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    Target: Luso_scaled
    Distance: 2.0233% / 0.02023281
    79.0 Spanish_&_Portuguese
    14.8 Italian
    2.8 North_African
    1.8 Finnish
    0.8 African_Hunter-Gatherer
    0.6 Somali
    0.2 Siberian

    Distance to: Luso_scaled
    0.02534072 Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02715626 Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02868336 Spanish_&_Portugueseortuguese
    0.03726135 Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Aragon
    0.04169606 Italian:Italian_Liguria
    0.05093509 French_&_German:French_Occitanie
    0.05235599 French_&_German:Swiss_French
    0.05367852 Greek_&_Balkan:Italian_Northeast
    0.05709850 Italian:Italian_Tuscany
    0.05781569 French_&_German:Swiss_German
    0.06120957 French_&_German:French_Paris
    0.06348678 Italian:Italian_Marche
    0.06533616 Italian:Italian_Umbria
    0.06564915 Italian:Sicilian_West
    0.06676830 Greek_&_Balkan:Albanian
    0.06815307 Italian:Italian_Lazio
    0.06874100 Greek_&_Balkan:Bulgarian
    0.06904831 Greek_&_Balkan:Macedonian:Central
    0.07332626 Italian:Italian_Molise
    0.07333426 Italian:Italian_Abruzzo
    0.07524218 French_&_German:Austrian
    0.07620069 Italian:Sicilian_East
    0.07829154 Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
    0.07843753 French_&_German:German
    0.08000416 Italian:Italian_Basilicata

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    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.7203% / 0.01720285
    75.2 British_&_Irish:Irish
    24.8 Scandinavian:Swedish

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.01848790 British_&_Irish:Irish
    0.01963632 British_&_Irish:Scottish
    0.02067727 Scandinaviananish
    0.02206228 British_&_Irish:English
    0.02219810 British_&_Irish:Welsh
    0.02336456 Scandinavian:Norwegian
    0.02454052 British_&_Irish:English_Cornwall
    0.02678893 Scandinavian:Swedish
    0.03333011 French_&_German:German
    0.04754192 French_&_German:Austrian
    0.04761548 French_&_German:French_Paris
    0.05029695 French_&_German:Swiss_German
    0.05810468 French_&_German:French_Occitanie
    0.06076095 Eastern_European:Slovakian
    0.06462540 Eastern_Europeanolish
    0.06464720 French_&_German:Swiss_French
    0.07212042 Eastern_European:Ukrainian
    0.07686893 Finnish:Finnish
    0.07691614 Eastern_European:Russian_Voronez
    0.07793697 Greek_&_Balkan:Italian_Northeast
    0.08104556 Eastern_European:Cossack_Kuban
    0.08366022 Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Aragon
    0.08640517 Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.08850740 Eastern_European:Russian_Kostroma
    0.08906773 Greek_&_Balkan:Bulgarian

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.01720285 75.20% British_&_Irish:Irish + 24.80% Scandinavian:Swedish
    0.01750013 64.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 35.20% Scandinaviananish
    0.01756906 93.20% British_&_Irish:Irish + 6.80% Eastern_European:Cossack_Kuban
    0.01789177 94.20% British_&_Irish:Irish + 5.80% Eastern_European:Russian_Voronez
    0.01793254 93.20% British_&_Irish:Irish + 6.80% Eastern_Europeanolish
    0.01796523 94.40% British_&_Irish:Irish + 5.60% Finnish:Finnish
    0.01802314 94.40% British_&_Irish:Irish + 5.60% Eastern_European:Ukrainian
    0.01810809 95.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 4.20% Eastern_European:Russian_Kostroma
    0.01821448 94.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 5.20% Eastern_European:Slovakian
    0.01824532 83.00% British_&_Irish:Irish + 17.00% Scandinavian:Norwegian
    0.01847539 90.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 9.20% British_&_Irish:Scottish
    0.01847801 97.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 2.20% French_&_German:German
    0.01848581 97.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 2.20% British_&_Irish:Welsh
    0.01848788 99.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 0.20% British_&_Irish:English
    0.01882363 77.40% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 22.60% Scandinavian:Swedish
    0.01884508 60.60% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 39.40% Scandinaviananish
    0.01921434 76.60% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 23.40% Scandinavian:Norwegian
    0.01933236 95.80% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 4.20% Eastern_European:Cossack_Kuban
    0.01945201 96.60% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 3.40% Finnish:Finnish
    0.01959129 98.40% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 1.60% Eastern_European:Russian_Kostroma
    0.01959693 98.00% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 2.00% Eastern_Europeanolish
    0.01959808 98.40% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 1.60% Eastern_European:Russian_Voronez
    0.01961868 98.80% British_&_Irish:Scottish + 1.20% Eastern_European:Ukrainian
    0.01965879 38.40% British_&_Irish:Welsh + 61.60% Scandinaviananish
    0.01968303 38.80% British_&_Irish:English + 61.20% Scandinaviananish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    0.01848788 99.80% British_&_Irish:Irish + 0.20% British_&_Irish:English
    I am more English than you!!!

