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    The only people being cheated by having a national team full of native-born ethnic aliens is the native people of that country, by not having a team that truly represents them. But ethnic-based national teams is not how international sport works unfortunately, nor has it ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashball View Post
    Most French people oppose mass (legal and illegal) immigration and the current government is not really popular
    Waste of time arguing with a leftist.
    Why does Macron keep winning then?

    I am not a leftist btw.

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    Not cheating, but a reflexion of society and years of immigration. Cheating is naturalizing foreign players to play for your national team, that is cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laredo View Post
    In the Americas USA, Colombia, Mexico Trinidad and Tobago etc you are seeing as local regardless of your origins don't understand why can't they be French if they are born and raised there?
    Flashball already explained it very well. He is ethnic french, so i trust him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Majority of Black players are born and raised in France.
    True. Africa Cup of Nations starts this month, the amount of players at that tournament who are from France is enormous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It's automatic at the age of 18 but you can request it before at 13 as long you have lived 5 years there. Many have double nationalities, most. This is how some can switch teams along the way but of course it's better for their career to play for France.
    I guess you are not referring to their career from a financial perspective given money in football is overwhelmingly in the club game rather than at International level, unlike certain other sports. Aubameyang for example probably hasn't lost much financially from representing Gabon.

    Rather you meant from a sporting achievement career, for example that Mbappe would not have played in the last two World Cup finals had he chosen to play for Algeria or Cameroon. However in some cases I wonder if the likes of Ndombélé, Jonathan Ikoné or Nordi Mukiele regret their International career choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    Not cheating, but a reflexion of society and years of immigration. Cheating is naturalizing foreign players to play for your national team, that is cheating.
    Players like Pepe & Deco? Also Spain used Marcos Senna & Diego Costa.

    What is your opinion on ethnically Portuguese players from other countries like Anthony Lopes or Kévin Rodrigues? Or Raphaël Guerreiro who is also from France as is his mother, but father from Portugal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Jones's Locker View Post
    I guess you are not referring to their career from a financial perspective given money in football is overwhelmingly in the club game rather than at International level, unlike certain other sports. Aubameyang for example probably hasn't lost much financially from representing Gabon.

    Rather you meant from a sporting achievement career, for example that Mbappe would not have played in the last two World Cup finals had he chosen to play for Algeria or Cameroon. However in some cases I wonder if the likes of Ndombélé, Jonathan Ikoné or Nordi Mukiele regret their International career choice.
    It's better financially and even from a club perspective to play for a big national team of Europe and those 3 examples show it. It's also the guarantee (almost) to play all major competitions and the exposure that comes with it. Benzema for example admitted it, he felt Algerian but choosed France for that reason, he likely wouldn't have had the same career in club being the 9 of Algeria who gets to play the CAN nobody cares about, and qualify or pass the group stage of the world cup once in every blue moon. Ironically his national career turned out to be lacking in comparison which may or may not be related to voicing this opinion (Deschamps hated his attitude)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Jones's Locker View Post
    Players like Pepe & Deco? Also Spain used Marcos Senna & Diego Costa.
    Yes, that is clearly cheating and is shameful that my country does it, because we don't need it. We have enough good players born in Portugal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Jones's Locker View Post
    What is your opinion on ethnically Portuguese players from other countries like Anthony Lopes or Kévin Rodrigues? Or Raphaël Guerreiro who is also from France as is his mother, but father from Portugal.
    It's also bad because they don't speak the language and had to learn to anthem so they could sing it. But those naturalizations are not as bad as naturalizing brazilians for football, cubans for long jump, nigerians for sprinting, or chinese for table tennis like they also do here so we can win a few medals at the olympics.

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