View Full Version : is pakistan near east or far east
Mortimer
11-02-2013, 08:24 AM
i believe rather near east
Hadouken
11-02-2013, 08:26 AM
as far as i know it is south asia
Hadouken
11-02-2013, 08:34 AM
but it doesnt matter gigolo
not that it is important but i told you that you dont look indian . you only have a small indian touch
you would fit in iran ....not in south asia
Han Cholo
11-02-2013, 08:36 AM
South Central Asia.
South Central Asia - closer to the near east.
Immigrant
11-02-2013, 12:36 PM
i would say south asia geographically
Maleficent
11-02-2013, 12:51 PM
In Western Pakistan, the culture overlaps with Iranian, plus Pakistan has indigenous Iranic ethnic groups, which is definitely West Asian. But for the most part, Pakistani culture is pretty much Northwest Indian, which is definitely South Asian.
RandoBloom
11-02-2013, 12:56 PM
Near east is Turkey for heavens sake :D
Mid east is from near east, to borders of India. And from then on its far east
Dombra
11-02-2013, 12:57 PM
Borderline south asia/mid east/central asia
Bandzakovsky
11-02-2013, 08:16 PM
Yes for me also the same like the other comments South Central Asia. Pashtuns are more Near East Racial and also culturally. But Punjabis or Sindh and also Balochs are more Northwest Indian. Ich kenne dich vom Thiazi Forum, das gelöscht wurde.. du bist doch ein serbischer Roma, wo in Österreich lebt ;)
asingh
11-06-2013, 11:13 AM
NW India is just as much India. People make it sound, like it is some exotic off shoot to India. Culture, languages, food is similar to North India (for NW India). Just that there is a state cline, which all states exhibit as you move vertically vs. horizontally on a pan-India spectrum.
Pakistan is just as diverse as India. Geo-politically, we can safely place it in South Asia. Though a lot of Pakistani's abhor this, cause South Asia is primarily seen as == India, due to our large over presence in the continent. So they like to say else wise, but not South Asia. Pakistan has the honorable Pashtun and Balochi people.
RaDsTeR
02-22-2015, 01:32 AM
I agree asingh, Pakistan sits at the cross roads between the Middle/Near East, Central Asia and South Asia. To be honest I think the phrase "Near East" has fallen into disuse recently, Middle East
would be more appropriate. We are definitely not East Asian, because that implies we lie within the Sinosphere *countries within Chinas cultural sphere of influence. Culturally however we
definitely fall into the South Asian category, though there are traces of Persian culture as well.
It annoys me slightly to hear Pakistanis who are convinced we are descended more from Arabs/Persians and that even Urdu *our language* is 50% Persian. This is simply ridiculous. While it is true
some Pakistanis *mostly in Sindh in the south* do have Arab ancestry and that Urdu borrows more from Persian and Arabic than say Hindi, the spoken language is virtually identical.
An example of this is that people say they learn Hindi from Bollywood and just learned it from 'listening to it' rather than just accept the fact that we are speaking essentially the same language.
I believe people say this because it does not fall in the "national narrative" to say we are similar to Indians, when in fact there is probably no country we share more in common with.
Neon Knight
02-22-2015, 01:37 AM
It's far enough.
armenianbodyhair
02-22-2015, 01:38 AM
It can't pass as Greece.
Wadaad
02-22-2015, 01:45 AM
Depends on context...suspiciously OWD question
From Spain, it is far east
From Iran, it is near east.
RaDsTeR
02-22-2015, 02:59 AM
Geographically yes, it is dependent on where you are. Culturally though we can say South Asian to be safe.
it is in south asia not near east or middle east
Óttar
02-22-2015, 03:26 AM
It annoys me slightly to hear Pakistanis who are convinced we are descended more from Arabs/Persians and that even Urdu *our language* is 50% Persian. This is simply ridiculous.
Indeed. Urdu was never widely used as the name of a language until the 20th century. There are only a handful of references to 'Urdu' as a language in Amir Khusro's writings. Hindi was always the preferred term, Dehlawi being another. Ironically, "Urdu" is not even the most widely spoken language in Pakistan. That honor goes to Punjabi. Placing Arabic and Persian vocabulary over an Indo-Aryan grammar does not make it Persian.
Prince Of Macrobia
02-22-2015, 03:45 AM
Pakistan located South-Central Asia.
Shah-Jehan
02-22-2015, 03:50 AM
Indeed. Urdu was never widely used as the name of a language until the 20th century. There are only a handful of references to 'Urdu' as a language in Amir Khusro's writings. Hindi was always the preferred term, Dehlawi being another. Ironically, "Urdu" is not even the most widely spoken language in Pakistan. That honor goes to Punjabi. Placing Arabic and Persian vocabulary over an Indo-Aryan grammar does not make it Persian.
