Survey: Macedonians believe that Serbia is their Best Friend and Bulgaria their Greatest Enemy

[Lioncourt]

The more presure on them to impose on them Bulgarian identity, the more they dislike Bulgaria and see them as enemy.

North Macedonians have their own identity and are satisfied with it.

Nobody cares about their identity today. Bulgarians just don't want North Macedonia to steal from Bulgarian history and to deny that majority of Macedonians identified as Bulgarian prior to 1945.

[Dušan]

Nobody cares about their identity today. Bulgarians just don't want North Macedonia to steal from Bulgarian history and to deny that majority of Macedonians identified as Bulgarian prior to 1945.

Can you show us any population census result that N.Macedonians identified as Bulgarians prior to 1945?

[Varda]

North Macedonians are artificial nationality, just like Montenigrins who are Serbs and Moldovans who are really Romanians. If they ended up in Bulgaria, instead of Serbia after Balkan Wars or earlier, they would naturally identify as Bulgarian with no trouble and no one would even talk of them.

Yes, Montenegrins are Serbs. Even today large part of them have Serbian identity and majority carry double Serbian-Montenegrin identity. On the census in 2011. in Montenegro there was 45% declared Montenegrins and 29% declared Serbs, in the same time 42% of population recognized own language as Serbian and 37% as Montenegrin. Percentage of declared Serbs and Serbian speakers on the census from December 2023. is for sure significant higher, and baceuse of that Montenegrin regime don't want to publish results yet. Montenegrin language doesn't exist in reality, it is just politics. In Montenegro exist 2 Serbian dialects and speakers of both exist among Serbs outsude of Montenegro (in BiH and Serbia) as well.

Macedonians are linguistically and genetically quite closer to Bulgarians than to us Serbs, but their Bulgarian an any other identity through history is debatable. If what is now North Macedonia belonged to Bulgaria after Balkan wars 1912/13 today Slavic speaking Orthodox population of NM would be declared Bulgarians or at least majority of them. Small part of historical Macedonia around mountain Pirin belonged to Bulgaria after Balkan wars and locals there today are regular Bulgarians.

[Victor]

Modern Macedonian nationalism is indeed an ugly Communist product, I mean Commies made the cincaro-slavic peasants believe their quasi state has something to do with Ancient Macedonia and Alexander the Great. Commies created their schismatic church. It's a failed useless state with no future, based on delusional mythology, existence of Macedonia is useless (just like of lots other countries).

Tito and his masterminds, at least, had some plans of gaining Aegean sea access through "united Macedonia" using the Greeks, but after all of this was stopped, there's no objective need for FYROM's existence.

[pelikarski]

Macedonians are linguistically and genetically quite closet to Bulgarians than to us Serbs, but their Bulgarian an any other identity through history is debatable. If what is now North Macedonia belonged to Bulgaria after Balkan wars 1912/13 today Slavic speaking Orthodox population of NM would be declared Bulgarians or at least majority of them. Small part of historical Macedonia around mountain Pirin belonged to Bulgaria after Balkan wars and locals there today are regular Bulgarians.

Macedonians are fake ethnicity made by the Cominterm.
Communists also wanted to convert South Western Bulgarians into Macedonians, by terrorising them to declare as such and imposing "Macedonian language"
The Bled agreement between Tito and Georgi Dimitrov, which in return Bulgaria would get its Western outskirts.
One of the biggest National betrayls by the commie Dimitrov, luckily the relations between Tito and Stalin escalated and that never happened

[Victor]

Macedonians are fake ethnicity made by the Cominterm.
Communists also wanted to convert South Western Bulgarians into Macedonians, by terrorising them to declare as such and imposing "Macedonian language"
The Bled agreement between Tito and Georgi Dimitrov, which in return Bulgaria would get its Western outskirts.
One of the biggest National betrayls by the commie Dimitrov, luckily the relations between Tito and Stalin escalated and that never happened

Not by Comintern, but by post WWII Tito's Yugoslavia. And the only reason he needed it, is an idea of creating "united Macedonia" with access to Aegean sea.

[pelikarski]

Not by Comintern, but by post WWII Tito's Yugoslavia. And the only reason he needed it, is an idea of creating "united Macedonia" with access to Aegean sea.

The Debulgarization of the region started way earlier.

[Victor]

The Debulgarization of the region started way earlier.

There were no Communist authorities there before WWII

[Dušan]

Modern Macedonian nationalism is indeed an ugly Communist product, I mean Commies made the cincaro-slavic peasants believe their quasi state has something to do with Ancient Macedonia and Alexander the Great. Commies created their schismatic church. It's a failed useless state with no future, based on delusional mythology, existence of Macedonia is useless (just like of lots other countries).

Tito and his masterminds, at least, had some plans of gaining Aegean sea access through "united Macedonia" using the Greeks, but after all of this was stopped, there's no objective need for FYROM's existence.

There were attempts from both Bulgarians and Serbs sides in past to N. Macedonians adopt these identities, and all of that failed.
They are close relatives, but still different and on their own.

Anyway, I like to see small friendly country on our southern borders, on our transit to Greece, than it is part of greater Bulgaria.

[Lioncourt]

Can you show us any population census result that N.Macedonians identified as Bulgarians prior to 1945?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demo...Ottoman_Empire

1905-1906 census is pretty straightforward. Bulgaria at that time was pretty much the same territory as it was today, with only small part of modern Bulgaria in the Ottoman empire. No mention of "Macedonians" anywhere.