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nandabuosi
05-11-2014, 08:04 PM
Vanessa Giácomo

http://leodoleblon.zip.net/images/i230504_03.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HM7sjI_yX_w/UateeeB96EI/AAAAAAAAd00/JEA2wc6Owmw/s400/vanessa+giacomo+4.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r6dpY-irRyE/UslaWElzQ-I/AAAAAAAAKso/ESeJPzfNpSo/s1600/amor+a+vida.jpg
http://extra.globo.com/incoming/2639779-1ba-7af/w640h360-PROP/Vanessa.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2796/4391966541_10d1e495dd_o.jpg
http://entretenimento.r7.com/blogs/fabiola-reipert/files/2014/01/vanessa-giacomo-cinthya-salles-globo.jpg
http://www.tribofashion.net/img/fotos/penteados%20vanessa%20giacomo%201.jpg

Tooting Carmen
05-11-2014, 08:06 PM
90% Euro 10% Afro

nandabuosi
05-11-2014, 08:13 PM
I don't really see any black

Incal
05-11-2014, 08:16 PM
I don't really see any black

Nose, face shape and eye separation.

nandabuosi
05-11-2014, 08:16 PM
she looks part Amerindian http://sp0.fotolog.com/photo/0/19/114/dani_oliveira_do/1242756149535_f.jpg

Mark
05-11-2014, 08:21 PM
Gracile-Med + CM/Borreby influenced and Amerindian.

Steve-O
05-11-2014, 08:24 PM
Gracile Med with minor SSA. Reminds me of Michelle Rodriguez.

nandabuosi
05-11-2014, 08:30 PM
Others pictures http://ofuxico.terra.com.br/admin/smarty/templates/img_upload/2008/01/vanessa%20giacomo%20-%20333%20-%20nota%20-%2009108.jpg
http://tv.i.uol.com.br/notas/0506vanessa.jpg
http://imagem.band.com.br/f_83845.jpg

Hadouken
05-11-2014, 08:34 PM
pred. Gracile Med

I think she might be Castiza or something

I dont see SSA

tommer
05-11-2014, 08:39 PM
Alpine + minor Brazilid.

PerpetualBurn
05-11-2014, 10:08 PM
Definitely nowhere near pure European, she also looks pretty masculine to me.....

Awebo
05-12-2014, 12:06 AM
I see no black in her either.

curupira
05-12-2014, 12:14 AM
Nose, face shape and eye separation.

She is likely to have SSA African ancestry, since she is Brazilian. By genetics, and strictly speaking, the majority of Latin Americans have some SSA African ancestry too, no matter if they are from Peru, Chile or Brazil, just check 23andme and DNA studies. There are different degrees, and that's another story.

I don't think by the traits you mentioned you can tell it, otherwise one would have to say Kate Moss has and shows it too (and plenty of Europeans):

http://www.touchpuppet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kate-moss.jpg

Petry
05-12-2014, 12:29 AM
I don't see the SSA too, but since she's from Rio de Janeiro she probably has it.

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 01:36 AM
Her SSA is obvious to me but then again, I am good at spotting it. She's probably @ 20-25% SSA, no Amerindian

curupira
05-12-2014, 01:47 AM
This site explicitly mentions native american ancestry (if it is large or not, that's another question; it is likely minor IMO):


Seu rosto vem da mistura de raças – portuguesa, italiana e indígena –, que também resultou em lindos cabelos negros, olhos castanhos e pele morena.
https://meadd.com/vanessagiacomo/47452299


Her SSA is obvious to me but then again, I am good at spotting it. She's probably @ 20-25% SSA, no Amerindian

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 01:50 AM
From what I know Amerindian genes in southern Brazil don't typically exceed 10% in autosomnals. Her being from Rio makes that even more likely to be her case but who knows, maybe she's tri-racial..

curupira
05-12-2014, 01:51 AM
On average they don't, but individually there are variations. Being from Rio, it is likely small, but not 0.


From what I know Amerindian genes in southern Brazil don't typically exceed 10% in autosomnals. Her being from Rio means it is probably less but who knows, maybe she's tri-racial..

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 01:55 AM
On average they don't, but individually there are variations. Being from Rio, it is likely small, but not 0.

I know. I meant I didnt see any of it (which normally you wouldn't at those levels)

curupira
05-12-2014, 02:00 AM
I know. I meant I didnt see any of it (which normally you wouldn't at those levels)

^ With that I agree!

nandabuosi
05-12-2014, 02:21 AM
Her SSA is obvious to me but then again, I am good at spotting it. She's probably @ 20-25% SSA, no Amerindian

Her eyes look Mongoloid influence

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7I5nCXuIlps/SftbpqBC3rI/AAAAAAAAWfw/qYsIBKwGMto/s400/paraiso+16.JPG
http://tv.i.uol.com.br/notas/0506vanessa.jpg

SobieskisavedEurope
05-12-2014, 02:27 AM
Gracile Med - Berid with minor Sudanid & Brazilid influences.

