Please classify some Albanians

[Bari]

1.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2665/altinlalasized.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6967/altinlala1360093.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2425/altin20lala20shqm.jpg

2.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3567/bp1.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3326/bpacolli.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9966/pacolli23423.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8408/pacolli120.jpg

3.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/899/rama1.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9056/38759800.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7545/edirama200962855121.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/51/8korrikrama4.jpg

4.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/611/clipimage001qx3.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4120/ilirshaqiri1sthmb.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8193/ilirshaqiri001310507bon.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9996/ilirshaqiri005b250.jpg

[Allenson]

1. Mediterranean--very dusky.

2. UP survivor. Brunnish and/or Roger Daltryoid.

3. High skulled, short faced Steppe type. He must have a horse somewhere.

4. Alpine/Borreby or something like that.

[Cail]

Very diverse! Nation-wise, i'd guess them (if i didn't knew), as

1)Arab
2)German
3)Tatar
4)Anything, i've seen this type from Britain to Ukraine.

[Laudanum]

1. Mediterranean--very dusky.

2. UP survivor. Brunnish and/or Roger Daltryoid.

3. High skulled, short faced Steppe type. He must have a horse somewhere.

4. Alpine/Borreby or something like that.

I agree with you.:thumbs up

[Absinthe]

Concerning #1, am I the only one seeing Dinarid with a capital D? :o

[Falkata]

Concerning #1, am I the only one seeing Dinarid with a capital D? :o

He looks a bit short faced for being just Dinarid, but i dont know...
He is the only one of the sample that looks a bit "exotic" to me anyway

[Bari]

As for the first individual my impression was Dinaric-Med. I don't think he would look too out of place in Southern Iberia nor Greece.

Second one UP as Allenson said.

Third i wouldn't think would look out of place in any Med country? My impression was Dinaric-Alpine mix.

Number four i would say is Balkan Borreby.

Most people are not perfect textbook examples, and can sometimes be perceived different by different people. Which is why people not always seem to agree.

[Cail]

Third i wouldn't think would look out of place in any Med country? My impression was Dinaric-Alpine mix.

He looks Asiatic/Turanoid. Tatar/Bashkir or some other sorts of Turks mb, but not Euro Med countries i think.

[Cail]

Compare the 4th guy and Ukrainian politician Janukovic -

http://just.kiev.ua/files/pictures/200911/1259068589530.jpghttp://revisor.od.ua/pics/apicturepicture12588_5359.jpg

[Bari]

How about theese?

5.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9300/duli.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4457/duli55cr2j.jpg

6.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2249/dhjetor91kurnanokerkont.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9347/fatosnano.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9347/fatosnano.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9347/fatosnano.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/660/fatosnano2004.png

7.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4840/besartberisha.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7082/b5546544.jpg

8.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9403/nikolle241413.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8725/nikollenikprelaj.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9564/nikolle20nikprelaj24234.jpg

9.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1357/erjonbogdani.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7792/bogdaniut6.jpg

[Alano]

5.looks like an very good balkanoid example, i´d would classify him as dinaric, could fit everywhere in balkan, looks bosnian to me
6. maybe some sort of alpin/dinaric
7. Dinaric with possible Cm/baltid influence
8.alpinid
9.baltid/alpinid
10.iam not sure but i´d go with pontid
7/9 could easly pass as germans/polish, some germans ask my albanian buddies, if they also was from germany..

[Alano]

1.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2665/altinlalasized.jpg

lala doesnt look albanian at all, i will bet he isnt pure blooded, maybe he have some ashakli blood(balkan egyptian)

[Sarmata]

1.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2665/altinlalasized.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6967/altinlala1360093.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2425/altin20lala20shqm.jpg

2.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3567/bp1.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3326/bpacolli.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9966/pacolli23423.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8408/pacolli120.jpg

3.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/899/rama1.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9056/38759800.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7545/edirama200962855121.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/51/8korrikrama4.jpg

4.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/611/clipimage001qx3.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4120/ilirshaqiri1sthmb.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8193/ilirshaqiri001310507bon.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9996/ilirshaqiri005b250.jpg

1) He looks exotic, northern african. Sorry Tonsor but it's sterotypical Albanian look in my mind.(However I know it's not true;)).

