Where can Penelope Cruz fit? Vote please!

[Sikeliot]

In most people's eyes, in real life, she is the quintessential Spaniard.

http://www.therichest.com/wp-content/uploads/Penelope-Cruz.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Penélope_Cruz_TIFF_2012.jpg
http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cruz-twice/penelope-cruz-twice-born-photo-call-04.jpg
http://photos.posh24.com/p/1262859/z/hairstyles/penelope_cruz_straight_hair.jpg
http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2012/12/51/4/192/1922398/40c6e6924a9240cd_penelopecruz.xxxlarge_2.jpg
http://www.vettri.net/gallery/celeb/penelope_cruz/Broken-Embraces-Premiere-2009-CFF/PenelopeCruz_Broken-Embraces-Premiere-2009-CFF_Vettri.Net-04.jpg

[Atlantic Islander]

1,000th thread about Penelope Cruz. It's like beating a dead horse.

[Sikeliot]

1,000th thread about Penelope Cruz. It's like beating a dead horse.

There are new users though.

[Atlantic Islander]

There are new users though.

New users from other forums in which she's also been posted many times.

Nobody ever posts photos like these:

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8304/qyaa.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/1308/lydd.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img202/2913/hrzb.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img577/237/isqw.jpg

Where the freckles that are all over her face actually show and aren't covered by pounds of makeup.

[MayDay]

I'm a new poster. Her nose looks different from one set of photos to the other. Nose job?

[Atlantic Islander]

I'm a new poster. Her nose looks different from one set of photos to the other. Nose job?

That's why smiling photos should not be used if there are plenty of non-smiling photos available, smiles change the face and distort features. Makes the nose look different, etc.

[Ataman]

She doesn't look exotic. Which of her features would you see atypical for western/southern europe?

[Smeagol]

Mediterranid.

[KidMulat]

That's why smiling photos should not be used if there are plenty of non-smiling photos available, smiles change the face and distort features. Makes the nose look different, etc.

The lighting and highlight/contour makeup in some photos make her nose look more "hooked" at times; sometimes I feel like this makeup trend more often than not masks people's uniqueness by using the same technique.

[Atlantic Islander]

The lighting and highlight/contour makeup in some photos make her nose look more "hooked" at times; sometimes I feel like this makeup trend more often than not masks people's uniqueness by using the same technique.

They also love to hide her freckles.

You are very right about hiding unique features, they do that a lot and with many different celebs.

[Sikeliot]

She doesn't look exotic. Which of her features would you see atypical for western/southern europe?

Well you didn't vote Western European options, so I'll ask you.

[Atlantic Islander]

Who looks Whiter. Bjork or Penelope Cruz (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?92217-Who-looks-Whiter-Bjork-or-Penelope-Cruz&highlight=Penelope+Cruz)
What would you guess Penelope Cruz as if you didn't know? (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?53885-What-would-you-guess-Penelope-Cruz-as-if-you-didn-t-know&highlight=Penelope+Cruz)
Classify Penelope and Monica Cruz. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?23872-Classify-Penelope-and-Monica-Cruz&highlight=Penelope+Cruz)
How typical is Penelope Cruz (and her family) for Spain? (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?25823-How-typical-is-Penelope-Cruz-%28and-her-family%29-for-Spain&highlight=Penelope+Cruz)

[StonyArabia]

She looks Levantine and it's remarkable who she looks very much like Queen Rania of Jordan who is of Palestinian origins.

[Sikeliot]

She looks Levantine and it's remarkable who she looks very much like Queen Rania of Jordan who is of Palestinian origins.

I think the same. I've said so before as well. If people on here did not know she was Spanish, they'd never guess it.

[Atlantic Islander]

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8304/qyaa.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/1308/lydd.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img202/2913/hrzb.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img577/237/isqw.jpg

[StonyArabia]

I think the same. I've said so before as well. If people on here did not know she was Spanish, they'd never guess it.

I always thought she was some kind of an Arab, if she was smaller since Arabids are small generally and more gracile she would fit in Arabia imao.

[Sikeliot]

^ She still looks Levantine to me.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I always thought she was some kind of an Arab, if she was smaller since Arabids are small generally and more gracile she would fit in Arabia imao.

She don't look arab. well sure don't look like the Arabs that I have picture in my mind.