Awebo
05-12-2014, 03:38 AM
There's no SSA in her pheno. Alex90 just wants to see SSA in her in an attempt to liken the Dominican Republic to Brazil.

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 03:45 AM
There's no SSA in her pheno. Alex90 just wants to see SSA in her in an attempt to liken the Dominican Republic to Brazil.

LOL, like the way you tried to claim that Mexicans and Brazilians had the exact same African component? Go elsewhere, acomplejado. You're not fooling me. :rolleyes:

Awebo
05-12-2014, 04:10 AM
LOL, like the way you tried to claim that Mexicans and Brazilians had the exact same African component? Go elsewhere, acomplejado. You're not fooling me. :rolleyes:

That's been proven. Both countries received slaves almost exclusively from Angola. You're good at making a fool of yourself anyway, so there's no need for me to try hard, really. :thumb001:

http://oldlibrary.westga.edu/~history/FacultyUpdated/vasconcellos/comparative%20slavery%20spr%2012/palmer%20africa%20in%20the%20americas.pdf

http://i.imgur.com/FcRMI.png

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/wheatveracruzcartagena2.jpg

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 04:32 AM
That's been proven. Both countries received slaves almost exclusively from Angola. You're good at making a fool of yourself anyway, so there's no need for me to try hard, really. :thumb001:

http://oldlibrary.westga.edu/~history/FacultyUpdated/vasconcellos/comparative%20slavery%20spr%2012/palmer%20africa%20in%20the%20americas.pdf

http://i.imgur.com/FcRMI.png

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/wheatveracruzcartagena2.jpg

But this study is only about Mexico's African component :picard2:

Brazil received a mixed amount of slaves from Central Africa as well like the Congo and also Nigeria... Come on complejo, get your facts straight at least

Awebo
05-12-2014, 05:29 AM
But this study is only about Mexico's African component :picard2:

Brazil received a mixed amount of slaves from Central Africa as well like the Congo and also Nigeria... Come on complejo, get your facts straight at least

Here you go changuito...


African cultural influence is extremely pronounced in Brazil. Indeed, it's almost redundant to speak of Afro-Brazilian culture since almost 90 million Brazilians share African roots. During the colonial period, African slaves from Angola, Congo and Mozambique were imported into the port of Rio de Janeiro.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/cedricmuhammad/2013/04/29/what-nikolas-kozloff-misses-in-brazils-scramble-for-africa/


In the seventeenth century, the supply of slaves came mainly from Angola and the ‘Contra Costa’ (Indian Ocean coast) of Africa. For a century and a half following the Portuguese recovery of Luanda from the Dutch in 1648, Angola provided an inexhaustible reservoir of human merchandise. During the eighteenth century, 70 per cent of the slaves shipped to Brazil were obtained in Angola
http://www.theroot.com/articles/world/2013/06/where_did_slaves_come_from_in_africa_angola_is_one _place.html


Slaves disembarked in Brazil came from various African regions. The majority of them came from the Bantu linguistic groups of West Central Africa, where today are the countries of Angola, Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
http://www.africandiasporatourism.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=254:the-african-diaspora-in-brazil-slavery-slave-trade-a-cultural-heritage&catid=93:culture-3&Itemid=134


Angola was a major source of slaves to Brazil, which was, out of the several European colonies in the Americas, the largest single importer of slaves during the Transatlantic Slave Trade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Slave_Trade). Two-thirds of those slaves in Brazil originated from the Angola/Kongo region.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola%E2%80%93Brazil_relations#cite_note-Arenas-1)

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 06:55 AM
Lol, dude, you are debunking your own self :picard2: Are you so dense?!

I quit with you complejos, you are one dumb friggin poster :p

Vullkan
05-12-2014, 10:20 AM
i think she is white with a little native american mix.

Awebo
05-12-2014, 01:38 PM
Lol, dude, you are debunking your own self :picard2: Are you so dense?!

I quit with you complejos, you are one dumb friggin poster :p
Lmao, sure kid. The sources only confirm the bulk of slaves brought to both countries were from the same stock, southern Africa (namely Angola), for the most part (unlike the Island of the Apes). You could ask Brazilians here for further sources, since it should be easier for them to find some in Portuguese which verify what you so conveniently refuse to believe. :thumb001:

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 06:48 PM
Lmao, sure kid. The sources only confirm the bulk of slaves brought to both countries were from the same stock, southern Africa (namely Angola), for the most part (unlike the Island of the Apes). You could ask Brazilians here for further sources, since it should be easier for them to find some in Portuguese which verify what you so conveniently refuse to believe. :thumb001:

This is what I've been saying all along, don't try to switch it up now, complejos. Brazillian slaves were derived from a mixture of Sub-saharan Africans, (unlike Mexicans' whom came almost entirely from Angola). You just want really bad to liken Mexico with Brazil :rolleyes:. I wouldn't have to do that for the D.R. like you claim I am doing. Dominicans and Brazillians can easily overlap :picard2:(Brazil being much less homogenous of course).

