Where in South Asian does she pass?

[GrebluBro]

Answer it in the POLL

http://www.koodal.com/cinema/gallery/actress/kajal_agarwal/kajal_agarwal_59_8112009125601321.jpg

[Shah-Jehan]

She doesn't look like one of your body part:laugh: <---read title to get joke

Anyway, probably South, Central <--typical.

[Arcadefire]

South India, Central India and East India. Looks like a Bengali chick I know.

[GrebluBro]

She doesn't look like one of your body part:laugh: <---read title to get joke

Anyway, probably South, Central <--typical.


it was a typo :laugh:

[Mortimer]

Anywhere in India but probably most typical in East India (Bengal)

[Arcadefire]

Her necklace kind of gives it away.

[GrebluBro]

South India, Central India and East India. Looks like a Bengali chick I know.

you should vote too..

[Mortimer]

Her necklace kind of gives it away.

doesnt tell me anything, i dont know about indian symbols

[GrebluBro]

South India, Central India and East India. Looks like a Bengali chick I know.




Anyway, probably South, Central <--typical.


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voted Central India


She is a PUNJABI who is an actress & upper-class/caste

80% of Indians are kinda same...not much difference..deal with it :thumbs up

[Arcadefire]

A girl with the last name "Agrawal" is Punjabi? since when?

Early life

Kajal was born in Mumbai to Vinay Aggarwal, an entrepreneur, and Suman Aggarwal, a confectioner.[2] She has a younger sister, Nisha Agarwal, who is also an actress appearing in Telugu and Tamil films.[12] She studied at St. Anne's High School, Colaba, Mumbai and Jai Hind College, Mumbai.[3] She graduated from K.C. College, Mumbai with a degree in Mass Media.[3] She started her modelling career while she was still in college.[13] She was planning on pursuing MBA in Brand Management before deciding to pursue acting.[14][15]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajal_Aggarwal

you're desperate lol

[GrebluBro]

A girl with the last name "Agrawal" is Punjabi? since when?



She is Punjabi..

http://movies.ndtv.com/bollywood/akshay-kumar-kajal-aggarwal-hit-it-off-in-punjabi-on-special-chabbis-sets-325117

Kajal is a Punjabi kudi, who lives in south Mumbai

Both Akshay Kumar and Kajal would converse in their language between shots.

[Shah-Jehan]

She is Punjabi..

http://movies.ndtv.com/bollywood/akshay-kumar-kajal-aggarwal-hit-it-off-in-punjabi-on-special-chabbis-sets-325117


Both Akshay Kumar and Kajal would converse in their language between shots.

I am probably an Englishmen then.

[Arcadefire]

Punjabi the language and ethnicity is the same thing? Since when?
Levantines speak in Arabic, as do Somalis.... are they somehow of the same ethnic group? Nice logic there.

[GrebluBro]

I am probably an Englishmen then.

Show your English face to TA.


I believe you look like this at max

http://www.voiceartistes.com/images/SubhomayMukhopadhyay.jpg

[Shah-Jehan]

Show your English face to TA.


I believe you look like this at max

http://www.voiceartistes.com/images/SubhomayMukhopadhyay.jpg

show me her Punjabi face.

[GrebluBro]

Punjabi the language and ethnicity is the same thing? Since when?
Levantines speak in Arabic, as do Somalis.... are they somehow of the same ethnic group? Nice logic there.


oh man, she is a ethnic-Punjabi from Southern Mumbai..
What is there to deny ?

Google "Kajal Agarwal punjabi" you will get obvious answers :picard2:

[Mortimer]

whats the deal here, why wouldnt she be punjabi is she too dark or too less white? i believe she is actually fair skinned for indian standards, even for punjabi standards (average to moderately light)

[Mortimer]

average pakistani punjabi women, she looks lighter and more white then them
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/Suprah/Islamabad-Womens-Team.jpg

[Arcadefire]

whats the deal here, why wouldnt she be punjabi is she too dark or too less white? i believe she is actually fair skinned for indian standards, even for punjabi standards (average to moderately light)

lol why does every thing go back to skin tone with you? She does not have Punjabi features. Any rational, objective person who has seen punjabi people in real life will tell you this.