[StonyArabia]

She don't look arab. well sure don't look like the Arabs that I have picture in my mind.

She fits in the Levant, slightly darker and smaller she would fit in Arabia as Arabids are small Meds adapted to Desert climate.

[MayDay]

That's why smiling photos should not be used if there are plenty of non-smiling photos available, smiles change the face and distort features. Makes the nose look different, etc.


The lighting and highlight/contour makeup in some photos make her nose look more "hooked" at times; sometimes I feel like this makeup trend more often than not masks people's uniqueness by using the same technique.

Your posts were helpful.

So little can do so much to change an appearance. Reality can be so easily distorted by our perception and expectations.

[Atlantic Islander]

Your posts were helpful.

So little can do so much to change an appearance. Reality can be so easily distorted by our perception and expectations.

People see what they want to see.
If you look for it, you'll find it, etc.

[Alatta]

I'm a new poster. Her nose looks different from one set of photos to the other. Nose job?

http://www.mydochub.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/02/penelope-cruz-plastic-surgery-nose-job-hollywood-walk-of-fame/

[Atlantic Islander]

http://www.mydochub.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/02/penelope-cruz-plastic-surgery-nose-job-hollywood-walk-of-fame/

Yeah, so reliable. :rolleyes:

[MayDay]

http://www.mydochub.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/02/penelope-cruz-plastic-surgery-nose-job-hollywood-walk-of-fame/

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Smeagol]

slightly darker and smaller she would fit in Arabia as Arabids are small Meds adapted to Desert climate.

True.

[Teyrn]

Penelope Cruz Sanchez is from Spain so she fits in with Spaniards.

[Maleficent]

I'd like to say that Penelope Cruz is a very beautiful woman; inside and out. She's like the modern-day Sophia Loren:

*Both were popular among American audiences
*Both hail from Southern Europe
*Both were very talented

[MayDay]

People see what they want to see.
If you look for it, you'll find it, etc.

I'm not sure if that is true. I looked for my keys. I imagine I see them on the counter, but they're not there.

A joke. I don't want to be perceived as always serious and straight laced on this forum :). But if you're offended, I'm sorry. I do not mean to degrade your observation. I agree with you.

[Maleficent]

She looks Levantine and it's remarkable who she looks very much like Queen Rania of Jordan who is of Palestinian origins.

It's just a typical coincidence where two women from very different regions of the globe happen to look very similar to each other. It doesn't necessarily mean Penelope looks Levantine, and vice versa it doesn't necessarily mean Queen Rania looks Iberian.

[afrotaino]

Mediterranid, for me she is whitermthan i thought

[Atlantic Islander]

I'm not sure if that is true. I looked for my keys. I imagine I see them on the counter, but they're not there.

A joke. I don't want to be perceived as always serious and straight laced on this forum :). But if you're offended, I'm sorry. I do not mean to degrade your observation. I agree with you.

No, no. Don't worry. It was not directed at you, rather it was in agreement with what you wrote about reality being distorted by perceptions.

[Atlantic Islander]

It's just a typical coincidence where two women from very different regions of the globe happen to look very similar to each other. It doesn't necessarily mean Penelope looks Levantine, and vice versa it doesn't necessarily mean Queen Rania looks Iberian.

Yes, this happens all the time. There's even a thread for it - something along the lines of "post celebs who look alike, but are from different backgrounds".

[Smeagol]

It's just a typical coincidence where two women from very different regions of the globe happen to look very similar to each other. It doesn't necessarily mean Penelope looks Levantine, and vice versa it doesn't necessarily mean Queen Rania looks Iberian.

But racially they are similar.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Mediterranid, for me she is whitermthan i thought

whiter than you thought? lol how is she for you whiter than you thought, she's already Mediterranean/white. what do you thought she was or look like? xD

[afrotaino]

http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8304/qyaa.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img703/1308/lydd.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img202/2913/hrzb.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img577/237/isqw.jpg

She look andalusian principally cordovan, but I thik thT she is from Madrid.

[afrotaino]

whiter than you thought? lol how is she for you whiter than you thought, she's already Mediterranean/white. what do you thought she was or look like? xD

Yeah she is white, but photos put it darker, for tht i've said it above

[Alatta]

It's just a typical coincidence where two women from very different regions of the globe happen to look very similar to each other. It doesn't necessarily mean Penelope looks Levantine, and vice versa it doesn't necessarily mean Queen Rania looks Iberian.

