Dutch farmer attacked on his farm in Sweden

[The Black Prince]

A Dutch farmer was attacked this week by five masked men in Sjöbo (Skane, Sweden). The masked men attacked the farmer during the night on his farm.

His 41 year old wife was threatened on the phone. During the phone conversation the anonymous caller made gestures that they as foreigner where not welcome.

The wife was several days before appointed as manager in the regional dairy cooperation. Her husband said that the violence and intimidation has struck fear in the Dutch community of Skane. The woman has laid down her function after the incidents.

The Dutch dairyfarmer fended of the five masked attackers and had only a few scratches. Who is responsible for the crime is unsure according to the police, however it seems the incidents have a xenophobic character.


Nederlandse veehouders in Zweden mishandeld
1 mei 2010 17:11

SJÖBO - Een 43-jarige melkveehouder is de afgelopen week in zijn Zweedse woonplaats Sjöbo mishandeld door vijf gemaskerde mannen.

Zijn 41-jarige echtgenote is telefonisch bedreigd. Zweedse media bevestigen een verhaal waar Radio Nederland Wereldomroep (RNW) zaterdag over bericht.

De vrouw was enkele dagen voor de incidenten als eerste buitenlandse benoemd in het bestuur van de plaatselijke zuivelcoöperatie.

Haar echtgenoot stelde voor de Wereldomroep dat de mishandeling en de intimidatie ''als een bom'' zijn ingeslagen in de Nederlandse gemeenschap in de Zweedse provincie Skane. De vrouw heeft haar functie na de incidenten neergelegd.

Xenofoob
De melkveehouder wist zijn belagers van zich af te slaan en liep slechts enkele schrammen op. Wie verantwoordelijk is voor de mishandeling en de bedreiging, is nog niet duidelijk. Volgens de Zweedse politie zouden de incidenten een ''xenofoob karakter'' hebben.

Het echtpaar is vier jaar geleden naar Zweden geëmigreerd. Het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken laat zaterdag desgevraagd weten dat het echtpaar nog geen contact heeft gezocht met de Nederlandse ambassade in Zweden.

Source: http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2238661/nederlandse-veehouders-in-zweden-mishandeld.html

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In de provincie Skåne in Zweden is een Nederlandse veehouder mishandeld. Vijf gemaskerde mannen overvielen de 43-jarige man 's avonds op zijn boerderij. Hij raakte lichtgewond.

Zijn vrouw was daarvoor telefonisch bedreigd, waarbij de anonieme beller zich onvriendelijk over buitenlanders uitliet. Dat gebeurde enkele dagen nadat de vrouw was gekozen in het bestuur van de regionale zuivelcoöperatie.

Het was voor het eerst dat daar een buitenlander in zou komen. Als gevolg van de bedreiging en de mishandeling heeft de vrouw besloten zich terug te trekken uit de coöperatie.

Wie verantwoordelijk is voor de mishandeling en de bedreiging, is nog niet duidelijk.

Source: http://nos.nl/artikel/154399-nederlandse-boer-in-zweden-bedreigd.html

[The Lawspeaker]

Why do these damned feminine Vikings turn against their own European kin and not against the Muslim invaders that mess up their country ? :mad:

[Laudanum]

Hmpf, it's indeed quite strange to attack people of your own kin. They were probably jealous.

[Matritensis]

Really weird.

[Murphy]

These brave Swedish men are standing up for their land and people. Why do you all react negativley to this story? Is it because the foreign occupier is "white"? Is this a racialist community then? Do you all support multiculturalism and immigration as long is it's all "white"?

I am sure you would all be shouting from the roof tops with glorious joy if the farmer was a negro or whatnot.

[The Lawspeaker]

These brave Swedish men are standing up for their land and people. Why do you all react negativley to this story? Is it because the foreign occupier is "white"? Is this a racialist community then? Do you all support multiculturalism and immigration as long is it's all "white"?