How many punjabis have you met in real life?

[Arcadefire]

average pakistani punjabi women, she looks lighter and more white then them
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/Suprah/Islamabad-Womens-Team.jpg

She looks like none of these women from the picture.

[GrebluBro]

A girl with the last name "Agrawal" is Punjabi? since when?




show me her Punjabi face.

Her interview..

Her own words => We are Punjabis from Amritsar, though I was born and brought up in Mumbai

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-02-06/news-interviews/36765367_1_film-industry-telugu-tamil

[Mortimer]

lol why does every thing go back to skin tone with you? She does not have Punjabi features. Any rational, objective person who has seen punjabi people in real life will tell you this.

How many punjabis have you met in real life?

i met a few, on markets etc. and they are very dark people, with very exotic features (southasian/indian). she looks closer to european then punjabis

[Mortimer]

She looks like none of these women from the picture.

well she is lighter and less exotic, but i thought the thought here would be
southindian=more exotic and darker then northindian etc. so she cant be punjabi, but actually for indian standards she is light

[Arcadefire]

i met a few, on markets etc. and they are very dark people, with very exotic features (southasian/indian). she looks closer to european then punjabis
No one is claiming punjabis are white lol I love how you try to make it seem like thats what I am trying to portray. I am glad you think she looks white. Maybe you can claim her as one of your own then.

[Shah-Jehan]

average pakistani punjabi women, she looks lighter and more white then them
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f348/Suprah/Islamabad-Womens-Team.jpg
Features man, not pigmentation.

Besides, there's a blonde in that team like WTF?

[Mortimer]

No one is claiming punjabis are white lol I love how you try to make it seem like thats what I am trying to portray. I am glad you think she looks white. Maybe you can claim her as one of your own then.

she doesnt look white, but she looks like one of those lighter/more euro indians, there are way more dark and exotic indians then her. i thought the thought here would be that punjabis are the lighter more euro indians while southindians are the darker more "australoid" indians etc. i already said that she passes anywhere in india (typical indian face) and probably best in bengal, i voted bangladesh, she looks mostly eastern indian to me. i think she would pass as gypsy, as one of the slightly lighter ones

[Arcadefire]

I have noticed that Mr Swan always tries to come and rescue his friend SouthAsian.

Making it seem like I am somehow trying to push the idea that Punjabis are white , when no where in this thread or any other for that matter have I claimed that they were anything other that north Indians.

Why did you bring up the topic of skintone ? lol you seem to have insecurities there Giggalo. Just because I dont think she looks like a typical punjabi, does not mean that I am indicating that she some how is inferior or that she is "dark". Get a life.

[Shah-Jehan]

^She's not light for South Asian standards.

In Bengal, her skin tone would be dubbed Shemla <---That is medium, not dark (kala). She wouldn't be seen as Farsha (Light) <---this term is derived from "farsi/Persian" BTW.

[Mortimer]

i think she is indobrachid or indo-alpinid, with moderately light pigmentation, typical indian features (eyes etc.) she looks like one of those indo-aryan depictions from temples etc.
or which makes it in indian art

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/artimages/ra86.jpg

[Arcadefire]

ps: I am not even Punjabi to begin with for starters.

Just for kicks. i will show you a "dark skinned punjabi" with a typical punjaban features
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKdla6dEK8-kMQ7uUpnYzkdmqgiDyYC5f8oZDsXfz_XBRLelNE

Do you see the difference?

[Rambo07]

Thats a gracile indid with paleo mongolid influence, she has a pan indid look but would fit best in the North East.
She is atypical for a NW indian but that does not mean it cannot occur. Also Swan using little Pakistani kids in the shade, does not prove anything lol.

[Mortimer]

^She's not light for South Asian standards.

In Bengal, her skin tone would be dubbed Shemla <---That is medium, not dark (kala). She wouldn't be seen as Farsha (Light) <---this term is derived from "farsi/Persian" BTW.

no she is moderately light, not that light to stick extremely out or to make the extreme difference but more on the lighter spectrum, there are really indians who are much darker and most are a little bit darker, like the punjabi football team, i think that is standard indian skin colour (my mum has the same skin tone as the punjabi football team from pakistan) and my family females etc. she is lighter, she is even lighter then me and i think im a bit light for indian standards

[GrebluBro]

^She's not light for South Asian standards.

