Classify them as a group and where can they pass

[Steve-O]

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[Iroczor]

Cape Verde i think

[Carlito's Way]

as a whole they are on average in the terceron range, they can also pass as a whole in colombia, venezuela, puerto rico, panama, some of them can also pass in mexico

1. pred black
2. tercerona
3. mulatta
4. tercerona
5. cant really tell but maybe tercerona
6. tercerona
7. octoroon
8. tercerona
9. tercerona
10. tercerona
11. mulatta or tercerona
12. quadroon

[Sikeliot]

Cape Verde i think

Some of them look very Cape Verdean, others not as much. I would actually say most of them pass in Morocco.

[Iroczor]

Some of them look very Cape Verdean, others not as much. I would actually say most of them pass in Morocco.

I thought cape verdeans also have some north african ancestry?

[Sikeliot]

Btw just saying this girl looks Sahelian/Senegambian, I can see it very clearly.

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR25.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

Btw just saying this girl looks Sahelian/Senegambian, I can see it very clearly.

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR25.jpg

she can pass in southern mexico as someone with a lot of native american ancestry, she has the nose of many indo-mestizos of that region, lips and eyes too, cant forget skin color

[Sikeliot]

she can pass in southern mexico as someone with a lot of native american ancestry, she has the nose of many indo-mestizos of that region, lips and eyes too, cant forget skin color

She looks Fulani or Mauritanian to me. I don't know how you don't see the African in her.

[Steve-O]

She looks Fulani or Mauritanian to me. I don't know how you don't see the African in her.

The African component in her is pretty diluted, I don't think what you are seeing is her "true" African component.

[Sikeliot]

The African component in her is pretty diluted, I don't think what you are seeing is her "true" African component.

I think she looks mulatta, like if you mix a Malian and a European. She also passes just fine in southern Morocco.

She's actually one of the blacker ones in the group of photos you posted. Most look between 25-40% African with only two seeming to exceed that.

[Carlito's Way]

She looks Fulani or Mauritanian to me. I don't know how you don't see the African in her.

i am just saying that there are many indo-mestizos like her in southern mexico, especially her nose which is very common among them

even Selena Quintanilla looks blacker than her
http://hdwallpapersuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/0331selena16_t607.jpg

[Sikeliot]

You cannot get her look with just European and Amerindian.

[Steve-O]

I think she looks mulatta, like if you mix a Malian and a European. She also passes just fine in southern Morocco.

She's actually one of the blacker ones in the group of photos you posted. Most look between 25-40% African with only two seeming to exceed that.

I see


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/photogalleries/africa_faces/images/primary/faces_p55.jpg
http://www.vanishingculturesphotography.com/img/s2/v4/p1051409275-3.jpg
http://quaintcurios.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Fulani-woman.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Africa/12-444-18-Fulani-Girl.jpg
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR25.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

You cannot get her look with just European and Amerindian.

well if i see it in southern mexicans than you can unless they have hidden black ancestry which wouldnt make sense because the africans who came to mexico were Angolans and not Senegambian which tells you one thing, her look comes from her triracial blood

[Sikeliot]

I see

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/photogalleries/africa_faces/images/primary/faces_p55.jpg
http://www.vanishingculturesphotography.com/img/s2/v4/p1051409275-3.jpg

Yes exactly. I think mixing one of them with a Spaniard (and yes, Fulanis were in the DR), you'd get the woman I pointed out.

[GrebluBro]

I like these girls
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR3.jpghttp://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR8.jpghttp://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/cibao/DRAR14.jpg

[Sikeliot]

well if i see it in southern mexicans than you can unless they have hidden black ancestry which wouldnt make sense because the africans who came to mexico were Angolans and not Senegambian which tells you one thing, her look comes from her triracial blood

There were Angolans in the Dominican Republic too, and Congolese. I don't see either in that one girl though.

