina Licursi, for example. "John Felix Anthony" is as likely to be Irish as Italian, anyway - they're just English Catholic names.

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 04:32 PM
That wouldn't necessarily be proof of anything, though. My Arbėreshė ancestors all had very Italian names, too. Giuseppina Licursi, for example. "John Felix Anthony" is as likely to be Irish as Italian, anyway - they're just English Catholic names.

Why didn't Cena claim to be half-Albanian then? Sounds like a bad Shiptar nationalist.

Turkophagos
08-01-2011, 04:34 PM
My Arbėreshė ancestors all had very Italian names, too. Giuseppina Licursi, for example.


Because they were already predom. Italian already, with some "Arbereshe" ancestors?

Neanderthal
08-01-2011, 04:34 PM
Brünn/Faelid + Atlanto/Nordoid.

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 04:35 PM
Because they were already predom. Italian already, with some "Arbereshe" ancestors?
Many if not most? Arbereshe, have adopted italian names.

Peerkons
08-01-2011, 04:36 PM
And not even a single fuck was given that day.

Mordid
08-01-2011, 04:55 PM
By Ush rep ;
And since when did you start with this anti-albanian tone?? and no im not refering to this thread only...
I was pointin' it out that he's not half Albanian, but half Italian. How does that make me anti-Albanian ? :confused:
Please, stop acting like an Albanian.

Ushtari
08-01-2011, 04:58 PM
By Ush rep ;
I was pointin' it out that he's not half Albanian, but half Italian. How does that make me anti-Albanian ? :confused:
Please, stop acting like an Albanian.
I was referring to your earlier posts in earlier threads, and rep comment to me lately and involvement in matter you have no clue about, just to troll.

Odoacer
08-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Why didn't Cena claim to be half-Albanian then? Sounds like a bad Shiptar nationalist.

Assuming he is actually of Arbėreshė descent (which I don't assume because I don't think there's enough information to draw that conclusion), it would probably be because 1) he doesn't know anything about it & 2) it is mixed with Italian anyway. Most Arbėreshė in the U.S. associated & identified with Italians, if they weren't already mixed.


Because they were already predom. Italian already, with some "Arbereshe" ancestors?

The Arbėreshė mostly adopted Italian names, as Ushtari pointed out, & often their surnames were Italianized. My ancestor Giuseppina Licursi had an Italianized Arbėreshė surname; in all likelihood she came from an Arbėreshė, not Latin, community. But it's also true that the Arbėreshė were not immune to mixing with the local Italians - that also happened in my family tree.

Mordid
08-01-2011, 05:01 PM
I was referring to your earlier posts in earlier threads, and rep comment to me lately and involvement in matter you have no clue about, just to troll.

What rep ? I dont give you rep, for god sake. You must be mistake me for someone. I'm not trollin, I'm just making my fackin point. Fuck it! I realise that I shouldn't talk with subhuman Albanian. :) PEACE, Y'ALL

GeistFaust
08-01-2011, 05:04 PM
He looks to be Predominantly Brunn.

Sturmgewehr
08-01-2011, 05:36 PM
Half-Albanian? That's bullshit, if he was half-Albanian he'd come out and say it like every other Shitpar but he hasn't he is half-Irish, half-Italian like every other American out there.

I have a cousin in CHicago that has got his autograph and asked him Personally if he has Albanian Descent, John Cena himself told him that one of his grandparents was Albanian.

Have a good day.

poiuytrewq0987
08-01-2011, 05:37 PM
I have a cousin in CHicago that has got his autograph and asked him Personally if he has Albanian Descent, John Cena himself told him that one of his grandparents was Albanian.

Have a good day.

:dielaughing:

Peerkons
08-01-2011, 05:38 PM
He looks to be Predominantly Brunn.

What about the massive/prominent jaw - couldn't that be some CM trait?

Turkophagos
08-01-2011, 07:16 PM
I have a cousin in CHicago that has got his autograph and asked him Personally if he has Albanian Descent, John Cena himself told him that one of his grandparents was Albanian.