In Bengal, her skin tone would be dubbed Shemla <---That is medium, not dark (kala). She wouldn't be seen as Farsha (Light) <---this term is derived from "farsi/Persian" BTW.

Most Bengalis are dark..

Kajal is definitely light for them

[MINARDOWICZ]

She doesn't look like one of your body part:laugh: <---read title to get joke

Anyway, probably South, Central <--typical.

The question is, where does South Asian fit in HER? :o



..................OHSNAP!

[Mortimer]

ps: I am not even Punjabi to begin with for starters.

Just for kicks. i will show you a "dark skinned punjabi" with a typical punjaban features
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKdla6dEK8-kMQ7uUpnYzkdmqgiDyYC5f8oZDsXfz_XBRLelNE

Do you see the difference?

no dude thats quiete cherry picked and she isnt dark skinned, and i doubt that is the average punjabi skin tone, let alone dark for punjabi standards, i was on ratedesi and most are punjabis and they are brown, very brown (like the colour of dark leather)

here is a punjabi jatt who i had a crush on a few years ago
the black haired one
http://s4.postimg.org/uais431jh/indiangirl4.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
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out of hundreds i saw only one had lighter skin like the girl you posted and looked similar also a punjabi jatt

[Arcadefire]

The question is, where does South Asian fit in HER? :o



..................OHSNAP!

Going by this macho internet demeanor, Her skin pores probably :coffee:

[Shah-Jehan]

^That's not cherry picked at all, she is dark for Punjabi standards but, her features reflect the average Punjabi norm such as aquiline straight nose with a slight curve.

[Rambo07]

Swan thats not cherry picked, thats a very north indid and indo brachid intermediate face. Which is common in that area

[Mortimer]

^That's not cherry picked at all, she is dark for Punjabi standards but, her features reflect the average Punjabi norm such as aquiline straight nose with a slight curve.

you are delusional and insane. she is nordindid with light skin (not all norindids have that light skin) definitely not all punjabis have aquiline nose etc. because not even all europeans have that, she is idealised phenotype how punjabis wished they all looked like, and she is "dark" lol

[Mortimer]

Swan thats not cherry picked, thats a very north indid and indo brachid intermediate face. Which is common in that area

i saw enough regular indians from punjab to know she is a minority, maybe common as a minority

[Arcadefire]

Its funny how a roma who admittedly has seen "few" Punjabis in the market (yea fucking right) is arguying with 3 south asians on what the typical Punjabi looks like. Keep in mind none of us are punjabis ourselves LMAO. What do we have to gain out of "whitening" the Punjabis?

[Shah-Jehan]

you are delusional and insane. she is nordindid with light skin (not all norindids have that light skin) definitely not all punjabis have aquiline nose etc. because not even all europeans have that, she is idealised phenotype how punjabis wished they all looked like, and she is "dark" lol

I meant the one Arcadefire posted.

[Rambo07]

Have you interacted with people in the region NO
Swan Facebook stalking and joining shitty dating websites where people make up certain ethnicities to look cool does not mean shit lol.
La Vita is a better expert in this region but I am 100% she would concur with me

[Mortimer]

More Punjabi Pakistani
http://www.footballpakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Punjab-winners-of-32nd-National-Games-2012-women-football-event.jpg

http://i.dawn.com/2012/07/pakistanis-in-america-cc-670.jpg

and this is how they wish they looked like
http://www.fashiontrends.pk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Beautiful-Pakistani-Bride.jpg

[Mortimer]

Its funny how a roma who admittedly has seen "few" Punjabis in the market (yea fucking right) is arguying with 3 south asians on what the typical Punjabi looks like. Keep in mind none of us are punjabis ourselves LMAO. What do we have to gain out of "whitening" the Punjabis?

i dont know what you gain out of it, but most ethnicities whiten themselfes, there is one afghan guy who posts redheads as typical afghans etc. here and many others do too.
im sure pakistanis are brown and punjabis, brown like leather, some are lighter but most often not

[Arcadefire]

Here is a group of Punjabi girls from Toronto
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9HzSJqX1kgA/Tr2RjL0VDjI/AAAAAAAAAC8/LYekKyIJPMM/s1600/197458_157565030968489_100001449799653_330295_2981 746_n.jpg

[Shah-Jehan]

@Mrswan.
^None of us is Punjabi here, I'm part of the peoples who have suffered a lot from Punjabis historically and I am not attempting to defend them with false characteristics but, rather saying the truth.