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01615030 5.40% British_&_Irish:English + 94.60% Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Aragon
    Edit:27 times more English than you!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    I am more English than you!!!
    I don't have much affinity to the English samples on G25 even though I'm close distance wise. I'm very Irish/Scottish shifted. Not really sure why I don't tend to get English on G25 models. Possibly if there was more English samples. I'd be closer to Northern English than Southern English for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I don't have much affinity to the English samples on G25 even though I'm close distance wise. I'm very Irish/Scottish shifted. Not really sure why I don't tend to get English on G25 models. Possibly if there was more English samples. I'd be closer to Northern English than Southern English for example.
    Please Grace, you don't have to make excuses for that, it was just a joke ...

    I am 0% English.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Please Grace, you don't have to make excuses for that, it was just a joke ...

    I am 0% English.
    No it's an interesting question and something I've noticed before. I know you're joking but I'm also curious why some of these things occur. Another thing is I get Swedish over Danish or Norwegian even though I'm closer to the other two distance wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    No it's an interesting question and something I've noticed before. I know you're joking but I'm also curious why some of these things occur. Another thing is I get Swedish over Danish or Norwegian even though I'm closer to the other two distance wise.
    It's just one of the lots of different ways that the algorithm has of modeling us with the available references, nothing more.

    If you remove the Irish reference (and maybe a few others), it will obviously model you with a high% English with an acceptable distance.


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    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 1.6403% / 0.01640269
    72.0	Spanish_&_Portuguese
    23.0	Italian
    3.2	North_African
    1.4	Eastern_European
    0.4	Broadly_Melanesian
    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 1.6761% / 0.01676133 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    74.2	Spanish_&_Portuguese
    22.8	Italian
    3.0	North_African
    Code:
    Distance to:	Viriato_scaled
    0.02025617	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02098579	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02367662	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Portuguese
    0.03077932	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Aragon
    0.03419969	Italian:Italian_Liguria
    0.04521597	French_&_German:French_Occitanie
    0.04574538	Greek_&_Balkan:Italian_Northeast
    0.04613005	French_&_German:Swiss_French
    0.04993188	Italian:Italian_Tuscany
    0.05335460	French_&_German:Swiss_German
    YDNA: R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    It's just one of the lots of different ways that the algorithm has of modeling us with the available references, nothing more.

    If you remove the Irish reference (and maybe a few others), it will obviously model you with a high% English with an acceptable distance.
    No actually on models I will get some non-British populations over English. If the English samples were increased that might change. When I first got G25 Ireland was not even my closest country. I was closest to Icelandic but when the Irish samples were increased Ireland is now my closest and Icelandic is second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 1.6403% / 0.01640269
    72.0	Spanish_&_Portuguese
    23.0	Italian
    3.2	North_African
    1.4	Eastern_European
    0.4	Broadly_Melanesian
    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 1.6761% / 0.01676133 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    74.2	Spanish_&_Portuguese
    22.8	Italian
    3.0	North_African
    Code:
    Distance to:	Viriato_scaled
    0.02025617	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Andalucia
    0.02098579	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    0.02367662	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Portuguese
    0.03077932	Spanish_&_Portuguese:Spanish_Aragon
    0.03419969	Italian:Italian_Liguria
    0.04521597	French_&_German:French_Occitanie
    0.04574538	Greek_&_Balkan:Italian_Northeast
    0.04613005	French_&_German:Swiss_French
    0.04993188	Italian:Italian_Tuscany
    0.05335460	French_&_German:Swiss_German
    it's not great for you. I should be getting a bit more NA than you.



    but then again it's just a calculator so it's to be taken with a grain of salt.

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