Have a good day.



:lol00002:

supergiovane
08-01-2011, 07:53 PM
surname Cena is from Piedmont, looking at the white pages doesn't really seem to be from albanian immigrants given the first names are all italian.
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi?iq=&ver=default&font=default&btt=1&mr=10&rk=&om=&qs=cena+&dv=piemonte

I suspect Cena is of sicilian descent and his original name was changed or mispelled at Ellis Island or somewhere else, did you see The Godfather II?

Svartįlfar
08-02-2011, 06:51 PM
Here is the distribution of surname Cena in Italy.

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CENA&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C

http://www.volint.it/vis/files/images/cartina%20presenza%20immigrati%20in%20italia_0.jpg

And here is the distribution of immigrants in Italy. Albanians are in light orange. As you can see the surname Cena and the albanian presence in Italy do not correlate.

Aviane
08-06-2011, 07:01 PM
I have a cousin in CHicago that has got his autograph and asked him Personally if he has Albanian Descent, John Cena himself told him that one of his grandparents was Albanian.

Have a good day.

I believe you in that sense I remember one day when me and a Italian guy was talking about French and Italian culture, as we where talking about Italian Americans for examples, he confessed that alot of Italian Americans (well atleast) were actaully of Albanian/Arbreshe descent.

So you have a right that say your bit here.

List of Albanian Americans

Laura Mersini – theoretical physicist-cosmologist
Ferid Murad – medical researcher Nobel laureate
Andrea Shundi – notable agronomist
Stavro Skėndi – linguist and historian
James Belushi – actor
loreta mansuli-singer
John Belushi – actor
James Biberi – actor
Julie Bovasso – actress
Eliza Dushku – actress
Nate Dushku – actor
Enver Gjokaj – actor
Ana Golja – actress
Lynn Herring – actress
Agim Kaba – actor and film producer
Masiela Lusha – actress
Peter Malota – actor
Antoinette Nikprelaj – actress
Andrew Binaj – film producer
Laureta Meci – actress
Rita Wilson – actres
Luke Burbank – radio and podcast host
Emina Cunmulaj – model
Gretchen Carlson – TV presenter and former Miss America
Kara DioGuardi – songwriter
Tony Dovolani – professional ballroom dancer
Stan Dragoti – film director, producer, artist
Gjon Mili – a pioneer photographer
Regis Philbin – television
Prolifik – rapper and radio personality
Elvir Muriqi – professional boxer
Erza Haliti – Miss Idaho 2011
Anthony Athanas – restaurateur and patriot
Ekrem Bardha – businessman and patriot
Florin Krasniqi – businessman and nationalist (patriot)
Ramiz Tafilaj – businessman, political activist
John Alite – mobster
Ismail Lika – mobster
Alex Rudaj – mobster
Fadil Berisha – photographer
Bill Kovach – journalist/editor
Donald Lambro – journalist
Eric Margolis – journalist, and editor to the Toronto Sun, mother is Albanian
Gjeke Marinaj – poet, writer, journalist, pedagogue
Gjon Mili – photographer
Burim Myftiu – photographer
Tom Perrotta – novelist and screenwriter
George Tames – photographer for the New York Times
Nick Tosches – journalist, novelist, biographer, and poet
Nexhmie Zaimi – journalist and mother of Eric Margolis
Joseph J. DioGuardi – congressman
Konstantina Lukes – Mayor of Worcester, Massachusetts
Fan S. Noli – former Prime Minister of Albania and founder of the Albanian Orthodox Church
William G. Gregory – astronaut
Dilly Duka – MLS soccer player
Lee Elia – baseball player, coach and manager
Elvir Muriqi – boxer
Aaron Palushaj – professional hockey player
Tie Domi - professional hockey player
John Cena - boxer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Albanian_Americans
http://ethnicelebs.com/john-cena

Dinarid + Cromagnoid perhaps.