Peyrol
05-12-2014, 06:53 PM
Last pic look a bit like the venezuelan fitness model Michelle Lewin...i would say 70-80% euro, 10-20% indio and 10% black.

Awebo
05-12-2014, 08:04 PM
This is what I've been saying all along, don't try to switch it up now, complejos. Brazillian slaves were derived from a mixture of Sub-saharan Africans, (unlike Mexicans' whom came almost entirely from Angola). You just want really bad to liken Mexico with Brazil :rolleyes:. I wouldn't have to do that for the D.R. like you claim I am doing. Dominicans and Brazillians can easily overlap :picard2:(Brazil being much less homogenous of course).
Stubborn fool. You accuse me of "wanting really bad to liken Mexico with Brazil" only for stating a proven fact? Again, the SSA component in Afro-Brazilians and Afro-Mexicans is namely Angolan (the remainder being composed of mostly other southern Africans) whether you like it or not. No, you haven't "been saying that all along." :rolleyes:

On the other hand, Dominicans (no need for the "Afro-" prefix since they're a relatively homogeneous SSA-admixed nation anyway) are largely Senegambian, which, unlike Angola, is in western Africa. So if there's anyone trying to liken their country to the other here, it's you. You don't even share the same SSA component. FFS, DR doesn't even have full Europeans, much less Amerindians. :picard1:

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 08:21 PM
Stubborn fool. You accuse me of "wanting really bad to like Mexico with Brazil" only for stating a proven fact? Again, the SSA component in Afro-Brazilians and Afro-Mexicans is namely Angolan (the remainder being composed of mostly other southern Africans) whether you like it or not. No, you haven't "been saying that all along." :rolleyes:

I have been saying that Brazil's SSA is not purely Angolan like Mexico's as you were trying to make it seem.



On the other hand, Dominicans (no need for the "Afro-" prefix since its a relatively homogeneous country anyway) are largely Senegambian, which, unlike Angola, is in western Africa. So if there's anyone trying to liken their country to the other here, it's you. You don't even share the same SSA component. FFS, your country doesn't even have full Europeans, much less Amerindians. :picard1:

When have I even argued this? :confused: For your information, Dominican SSA is also a mixture of components. Including Central Africa and Senegambia.

And as I clearly already stated, Brazil is less homogenous than DR, I never argued that. And yes, as much as it may bother you, we do have full Euros in our country.

This is why I can't stand you Mexicans, you are all a bunch of hard-headed acomplejados. But this is nothing new of course. From ABF to even here, the story is always the same for you people. For the most part, a just useless nuisance. All this because I can see some SSA in this actresses' pheno :picard2:

Awebo
05-12-2014, 08:45 PM
I have been saying that Brazil's SSA is not purely Angolan like Mexico's as you were trying to make it seem.

But around 3/4's of it is Angolan, much to your dismay.


When have I even argued this? :confused: For your information, Dominican SSA is also a mixture of components. From Central Africa and Senegambia included. :picard2: Also idiot, Senegambia is in Western Africa

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Senegambia_(orthographic_projection).svg
No shit, dumbass! Reread my previous post. I said Senegambia (largest component in DR) is in western Africa, unlike the southern Africa-located Angola. :picard1:



And as I clearly already stated, Brazil is less homogenous than DR, I never argued that. And yes, as much as it may bother you, we do have full Euros in our country. As for the lack of full Amerindians, you say it as if we even cared for that. We don't.
Never have I seen a Dominican who didn't show any SSA. And considering you want to liken DR with Brazil, I thought you would care for them, since they have full and substantially Amerindian-admixed people there.

You guys are more like the strictly Euro/SSA Cape Verde (same SSA component too).


This is why I can't stand you Mexicans, you are all a bunch of hard-headed acomplejados. But this is nothing new of course. From ABF to even here, the story is always the same for you people. For the most part, a just useless nuisance. All this because I can see some SSA in this actresses' pheno :picard2:

Oh, cry me a river.

Steve-O
05-12-2014, 08:53 PM
But around 3/4's of it is Angolan, much to your dismay.

If that were true or not, it wouldn't matter to me at all.


