Romania's Basescu backs "United States of Europe"

[poiuytrewq0987]

Romanian President Traian Basescu pleaded last week in favour of a stronger Europe, capable of facing growing competition. "The globalisation process is showing us how small we are compared to the capital, the markets," Basescu said to young Romanians living in the diaspora.

"It is proven governments can be defeated by markets. The global system will sweep anything which lacks force because the capital is no longer in the possession of states. This is why I said it is necessary, in two or three years, to create the United States of Europe," he added.

"We have to settle the expenses by 2020 according to some lines that we have to observe. If not, the country gets penalised. And that implies ceding sovereignty, whether we like it or not. The VAT will be set somewhere in Brussels … but we will have to swallow this pill for Europe to become viable in front of globalisation," he said. The main challenge is the way politicians will sell this bold project, he underlined.

"Politicians will have to convince peoples that the United States of Europe will not affect their personality, identity and culture. They will have to take this decision in two or three years. Beyond that point, if Europe doesn't proceed to fiscal unification in the meantime, it may be too late because the implementation takes time," Basescu concluded.

Earlier this month, in the context of financial turbulence in the eurozone, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy proposed a European common economic government to streamline efforts to surmount such crises in the future.

http://setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xh.../30/feature-04

[The Lawspeaker]

All for it. But where to start ? It shouldn't be carried out in stealth in some Brussels meeting chamber but a Constitution and Bill of Rights, modelled on the American one, should be proposed --- and very important: States' rights, Habeas corpus and Posse Comitatus. The current European Parliament and the European Commission should be swept aside and we're starting anew.

We should get a full separation of powers.
Legislative (European Parliament - two houses.):
Executive (this should be different from the American model as the executive power should be invested in the cabinet and the President should be a ceremonial figure - mirroring the German or Swiss systems).
Judicial: European Supreme Court.

I think that the Constitution should mandate individual member-states to enforce a separation of powers in their own countries as it is the best way to protect liberty but for a large part there will be States' rights.

We could learn a thing of two from the American failures: it should be the parliaments of the member-states that will elect members of the Upper House, the Senate in the way in which it was done in the United States (when the governments of the States elected the Senators) before 1913 and is still done in the Netherlands today. Europe should continue to follow the model of coalition governments - thus making sure that policies are balanced -- not necessarily populist.

Other then in America should there a ban on campaign funding -- candidates should get a set amount from a independent commission. The current European Central Bank should be "nationalised" and placed under the authority of the Department of the Treasury and thus under Parliamentary control. It will be psychically removed from Frankfort and transferred to the capital in order to keep them away from financial interest groups.

We should use the Second Bill of Rights and a Third Bill of Rights.

There should be a single capital: so no more trips between Straßburg and Brussels. Luxembourg City might be a good capital and departments are either to be concentrated or.. where possible spread along the Rhine Valley.

Europe's name should change to reflect the political change and as a sign that we have overcome the corrupt EU: United States of Europe or European Community.

[Aces High]

All these corrupt and freeloading nations in Europe would like to see a USE,it means they can freewheel along on the backs of the Germanics.

[Peyrol]

A chaotic federation based only in a economical sense/way?

Mah....

[The Lawspeaker]

A chaotic federation based only in a economical sense/way?

Mah....

With a single system of government, auditors -- yes very chaotic. About as chaotic as Switzerland or the United States.

All these corrupt and freeloading nations in Europe would like to see a USE,it means they can freewheel along on the backs of the Germanics.

Actually. No. As those "corrupt and freeloading" nations are just as corrupt as Britain or the Netherlands. We just hide it better and with the current EU (or our own countries for that matter and that includes your own) having no serious system of audit or systems of governments that are closely aligned corruption cannot be kept in check. And you can't say that Arkansas is riding on the back of New England or California.

Besides: Britain's main problem is not the EU. It's the problem that the stupid idiots (like the rest of us but more severe) have outsourced their own industry (Brussels had nothing to do with that), selling it all off to China and then complaining that there are no jobs. If Britain wouldn't be in the Common Market you country would be worse off then bankrupt as it imports a lot of stuff from the European countries. Their problem there is that they still use the Pound Sterling and the rest uses the Euro.

If the British would still have had their industry it would have been an economic powerhouse like Germany and one of the top dogs. Now they just sit around moping and bitching out their neighbours while they should be bitching out themselves for their Thatcherian stupidity: British brands were right up there at the top and could be compared to the Germans: cars, rolling stock, foodstuffs, coal etc . A lot of love for Britain but your Eurosceptics is just empty populism. Brought forth by someone that destroyed your country while pointing the other way.


A nice example. British Leyland (1977 Rover SD1). Company wrecked and sold off in 1988. And that's just a "minor" detail of the car industry.

[Gordon Bennett]

Besides: Britain's main problem is not the EU. It's the problem that the stupid idiots (like the rest of us but more severe) have outsourced their own industry (Brussels had nothing to do with that), selling it all off to China and then complaining that there are no jobs. If Britain wouldn't be in the Common Market you country would be worse off then bankrupt as it imports a lot of stuff from the European countries. Their problem there is that they still use the Pound Sterling and the rest uses the Euro.

If the British would still have had their industry it would have been an economic powerhouse like Germany and one of the top dogs. Now they just sit around moping and bitching out their neighbours while they should be bitching out themselves for their Thatcherian stupidity: British brands were right up there at the top and could be compared to the Germans: cars, rolling stock, foodstuffs, coal etc . A lot of love for Britain but your Eurosceptics is just empty populism. Brought forth by someone that destroyed your country while pointing the other way.


A nice example. British Leyland (1977 Rover SD1). Company wrecked and sold off in 1988. And that's just a "minor" detail of the car industry.

Well, that's Aces High told!

[poiuytrewq0987]

Pretty sure Britain still have a car industry but it is largely reserved for the mostly rich now, no?