Ask rothaer anything

[Victor]

As for pressure and no pressure - in my opinion it all comes from firstly serfdom

Serfdom in German lands and Austro-Hungarian Empire was quite severe, took over much bigger % of peasant populace. In most hardcore serfdom periods it took only up to 50% of peasant population in Russia (~25-30% in other periods). Whole regions never experienced it. Austro-Hungarian serfdom was abolished just like 10 years before serfdom in Russia.

Free and brave Ukraine was a place of the most severe and massive serfdom. Both Central under Russia and Western under Poles.

I mean, nothing nowadays can be justified or explained by serfdom which is non existent since 1861.

[Not a Cop]

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I mean, nothing nowadays can be justified or explained by serfdom which is non existent since 1861.[/QUOTE]

Let me make a short historical note, 30 seconds, maybe a minute.

But i really mean that it can, a great mass of people became free only for 50 years just to be put in perhaps even more inhumane kolhozes later.

As for percentage of serfdom- we should also include state peasants, which was a lighter form of dependency, but still pretty bad. As for parts which never experienced serfdom - you're right, that's may be the reason, why Russian North, Siberia and Far-East have much less corruption and more trustable people in general. I even made my personal rule - i always double check people coming from south of Ryazan, they are too prone to lying, scaming and bad behaviour in general.

[Not a Cop]

. Just consider which parts of Germany do most oppose to take part in the destructive current national masochism.

Funnily enough AFD even uses the Slavic color palette, probably unintentionally, but you know, just small things you notice.

[Victor]

i always double check people coming from south of Ryazan, they are too prone to lying, scaming and bad behaviour in general.

Sounds like Central Ukrainians, I dislike them a lot, having much of life experience. Average Russians are often sentimentally touched by the image of Ukrainians from Gogol's novels, while they make me want to vomit.

You know the proverb, "A Ukrainian was born and a Jew started crying".

[Blondie]

Wenn German settlers of Pomeranian stock wanted to express the appreciation of someone among them they said he is a harter Kaschube (hard Kashub). This touches the core. Slavs are very resilient and can stand whatever hardship where Germanics and Old Germans with high claims and ambition with unsatisfying conditions after some unsuccess would become demoralised and get into despair, not to say, they can become mentally destructed by disadvantagous conditions. Slavs are undestructable in that sense. While (proto) Germanics are somewhat soul-less and contentless (I hope I'll now not get attacked from another direction instead) and sensitive performers with some deficiency in instincts, (proto) Slavs are very vital with strong biological instincts. Actually, Slavs deliberately just running with 10% (figuratively) of their possible performance is the cause of their indestructibility. It's comparable with a male lion that is known for not doing anything unnecessary but worst case being ready for notable action. Slavs never run out of moral reserves. The can always even double or fourdouble their effort when this is required by unexpected conditions.

Considering today's conditions the whole German people ideally should be a harter Kaschube to resist and overcome the current situation for promoting a later recoverage. And when this is managed, the Slavic part of the ancestry of Germans will notably have contributed to that. Just consider which parts of Germany do most oppose to take part in the destructive current national masochism.

Makes no sense to talk about "slavs", slavic nations have different behaviour. Just compare slovaks with serbs, you will see a world difference.

[Russki]

Just for the record: This is not about Slav bashing and after all it started with me talking about myself. I can formulate advantagous aspects about (proto) Slavic traits as well.

Wenn German settlers of Pomeranian stock wanted to express the appreciation of someone among them they said he is a harter Kaschube (hard Kashub). This touches the core. Slavs are very resilient and can stand whatever hardship where Germanics and Old Germans with high claims and ambition with unsatisfying conditions after some unsuccess would become demoralised and get into despair, not to say, they can become mentally destructed by disadvantagous conditions. Slavs are undestructable in that sense. While (proto) Germanics are somewhat soul-less and contentless (I hope I'll now not get attacked from another direction instead) and sensitive performers with some deficiency in instincts, (proto) Slavs are very vital with strong biological instincts. Actually, Slavs deliberately just running with 10% (figuratively) of their possible performance is the cause of their indestructibility. It's comparable with a male lion that is known for not doing anything unnecessary but worst case being ready for notable action. Slavs never run out of moral reserves. The can always even double or fourdouble their effort when this is required by unexpected conditions.

Considering today's conditions the whole German people ideally should be a harter Kaschube to resist and overcome the current situation for promoting a later recoverage. And when this is managed, the Slavic part of the ancestry of Germans will notably have contributed to that. Just consider which parts of Germany do most oppose to take part in the destructive current national masochism.

Germans lack toughness and resilience. I can not assess to which extent it is genetic and to which extent it is social/cultural.

[Victor]

Germans lack toughness and resilience. I can not assess to which extent it is genetic and to which extent it is social/cultural.

This type of people prefer brave Ukrainian niggas to fight for them, so they can change their diapers talking about importance of freedom and how it's better to die rather than "living on knees".

[Scarface F]

Makes no sense to talk about "slavs", slavic nations have different behaviour. Just compare slovaks with serbs, you will see a world difference.

Slovaks are notably more Slavic than Serbs genetically, so their mentality should be closer to what proto Slavs were compared to Serb one.

[Scarface F]

I found interesting sociological anylsis of different mentality of Catholics in 3 different cultural circles in Croatia. In Panonnian belt, which is closest to resemble that of early Slavs in landscapes and culture, they noticed passivity and remnants of feudal mentality that was mentioned in posts above when discussing Russia.

"The Mediterranean belt still has in it something of the medieval communal arrangement, which strongly reflects on the relationship between the clergy and the faithful, on the co-responsibility of the faithful for their parish, on the liturgical feeling of the faithful, on some freedom with which the faithful treat church problems; number of clergy in relation towards the faithful is relatively high, the parishes are small, there is a great historical artistic treasure, tourism is somehow an internal factor of church life as well, the consciousness of attachment to 'our little place' and local tradition is very much alive."

"Dinaric belt" - our theologians continue - "in which memories of the battles with the Turks still live, is much different, the attitude towards the clergy is quite different, family and tribal traditions are firm and holy, the cult of a certain heroic pride is indestructible, the ability for joint action - in which still the priest can easily be an authoritative leader - very mobile."

"Feudalism left the most traces on the Church in the Pannonian belt: it began to free itself from it too late, so its elements are still somehow present in different forms. The parishes are huge, the people are mostly pious, but relatively passive in relation to the events in their own parish or in the Church in general; as if he feels the Church somehow as an authority over him to which he must honestly submit to a certain extent, obey it because it does not teach anything evil, but he feels less like a co-responsible part of the church community. It is as if long experiences have taught that the authority - even the church one - you have to obey it after all, but it's better if you don't have much to do with it.

Description of Pannonians sounds very Slavic.

[Victor]

I obey it because it does not teach anything evil

We must learn own faith whole of the life and check what priests say during the sermon, notice all the liturgical and canonical disorders, because there are lots of modernists inside Church. I left my first parish, because it was an ultra modernist spirited one. The abbot of this parish is a friend of a famous Russian ultramodernist and propagandist of heresies, Alexander Men'. Attitude to a priest like to some kind of all-knowing guru is not acceptable for a Christian. This lukewarmness like "they know better than we do" was typical for Russia in 90s when masses of people who were out of Church for 1-2-3 generations flown in. You have priests who pervert the Scriptures, who deny that humankind is saved through the Christ's sacrifice, even those who say that all kind of faiths is a way to truth, everything possible.