Tatars

[Visitor_22]

But what are you giving here? Nothing more than bullshit. It's documented that ancient gokturks were mongoloid like modern day altaians, khakas etc.

[Mehmet]

[CENTER]ROSALIND M. HARDING AND ROBERT R. SOKAL


The results for Kayseri were similar to results for Istanbul. These results suggest that Turkmens of Turkmenistan are fundamentally West Asian genetically and similar to Turks of Turkey. Furthermore the Siberian genetic content in Turkmens and Turks of Turkey are comparable suggesting a significant Turkmen influx into Anatolia if indeed the source population of Turks of Turkey were Turkmens of Seljuqs. Interestingly enough Siberian genes in the Aydin region of Turkey is even higher than in Turkmenistan.

It's perfect.
We couldn't have justified otherwise why Turkey imposes a non-IE non-Semite language to its nation of 76 million souls, living in the midst of a IE-Semitic ocean.
Actually the reports of the Byzantine chroniclers from the 11th century were accurate when they described the Seljuq immigrations to Anatolia, telling Turk migrants were more numerous than stars in the sky and that they heavily outnumbered the local folks (Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Georgians...).

The first huge immigration happened in the 11th century, after the Seljuq armies defeated the huge Byzantine army in an all-out land battle at Mantzikert, 1071.

The second and last huge immigration from Turkestan to Turkey took place at Mongol invasion times, 13th century. Turks fled invading Ghengis hordes.
Father and grandfather of Osman 1, future founder of the Ottoman empire, came during this second immigration wave.

[Proto-Shaman]

But what are you giving here? Nothing more than bullshit. It's documented that ancient gokturks were mongoloid like modern day altaians, khakas etc.

Look, we don't say Gokturks weren't predominantly mongoloid. But this does not give you the right to proclaim a so called "pure mongoloid orign" of all Turkic beings. We are neither nor, we are an Eurasiatic people comprising caucasoid and mongoloid elements, and we are proud of that.

[Hoca]

If he doesn't give sources to back up his crazy claims. Then just ignore him. Nobody will take him serious if he just shouts empty statements and doesn't provide academic back-up. He isn't Kazakh anyway. I knew a Kazakh from school. He was real turanist like all Central-Asians I have met.

[superhorn]

Dagestan mens lnd of mountains in Turkish, not Persian .

[Kalimtari]

have some Tatar friends, great people

[Kiyant]

I know some Tatars they are generally friendly and i think they are the most liked non slavic ethnic group in Russia arent they?

[Visitor_22]

I know some Tatars they are generally friendly and i think they are the most liked non slavic ethnic group in Russia arent they?

Probably. Most loyal people to russians. They have no problem with eachother.

[Kiyant]

Probably. Most loyal people to russians. They have no problem with eachother.

I wouldnt say loyal but they have no problem with Russians and Russia aslong as they dont get discriminated

[Visitor_22]

I wouldnt say loyal but they have no problem with Russians and Russia aslong as they dont get discriminated

Tatars and russians have excellent relations like very few other ethnicities have. Intermarriage is verry common as I know.