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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky earth View Post
    Uzbeks are genetically almost half Mongoloid with 40 % Mongoloid admxiture on average. Turkmens and Tajiks have also 15-20 % Mongoloid admixture on average which is significant. I have noticed that many Kazakhs have a stupid stereotype about Uzbeks that all of them are Iranic looking Caucasoids which isn't true
    Man. There are lot of uzbeks in southern regions of Kazakhstan. Most of them are absolutely caucasoids (more than 90%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    Can you post examples of what consitutes Turanid in your opinion?
    The three women behind the numbers:
    Alföldi type:


    Mongolo-Turanid:


    Andronovo type:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    It just bothers me. How we called turanian race? Really, just look at kazakhs
    You bring up a fair point. I've been both to your country and Tajikistan and can honestly say say Kazakh and Tajik phenotypes are not exactly the same. While there was indeed a paper that showed mongoloid admixture among the people of Tajikistan it should be noted that admixture is not uniform among all sub-ethnic groups within that country. Some Tajiks in the more remote isolated regions like Yagnobi people don't even look all that mongoloid or even Turanid. In Dushanbe, most people's phenotypes showed a prevailing blend of west and south Asian. Granted they may have autosomal traits that show mongoloid admixture but average Tajik does not look like average Kazakh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Turan is not a one day/night passion. Time can not change the hearts and minds of tr00 Turan followers because Turan is limitless in time and space. Turan is not merely a racial classification, Turan is a state of mind, it is the path of the righteous and the doom of the wicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky View Post
    You bring up a fair point. I've been both to your country and Tajikistan and can honestly say say Kazakh and Tajik phenotypes are not exactly the same. While there was indeed a paper that showed mongoloid admixture among the people of Tajikistan it should be noted that admixture is not uniform among all sub-ethnic groups within that country. Some Tajiks in the more remote isolated regions like Yagnobi people don't even look all that mongoloid or even Turanid. In Dushanbe, most people's phenotypes showed a prevailing blend of west and south Asian. Granted they may have autosomal traits that show mongoloid admixture but average Tajik does not look like average Kazakh.
    Yes. We all know that. But I think term "turanid" itself is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The three women behind the numbers:
    Alföldi type:


    Mongolo-Turanid:


    Andronovo type:
    Those are just overweight Alpinid women imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    Those are just overweight Alpinid women imo.
    LOL! The one in the middle looks a bit chinky to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    Man. There are lot of uzbeks in southern regions of Kazakhstan. Most of them are absolutely caucasoids (more than 90%)
    Sorry but based on the pictures of Uzbeks what I've seen many of them have visible Mongoloid features or look even predominantly Mongoloid. The Uzbeks from Afghanistan look more Mongoloid admixed than the Uzbeks from Uzbekistan

    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/...rkhan+Sev2.jpg

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...COCa89AJ#gid=0

    As you can see here Uzbeks have 40 % Mongoloid admixture on average which is significant and makes them definitely not fully Caucasoid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    It just bothers me. How we called turanian race? Really, just look at kazakhs
    Turanid:


    Andronov type Turanid:


    Presumably Baikal type + Turanoid:


    Aralid (Pamirid subtype):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    Yes. We all know that. But I think term "turanid" itself is wrong.
    Its a term invented before the use of admixture analysis and ergo thrown around somewhat wreck-lessy cause someone with 5% east Asian and 95% west Eurasian autosomal scores is probably not going to look the same as someone with the inverse of that. Yet the Coonian anthropologists simply latched on to the concept of any arbitrary amount of east+west eurasian traits = turanid.

    yes, I know what you mean.

    tr00ly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Turan is not a one day/night passion. Time can not change the hearts and minds of tr00 Turan followers because Turan is limitless in time and space. Turan is not merely a racial classification, Turan is a state of mind, it is the path of the righteous and the doom of the wicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    Those are just overweight Alpinid women imo.

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