Frankly,Cruz looks to have more Arabid influence.Queen Rania has a straight nose.

[Atlantic Islander]

Frankly,Cruz looks to have more Arabid influence.Queen Rania has a straight nose.

You are no good at trolling. Trolling should be subtle.

[Alatta]

Atlantid+Keltic Nordic

[Maleficent]

But racially they are similar.

Of course. They both look quite Gracile Med overall.

[Maleficent]

Frankly,Cruz looks to have more Arabid influence.Queen Rania has a straight nose.

That's funny, you think Cruz is Arabid but Rania isn't. You do know Rania is Queen of an Arab country, right?! (Not that I'm saying that she or all Jordanians have Arabid influence, but still.....the irony and stupidity is beyond obvious here)

[Mark]

Nobody ever posts photos like these:

I still say you consistently post the best pics for classifications. :)

[Alatta]

That's funny, you think Cruz is Arabid but Rania isn't. You do know Rania is Queen of an Arab country, right?! (Not that I'm saying that she or all Jordanians have Arabid influence, but still.....the irony and stupidity is beyond obvious here)

They both have an amount of Arabid influence to their phenotypes,Cruz more.

[Atlantic Islander]

That's funny, you think Cruz is Arabid but Rania isn't. You do know Rania is Queen of an Arab country, right?! (Not that I'm saying that she or all Jordanians have Arabid influence, but still.....the irony and stupidity is beyond obvious here)

You know what is hilarious, is that he tried to say that Penelope had rhinoplasty when she in fact hasn't, whereas everyone knows that Princess Rania has.

[oh-nahhh]

Gracile Med.

[Atlantic Islander]

She looks Levantine and it's remarkable who she looks very much like Queen Rania of Jordan who is of Palestinian origins.

You are so right:

http://imageshack.com/a/img824/1484/q38g.jpg

[Roy]

In Europe she can pass only in Iberia in my opinion. Comparing her to people from Levant is pointless anyway.

[Alatta]

You are so right:

http://imageshack.com/a/img824/1484/q38g.jpg

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4769051311934608&pid=1.7

[Atlantic Islander]

Gracile Med.

Exactly. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Atlantic Islander]

...

Troll harder.

[Maleficent]

You know what is hilarious, is that he tried to say that Penelope had rhinoplasty when she in fact hasn't, whereas everyone knows that Princess Rania has.
Yeah.....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fJo0SiAPB4I/TYq5ht2V86I/AAAAAAAABzo/BTNah4n4YNI/s1600/QueenRaniaBeforeandAfter.jpg

^^She had a natural beauty about her before, but I still think she looks better now.....

[Atlantic Islander]

Yeah.....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fJo0SiAPB4I/TYq5ht2V86I/AAAAAAAABzo/BTNah4n4YNI/s1600/QueenRaniaBeforeandAfter.jpg

^^She had a natural beauty about her before, but I still think she looks better now.....

I agree, she was pretty before, now she's rather cookie-cutter pretty.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

LOL Somebody Voted Egypt....:pepper00:
http://www.k-international.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/walk-like-an-egyptian.jpg

[Atlantic Islander]

Yeah.....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fJo0SiAPB4I/TYq5ht2V86I/AAAAAAAABzo/BTNah4n4YNI/s1600/QueenRaniaBeforeandAfter.jpg

^^She had a natural beauty about her before, but I still think she looks better now.....

I have to add that now, with the surgeries, she looks like Mía Maestro's (https://www.google.com/search?q=M%C3%ADa+Maestro&client=firefox-a&hs=vMQ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1t7YUujbG47ooAS8wIDIBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=890) doppelganger.

[Atlantic Islander]

LOL Somebody Voted Egypt....:pepper00:
http://www.k-international.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/walk-like-an-egyptian.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

[Sikeliot]

Rania could also be taken for Latina in the US, like a Miami Cuban or something.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I have to add that now, with the surgeries, she looks like Mía Maestro's (https://www.google.com/search?q=M%C3%ADa+Maestro&client=firefox-a&hs=vMQ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1t7YUujbG47ooAS8wIDIBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=890) doppelganger.