Leon_C
08-01-2013, 10:47 AM
Would not have guessed he was Irish and Italian, he looks like this German guy.

http://i.imgur.com/Ks796Ai.jpg

ChocolateFace
08-01-2013, 11:07 AM
Brunn. He has something Albanian in his appearance.

Can pass as Albanian or Irish. Can not pass as Italian.

here's tommy
11-15-2013, 04:02 AM
Brunn and maybe some faelid but he looks mainly irish and german and not very italian or albanian

MINARDOWICZ
11-15-2013, 04:15 AM
Half-Albanian? That's bullshit, if he was half-Albanian he'd come out and say it like every other Shitpar but he hasn't he is half-Irish, half-Italian like every other American out there.

WTF is wrong with you?!?!?!?1

Italians are not the majority in the US! That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this forum... German, English, Irish, and Scottish are ALL more common than Italian... Italians just tend to be common in parts of the northeast! Italians are actually rare in the upstate of SC where I live... and people call me "The Italian" even though I'm only part... so learn your stuff dude ;).

kevinmac
06-03-2015, 01:06 AM
He looks hardcore Faelid.

Linebacker
06-03-2015, 01:08 AM
He is exactly 0% Albanian.

Drawing-slim
06-03-2015, 01:14 AM
He is indeed very Albanian more so than Irish. A half Italian and half Irish will never look like this. Plus Cena Canaj Cana this surname originates only amongst ancient Albanians and no place else in this globe.

Prism
08-12-2015, 08:50 PM
http://youtu.be/dBD7uVPUiPQ

It's Bulgarian, not Serbian so I cannot verify if he mentioned kosovo or not. But it sounds like it.

Ali Pasha
08-12-2015, 08:57 PM
John Cena is Albanian like Arnold schwarzenigger is Austrian.

Oneeye
08-12-2015, 10:29 PM
Half-Albanian? That's bullshit, if he was half-Albanian he'd come out and say it like every other Shitpar but he hasn't he is half-Irish, half-Italian like every other American out there.

Meh, Italian in white Americans is blown out of proportion. Certainly nowhere near as prevalent as Irish, German, or English.

Oneeye
08-12-2015, 10:33 PM
http://youtu.be/dBD7uVPUiPQ

It's Bulgarian, not Serbian so I cannot verify if he mentioned kosovo or not. But it sounds like it.

WWE should center around Balkan affairs. It would be educational for Americans. XD

Mn The Loki TA Son
08-12-2015, 10:33 PM
From what I know he has Italian ancestry. But overall, he doesn't claim or identify as it or says he is or has these ancestries. Just American.

de Burgh II
08-12-2015, 10:42 PM
WWE should center around Balkan affairs. It would be educational for Americans. XD

Lol!

Oneeye
08-12-2015, 10:44 PM
He reminds me of archon

Mn The Loki TA Son
08-12-2015, 10:49 PM
https://static.flashback.org/img/smilies2/whoco5.gif

Cena is an Albanian surname, and given that he is half "italian", its obvious that he is Arbereshe.

Interesting, I thought Cena was a Italian surname.

poiuytrewq0987
08-13-2015, 03:55 AM
Interesting, I thought Cena was a Italian surname.

It is. :coffee:

the Late Latin word cena (dinner, supper, principal Roman meal)derived from the Proto-Indo-European root *sker- (http://www.myetymology.com/proto-indo-european/sker-.html)

Derivations in Latincenaculum (http://www.myetymology.com/latin/cenaculum.html), caena (http://www.myetymology.com/latin/caena.html), cenalis (http://www.myetymology.com/latin/cenalis.html)Derivations in other languagesFrench cčne (http://www.myetymology.com/french/c%C3%A8ne.html), Italian cena (http://www.myetymology.com/italian/cena.html), Portuguese ceia (http://www.myetymology.com/portuguese/ceia.html), Romanian cină (http://www.myetymology.com/romanian/cin%C4%83.html), Spanish cena (http://www.myetymology.com/spanish/cena.html)UsageWord found in Late Latin

http://www.myetymology.com/latin/cena.html

MINARDOWICZ
08-13-2015, 05:20 AM
Meh, Italian in white Americans is blown out of proportion. Certainly nowhere near as prevalent as Irish, German, or English.