I am sure you would all be shouting from the roof tops with glorious joy if the farmer was a negro or whatnot.
No. Because I notice hypocrisy here. They don't act against Muslims or black immigrants because they are too chickenshit and instead of that they turn against other Europeans. Probably because they knew because they would get away with that.

[Murphy]

No. Because I notice hypocrisy here. They don't act against Muslims or black immigrants because they are too chickenshit and instead of that they turn against other Europeans. Probably because they knew because they would get away with that.

Guess work. All we know for fact is that a group of Swedish men ahve taken up the fight against the foreigner.

You're upset that that foreigner happens to be Dutch. If you were really a preservationist, surely you would understand Swedish men fighting for a Swedish cause? Whether today it is against a Dutch farmer or tomorow a Nigerian credit-fraud.

[The Lawspeaker]

Guess work. All we know for fact is that a group of Swedish men ahve taken up the fight against the foreigner.
No they haven't. Or would you say that Swedish cities are safe again?



You're upset that that foreigner happens to be Dutch. If you were really a preservationist, surely you would understand Swedish men fighting for a Swedish cause? Whether today it is against a Dutch farmer or tomorow a Nigerian credit-fraud.
No actually I would have understood it if they would also fight against the Third World-invader.

[Laudanum]

Guess work. All we know for fact is that a group of Swedish men ahve taken up the fight against the foreigner.

I don't think threatening someone on the phone and attacking another person with masks on isn't an honest ''fight'' at all. No matter if you're Dutch or if you're from Nigeria.

Anyway, there aren't many differences between Dutch and Swedes, so yeah, I think you're pretty fucked up in the head if you attack your own kinsmen.

[Murphy]

I don't think threatening someone on the phone and attacking another person with masks on isn't an honest ''fight'' at all. No matter if you're Dutch or if you're from Nigeria.

Oh I actually do agree with you here.


Anyway, there aren't many differences between Dutch and Swedes, so yeah, I think you're pretty fucked up in the head if you attack your own kinsmen.

First you will need to explain why you're kinsmen. What do the Swedish owe the Dutch? What loyalty are they obliged to you?

[Laudanum]

Oh I actually do agree with you here.



First you will need to explain why you're kinsmen. What do the Swedish owe the Dutch? What loyalty are they obliged to you?

Well, the Dutch and the Swedes are both Germanic people. They have close ''roots'', so to speak. To me it would just be the same as attacking your own nephew, if you understand what I mean.

[Murphy]

Well, the Dutch and the Swedes are both Germanic people. They have close ''roots'', so to speak. To me it would just be the same as attacking your own nephew, if you understand what I mean.

Okay. You have common ancestry from.. what, I assume a millenia or two ago? What does the Swedish farmer in 1780 owe the Dutch people? Or the Swedish housewife in 1890? Or the Swedish youth in 2003?

You have different languages, different cultures, different religions, different politics, different histories. You are two very different peoples with a superficial similiarity in your languages.

Explain to me why you see this as an uncle-newphew relationship?

Edit: Note. I am not saying there should not be close relations between European peoples. I simply see your attempt in creating such relations as no different from other globalists and multiculturalists. In essence you are robbing both the Dutch and Swedish people of their identities when you devalue them for the purpose of creating a link between them.

[Loki]

First you will need to explain why you're kinsmen. What do the Swedish owe the Dutch? What loyalty are they obliged to you?

What would a Catholic Irishman know about Germanic kinship?

[Murphy]

What would a Catholic Irishman know about Germanic kinship?

Enough to know that the Jews dominated one half and the other half didn't care.

[Laudanum]

Okay. You have common ancestry from.. what, I assume a millenia or two ago? What does the Swedish farmer in 1780 owe the Dutch people? Or the Swedish housewife in 1890? Or the Swedish youth in 2003?

You have different languages, different cultures, different religions, different politics, different histories. You are two very different peoples with a superficial similiarity in your languages.

Explain to me why you see this as an uncle-newphew relationship?