[Carlito's Way]

There were Angolans in the Dominican Republic too, and Congolese. I don't see either in that one girl though.

i know that, but you are suggesting such look can only be created by mixing an european (spaniard) and a fulani, would make no sense in the case of mexicans because we had no fulanis and even if we did, Angolans (bantus) made up a big percentage of slaves in mexico, in order for them to keep such look, their african element would have to be a majority fulani ancestry (again impossible), i doubt DR had a large fulani population to begin with, therefor her look is not coming from a fulani but a mixture of european/nativeameican/black most likely bantu from angola


you cannot keep an african look if majority of your african ancestry were bantu, bantu genes are very strong, they would dilute so easily that fulani phenotype, why? cause broad features are always harder to dilute

[Sikeliot]

i know that, but you are suggesting such look can only be created by mixing an european (spaniard) and a fulani, would make no sense in the case of mexicans because we had no fulanis and even if we did, Angolans (bantus) made up a big percentage of slaves in mexico, in order for them to keep such look, their african element would have to be a majority fulani ancestry (again impossible), i doubt DR had a large fulani population to begin with, therefor her look is not coming from a fulani but a mixture of european/nativeameican/black most likely bantu from angola


you cannot keep an african look if majority of your african ancestry were bantu, bantu genes are very strong, they would dilute so easily that fulani phenotype, why? cause broad features are always harder to dilute

Dominicans' African ancestry comes largely from two areas; Senegal, Mali, Guinea area, and the Angola, Congo area. Based on DNA results I have seen from AncestryDNA that breaks down African genes, people will either have a significant amount of one or the other, or both.

The woman I pointed out doesn't look mestiza, in fact you can get her look without any Amerindian at all. There are Cape Verdeans identical to her who have the same familiar mix of Iberian and coastal West African.

[Steve-O]

i know that, but you are suggesting such look can only be created by mixing an european (spaniard) and a fulani, would make no sense in the case of mexicans because we had no fulanis and even if we did, Angolans (bantus) made up a big percentage of slaves in mexico, in order for them to keep such look, their african element would have to be a majority fulani ancestry (again impossible), i doubt DR had a large fulani population to begin with, therefor her look is not coming from a fulani but a mixture of european/nativeameican/black most likely bantu from angola


you cannot keep an african look if majority of your african ancestry were bantu, bantu genes are very strong, they would dilute so easily that fulani phenotype, why? cause broad features are always harder to dilute

These are all MGM's. Regardless of how big or small any African group was in the DR, it is possible hers could be a throwback pheno to her Fulani ancestry.

[Carlito's Way]

Dominicans' African ancestry comes largely from two areas; Senegal, Mali, Guinea area, and the Angola, Congo area. Based on DNA results I have seen from AncestryDNA that breaks down African genes, people will either have a significant amount of one or the other, or both.

and do they come out with a majority fulani ancestry? i dont think so, therefor you cannot suggest that girl is most of fulani ancestry, mix in a bantu with broad features with a fulani/spaniard, she/he wont come out looking like that girl



The woman I pointed out doesn't look mestiza, in fact you can get her look without any Amerindian at all.

brah, there are many mexicans in Veracruz who look south asian, so many that its not even funny, where do you think such look is coming from? obviously not from the european/native american mix, the SSA blood in them is making create that look, that is why there are also dominicans who look south asian, mixing in a black and white person wont create you that look, when a dominican looks south asian, its thanks to their triracial ancestry and nothing else



There are Cape Verdeans identical to her who have the same familiar mix of Iberian and coastal West African.

can you post them? cape verdeans dont have her noses, never seen on with her nose

[Sikeliot]

These are all MGM's. Regardless of how big or small any African group was in the DR, it is possible hers could be a throwback pheno to her Fulani ancestry.

The first African slaves in the DR were Wolof, Fulani, and Mandenka. So even if the ancestry is largely diluted, it's had the most time to make its way through the population, which is why nearly all Dominicans have at least some. So it could appear as a throwback, and I think for her it is.

