Classify and Place this Pretty Spaniard girl

[alnortedelsur]

She is from the city of Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain:

http://archivoimagenes.heraldo.es/uploads/imagenes/bajacalidad/2013/12/17/_nvidia_515ac5ad.jpg

Please classify her, and where else do you think that she would pass, outside of Spain (not only in Europe, but also worldwide).

[Thrashed]

Mainly Alpinid with some CM and Baltid .. she looks kinda Slavic to me .. maybe she has and Atlantid influence

[alnortedelsur]

Mainly Alpinid with some CM and Baltid .. she looks kinda Slavic to me .. maybe she has and Atlantid influence

Baltid?? Spaniards lack of Baltic influence.

[pinguino]

Baltid?? Spaniards lack of Baltic influence.

Really? Never hear about the slave trade of women from the Baltic during Muslim Spain?

[alnortedelsur]

Really? Never hear about the slave trade of women from the Baltic during Muslim Spain?

That could be true, but the most common Northern influence in Spain, is Atlantid.

And also some degree of Alpinid influence from Central Europe (that is NOT northern European, but Central European BTW), and which although is not that big as the Atlantid influence, is many times underestimated.

[Anglojew]

(North) Atlantid and Baskid

Could pass in the UK easily.

[Mark]

Alpinized Atlantid + minor Borreby and Baskid.

[Smeagol]

Cromagno-Alpinoid + Atlantomediterranid.

[Smeagol]

That could be true, but the most common Northern influence in Spain, is Atlantid.

And also some degree of Alpinid influence from Central Europe (that is NOT northern European, but Central European BTW), and which although is not that big as the Atlantid influence, is many times underestimated.

"Atlantid" is not a Northern type, it is Southern, and a Mediterranid variant. The Alpinids in Spain are a native adaptation, not from Central Europe.

[GrebluBro]

(North) Atlantid and Baskid

Could pass in the UK easily.

Dude majority of Spanish women look kinda like her..
You shall stop assuming most Spaniard look exotic :)

[Kamal900]

A typical spanish phenotype. I would say Baskid with Atlantic admixture.

[Sikeliot]

Looks like Pippa Middleton.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01970/PippaMiddleton_1970990c.jpg
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/899524/thumbs/o-PIPPA-MIDDLETON-PHOTOS-facebook.jpg

[GrebluBro]

Looks like Pippa Middleton.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01970/PippaMiddleton_1970990c.jpg
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/899524/thumbs/o-PIPPA-MIDDLETON-PHOTOS-facebook.jpg

100 times more beautiful though..

[Newsboy]

I don't think she looks British. I don't see much resemblance with Pippa Middleton. Different eye shape, eyebrows, and nose.

OP girl looks more Spanish than anything. She might pass in the rest of Southern Europe as atypical.

[Comte Arnau]

She is from the city of Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain:

http://archivoimagenes.heraldo.es/uploads/imagenes/bajacalidad/2013/12/17/_nvidia_515ac5ad.jpg


But her two surnames are Catalan, even if Castilianized in the spelling.

She's got that Cro-Med combo which I consider Atlanto-Med, that in combination with light eyes is so typical of northern Iberia. Cute girl indeed.

[Germaniac]

North-Atlantid+Baskid and CM input.

[alnortedelsur]

"Atlantid" is not a Northern type, it is Southern, and a Mediterranid variant. The Alpinids in Spain are a native adaptation, not from Central Europe.

I think you are right regarding the "Atlantid" type, which is actually a human subtype native of the western fringes of Europe, pretty common from the Iberian Peninsula up to the British Islands, but I think that Spain and Portugal also received some input from Central Europe, through "Celtic" Indo-European people who came from Central Europe and settled in a good portion of the Iberian Peninsula.

However, ALL today's Spaniards and Portuguese, even those from areas that were never settled by Celts, have some degree of "Celtic" background, because of the population shift movements that took place before, during and after the reconquista, and because the internal migrations have always been very frequent and constant, since Spain and Portugal exist as sovereign states. That's why ALL Spaniards and Portuguese, even those from Valencia, Andalusia or Mallorca, consider themselves (in a strict racial sense) as Celtiberian. And they are right.

I think that the Berid subtype, which is almost exclusively from the Iberian Peninsula is a local native adaptation from Spain and Portugal, but there are also Alpinid propers, in Spain and Portugal.

Iberians also received a considerable Indo-European input, through the Pre-Celts, and through "Celtic" people that came from Central Europe. They are NOT exclusively Mediterranean.

[Smeagol]

Celts did not have much Alpinid influence. The Alpinization mainly has it's origin in the Middle Ages.

[alnortedelsur]

Celts did not have much Alpinid influence. The Alpinization mainly has it's origin in the Middle Ages.

Probably you are right. I admit that I am new and non-expert in the Anthropology field.:redface_002:

I am just starting to get some knowledge by visiting these kind of Anthropological Internet boards and sites like Eupedia and the likes:ranger:

I have also admitted many times that I am not very good classifying.

But can you explain me what do you know about the origin of the Alpinid traits in the Middle Ages??

What is your knowledge or your theory on that respect??

Believe me, I am not being sarcastic nor anything like that.

I am being sincere with you, and I am asking this to you in a good way, because I am willing to learn.

[Smeagol]

Basically Alpinization is an adaption to a low energy sedentary existence. So the Alpinids are reduced Cromagnids, and this Alpinization happened mainly in the Middle Ages, but also earlier in some areas, like parts of Roman era Italy. This is according to the skeletal evidence.

[Breedingvariety]

Predominantly Atlantd with some other influences.

[Styrian Mujo]

Atlantid+Baskid+maybe some CM.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Atlantid with CM and some Alpine influence + Baskid

[alnortedelsur]

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[alnortedelsur]

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[Peter Nirsch]

Atlantid-paleo atlantid

[Odin]

Atlanto-CM. Pass in SW Europe.