DNA of Ancient and Medieval Central Asians

[Hudayar]

I couldn't find some of the kits he used, and this makes me very nervous.

Okunevo_RISE674 T948730
BOT14_Botai T619388
BOT15_Botai T742380
Afanasievo_RISE511 M828784
Afanasievo_RISE509 F999942
Yamnaya_I0231 M655536
Yamnaya_I0443 M343758
Yamnaya_Rise548 F999968
Andronovo_Rise505 M608028/F999953
Andronovo_Rise500 F999947
Andronovo_Rise503 F999961
Karasuk_Rise493 F999950
Karasuk_Rise495 F999958
Sintashta_Rise386 M690970
Sintashta_Rise395 M277797/F999949
Srubnaya_I0354 M235073
Srubnaya_I0232 M472767
Srubnaya_I0430 M217196
Srubnaya_I0423 M328175
West_Siberia_I5766 Z816953
Shamanka_EN_DA249 T960967
Shamanka_EBA_DA337 T854665
Ust_Ida_LN_DA342 T161521
Kurma_EBA_DA358 T739688
Hajji_Firuz_BA_I4243 Z063604
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_S8726.E1.L1 Z599794
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3_S8728.E1.L1 Z690575
Saidu Sharif_S7722.E1.L1 Z146444
Swat_S2270 Z639605
Kashkarchi_BA_I4153 Z669441
Kashkarchi_BA_I4255 Z596095
Turkmenistan_IA_DA382 Z936555
Namazga_DA381 T075567
Gonur_outlier_I1783 Z620055
Dzharkutan2_BA_I4901 Z126798
Kok_Mardan_DA123 T434853
Tagar_DA2 Z511676
Tagar_DA4 Z382195
Tagar_DA8 Z330228
Central_Saka_DA13 Z150104
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA47 Z232502
Out_Tian_Shan_Saka_DA56 Z042473
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA57 Z789153
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA58 Z871644
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA59 Z959198
Alan_DA162 Z285172
Alan_DA243 Z548193
Nomad_IA_DA129 Z189658
Nomad_IA_DA221 Z697149
Aldy_Bel_IA_A10 Z107375
Early_Sarmatian_IA_PR3 Z831915
Sarmatian_DA30 Z032016
Pazyryk_IA_Be9 Z851044
Zevakino_Chilikta_IA_IS2
Hungarian_Scythian_DA198 Z569316/Z923991
Xiong-Nu_WE_DA38 Z777394
Xiong-Nu_DA39 Z780597
Xiong-Nu_WE_DA41 Z877352
Xiong-Nu_DA43 Z368948
Xiong-Nu_DA45 Z802252/Z031856
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA65 Z019511
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA74 Z384293
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA81 Z855800
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA85 Z710382
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA100 Z906895
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA385 Z610860
Nomad_Hun-Sarmatian_DA27 Z419959
Nomad_Hun_Period_DA95 Z423957
Nomad_Hun_Period_DA177 Z035582
Wusun_DA223 Z698544
Kangju_DA206 Z547295
Kipchak_DA23 Z577705
Kipchak_DA179 Z682973
Turk_DA89 M853162
Turk_DA228 Z845678
Karluk_DA222 Z342597
Karluk_DA230 Z710694
Karakhanid_DA204 Z637314
Nomad_Medieval_DA93 Z436842
Nomad_Medieval_DA126 Z580575
Nomad_Medieval_DA142 Z759882
Golden_Horde_Asian_DA28 Z027433

Thanks dude

[Decius]

Pre-Slavic Balkan was more Southern shifted, Slavs changed that and you can also see if you compare even the most Southern Slavs with populations like Greeks for example.

You're obviously not going to be fully East Slavic, but something like 25% Belorussian and rest native Balkan would make sense.

It’s more than 25% slavic. The average south slav is probably 40-55% slavic or something like that. It really depends on region though for example Slovenians are far more slavic then Macedonians

[İrle]

Antatolian Turks at it again. "Karluk" Turks, "Kipchak" Turks, "Oghuz" Turks. Maybe Turkic people living in Siberia (nominal Siberian Turkic languages) called themselves Siberian Turks?

These language denominations are a 20th century development, where linguists simply took medieval tribal names applied them to modern languages to simplify a very complex pattern. These are just linguistic allocations nothing to do with settlement patterns and ethnogenesis. There is no memory of Qarluqs neither in Uzbek nor Uyghur folk memory. Can anyone show me where Turkic authors such as Kashgari or Balasaguni called themselves "Karluks"?

Nothing is astonishing about the fact that Köktürks score high Caucasoid, they were not fully Turkic afterall. Contrary to common layman's opinion propagated here (Köktürk origin - Altai), they were migrants from northern Xinjiang and Gansu to Altai. The areas they came from had heavy Indo-European urban presence, hence their urban smiths skills. These same areas were later dominated by Basmyls which literally means "mixed". Oghuz/Toquz Oghuz/old Uighur steles clearly state that Türks are imposters, who sporadically emerge to claim Kaghanal status which does not belong to them.

The Göktürk results there are not the results of Ashina clan. They were laballed as Turk/Gokturk because of the date of the samples, implying they are from the Göktürk period. What are you blabbering about exactly?

[Kaspias]

My DNA could be Kipchak example lol. Very similar.

[Yaglakar]

The Göktürk results there are not the results of Ashina clan. They were laballed as Turk/Gokturk because of the date of the samples, implying they are from the Göktürk period. What are you blabbering about exactly?

Do you require a more thorough enlightenment?

[oszkar07]

I was wrong it's actually 16-17 region:

1 Serbian 3.11
2 Romanian 5.37
3 Moldavian 6.46
4 Bulgarian 7.42
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Hungarian 9.14
7 Austrian 12.48
8 East_German 13.8
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.32
10 Greek_Thessaly 15.82
11 South_Polish 15.89
12 Ukrainian 16.48

I hate being mixed... I wish I was either 100% Slavic or 100% Greek/Alb

Is this oracle from K13 ?

[Bosniensis]

Is this oracle from K13 ?

I can’t remember


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