Besides, the group photos you posted all have Punjabi facial features unlike the girl by the OP.

[Arcadefire]

Any ways going back to the original topic. The girl in the OP does not look like a typical Punjabi. Not because she is "too dark" but because her features do not look like that of a Punjabi person.

[Mortimer]

Here is a group of Punjabi girls from Toronto
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9HzSJqX1kgA/Tr2RjL0VDjI/AAAAAAAAAC8/LYekKyIJPMM/s1600/197458_157565030968489_100001449799653_330295_2981 746_n.jpg

the one in blue on the right side is european i think, she doesnt have indian features. and yes some could be light like that (olive) but on ratedesi out of hundreds of girls who were there i saw 1 who was punjabi jatt which had that skin tone and nordindid features

[Shah-Jehan]

the one in blue on the right side is european i think, she doesnt have indian features. and yes some could be light like that (olive) but on ratedesi out of hundreds of girls who were there i saw 1 who was punjabi jatt which had that skin tone and nordindid features

yeah, she is probably descended from some abducted aliens during the time of the Indus Valley civilizations:laugh:

[Arcadefire]

the one in blue on the right side is european i think, she doesnt have indian features. and yes some could be light like that (olive) but on ratedesi out of hundreds of girls who were there i saw 1 who was punjabi jatt which had that skin tone and nordindid features

You are a creepo. You asked all the girls about their ethnicity as well?
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/punjab-indian-wedding-ceremony-austin-gurdwara-sahib-austin-tx/

[Rambo07]

The girl in blue is an Asiatic Alpine type more common in Kashmir but easily occurs among upper castes in the NW region , its more far more common in Pakistan.

Swan are you having one of your Schizo episodes let us know before hand because your just rambling on.

[DeaththeKid]

She is a PUNJABI who is an actress & upper-class/caste

80% of Indians are kinda same...not much difference..deal with it :thumbs up

Why did you quote me?

[GrebluBro]

//[/IMG]


//


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Ethnic-Punjabis are just 3% of Indian population. I believe 1/3rd (mostly not upper-class/caste) of them can pass in most parts of India.

3% is a very small part of India, ignore it..

May be I should post group pictures of Madhya Pradesh, West Bengal, Bihar, Maharasthra, etc to prove most Indians do look same.

[GrebluBro]

Why did you quote me?

To invite you to this :p

[Rambo07]

Well since Germanophile IS Punjabi , I think he would be best on this topic.

[DeaththeKid]

I agree she does pass in Punjab

[Arcadefire]

here is my sister:
http://s30.postimg.org/gtpkvcoy9/421220_10201328998724977_29224993_n.jpg

Dont quote. She has features similar to that girl in the blue imo

[GrebluBro]

I agree she does pass in Punjab

Cool...so my belief is substantiated :P

[DeaththeKid]

Cool...so my belief is substantiated :P

What is your belief?

[Shah-Jehan]

Ethnic-Punjabis are just 3% of Indian population. I believe 1/3rd (mostly not upper-class/caste) of them can pass in most parts of India.

3% is a very small part of India, ignore it..

May be I should post group pictures of Madhya Pradesh, West Bengal, Bihar, Maharasthra, etc to prove most Indians do look same.
It's 45%+ of Pakistan though.

[GrebluBro]

What is your belief?

some (say 1/3rd) Punjabis do pass in Central India and some times in South India

[GrebluBro]

It's 45%+ of Pakistan though.

Fuck Pakistan..

I deal with Nationality only.

[Mortimer]

You are a creepo. You asked all the girls about their ethnicity as well?
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/punjab-indian-wedding-ceremony-austin-gurdwara-sahib-austin-tx/

ok but i dont see anything extraordinary except that the groom looks like english man or white american, the bride is normal indian with brown skin
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_181.jpg

groom
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_068.jpg
is he indian? he looks german

[GrebluBro]

this is some upper-class Punjabi wedding..
Don't take this for a typical Punjabi stuff.

