If we want to give the gypsies a "single" race can we describe them broadly as ...?

[Mortimer]

Gypsies can't be considered fully Caucasoid, since I've seen photos of Gypsies with Australoid admixture.

Some of those photos on google images are obviously fake i mean the ones showing them teethless and with the grins and some are not gypsies but untouchables from india but i dont know which photos you mean. They might have very minor influences like some of my family members example

i think grandfather shows minor weddoid influences in nose but in overall phenotype it is dilluted and he looks "western eurasian"


also if you dont know they are gypsies or with lighter pigmentation they might be baltid like oliver khan who looks like a aboriginal too just blonde and light skinned. Going by genetics gypsies are overwhelmingly western eurasian and on population level you dont neeed to be really 100% many populations considered broadly caucasoid have some type of eastern eurosian admixture too. And no anthropologist classified as mixed australoid population like the veddoids, no anthropologist did that, i guess because they did serious studies on population level like coon and not just hobby racism.

[NSXD60]

Cauc-Ravens! Nevermore? Okay.

[Mortimer]

Cauc-Ravens! Nevermore? Okay.

I think the Anglosphere considers the Gypsies "as white" i noticed that, but not only the light english gypsies also the dark hungarian gypsies, they would say like they are "dark and black eyed" but as if they are still white

example this in usa or australia. do you have also the feeling he is considered "white"?

[NSXD60]

I think the Anglosphere considers the Gypsies "as white" i noticed that, but not only the light english gypsies also the dark hungarian gypsies, they would say like they are "dark and black eyed" but as if they are still white

example this in usa or australia. do you have also the feeling he is considered "white"?

He just looks Hungarian.

[Mortimer]

He just looks Hungarian.

maybe part hungarian he definitely looks not like a full hungarian

[rothaer]

Nope, only whites are west eurasian, because this is where you can find Europe. West asians, central asians are not west eurasians.

Turks are also West Eurasians. And they are West Asians as well. There is no contradiction.

Considering that Gypsies also have some SE European contribution they exceed what can be grasped with Asia. While you do grasp all of what they are if you refer to Eurasia. This said, West Eurasians would be the more suitable category.

But as a lot of pretty different people are West Eurasians, in particular also Europeans, such a broad term somewhat fogs what Gypsies are. I consider them well described with the term Gypsy because everyone knows what is a Gypsy.

This thread topic in tendency is another try to disconnect Gypsies from their acquired reputation.

Millions of Europeans have made experiences with Gypsies for centuries and all these valuable experiences have been summarised in the reputation of Gypsies. You, Mortimer, now want to evoke a kind of amnesia by switching the label and make non-Gypsies unbiased and clueless again, like pre-1300 AD.

[Mortimer]

Turks are also West Eurasians. And they are West Asians as well. There is no contradiction.

Considering that Gypsies also have some SE European contribution they exceed what can be grasped with Asia. While you do grasp all of what they are if you refer to Eurasia. This said, West Eurasians would be the more suitable category.

But as a lot of pretty different people are West Eurasians, in particular also Europeans, such a broad term somewhat fogs what Gypsies are. I consider them well described with the term Gypsy because everyone knows what is a Gypsy.

This thread topic is just another try to disconnect Gypsies from their acquired reputation.

Millions of Europeans have made experiences with Gypsies for many centuries and all these experiences have been summarised in the reputation of Gypsies. You, Mortimer, now want to evoke a kind of amnesia by switching the label and make non-Gypsies unbiased and clueless again, like pre-1300 AD.

This. That is the only reason i said it like that, to cover all of their influences, "euroasia" works too. I dont say anything about their reputation. I call myself Tramp and Thieve in my profile.