Yes your right, I agree. she does look like her, Mía Maestro:

http://www.1920x1200.net/posts/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mia_maestro_1920_1200_jul242009.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQb650Rwh78S-UvBzEub2m2JuoCSs1loHxZbh1dTRGLvzG8_EY

Queen rania of Jordan:
http://redwinelipstick.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/716_queen_rania.jpg
http://www.thestylerebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/queen-rania-picture.jpg
She looks more like Mía Maestro than anything else who is Argentine of Italian descent.

[Empecinado]

Penelope without makeup...she looks Western Mediterranean:

http://quemedices.diezminutos.es/var/qmd/storage/images/reportajes_famosos/defectos_especiales/10-penelope/407530-1-esl-ES/10-penelope_galeria_landscape.jpg

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/celebrities_without_makeup_30.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sSgQH3XWBHI/S9bLHwpQcwI/AAAAAAAAAdw/HnmMvl_9i6M/s400/Penelope+cruz.jpg

[dude]

She could also fit in LatinAmerican middle class.

[Midori]

Southwestern Europe... possibly Greece and Italy too but she looks just Iberian to me.

[Hithaeglir]

She is just a mediterranean woman,i don't see what's so special or exotic about her.I voted all the southern euro countries.

[Hadouken]

She is just a mediterranean woman,i don't see what's so special or exotic about her.I voted all the southern euro countries.

she can also easily pass in the middle east ...only because we say that we dont take her away dont worry :lol: but truth is truth .

if nobody knew her and somebody made a classify thread about her with the title "classify this syrian woman" or something then she would be classified differently and some people would say "woouuuuw no way can she pass as european she is distinctly middle eastern looking" etc.

[Hithaeglir]

she can also easily pass in the middle east ...only because we say that we dont take her away dont worry :lol: but truth is truth .

if nobody knew her and somebody made a classify thread about her with the title "classify this syrian woman" or something then she would be classified differently and some people would say "woouuuuw no way can she pass as european she is distinctly middle eastern looking" etc.

I don't disagree that she could pass in some middle eastern countries as well.

[Eureka]

Her father is mestizo or gypsye , i think

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hola.com%2Fimagenes %2Ffamosos%2F2012062859366%2Feduardo-cruz-estado%2F0-208-161%2Fhosp-eduardo-cruz--b.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hola.com%2Ffamosos%2F20 12062859366%2Feduardo-cruz-estado%2F&h=280&w=200&tbnid=PC3nKH-Y0It1FM%3A&zoom=1&docid=sHB2oT4CzG01vM&ei=GKyQU6fyDumd7Qap9oGIDQ&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=6889&page=1&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=0CFkQrQMwDg

[Maleficent]

Where can she fit?

Southwest Europe and South-central Europe.

[The Blade]

Gracile med. Fits in Iberia, Italy, Greece, S.France.

[Hashoeva]

She can pass from Spain (Andalusia) all the way along Southern Europe to the Levant easily. If you told me she was Lebanese or Palestinian I would believe you.

[Odin]

Spain.

[liberty]

To Americans: if her name was Penny Cross and she was born and raised in the US, speaking English natively, without the accent, would she still be easily thought of as a "Latina", "Hispanic", by non-Hispanic Whites?

[Odin]

To Americans: if her name was Penny Cross and she was born and raised in the US, speaking English natively, without the accent, would she still be easily thought of as a "Latina", "Hispanic", by non-Hispanic Whites?

Sure, she is pretty exotic.

[Mortimer]

Her father is mestizo or gypsye , i think

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hola.com%2Fimagenes %2Ffamosos%2F2012062859366%2Feduardo-cruz-estado%2F0-208-161%2Fhosp-eduardo-cruz--b.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hola.com%2Ffamosos%2F20 12062859366%2Feduardo-cruz-estado%2F&h=280&w=200&tbnid=PC3nKH-Y0It1FM%3A&zoom=1&docid=sHB2oT4CzG01vM&ei=GKyQU6fyDumd7Qap9oGIDQ&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=6889&page=1&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=0CFkQrQMwDg

Someone before said gypsy but i didnt knee that Two months aho before i was told interesting that her gypsy heritage is Rarly mentioned

[Cristiano viejo]

Someone before said gypsy but i didnt knee that Two months aho before i was told interesting that her gypsy heritage is Rarly mentioned
I never knew she had Gypsy ancestry until that the user Tiétar posted about it. I searched and indeed it seems it is true :blink:


Penélope Cruz nació en una familia de Alcobendas (Madrid), formada por Eduardo Cruz, un comerciante gitano que trabajaba en un concesionario de automóviles y proveniente de Alconchel, Extremadura, y Encarnación Sánchez, una andaluza que regentaba una peluquería

http://hoycinema.abc.es/perfil-cine/penelope-cruz-509161/biografia.html

I translate in English for you: Penélope Cruz was born in a family of Alcobendas, Madrid, formed by Eduardo Cruz (her father), a Gypsy merchant who worked in a car dealership and originated from Alconchel, Extremadura, and Encarnación Sánchez (her mother), an Andalusian who ran a hairdresser.


Sure, she is pretty exotic.

No, she is not exotic, she seems a regular South European woman despite her Gypsy ancestry

http://img0.es.gtsstatic.com/famoso/penelope-cruz-sin-maquillaje_7354_w620.jpg

[Erronkari]

She doesn't look exotic. Which of her features would you see atypical for western/southern europe?

Exactly. Nothing in my humble opinion.
She looks tottaly Euro-Med.

[Tukhara]

Baskid/Gracile Med with Alpine.

[Odin]

No, she is not exotic, she seems a regular South European woman despite her Gypsy ancestry

Maybe in Iberia, but not in the US.

[liberty]

I get the feeling she falls under the same category of Ariana Grande: she's White but is possibly exotic enough that most non-Hispanic Whites will always think of her as a "Latina". Southern Euros and their descendants will sometime fall under this label, and as many have noticed, in practice, one label usually excludes the other.

[Survivor]

She can fit as a White person. That's the only thing we need to know.

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe in Iberia, but not in the US.

Is not USA where Arabs and Jews, even Middle Easterns, are seen as white? :rolleyes:

[Odin]

Is not USA where Arabs and Jews, even Middle Easterns, are seen as white?

Only on paper.

[Kamal900]

Is not USA where Arabs and Jews, even Middle Easterns, are seen as white? :rolleyes:

The Canadian census is much more accurate than it's American counterpart.

[Cristiano viejo]

The Canadian census is much more accurate than it's American counterpart.

Not very difficult...

[Newsboy]

The Canadian census is much more accurate than it's American counterpart.

From what I heard, the Canadian census classifies Arabs as simply 'Arab' while non-Arab Middle Easterners (e.g. Iranians) are 'West Asian'. They are visible minorities.

In the UK, I believe Arabs are also simply 'Arab' while non-Arab Middle Easterners (e.g. Iranians) are 'Asian'. Both separate from whites.

In the next American census, Arabs or Middle Easterners may have their own category or so I heard.

On topic, Penelope Cruz is easily pan-Med.

[Kamal900]

From what I heard, the Canadian census classifies Arabs as simply 'Arab' while non-Arab Middle Easterners (e.g. Iranians) are 'West Asian'. They are visible minorities.

In the UK, I believe Arabs are also simply 'Arab' while non-Arab Middle Easterners (e.g. Iranians) are 'Asian'. Both separate from whites.

In the next American census, Arabs or Middle Easterners may have their own category or so I heard.

Yes, and I think it's good considering that Arabs are not Whites or Europeans which can be said about other west Asiatic peoples.

[Tietar]

I never knew she had Gypsy ancestry until that the user Tiétar posted about it. I searched and indeed it seems it is true :blink:



http://hoycinema.abc.es/perfil-cine/penelope-cruz-509161/biografia.html

I translate in English for you: Penélope Cruz was born in a family of Alcobendas, Madrid, formed by Eduardo Cruz (her father), a Gypsy merchant who worked in a car dealership and originated from Alconchel, Extremadura, and Encarnación Sánchez (her mother), an Andalusian who ran a hairdresser.



No, she is not exotic, she seems a regular South European woman despite her Gypsy ancestry

http://img0.es.gtsstatic.com/famoso/penelope-cruz-sin-maquillaje_7354_w620.jpg


She looks at most 1/4 gypsy depending on tan and makeup, but her sister looks 3/4, with tanning and makeup can pass as full gypsy

http://estaticos01.elmundo.es/yodona/imagenes/2008/09/29/1222708321_extras_portadilla_0.jpg