That guy being Indian is out of question.




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[Shah-Jehan]

some (say 1/3rd) Punjabis do pass in Central India and some times in South India

No bro, Punjabis even see Bengalis as dark people and we are a lot lighter than South Indians where most of the people look like they came out of a coalmine.

Here, a recent parody that mocks Bengalis <---they are portrayed as black, one should know Hindi/Urdu to understand it, which I know you don't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWImXlhGTYg

[Shah-Jehan]

this is some upper-class Punjabi wedding..
Don't take this for a typical Punjabi stuff.

That guy being Indian is out of question.
he's not ethnic punjabi.

[Arcadefire]

ok but i dont see anything extraordinary except that the groom looks like english man or white american, the bride is normal indian with brown skin
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_181.jpg

groom
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_068.jpg
is he indian? he looks german

Use your brain. Do you think I tried to portray that white guy as Punjabi. I just posted that link to show you what the "average" punjabi phenotype looks like. Giggalo,dont waste my time with you lame attempts of trolling.

[Mortimer]

ok but i dont see anything extraordinary except that the groom looks like english man or white american, the bride is normal indian with brown skin
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_181.jpg

groom
http://www.biyaniphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Navreet_Alan_Biyani_Photography_068.jpg
is he indian? he looks german

so you think he is indian or not indian? he has blue eyes and cracker face, maybe he is a convert, or is he really a indian?

[DeaththeKid]

some (say 1/3rd) Punjabis do pass in Central India and some times in South India

Yes I agree there is an overlap between Punjab and other parts of India my point has always been that looks do not suddenly change but they gradually change. So for example some Punjabis will look more like Pashtuns and some will look more like Indians. Also another thing with modern Indian Punjab is that people from other parts of India move there now so I guess it will become even more mixed in the future.

[Arcadefire]

this is some upper-class Punjabi wedding..
Don't take this for a typical Punjabi stuff.

That guy being Indian is out of question.

LOL you think caste plays a huge role in differentiating the overall look? Ethnic punjabis all have similar features.

[Shah-Jehan]

LOL you think caste plays a huge role in differentiating the overall look? Ethnic punjabis all have similar features.

He didn't even properly understand the basics of the Varna until yesterday:laugh:

[Arcadefire]

so you think he is indian or not indian? he has blue eyes and cracker face, maybe he is a convert, or is he really a indian?

Did I say that he was a Punjabi? You are thick.

[Mortimer]

Yes I agree there is an overlap between Punjab and other parts of India my point has always been that looks do not suddenly change but they gradually change. So for example some Punjabis will look more like Pashtuns and some will look more like Indians. Also another thing with modern Indian Punjab is that people from other parts of India move there now so I guess it will become even more mixed in the future.

ok i agree, i still think that there is a generic indian look which most indians 70-80% fit in, and i saw many southindians who look generic indian, some look more like "southindians" (very dark indo.melanid etc.) but most indians somehow look close to eatch other

[Arcadefire]

He didn't even properly understand the basics of the Varna until yesterday:laugh:
Its an underhanded way of saying something else. I am able to read between the lines ;)

[GrebluBro]

No bro, Punjabis even see Bengalis as dark people and we are a lot lighter than South Indians where most of the people look like they came out of a coalmine.


Get rid of your inferiority complex.. nothing wrong in being dark and acknowledging it.

South India (Kerala)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AMfudpWVo3k/Uv9nAnZKxfI/AAAAAAAAEPs/kfXf_Z-dgeg/w742-h577-no/KERALA-MEN+%25281%2529.JPG


West Bengal (Bengalis in India)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qDFjHxO4lPQ/Uv9jWlSgWeI/AAAAAAAAEOE/4nKdARQz1H0/w742-h577-no/WEST+BENGAL-MEN.JPG

[Shah-Jehan]

Get rid of your inferiority complex.. nothing wrong in being dark and acknowledging it.

