DNA of Ancient and Medieval Central Asians

[Hudayar]

Starting with

Scythians (Pazyryk, Aldy_Bel, Zevakino_Chilikta, Scythian_Hungary) Saka (Iranian Central Asian), Sarmatian, Alan, Hun (Tian-Shan), Xiong-nu (Mongolians) ve Wusun (Indo-European) and Nomadic Hun Period.

Note: if you don't like bar charts here have this spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...cWE/edit#gid=0

Eurogenes K13

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Dodecad K12b

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Puntdnal K12

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Kangju, Kipchak, Göktürk, Karluk, Karakhanid, Golden Horde (most likely Mongolian) and Nomad_Medieval (most likely Turkic)

note: Göktürks are coded as "Turk" in the bar charts.

Eurogenes K13

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Dodecad K12b

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Puntdnal K12

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Source: https://turkishdna.blogspot.com/2018...avrasyann.html

[Hudayar]

Here are their haplogroups. "Yaş" means "Age"

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source: https://turkishdna.blogspot.com/2018...avrasyann.html

[Hudayar]

Göktürk samples are from Northern Kazakhstan. Surprisingly, Göktürk samples are mostly Caucasoid (only 32% to 48% Asian).

There's also a great difference between Huns/Xiongnus. Some samples are over 90% mongoloid, some are below even 20%. Which proves that there were Caucasoid people (most likely Iranians) in Xiongnu Khaganate.

Karluk samples are very close to Uzbeks. Well, Uzbeks are Karluk after all. Karakhanid samples are also close to Uzbeks.

[Hudayar]

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[LoLeL]

Summary and conclusion? Also where is the original article which published this data (the English source)?

[Hudayar]

Summary and conclusion? Also where is the original article which published this data (the English source)?

No one published an article. The samples were extracted from several studies

here are them

http://science.sciencemag.org/conten...amgaard_SM.pdf

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/292581-1.pdf

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0094-2

[Pahli]

Looks like early Turks are something like 60 - 80% Scytho-Sarmatian, the rest is Siberian / East Asian. The Mongols must have doubled the Eurasian admixture among Turkic people in Kirgisistan and Kazakhstan then.

[Hudayar]

Looks like early Turks are something like 60 - 80% Scytho-Sarmatian, the rest is Siberian / East Asian. The Mongols must have doubled the Eurasian admixture among Turkic people in Kirgisistan and Kazakhstan then.

Some Scythian samples (Pazyrk) are even more East Eurasian than medieval Turkics. Pazyrk samples are around 60% East Eurasian. But yes, the Turkics were not as mongoloid as people thought. The Gokturk samples are not even above 50% East Eurasian and there's a great difference between Kipchak and Hun samples. Kipchaks are around 20% to 60% mongoloid and Huns/Xiongnus are around 18% to 92% (lol). Only Karluk and Karakhanid samples are balanced. They're around 47-54% mognoloid. They're almost the same as Uzbeks and Uyghurs. And they're the ancestors of these people

[Bosniensis]

Interesting Baltic users don't have East Med and West Med, they have combined 0 East + West Med

While I am 28,79 Baltic and 31,8 Med

Those however with Strong Med have really low Baltic.

It really confirms (even through ancient samples) that we are Native Balkan + Baltic

I wonder whats West Asia reference.

[Pahli]

Some Scythian samples (Pazyrk) are even more East Eurasian than medieval Turkics. Pazyrk samples are around 60% East Eurasian. But yes, the Turkics were not as mongoloid as people thought. The Gokturk samples are not even above 50% East Eurasian and there's a great difference between Kipchak and Hun samples. Kipchaks are around 20% to 60% mongoloid and Huns/Xiongnus are around 18% to 92%. Only Karluk and Karakhanid samples are balanced. They're around 47-54% mognoloid. They're almost the same as Uzbeks and Uyghurs. And they're the ancestors of these people

Seems to me that some of those early Turkic people were very similar to the Saka people of NW China. When I said Scytho-Sarmatian, I am implying the Western ones from Volga to Ukraine. The Eastern Scythians are without doubt heavily admixed with the local Siberian like people. Both Iranians and Turkic people here show a great diversity, but the Mongols did without doubt influence both ethnic groups.

Interesting Baltic users don't have East Med and West Med, they have combined 0 East + West Med

While I am 28,79 Baltic and 31,8 Med

Those however with Strong Med have really low Baltic.

It really confirms (even through ancient samples) that we are Native Balkan + Baltic

I wonder whats West Asia reference.

Because you are Slavic