Like I said :p.

Linebacker
08-13-2015, 09:13 AM
It's Bulgarian, not Serbian so I cannot verify if he mentioned kosovo or not. But it sounds like it.

He said that the Rock COST him a championship shot,he said nothing about Kosovo.

John Cena is 100% Italian American and he has nothing to do with Talibania/ISISovo,he himself has never identified as such and it would be a miracle if he even knows where the country is on the map or if it even exists.

Hungarian_master
08-13-2015, 09:25 AM
Faelid+Borreby.

Desaix DeBurgh
08-13-2015, 09:34 AM
meathead

Desaix DeBurgh
08-13-2015, 09:36 AM
Meh, Italian in white Americans is blown out of proportion. Certainly nowhere near as prevalent as Irish, German, or English.

How many of these 'irish' or 'English' Americans are really of aristocratic French Norman blood rather than peasant Gaelic and Anglo-Saxon blood but have been brainwashed by the inferior crass peasant Anglo-Saxon culture ,of America, into thinking they are simply peasants like the rest of the Irish and English ?

Ctwentysevenj
08-13-2015, 09:42 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cena

poiuytrewq0987
08-13-2015, 10:38 AM
Like I said :p.

What does that have to do with John Cena's Italian background whether the number of Italian Americans is "blown out of proportion" or not?? :picard2:

Prism
08-13-2015, 10:38 AM
He said that the Rock COST him a championship shot,he said nothing about Kosovo.

John Cena is 100% Italian American and he has nothing to do with Talibania/ISISovo,he himself has never identified as such and it would be a miracle if he even knows where the country is on the map or if it even exists.

Fuck off, like Bulgaria is the best place on earth. It's on the same level as Albania or Kosovo.
Taliabania/ isiskosovo what are you talkinh about ?! Just because 3 or 4 nutjobs went to fight for ISIS and they were Kosovo it automatically becomes a terrorist state ? And what about Albania not one person from Albania has gone to fight for ISIS. Don't talk shit.

Read the wiki article that was posted.

Linebacker
08-13-2015, 10:48 AM
Fuck off, like Bulgaria is the best place on earth. It's on the same level as Albania or Kosovo.
Taliabania/ isiskosovo what are you talkinh about ?! Just because 3 or 4 nutjobs went to fight for ISIS and they were Kosovo it automatically becomes a terrorist state ? And what about Albania not one person from Albania has gone to fight for ISIS. Don't talk shit.

Read the wiki article that was posted.

Don't go there,our economy and life standards are nearly 3 times above,and most importantly,people know we actually exist,we don't need to scream to everyone "look at us we are here"

Also,the wiki article is exactly as accurate as Paul Walker's IMDB,which was edited to say he's from Albanian descent.I can edit Cena's article right now and make it say he's my cousin.

Stop with this claiming of things that don't belong to you Albanians,its becoming ridiculous

Prism
08-13-2015, 10:58 AM
Don't go there,our economy and life standards are nearly 3 times above,and most importantly,people know we actually exist,we don't need to scream to everyone "look at us we are here"

Also,the wiki article is exactly as accurate as Paul Walker's IMDB,which was edited to say he's from Albanian descent.I can edit Cena's article right now and make it say he's my cousin.

Stop with this claiming of things that don't belong to you Albanians,its becoming ridiculous

Yeah people know Bulgarians the same way they know Romanians, gypsies and/or immagrants begging on the streets.

I don't care if he is Albanian or not. I found that video and I thought this guy Rusev was a Macedonian and hence that's why he mentioned Kosovo. If various sources are stating he has Albanian, he must have. Simple as.
Wikipedia articles are revised various times when something new is published, I can't just go on the wiki ww2 article and state, no jews were killed during ww2, no they wouldn't allow that don't talk crap, again.

solaris
08-13-2015, 10:59 AM
John's full name: John Felix Anthony Cena... yeah, that's so Albanian. :laugh:

his actual name is fikret burim shpetim bektashi but becoming more and more famous he switched it to j. f. cena. easier to pronounce.