[Carlito's Way]

These are all MGM's. Regardless of how big or small any African group was in the DR, it is possible hers could be a throwback pheno to her Fulani ancestry.

it could be but bantu genes are still very hard to dilute, they would have to be mixing and mixing in with fulanis for the bantu traits to wash away

[Sikeliot]

it could be but bantu genes are still very hard to dilute, they would have to be mixing and mixing in with fulanis for the bantu traits to wash away

Well I don't see much "Bantu" in most Dominicans' looks. Just compare Dominicans to Haitian mulattoes and Afram mulattoes and you see a difference.

[Steve-O]

it could be but bantu genes are still very hard to dilute, they would have to be mixing and mixing in with fulanis for the bantu traits to wash away

This is what Dominican Indians looked like. Round flat noses. Her look is not tri-racial..

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/trubble1234/media/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg.html)

[Sikeliot]

Dominican natives would have been similar to Brazilian natives, no?

[Carlito's Way]

This is what Dominican Indians looked like. Round flat noses. Her look is not tri-racial..

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/trubble1234/media/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg.html)

but there were also native americans from mexico from Michoacan and Yucatan who were send to Dominican Republic as slave workers, even Lemba from ABF has southern mexican native american roots on his mom or dad side of the family

[Carlito's Way]

Well I don't see much "Bantu" in most Dominicans' looks. Just compare Dominicans to Haitian mulattoes and Afram mulattoes and you see a difference.

i also dont see bantu on this afro-mexican of spanish, native american and angolan roots

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u427/leyva054/Reinas%20Mexicanas/529360_591333467556960_1788968311_n_zpsc1f9afba.jp g

[Steve-O]

but there were also native americans from mexico from Michoacan and Yucatan who were send to Dominican Republic as slave workers, even Lemba from ABF has southern mexican native american roots on his mom or dad side of the family

Thats too small, man. Most likely it is just her Fulani blood which was more significant.

[Sikeliot]

As much as Alex90 is not enthusiastic as I am about comparing Cape Verdeans to Dominicans, maybe since I do it so often, you find many women in this thread like her.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?120463-What-percent-of-these-Cape-Verdeans-pass-as-Dominican

[Steve-O]

Dominican natives would have been similar to Brazilian natives, no?

Yeah, you can see it on Zoe Saldaña.

http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/trubble1234/media/61ebdd0e-24dd-4c05-9495-b560f0ea1e15.jpg.html)http://esteticapolska.pl/Editor/assets/Zoe%20Saldana%202013%20MTV%20Movie%20Awards%20Cred it%20Steve%20Granitz%20@%20WireImage%20Exp%20Octob er%2015%202013.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Yeah, you can see it on Zoe Saldaña.


I don't see Amerindian in her. She looks like African American actress Bianca Lawson to me.

[Carlito's Way]

Thats too small, man. Most likely it is just her Fulani blood which was more significant.

nah it wasnt small, thousands were send out there to replace the died off tainos, it also happened to puerto rico, that is why they come out with meso-american ancestry too apart from the south american native american

[Steve-O]

I don't see Amerindian in her. She looks like African American actress Bianca Lawson to me.

Look at her eyes the way they are inverted and chinky looking. Clearly Brazilid.

[Carlito's Way]

As much as Alex90 is not enthusiastic as I am about comparing Cape Verdeans to Dominicans, maybe since I do it so often, you find many women in this thread like her.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?120463-What-percent-of-these-Cape-Verdeans-pass-as-Dominican

brah they look more like brazilians and brazilians are mostly Angolans

[Sikeliot]

Look at her eyes the way they are inverted and chinky looking. Clearly Brazilid.

IMO she is identical to her:

http://media4.onsugar.com/files/2014/01/14/968/n/1922398/b5c1cc85343b3451_thumb_temp_image10906271389737525/i/Bianca-Lawson-Interview-About-Teen-Wolf-Video.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

Look at her eyes the way they are inverted and chinky looking. Clearly Brazilid.

now that you say it, i also see it, she clearly has it