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Thread: Gonzalo Lira passed away in Ukrainian captivity

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    A lot more than you do, with a far greater variety of sources, not just regime propaganda and controlled opposition

    Have you ever heard of the Boer War?

    Those thousands of women and children victims in British concentration camps were not killed by execution,

    they were killed by disease, severe medical neglect and malnutrition, which are all crimes for which the British regime is responsible

    Did you not read Gonzalo Lira's graphic accounts of systematic torture in prison? He was badly injured in the first place

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...348257280.html
    Gonzalo Lira writes "reports" after he made propaganda for Moscow. Not falling for that propaganda.


    Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Their turn will come. Don't you worry. It'a not like Anton Mussert or Ante Pavelic were put on trial in 1942,now were they? In the meantime, the nihilist, collaborating-with-Putin right does everything to make the afforementioned scummy politicians seem decent and legitimate by comparison. That's the sad part of it.
    We need right wing that are not Russian shills. I am pro Ukrainian right winger in this war, but I also don't support total hate of Russia. I'd wish for another Russian leadership that would want to join EU, retreat from Ukraine (except Crimea) and push Americans from Europe with European patriots together.

    Yes I know this is fantasy scenario right now.

    Btw, Pavelić was traitor to Yugoslavia, not to Croats. We wanted own state and he got it. Unfortunately his regime committed genocide and lost the war along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    We need right wing that are not Russian shills. I am pro Ukrainian right winger in this war, but I also don't support total hate of Russia. I'd wish for another Russian leadership that would want to join EU, retreat from Ukraine (except Crimea) and push Americans from Europe with European patriots together.

    Yes I know this is fantasy scenario right now.

    Btw, Pavelić was traitor to Yugoslavia, not to Croats. We wanted own state and he got it. Unfortunately his regime committed genocide and lost the war along the way.
    The way Pavelic went about it damaged Croatia substantially. For the rest, we agree with each other.


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    As for comparing Lira to the suffering of the Boers. The Ukrainians did not bomb the hospitals, did not bomb the energy sector. If the Russians had not bombed them, he would have still be alive today. We can thus safely say that Lira was murdered by the modern version of the rooinek invader.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    See: the law works. An innocent man is cleared.
    Rittenhouse was also acquitted. This is known as LUCK in an otherwise totally dysfunctional and tyrannical legal system

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    In Russia, the businessman would have been a friend of Putin and the congressmen dead in some prison somewhere. There is the difference between us - and them.
    At worst, Russia is no different from the US in terms of tyranny, only without Weimar depravity and cultural marxism.

    At best, the Russian system is very opaque and Byzantine and there is considerable active subversion by hostile foreign powers,
    there is a LOT of real palace intrigue,

    so I cannot say exactly what is happening in Russia and neither can you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Always the "stab-in-the-back-legend". Or shall we call it a stab-in-the-back-lie ? More applicable.
    Yes, people who don't read Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, or Carl Schmitt cannot distinguish their enemies from their friends,

    and often get stabbed in the back, this happens repeatedly throughout history to naive people

    I wish Trump better luck next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    Rittenhouse was also acquitted. This is known as LUCK in an otherwise totally dysfunctional and tyrannical legal system


    At worst, Russia is no different from the US in terms of tyranny, only without Weimar depravity and cultural marxism.

    At best, the Russian system is very opaque and Byzantine and there is considerable active subversion by hostile foreign powers,
    there is a LOT of real palace intrigue,

    so I cannot say exactly what is happening in Russia and neither can you
    While we can safely say what is happening in the U.S. Funny that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    Yes, people who don't read Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, or Carl Schmitt cannot distinguish their enemies from their friends,

    and often get stabbed in the back, this happens repeatedly throughout history to naive people

    I wish Trump better luck next time
    You are aware of the fact that the stab-in-the-back-legend that the Nazi's used was based on a lie?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    And I am under the impression that they have done this deliberately as Russia wants to create mayhem and chaos here.
    The West is destroying itself without any help from Russia, I will watch from a safe distance and have a good laugh!



    There is already mayhem and chaos, and getting worse every year.

    So the logical move for Russia is to sit back and enjoy, and do not interrupt the Western idiots destroying themselves.



    It is like in judo (which Putin appreciates as a short person like me):

    you do not try to block a seemingly stronger opponent, you use his strength against him, turning his strength into a weakness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Gonzalo Lira writes "reports" after he made propaganda for Moscow. Not falling for that propaganda.
    Yet you eagerly swallow Western "mainstream" media propaganda if it involves RUSSIA, right?

    You do fall for the Russia Derangement Syndrome,
    which is the result of a psychological operation by Western intelligence and the media outlets they control.

    Western "mainstream" media has been caught lying repeatedly about many issues, big and small,
    including anything related to RUSSIA
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