Oneeye
08-13-2015, 04:29 PM
What does that have to do with John Cena's Italian background whether the number of Italian Americans is "blown out of proportion" or not?? :picard2:

Nothing, it has to do with the comment that Cena is "half Irish and half Italian like every other white American"... Get a grip.

Oneeye
08-13-2015, 04:45 PM
How many of these 'irish' or 'English' Americans are really of aristocratic French Norman blood rather than peasant Gaelic and Anglo-Saxon blood but have been brainwashed by the inferior crass peasant Anglo-Saxon culture ,of America, into thinking they are simply peasants like the rest of the Irish and English ?

Irish is probably overstated and English under. Do you mean Anglo Norman? My surnames are much more Anglo Saxon and came from both southeastern and southwestern England as well as the Midlands. Add on top of that, much of my German anceatry is from the lower Saxon area.

Should the WASPs be known as WANPs? I could see old money Anglo Americans being of considerable Norman ancestry.

The.Mask
08-13-2015, 04:56 PM
Stop with this claiming of things that don't belong to you Albanians,its becoming ridiculous

Who give a fuck, stop your obsession with the Albanians and look at your bitches being fucked in Slantchev Briag

Linebacker
08-13-2015, 05:01 PM
Who give a fuck, stop your obsession with the Albanians and look at your bitches being fucked in Slantchev Briag

Im going to be there too later this month to get some myself,thanks for the heads up anyway.

Kastrioti1443
08-13-2015, 05:48 PM
Don't go there,our economy and life standards are nearly 3 times above,and most importantly,people know we actually exist,we don't need to scream to everyone "look at us we are here"

Also,the wiki article is exactly as accurate as Paul Walker's IMDB,which was edited to say he's from Albanian descent.I can edit Cena's article right now and make it say he's my cousin.

Stop with this claiming of things that don't belong to you Albanians,its becoming ridiculous

My bollgar gypsy friend, the only things bolgaria is known for, as little as it is known, is for prostitutes, gypsies, large turkish presence, and being a sex tourism center in Balkans. As for that ' 3 times higher living standart' , that might be true in yout american idol dream. Balkan countries, each of them have similar living standarts with minor differences, Croatia is more developd because of obvious historical reasons. As for being known around the world, like France or USA, there is nothing good about it. Subhumans will come, either for jobs and increasing their numbers or sex hunters. In your country' s case it is the 2nd option. No one gives a shit what Cena is btw.

Hydromorphone
08-14-2015, 08:15 PM
Not saying anything rude about Italians or Albanians or anyone, but the Wikipedia quote about him is a blatant lie. You have to understand how Wikipedia works.

He has added 3 articles in Albanian. Since the article is silver locked, they need to be reviewed by the few Admins who can properly translate and gauge the accuracy of them before removing them, so that's why they are still up despite some things I'll mention next.

The Albanian part seems to come from a recent edit, as I know John Cena and wondered where it came from, as every other source has never stated he is Albanian, because there is no definitive proof. Wikipedia runs on proper citation codes as would any peer-reviewed journal, and hearsay or theoretical claims based on things like 'last name is POSSIBLY Albanian origin' despite the name being also common in two, three other countries and despite the fact he has only stated Italian/whatever else, he should not be quoted as Albanian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Cena&diff=674550288&oldid=674505093

The edits are recent and come from the above source. Of which, the man is an Albanian nationalist who has since been banned from Wikipedia for editing other articles incorrectly and fighting about a few things in Albanian to others.

Sqiperia12345 is one account that's been banned, amongst over 20 other sockpuppet accounts he has used to repeatedly edit John Cena's article amongst others and putting the Albanian claims in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Biar122

Normally his changed would be immediately reversed but there is ongoing debate and constant new accounts arguing in it and 'voting' that he 'really is Albanian'.

