Europeans: How neccesary is a "Tito-Stalin - split" between the United States and Europe ?

[The Lawspeaker]

I have been looking at how the United States has influenced Europe for the past 50 years. Europe was influenced of those decades by the United States and perhaps we can wonder now whether we haven't ourselves let carried away by it all.

American mass-media and American mass-culture. Hell.. we are even forced to continuously check our own situation by looking at American conspiracy films but we have to admitt. We are no Americans and we should damn well be proud of that. We have a culture that stretches back some 3500 years so why do we need the blessings of judeo-American capitalism, McDonalds, M and F16's Hollywood, the JSF, American films, music, books, computer technology etc etc etc while we can damn well get our act together, deal with the immigrants the way we see fit, ally ourselves with whoever we want, produce our own military equipment (and we have quite a history with producing better equipment then the Americans ever did), find a more equitable economic system that works for us, honour our own culinary traditions and get our own film industry, publishing industry back on it's feet and get our technonological industry (Germany is a technological powerhouse and Bulgaria used to be great in building computers and the programs needed to run them) ? We don't need America, period.

It's time for us in Europe to wake the hell up and smell the coffee and realize that we are turning into a nice judeo-American colony and are becoming just as effed up as Latin America. And another nice one for you: who brought the immigrants here in the first place ? Big business did so they could have cheap labour.

That's the little secret no one wants you to hear about. It's just as easy to blame it, how American, on Marxists or the like.
While the same ruddy Marxists have always been on the big bosses money line so the common people could remain divided and looking at the wrong direction. And is the far-right an answer ? Just look at the Dutch PVV and you know that they aren't. So we have to do it ourselves.

And what do you think the present European Union came from ? From a bunch of non-Europeans, corrupt businessmen and bankers.

[Sol Invictus]

I think what we perceive today to be "American" culture is in actuality a complete opposite, a counter-American culture. What we observe today in the United States is a global culture being exported abroad by people who know where their self interests lie, dressing it up in the glorious Stars and Stripes. America's culture is dead on arrival, sacrificed on the altar of Globalism. Whether it can be salvaged and reversed I have my doubts, but we'll see.

I'm not European but I don't think you'll mind Trist.

[The Lawspeaker]

Still. We should get rid of it. It came from the United States and we need our own stuff instead.

[Joe McCarthy]

I posted this on the wrong thread earlier, so I'll post it here.

I know you're directing this at Europeans, but I think the problem is an assumption that Europeans are homogeneous enough to be classed as a bloc against Americans. Many Europeans have more in common with Americans than they do with other Europeans. For example, though you probably don't want to hear this, you and I no doubt have more in common than either of us has with, say, a Serbian. I'm part Dutch ancestrally and come from a Calvinist background.

I don't see a reason for us to have an adversarial relationship. I'm not in the habit of quoting Hitler, but he did say once that America is a colony and appendage of Europe. In that case he was correct.

[The Lawspeaker]

I directed this at Europeans. A lot has changed since Hitler said it. The appendage became a cancer whose social economic system, whose military, whose politics, whose "culture" is smothering us all.

I have no problem with the average American but we should see the big picture for what it is. America is not our friend. It's a colonial power. And I think that American influence is actually our main problem. It's the money and influence that is used to corrupt our politicians and business people. It's their culture which is corrupting our young people from the cradle onward.

So if we want to go back to ourselves. Look at tradition and our own systems then we will need to loose Americans and be left to our devises. We have 3500 years of tradition and culture backing us. We have the means too.

[cannibal52]

Well, any nation that actually comes in to a nation and spreads globalization is counter-productive to a national culture and such. For example, the colonialism of Great Britain. America needs to adopt some sort of isolationist, non-interventionist policy, and it should return to the Anglo-saxon culture that it was founded on. Yes, there are many racial groups in America, and I believe a pan-nationalist policy would be rather beneficial for all the races in America. (not counting Jews or the Mexicans, I personally want them out)

Europe should deny America's globalist "culture." And America is not the only one at fault, it is the politicians and the EU. (but, the main factor contributing to this is the spread of democracy by Americans... which should definitely stop at all costs.)

In short, I want an Anglo-saxon cultured America and a European Europe. I think we can all agree to some extent on this.