South India (Kerala)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AMfudpWVo3k/Uv9nAnZKxfI/AAAAAAAAEPs/kfXf_Z-dgeg/w742-h577-no/KERALA-MEN+%25281%2529.JPG


West Bengal (Bengalis in India)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qDFjHxO4lPQ/Uv9jWlSgWeI/AAAAAAAAEOE/4nKdARQz1H0/w742-h577-no/WEST+BENGAL-MEN.JPG

You mean superiority complex? Dude, it is a fuckin fact that the average South Indian is really dark.

[GrebluBro]

He didn't even properly understand the basics of the Varna until yesterday:laugh:


LOL you think caste plays a huge role in differentiating the overall look? Ethnic punjabis all have similar features.

Assholes, I follow/believe no religion/caste stuff... Plus that varna stuff is not applicable to South India..
There are only three castes in South India: Brahmin, Dalit, others...
South Indians don't follow Varna..

Guys like Rambo07 claimed that I posted low class/caste Punjabi when I post some Punjab team pictures before.

Example:

Punjab men team

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LKNhW12g89w/Uv9jRigjFgI/AAAAAAAAEM0/beXZ3NJ7nsI/w742-h577-no/PUNJAB-MEN.JPG

[Mortimer]

On omegle i saw really very dark indians, they were black skinned and had typical "dravidian" faces, but some indians were "normal indians" like this one guy who was from new delhi, he told me he is from delhi and he looked close to a pakistani i talked to, but some looked very black and dravidian

pakistani is the one with the beard, the indian from delhi the one with glasses
http://s24.postimg.org/hdmr3g57p/Omegle_screenshot_7176_jpg.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

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thats how i imagine the typical indian

[GrebluBro]

You mean superiority complex? Dude, it is a fuckin fact that the average South Indian is really dark.

Look at the palest South Asians from great Bengal/// Bengalis are pale as fuck :laugh:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qDFjHxO4lPQ/Uv9jWlSgWeI/AAAAAAAAEOE/4nKdARQz1H0/w742-h577-no/WEST+BENGAL-MEN.JPG

[Shah-Jehan]

^We should all go lookin at Omegle for typical faces.

[Arcadefire]

On omegle i saw really very dark indians, they were black skinned and had typical "dravidian" faces, but some indians were "normal indians" like this one guy who was from new delhi, he told me he is from delhi and he looked close to a pakistani i talked to, but some looked very black and dravidian

pakistani is the one with the beard, the indian from delhi the one with glasses
http://s24.postimg.org/hdmr3g57p/Omegle_screenshot_7176_jpg.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


http://s24.postimg.org/8h7dlrp7p/Omegle_screenshot_93258_jpg.jpg (http://postimage.org/)





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thats how i imagine the typical indian

Lol what does this have to do with the actual question being asked? Who is claiming that Pakistanis and Punjabis are white?

Why are you posting pictures of people you chat up with without their permission?

Neither of those guys would pass in south india. Take it from me. They do not look like SouthAsian who represents the average looking South Indian dude.

[Shah-Jehan]

Lol what does this have to do with the actual question being asked? Why is claiming that Pakistanis and Punjabis are white? Why are you posting pictures of people you chat up with without their permission? Neither of those guys would pass in south india. Take it from me. They do not look like SouthAsian who represents the average looking South Indian dude.

I agree except the last part, South Asian looks typical South Indian in features but, is a tad too light for the average phenotype of the region.

[Mortimer]

Lol what does this have to do with the actual question being asked? Why is claiming that Pakistanis and Punjabis are white? Why are you posting pictures of people you chat up with without their permission? Neither of those guys would pass in south india. Take it from me. They do not look like SouthAsian who represents the average looking South Indian dude.

i think southindia is diverse and even in northindian pictures i see some very black people, also not all southindians are black like coal (Shah Jehan Reference). @Southasian would pass in most of India in my Book and in Pakistan (except if he is whitening himself somehow but i dont think so)

[GrebluBro]

I agree except the last part, South Asian looks typical South Indian in features but, is a tad too light for the average phenotype of the region.

I look classic Indian...fuck off!