The three sources in question are not proof, census data, nor quotes by Cena himself on his ethnicity or ancestry. Therefore, they should not be up for too much longer. The three sources are simply blog posts by Albanians in Albanian blogs theorizing about his potential Albanian ancestry just like people are in this thread. Quoting those blogs are basically like quoting this thread for his supposed Albanian ancestry, and is academically dishonest thing to do.

He could very well be 50% Albanian. He could be theoretically 100% Albanian right now, but it doesn't matter if he said he is of Italian ancestry. When Wikipedia generally adds personal information on someone, they always use two main sources, 1) what the person has said themselves and 2) census data/others like that. It's absolutely an anomaly to use blogs like that and is likely to be reversed as soon as they get a handle on sockpuppet accounts coming in and constantly editing the article and voting for the new edits to stay. Before you get angry, I'm not trying to hate on anyone or say anything like that, but this is the way Wikipedia works. It has issues like these for a lot of people and articles that are hot-button issues. Articles that tend to be more academic than this but face similar issues are often silver or even golden locked, the latter meaning only wiki admins can approve edits that way they avoid problems like this or vandalism/inaccurate sourcing.

Era
08-14-2015, 08:19 PM
^ Such a long post for something so trivial. He could be very little Albanian but the fact is that he was provoked in this video that Kosovo is Serbia. Now why would they do that to a guy who isnt Albanian at all? Doesnt make sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBD7uVPUiPQ

Hydromorphone
08-14-2015, 08:40 PM
^ Such a long post for something so trivial. He could be very little Albanian but the fact is that he was provoked in this video that Kosovo is Serbia. Now why would they do that to a guy who isnt Albanian at all? Doesnt make sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBD7uVPUiPQ

Nobody is forcing you to read my posts. I was just providing some insight since people were arguing, when in debates like this its my opinion that its disingenuous to not use proper citations. I believe Fustan provided some more insight on that video, regardless, a youtube video and some blogs are not evidence of ancestry the same way me writing in Japanese that Obama is part Japanese makes him Japanese just because Obama has excellent relations with them.

Era
08-14-2015, 08:42 PM
He doesn't say anything about Kosovo^ in that vid, some bulgarians translated it a while ago and I cba to find it (it's in their thread or something)

btw could give less of two shits if this guy is arbereshe or not

I saw the title and heard the russian say Kosovo. Since I dont speak the language I thought it must be so. And yes, it doesnt matter, he could be very little or nothing at all since usually part Albanians like to mention that regardless how little.

poiuytrewq0987
08-15-2015, 07:37 AM
The Albanians have to be total losers if they think some WWE wrestler is a hero to the nation. Newsflash, everything on WWE is fake and scripted, so whatever achievements John Cena has on WWE, are laughable. :lol:

Drawing-slim
09-10-2015, 05:38 AM
The Albanians have to be total losers if they think some WWE wrestler is a hero to the nation. Newsflash, everything on WWE is fake and scripted, so whatever achievements John Cena has on WWE, are laughable. :lol:Shut up. WWE is real.

Shqipez
09-10-2015, 06:06 AM
John's full name: John Felix Anthony Cena... yeah, that's so Albanian. :laugh:


The Albanians have to be total losers if they think some WWE wrestler is a hero to the nation. Newsflash, everything on WWE is fake and scripted, so whatever achievements John Cena has on WWE, are laughable. :lol:

Youre more losers when you get so butthurt. take a look at your earlier posts. it is a Common Albanian surname. you should also understand Arbereshe have pre-ottoman surnames and names that were similar to Italian or many italianized. He might not be Arbereshe origin. I think Al PaCino has some Arbereshe origin.

Imamudin
09-10-2015, 06:13 AM
Dalofaelid/Nordid.

The Blade
08-04-2019, 08:33 PM
Cena is Faelid.

chociprasa
08-04-2019, 09:33 PM
Brünn + Atlanto-Med.

Super Mario
08-15-2021, 10:43 AM
Nope, he’s Turkish and he’s a Turanid as hell.

Voskos
08-15-2021, 10:45 AM
Typical Kosovo Hulk. Baltid+Borreby.