It was not even used in Pakistan until the late 19th to early 20th century when Urdu was used by the British to replace the traditional lingua franca of the region which was the Dari dialect of Farsi/Persian to disassociate any political and cultural associations with Iran and Afghanistan.
asingh
02-25-2015, 04:53 AM
Indeed. Urdu was never widely used as the name of a language until the 20th century. There are only a handful of references to 'Urdu' as a language in Amir Khusro's writings. Hindi was always the preferred term, Dehlawi being another. Ironically, "Urdu" is not even the most widely spoken language in Pakistan. That honor goes to Punjabi. Placing Arabic and Persian vocabulary over an Indo-Aryan grammar does not make it Persian.
Ya, they are replacing a lot of the vocabulary. Some Pakistani serials are shown here in India. The forcefulness can be seen: to avoid Hindi / Sanskrit based words, and replace them with Farsi / Arabic misconstructions.
RaDsTeR
02-25-2015, 11:49 PM
Ya, they are replacing a lot of the vocabulary. Some Pakistani serials are shown here in India. The forcefulness can be seen: to avoid Hindi / Sanskrit based words, and replace them with Farsi / Arabic misconstructions.
Pakistanis do this to strengthen the national narrative, that the people are inherently different and belong to a different "civilization" than Indians. Not very much you can do about this, language evolves over time anyway, and so this is just a way of popularizing it in a certain aspect I suppose.
asingh
02-26-2015, 04:19 PM
Pakistanis do this to strengthen the national narrative, that the people are inherently different and belong to a different "civilization" than Indians. Not very much you can do about this, language evolves over time anyway, and so this is just a way of popularizing it in a certain aspect I suppose.
Oh, I see.
Goujian
02-26-2015, 08:19 PM
i believe rather near east
You're not wrong about that. But I would say south Asia as well.
StonyArabia
03-24-2015, 05:52 AM
culturally closer to the near east, genetically south asian
Kaushika
07-08-2017, 11:23 PM
Western half is Iranic and belongs to ME while Eastern Part is Indic and belongs to North Western region of South Asia.
Ziveth
07-09-2017, 12:04 AM
Near East countries:
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0e7833c8f71303735ab918e54c8c8773
Far East countries:
http://www.atlasofpluckedinstruments.com/far_east/mapfareast.gif
South Asia countries:
http://www.euroradialyouth2016.com/southern_asia/Southern-Asia1.gif
Conclusion: Pakistan is a south Asia country, i think.
zarzian
07-09-2017, 12:06 AM
but it doesnt matter gigolo
not that it is important but i told you that you dont look indian . you only have a small indian touch
you would fit in iran ....not in south asia
To be honest he would fit more in Turkey then Iran
Swarthy_Syndicate
04-17-2021, 05:33 AM
Geographically it’s closer to the Near East than the Far East (because Islam). Not fully South Asian because of the western half which is Iranic culturally (closer to Afghanistan).
princeton90
04-17-2021, 12:36 PM
i believe rather near east
Pakistan is closer to Near East it is to Far East but it is rather a South Asian country.
West Asia = Near East (Middle East)
East Asia = Far East
Neither Central Asia nor South Asia can be classified as such because they are in the transition zone between Middle East and Far East.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
04-18-2021, 03:54 AM
Near East is The Levant and Anatolia if I'm not mistaken (at least the modern definition of it)
Pakistan would be Far-Middle East, not really Far-East because Far East is more leaning toward East Asia (China, Korea, Japan)
West Asia = Near East (Middle East)
East Asia = Far East
Far-Near East Would be a better classification for it, or perhaps Far-Middle East. More or less no one classifies Pakistan as Near, Far or Middle Eastern. People classify it as South Asian.
chinshen
04-18-2021, 04:03 AM
Pakistan is part of Indian Subcontinent which makes it South Asia not the Near East.
Near East is West Asia.
Freeroostah
04-18-2021, 04:11 AM
Neither, its South Asia
Ayetooey
04-19-2021, 03:14 AM
South Asia obviously, but closer to the near east out of the two given options.
tipirneni
04-19-2021, 03:23 AM
South Asia proper due to ancient IVC colonies
Dragoon
04-19-2021, 03:29 AM
Its South Asia.
Youd think if English made any sense it would be: Near East (close to Europe) , Middle East (in between Near and Far), and then Far East.
But instead Near East and Middle East are almost interchangeable.
These terms are still stupid considering the New World was "found" and they are more Western than Europe.
Swarthy_Syndicate
04-19-2021, 04:54 AM
In Western Pakistan, the culture overlaps with Iranian, plus Pakistan has indigenous Iranic ethnic groups, which is definitely West Asian. But for the most part, Pakistani culture is pretty much Northwest Indian, which is definitely South Asian.
Culturally Pakistan is literally the meeting point of Iranic and Indid cultures. The Indus River is the dividing line between the two. Non-Punjab Pakistan though I'd say has done a pretty effective job at wiping out its non-Muslim Indic influences.
Chocolate_Hound
12-24-2021, 06:25 AM
Pakistan is bridge between Iranic worlds and Indid worlds. Indus River separates the two.
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