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    Default Deep Ancient Current Era 1 AD - 1900 AD: 8 Euro samples + Anzick

    For those who don't have DNAGenics subscription, here is their DEEP ANCIENT CURRENT ERA (1 AD - 1900 AD) calc using their 8 samples only (obviously for Europeans, so don't take offense if you have genetics primarily outside of Europe), but I added one additional:Native American Anzick.

    My results:

    ORIGINAL 8, NO ANZICK:

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 2.7399% / 0.02739896

    48.2 Piedmont
    21.4 Nordic
    16.2 Oland
    14.2 Villa_Magna

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
    40.8 Piedmont
    30.8 Oland
    28.4 Nordic


    ORIGINAL+ANZICK:
    (I think Anzick makes my Euro more accurate)

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 2.4843% / 0.02484274

    46.4 Oland
    37.4 Piedmont
    10.6 Villa_Magna
    3.4 Langeland
    2.2 USA_Anzick

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
    40.8 Piedmont
    30.8 Oland
    28.4 Nordic


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    If you guys want to work with me to expand on this one to include more regions, post some samples to help others out. Thanks.


    SamplesOriginal+1:




    Here are some additional samples for a possible expansion of the above:



    BOTH SAMPLE SETS COMBINED INTO ONE FILE HERE:



    With both sample sets:


    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 1.9409% / 0.01940894

    47.4 Piedmont
    18.2 Nordic
    10.6 Spain_Medieval
    9.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    5.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
    2.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
    2.2 Oland
    1.8 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval
    1.4 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2
    0.4 USA_Anzick
    0.2 Russia_Medieval_Nomad.SG

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
    40.8 Piedmont
    30.8 Oland
    28.4 Nordic

    and lastly, R5P with all samples:

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 1.9777% / 0.01977659 | R5P

    44.8 Piedmont
    20.6 Nordic
    17.6 Spain_Medieval
    11.8 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    5.2 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval
    Last edited by ScandinavianCelt; 04-29-2024 at 07:20 PM.

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    Target: Dilan_simulated_g25_scaled
    Distance: 1.4690% / 0.01468990 | R5P
    36.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
    26.8 Spain_Medieval
    21.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
    11.4 Turkey_Medieval
    4.2 Villa_Magna
    EEF 45% YAMNAYA 39.4% BHG 8.6% MAYKOP 7%

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    Target: Eurafricanid-EU
    Distance: 1.8844% / 0.01884373
    85.0 Spain_Medieval
    7.8 Turkey_Medieval
    7.2 Nordic
    46.8 Sub-Saharan_African
    24.4 Spanish_Castello
    21.6 Spanish_Menorca
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    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
    65.2 Spain_Medieval
    11.3 Oxford
    10.0 Funen
    7.8 Villa_Magna
    4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
    0.4 Oland
    0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


    you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

    Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

    Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
    45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    12.0 WHG
    50.6 Anatolian_&_Balkan_Farmer
    38.2 Yamnaya_Pontic-Caspian_Steppe
    10.7 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    0.5 North_African_Farmer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
    65.2 Spain_Medieval
    11.3 Oxford
    10.0 Funen
    7.8 Villa_Magna
    4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
    0.4 Oland
    0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


    you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

    Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

    Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
    45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    12.0 WHG
    That's the one they use on their website so I guess it's to represent the yamnaya versus farming versus hunter-gatherer element I don't know it looks that way

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    Target: NightmareCity_scaled
    Distance: 2.2294% / 0.02229355 | R5P
    27.4 Spain_Medieval:I10895
    18.2 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
    16.2 Spain_Medieval:I10852
    10.6 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KVWUM002
    7.8 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KV-NKA0027
    6.4 South_Amerindian:Karitiana:HGDP00998
    4.0 SSA:Luhya_Kenya:NA19026
    3.0 Spain_Medieval:I10897
    2.6 South_Amerindian:Karitiana:HGDP01001
    2.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
    1.4 Spain_Medieval:I10853
    0.2 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KVWUM003

    with chebyshev is good aswell

    Target: NightmareCity_scaled
    Chebyshev distance: 0.7615% / 0.00761495
    35.2 Spain_Medieval
    19.6 Bantu-West
    17.1 Oxford
    7.7 Native_Brazilian
    5.7 Turkey_PostMedieval
    4.6 Villa_Magna
    2.1 Western_African
    1.8 Luhya_Kenya
    1.8 Karitiana
    1.2 Nordic
    1.0 Amerindian
    1.0 Turkey_Medieval
    0.6 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    0.4 Langeland
    0.2 South_Amerindian
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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02222742 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.02820906 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
    0.03145671 Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
    0.03688140 Langelandenmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
    0.03770204 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
    0.04390467 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
    0.05366791 Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
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    0.08289998 Spain_Medieval:I10895
    0.08331692 Spain_Medieval:I10892
    0.08853435 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
    0.08879027 Spain_Medieval:I10897
    0.09456720 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIa_1_noUDG.SG
    0.09609963 Spain_Medieval:I10852
    0.09646934 Spain_Medieval:I10853
    0.10837630 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IVLS09KT_1_noUDG.SG
    0.15913066 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
    0.15983071 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
    0.16532180 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
    0.16712448 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
    0.19429061 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
    0.19650894 Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
    0.20367347 Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 0.0174% / 0.01743610
    69.8 Piedmont
    12.7 Spain_Medieval
    6.7 Oland
    4.9 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    3.0 Langeland
    2.2 Funen
    0.7 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG

    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.01863703 87.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 13.00% Spain_Medieval:I10892
    0.01928161 88.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 12.00% Spain_Medieval:I10895
    0.01931195 89.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 10.40% Spain_Medieval:I10853
    0.01962912 89.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 10.80% Spain_Medieval:I10897
    0.01990967 33.00% Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG + 67.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.01996560 90.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 9.40% Spain_Medieval:I10852
    0.02076419 86.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 13.40% Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    0.02085122 13.40% Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG + 86.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.02085447 24.60% Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG + 75.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.02106777 96.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 3.40% Turkey_Medieval:I4540
    0.02109925 91.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 8.60% Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
    0.02115827 91.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 8.80% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
    0.02125481 14.40% Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG + 85.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.02139146 16.80% Langelandenmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG + 83.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.02146864 97.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.80% Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
    0.02149472 97.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.80% Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
    0.02172674 98.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.00% Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
    0.02188819 97.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.40% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
    0.02196296 98.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.00% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
    0.02202612 98.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 1.80% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
    0.02204703 98.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 1.80% Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
    0.02207960 97.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 3.00% Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
    0.02215677 99.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 0.80% Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959
    0.02217926 99.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 0.60% Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
    0.02219381 3.80% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 96.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146

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    Target: Petalpusher
    Distance: 4.1618% / 0.04161811
    57.6 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
    26.6 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    13.0 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
    2.8 Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG


    Distance to: Petalpusher
    0.04541753 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
    0.04993145 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    0.05103640 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
    0.05186064 Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
    0.05641478 Funenenmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
    0.05839961 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    0.05934604 Langelandenmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
    0.05940694 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
    0.06555378 Spain_Medieval:I10895
    0.06744976 Spain_Medieval:I10892
    0.07248014 Spain_Medieval:I10897
    0.07592629 Spain_Medieval:I10852
    0.07964828 Spain_Medieval:I10853
    0.08585514 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
    0.08692353 Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
    0.10703489 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
    0.11376274 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIa_1_noUDG.SG
    0.12704896 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IVLS09KT_1_noUDG.SG
    0.16732926 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
    0.17284550 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
    0.17492136 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
    0.18009405 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
    0.19168853 Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
    0.19402596 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
    0.20100449 Turkey_Medieval:I4540
    0.22547760 Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959
    0.23374771 Pakistan_Singoor_Medieval:I1805
    0.23585890 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
    0.23925545 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
    0.27722921 Russia_Medieval_Nomad.SGA142_noUDG.SG
    0.30208234 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2:I7715
    0.34176127 Russia_KusnarenkovoKarajakupovo_Medieval.SG:MS20.S G
    0.36577550 Romania_Medieval:I10495
    0.47551360 Russia_AngaraRiver_Medieval.SG:irk032_noUDG.SG
    0.54126938 Russia_UstBelaya_Angara_Medieval:I7781
    0.59093766 Russia_Yana_Medieval.SG:Yana_Young_noUDG.SG
    0.61083722 Russia_EarlyMedieval_Heshui_Mohe_1:I3358
    0.64910937 USA_Anzick:Anzick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
    65.2 Spain_Medieval
    11.3 Oxford
    10.0 Funen
    7.8 Villa_Magna
    4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
    0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
    0.4 Oland
    0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


    you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

    Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

    Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
    Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
    45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    12.0 WHG
    I just added these two in additional samples list, which plot a bit more southern than Villa_Magna

    Italy_Medieval.SG:VK536_noUDG.SG,0.110408,0.14319, 0.009805,-0.031654,0.01508,-0.008088,0.000235,0.002077,0.001841,0.024237,0.004 709,0.009891,-0.015758,-0.004542,-0.003664,-0.002387,0.001434,-0.00152,-0.003897,-0.000625,-0.006114,0.011129,0.003697,0.000361,-0.004311
    Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG,0.106994,0.14 6236,0.001886,-0.031008,0.012925,-0.01004,0.007755,-0.003692,0.006954,0.013668,-0.002923,0.00045,-0.003419,0.005367,-0.002443,-0.005967,-0.016689,-0.000127,0.000754,-0.005127,-0.006738,-0.004204,-0.002711,0.000964,-0.000838



    It factors in for my results:

    Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
    Distance: 1.9413% / 0.01941293
    47.6 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
    18.6 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
    10.6 Spain_Medieval:I10897
    9.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
    6.0 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG
    2.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
    1.8 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2:I7715
    1.6 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
    1.4 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
    0.4 USA_Anzick:Anzick

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    Target: djipon_scaled
    Distance: 2.2845% / 0.02284471 | R5P
    36.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
    27.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
    15.0 Turkey_PostMedieval
    11.0 Funen
    10.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG

    Target: mom_scaled
    Distance: 2.3684% / 0.02368407 | R5P
    43.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
    30.4 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
    19.4 Turkey_Medieval
    4.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
    2.2 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG

    Target: dad_scaled
    Distance: 2.4104% / 0.02410440 | R5P
    39.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
    27.8 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
    13.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
    11.8 Funen
    7.0 Turkey_Medieval

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