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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    This is more with effort rejecting an Albanian contribution to Greeks than dealing with it.
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    The Albanians appear in the sources in the 11th century 52
    , but this does not mean that
    they were newcomers in the Balkans, since they may be heirs of the ancient Illyrians 53
    . In
    any case, although their original territory is still not precisely known, we can be certain
    that there existed no large Albanian population in Epirus: their heartland in the 11th
    and 12th centuries was the small territory of Arbanon54
    , between the Rivers Devolli
    and Shkumbi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
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    From this small area they spread all around.
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    After the death of Kral Dušan in 1355, Nicephore II, son of the last Despot of Epirus,
    took power in Thessaly and Epirus, and fought against the Albanians, trying to expel
    them from Epirus72
    . But he was defeated and killed by them in 1359 at the battle of
    Achelôos73
    . Symeon, heir of Kral Dušan, seized back Thessaly and Epirus. But govern-
    ing Thessaly was a hard enough task for him, and, as the Chronicle of Ioannina says, he
    left Epirus to the Albanians. In the early 1360s, Epirus indeed was divided between
    Albanian clans: the clan of Peter Liosha held Arta, the clan of Muriki Boua Spata74 held
    Etoloacarnania, with Angelokastron as capital, and their leaders held the Byzantine ti-
    tles of Despots from Symeon 75
    . Only the city of Ioannina was still governed by Greeks 76
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    In the north and west of this city, the clans of the Malakasaioi and of the Mazarakaioi
    held a territory which cannot be precisely defined 77
    . Then, the clan of the Zenebisaioi
    held the north-west of Ioannina, including Dryinopolis, Bela and Vagenetia78
    . Ioannina
    was the only city that did not fall under Albanian domination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepa View Post
    Average delusional serb I said ur maternal side not just ur mom lmao still doesn’t make me Hulu.
    You are most likely banned member Hulu, but who cares.
    We have strong Balkan Roman and Byzantine genetic heritage, and of course there are Serbs who have nice southern look.
    All my parents, grandparents, cousins look average within Serbian range, nothing unusual.
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    As a matter of fact, many Albanians remained in Epirus, since the Anonymous Panegyric
    of Emperors Manuel and John VIII Paleologos states that around 1428, the Albanians
    were still occupying the inland parts of Epirus, while the Greeks controlled only the
    coast and the two cities of Arta and Ioannina 91
    . The assertions of the Panegyric, written
    far from Epirus, must be taken cautiously, but they surely indicate the reality of landed
    settlement there. 14th-century Albanian immigration was far more important than the
    Serbian or Italian ones. Indeed, we know that the Boua clan present in the Peloponnese
    in 1423 numbered about one or two thousand people. Unfortunately, it is impossible
    to know how many clansmen left Epirus for the Peloponnese and how many remained.
    It is also impossible to know how large the other clans were; but we may be sure that
    several thousand Albanians were installed in Epirus before the Turkish period92
    . Their
    presence was massive, as our sources say, and their assimilation was problematic, as is
    shown both by the survival down the centuries of the Albanian language and by the
    descriptions and accounts given by our sources.
    The latter, indeed, largely describe the cultural gap between the two populations. Alba-
    nian social organization was still archaic, based on the katund, an aggregate of 50-100
    families. The clan was then formed by several katund, four in the case of the Boua in
    1423 in the Peloponnesus 93
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    In early 14th century several Albanian tribes invaded Thessaly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malakasioi#History
    In sources is written that Albanians were like plague, they destroyed and robbed many settlements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    In early 14th century several Albanian tribes invaded Thessaly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malakasioi#History
    In sources is written that Albanians were like plague, they destroyed and robbed many settlements.
    And after they were kicked out !
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    You are most likely banned member Hulu, but who cares.
    We have strong Balkan Roman and Byzantine genetic heritage, and of course there are Serbs who have nice southern look.
    All my parents, grandparents, cousins look average within Serbian range, nothing unusual.
    The voices are telling u i am Hulu, don’t talk about ur Albanian side because u are what ur father is which isn’t Dinarid like most i2a Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepa View Post
    The voices are telling u i am Hulu, don’t talk about ur Albanian side because u are what ur father is which isn’t Dinarid like most i2a Serbs.
    My father is Dinarid, as same as I am, so I can talk about mine Dinarid phenotype.
    Both my sides are pure Serbian, deal with it Hulu.

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