[Arcadefire]

This is the average face for South Indian. Do yall see similarities with SouthAsian?
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagesouthindian.jpg

[Mortimer]

I agree except the last part, South Asian looks typical South Indian in features but, is a tad too light for the average phenotype of the region.

well he is indid, and indid is typical everywhere in india. his features are typical indian, i dont see the difference

[Mortimer]

This is the average face for South Indian. Do yall see similarities with SouthAsian?
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagesouthindian.jpg

southasian is more gracile, but yeah that face would pass also everywhere in india, i think indo-brachid (which is most common in western india, gujurat etc.)

[Shah-Jehan]

I look classic Indian...fuck off!

yeah, I even saw your face in the Bahagavat gita
http://www.foliosociety.com/images/books/illustrations/lrg/BHG_13101314160.jpg
So classic mate.

[GrebluBro]

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[Rambo07]

yeah, I even saw your face in the Bahagavat gita
http://www.foliosociety.com/images/books/illustrations/lrg/BHG_13101314160.jpg
So classic mate.

lmao

[asingh]

I never knew Kajal Aggarwal was a Punjabi. LOL. Anyways, she looks kind of different for the typical Punjabi look. Plus she seems to be different to what the OP posted. One can never be sure with actresses / cine artists how they actually look.

You can see her many facets here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=kajal+aggarwal&newwindow=1&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=kagBU7eLH4eYrgfF2oCwCA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=744

There is so much make-up and lightning affects, no one is sure of the reality. Arguments / threads like this make no sense what so ever. Not sure, what the OP is trying to get at here.

[GrebluBro]

I never knew Kajal Aggarwal was a Punjabi. LOL. Anyways, she looks kind of different for the typical Punjabi look. Plus she seems to be different to what the OP posted. One can never be sure with actresses / cine artists how they actually look.

You can see her many facets here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=kajal+aggarwal&newwindow=1&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=kagBU7eLH4eYrgfF2oCwCA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=744

There is so much make-up and lightning affects, no one is sure of the reality. Arguments / threads like this make no sense what so ever. Not sure, what the OP is trying to get at here.


I was trying to prove most Indians are kinda same racially and skin-tone.. I reckon that would be about 80%...
Only minority Punjabis can fit in that 80%..

I wanted to see how Indian/south-Asian TA members see Kajal...Lol they commented/voted South/Central

[GrebluBro]

This is the average face for South Indian. Do yall see similarities with SouthAsian?


Average Indian
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averageindianman.jpg?w=490


Average south-Indian
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagesouthindian.jpg?w=490

Averge Bollywood
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagebollywoodactor.jpg?w=490



SouthAsian
Classic Indian :)

[asingh]

I was trying to prove most Indians are kinda same racially and skin-tone.. I reckon that would be about 80%...
Only minority Punjabis can fit in that 80%..

I wanted to see how Indian/south-Asian TA members see Kajal...Lol they commented/voted South/Central

No.

You are watering down the diversity of India. So please stop being a weirdo. Of course they come under the spectrum of "brown", but it can range from light brown---->black. There is a lot of variation in there. India is not called "sub-continent" for the heck of it. It has more variation than entire continents. There is a homogenous skin tone, but there is also a cline. Which I guess annoys you, with your North / South Agenda here, laced with Negro-phobia. Kajal A.; is an actress. She can fit many-where, and will get votes likewise. That does not qualify that India has a generic skin-tone and disqualify the variation we have.

How many states have you visited in India to say such a statement, South Asian...? I have been all over India (almost) and there is immense diversity. Punjabi's are not the "only" different looking people. And, yes, I have been to the Southern States too.

[GrebluBro]

No.

You are watering down the diversity of India. So please stop being a weirdo. Of course they come under the spectrum of "brown", but it can range from light brown---->black. There is a lot of variation in there. India is not called "sub-continent" for the heck of it. It has more variation than entire continents. There is a homogenous skin tone, but there is also a cline. Which I guess annoys you, with your North / South Agenda here, laced with Negro-phobia. Kajal A.; is an actress. She can fit many-where, and will get votes likewise. That does not qualify that India has a generic skin-tone and disqualify the variation we have.

How many states have you visited in India to say such a statement, South Asian...? I have been all over India (almost) and there is immense diversity. Punjabi's are not the "only" different looking people. And, yes, I have been to the Southern States too.


I left India totally when I was 13..
I disregard small differences between Indians, just like how Whites disregard the differences between them racially.
I don't see this happening among Indians even though most (say 80%) come under the same race (ignoring small differences).