2) CM+Med. looks Italian to Me.

3) Interresting...maybe high skulled Alpine?

4) Baltid.

[Bari]

lala doesnt look albanian at all, i will bet he isnt pure blooded, maybe he have some ashakli blood(balkan egyptian)

- I have wondered the same thing myself if he might be Askhali. Or maybe he is just dark and have a unique look to him(the same way Igli Tare sticks out as very fair and odd looking). Until i know his maternal and paternal ancestry i don't know and won't speculate too much.

[Jarl]

1st looks Kurdish/Iranian - like Ahmadinejad

2nd looks Libian - like a blonde Kadafi

3rd looks Arabic

4th looks Russian

[Bari]

1) He looks exotic, northern african. Sorry Tonsor but it's sterotypical Albanian look in my mind.(However I know it's not true;)).

2) CM+Med. looks Italian to Me.

3) Interresting...maybe high skulled Alpine?

4) Baltid.

-
Weird you think that, because he is quite dark and odd looking for being Albanian. He might be well among the few well integrated Askhali(egyptian) or Gipsy individuals.

Like this Gipsy artist Ermal Fejzullahu:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6821/ermalikatastrof.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6539/ermalimagjup.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2297/ermalimajmun.jpg

His father:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9623/sabrifejzullahu.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9214/sabrimaxhup.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8756/sabrikatastrof.jpg

But to be honest Altin Lala migt happen to be a result of Dinaric- Med mix that gave him a odd look?


Stereotypical Albanian look? I don't know what that would be as i think we have quite much variation phenotypically.

[safinator]

Classify Igli Tare:

http://www.emozionecalcio.it/Persone/Igli-TARE/IgliTARE_2008.JPG

[GeistFaust]

Classify Igli Tare:

http://www.emozionecalcio.it/Persone/Igli-TARE/IgliTARE_2008.JPG

Pseudo Faelid look probably more in the line of West Baltic + Sub Nordic.

[safinator]

And Marija Berisha?

http://i39.tinypic.com/qybxnn.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/qx3nsj.jpg

[GeistFaust]

And Marija Berisha?

http://i39.tinypic.com/qybxnn.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/qx3nsj.jpg

Looks Pseudo Faelid but more West Baltic looking with Sub Nordic admixture.

[safinator]

Looks Pseudo Faelid but more West Baltic looking with Sub Nordic admixture.
So Tares twin:D

[GeistFaust]

1.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2665/altinlalasized.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6967/altinlala1360093.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2425/altin20lala20shqm.jpg

2.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3567/bp1.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3326/bpacolli.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9966/pacolli23423.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8408/pacolli120.jpg

3.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/899/rama1.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9056/38759800.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7545/edirama200962855121.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/51/8korrikrama4.jpg

4.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/611/clipimage001qx3.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4120/ilirshaqiri1sthmb.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8193/ilirshaqiri001310507bon.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9996/ilirshaqiri005b250.jpg

Dinaric Mediterranid + Iranid probably due to Turkish admixture
Heavily Cro Magnon
Carpathian Borreby + Iranid probably due to Turkish admixture
Carpathian Borreby/CM

[alzo zero]

I think Tare may be Noric.

[safinator]

I think Tare may be Noric.
+ CM

[Neanderthal]

1. Pontid/Dinarid.
2. Balkan Borreby.
3. Alpo-Pontid.
4. Borreby with small Pontid admix.

[King Claus]

1 dinaro med
2 gorid
3 balkan borreby
4 alpinized gorid
5 north pontid with alpine cm and dinarid
6 dinaricized balkanic borreby
7 pred norid with an cm influence and osme alpine to some extent
8 gorid
9atlanto pontid with dinaric

[justme]

non of them look albanian except ilir shaqiri.

[Krampus]

Still can't believe Rama won. :(