No shit, dumbass! Reread my previous post. I said Senegambia (largest component in DR) is in western Africa, unlike the southern Africa-located Angola. :picard1:

I corrected that mistake already, you just took way to long to respond. Anywho I can see you like bending the truth. The largest SSA component is likely Cenreal African followed closely by Senegambian (it's a pretty diverse mix)


Never have I seen a Dominican who didn't show any SSA.

Well for starters, you likely live in Mexico or California where there are no Dominicans in sight. I would be surprised if you even knew more than 2 or three Dominicans. I'm not saying white Dominicans are a majority, but they are significant group. I don't know why you deny so much.


You guys are more like the strictly Euro/SSA Cape Verde

Firstly Brazil is very diverse. DR's score (although low) from 5-10% Amerindian, sometimes up to 15% with tri-racial looking Dominicans are pretty common. So I would say not really. We even average less SSA than CV.


(same SSA component too).

Can you provide a source? I'm interested.


Oh, cry me a river.

It's the truth, I'm not the only one who notices these things, brah. You tards just happen to outnumber every other group here (a European forum lolz)

Aurora
05-12-2014, 08:55 PM
She reminds me a bit of the TA member vibrant.

Smaug
05-12-2014, 08:59 PM
I see Amerindian, not Black.

Awebo
05-12-2014, 10:25 PM
babble
http://www3.uma.pt/abrehm/v1.1/docs/downloads/pdfs/Brehm_mtDNACaboVerdeCV_AHG2002.pdf

That's why Dominicans and Cape Verdeans look similar.

Cleitus
05-12-2014, 10:28 PM
80% Euro 10% Negroe 10% Amerindian

Also
05-12-2014, 10:31 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r6dpY-irRyE/UslaWElzQ-I/AAAAAAAAKso/ESeJPzfNpSo/s1600/amor+a+vida.jpg

Delight to my eyes.

michelle
05-12-2014, 10:44 PM
I think she looks a bit like Kate Mara, especially in the eyes and nose. Maybe I'm just crazy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/KateMara06.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/02/18/house-of-cards-04.jpg
http://reginadoeshair.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/house-of-cards-zoe-barnes-kate-mara-hairstyle.jpg

Awebo
05-12-2014, 10:54 PM
She also resembles this Mexican model (Pamela Burgos)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9FSmwpYRXzw/Ue4ty3U4ZNI/AAAAAAAADRk/9LkvCocNl2I/s1600/Pamela-Burgos-Fredericks-of-Hollywood-15-768x1024.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-92M_-BcqJ6s/Ue4tzSZbGkI/AAAAAAAADRw/piU-V0sV6Jg/s1600/Pamela-Burgos-Fredericks-of-Hollywood-16-768x1024.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JjD1BOQ7rtA/UeWkivMxlfI/AAAAAAAAJ7I/yCdWuAwDfIE/s1600/pame.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2RIzK.jpg

brazuca
05-13-2014, 01:06 AM
she has strong features "lagid" not "black"

Steve-O
05-13-2014, 01:44 AM
Vanessa Giácomo
http://leodoleblon.zip.net/images/i230504_03.jpg

She looks quite SSA influenced in this pic. I was really trolling when I said she had no Amerindian. She's probably Euro-tri-tracial, like the Octizos of Puerto Rico.

Steve-O
05-13-2014, 03:30 AM
She also resembles this Mexican model (Pamela Burgos)



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-92M_-BcqJ6s/Ue4tzSZbGkI/AAAAAAAADRw/piU-V0sV6Jg/s1600/Pamela-Burgos-Fredericks-of-Hollywood-16-768x1024.jpg

:puke:

Awebo
05-13-2014, 04:17 AM
:puke:

Ya quisieras que existieran dominichangas tan "asquerosamente guapas" (y sobretodo "blancas") como ella. :lol00002:

Steve-O
05-13-2014, 05:39 PM
Ya quisieras que existieran dominichangas tan "asquerosamente guapas" (y sobretodo "blancas") como ella. :lol00002:



In Santo Domingo, most people would probably guess him for a transvestite, and even amongst them, he would be considered relatively fugly :lol:

(Dominican transvestite)
http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s485/trubble1234/manor8.jpg (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/trubble1234/media/manor8.jpg.html)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-92M_-BcqJ6s/Ue4tzSZbGkI/AAAAAAAADRw/piU-V0sV6Jg/s1600/Pamela-Burgos-Fredericks-of-Hollywood-16-768x1024.jpg

:pound:

Awebo
05-13-2014, 06:18 PM
^ Quit derailing the thread with your bullshit.

Xacal
04-13-2021, 12:56 AM
Castiza, Alpine-Med + minor Amerindian

Rafael Passoni
04-13-2021, 01:38 AM
Looks mixed.

chociprasa
04-13-2021, 08:22 AM
Amazonid-Bantuid-Med mix

Zhulta
04-13-2021, 08:26 AM
Med+Lagid