Anyways it was my personal belief, ignore that.

[Arcadefire]

No.

You are watering down the diversity of India. So please stop being a weirdo. Of course they come under the spectrum of "brown", but it can range from light brown---->black. There is a lot of variation in there. India is not called "sub-continent" for the heck of it. It has more variation than entire continents. There is a homogenous skin tone, but there is also a cline. Which I guess annoys you, with your North / South Agenda here, laced with Negro-phobia. Kajal A.; is an actress. She can fit many-where, and will get votes likewise. That does not qualify that India has a generic skin-tone and disqualify the variation we have.

How many states have you visited in India to say such a statement, South Asian...? I have been all over India (almost) and there is immense diversity. Punjabi's are not the "only" different looking people. And, yes, I have been to the Southern States too.

This!

[Arcadefire]

Average Indian
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averageindianman.jpg?w=490


Average south-Indian
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagesouthindian.jpg?w=490

Averge Bollywood
http://pmsol3.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/averagebollywoodactor.jpg?w=490



SouthAsian


You DO look like the average south indian. LOL actually the that guy seems to have features sharper than yours.

[GrebluBro]

You DO look like the average south indian. LOL actually the that guy seems to have features sharper than yours.

:clap:

[Arcadefire]

See thisis what I find funny. You do not want to associate yourself with the average south Indian features. Tell me how your features differ from differ from the examples?

[GrebluBro]

See thisis what I find funny. You do not want to associate yourself with the average south Indian features. Tell me how your features differ from differ from the examples?

When did I say I don't associate with south-Indian features?

My features are Indian (implicitly cover south as well) :picard1:

[asingh]

I left India totally when I was 13..

Thanks for letting us know. And it shows about your knowledge of India.



I disregard small differences between Indians, just like how Whites disregard the differences between them racially.

No.

All whites do not see each other as the same, or have similar affinity. For this unique reason, it is pointless you posting on race-boards. You sound hackneyed and cluttered with thoughts which make absolutely no sense, and sound weird; of-the-bat.



I don't see this happening among Indians even though most (say 80%) come under the same race (ignoring small differences).

100% can "be" under the same race. But there are various other aspects, which makes us distinctly unique, inter. vs. intra. comparisons. Is that depth so difficult for you to fathom..? Why are you painting India with a similar brush. Honestly, I have seen this happen a lot with South Indians on race-boards. Not sure, what gets into them. :( They are just like you. Moved to the States / Europe (or were born there); studied there, but want to make India one pan-India-generic lump. It is absolutely not fair. We thrive in our diversity. All nations do..!



Anyways it was my personal belief, ignore that.
Your, wish..!

[Carbon]

Some mongoloid vibes there and very little apparent australoid admixture so potentially be northern,central or north east India. India is a very racially dispersed nation due to internal migrations after thousands of years so it is very mixed.

[Arcadefire]

When did I say I don't associate with south-Indian features?

My features are Indian (implicitly cover south as well) :picard1:

Refer to post # 99. That a sarcastic clap was it not?

[GrebluBro]

Some mongoloid vibes there and very little apparent australoid admixture so potentially be northern,central or north east India. India is a very racially dispersed nation due to internal migrations after thousands of years so it is very mixed.

You talked about me or for Indians in general?

[GrebluBro]

Refer to post # 99. That a sarcastic clap was it not?

It was meant sarcastically for that south-Indian example being sharper than me :P

[Carbon]

You talked about me or for Indians in general?

I was referring to the picture of the women for your poll and I don't even know what you look like.

[Arcadefire]

Genetically south Asians have mongol admixture. Though it may or may not show in their overall features. You have hints of weddid/Austroloid features which gives you the authentic Dravidian look.

[Carbon]

Indians are essentially a hybrid of proto-Mongoloids, Caucasoids and Australoids.

[GrebluBro]

Indians are essentially a hybrid of proto-Mongoloids, Caucasoids and Australoids.


Please let me know your opinion about my phenotype...

Pic removed

[Carbon]

Please let me know your opinion about my phenotype...

Probably in the Caucasoid part of the Indian spectrum, specifically you almost have the Iranian Caucasoid vibe.