Of course we have different politics, languages, etc. That's quite normal, as there's a sea between the two countries. I don't say Swedes owe the dutch people anything at all. I was just giving my opinion about the story.

I see the Dutch and Swedes as people coming from the same roots, which means we're connected to each other. We're distant family. That's why I think the reaction of the Swedes was pretty strange.

By the way, I do not disagree with your opinion because the guy was Dutch. I would have reacted the same way if he was German or Danish.

[Murphy]

I see the Dutch and Swedes as people coming from the same roots, which means we're connected to each other. We're distant family. That's why I think the reaction of the Swedes was pretty strange.

From your perspective. But can you truly say the Swede is wrong for not having this perspective? For wanting to preserve Sweden? Not a Germanic-ideal or a "white"-ideal. But a Swedish ideal? Against all foreigners?

[Laudanum]

From your perspective. But can you truly say the Swede is wrong for not having this perspective? For wanting to preserve Sweden? Not a Germanic-ideal or a "white"-ideal. But a Swedish ideal? Against all foreigners?

No, I do not see the Dutch as a threat to Swedish culture.

[Murphy]

No, I do not see the Dutch as a threat to Swedish culture.

But the Dutch are not Swedish.

[jerney]

These brave Swedish men are standing up for their land and people. Why do you all react negativley to this story? Is it because the foreign occupier is "white"? Is this a racialist community then? Do you all support multiculturalism and immigration as long is it's all "white"?

I am sure you would all be shouting from the roof tops with glorious joy if the farmer was a negro or whatnot.

This was my first reaction. Sure, they should probably be focusing their anger toward more the troublesome and foreign immigrants, but you still have a point.

[Matritensis]

Were those Dutch people white?

[Loki]

This was my first reaction. Sure, they should probably be focusing their anger toward more the troublesome and foreign immigrants, but you still have a point.

Attacking farmers is now considered cool and right?

And by the way, Aequoreus is just trolling. Maybe you haven't noticed.

[Laudanum]

But the Dutch are not Swedish.

I know they aren't, but like I said, we're distant family. So instead if scaring the hell out of some Dutch people, they should have focussed their anger on other people who are a bigger threat to Swedish culture.

Anyway, I'm not very sure if they did it because of the fact they were Dutch. It could very well just be an excuse because they were jealous. I wonder how they would have acted if it was a Swede that took the function...

[Loki]

Were those Dutch people white?

All Dutch people are white.

[Murphy]

Attacking farmers is now considered cool and right?

Of course not! It's only cool and right if the attacked is a porch-monkey or a sand-nigger.


And by the way, Aequoreus is just trolling. Maybe you haven't noticed.

Trolling at the Apricity is nothing new, after all.

[Loki]

Of course not! It's only cool and right if the attacked is a porch-monkey or a sand-nigger.


You said it.



Trolling at the Apricity is nothing new, after all.

Of course, how else did you attain a post count of 2,000+?

[Murphy]

I know they aren't, but like I said, we're distant family. So instead if scaring the hell out of some Dutch people, they should have focussed their anger on other people who are a bigger threat to Swedish culture.

Would you invite a third or fourth cousin, that you've never met and you know nothing about, into your home, around your children and wife.. based on the fact you have a common family member?


Anyway, I'm not very sure if they did it because of fact they were Dutch. It could very well just be an excuse because they were jealous. I wonder how they would have acted if it was a Swede that took the function...

The Swede is a Swede and not a foreigner in Sweden.

[Matritensis]

All Dutch people are white.


Yes,yes.But my question has a point.They are Dutch because they are Dutch citizens,but everybody knows that not all Dutch citizens are white...am I wrong?

[Murphy]

You said it.

Yes, we shall lynch the niggers from Brighton to Glasgow Loki!


Of course, how else did you attain a post count of 2,000+?

Well I thought it was for my articulate mind.. but I may be wrong :D!

[Laudanum]

Would you invite a third or fourth cousin, that you've never met and you know nothing about, into your home, around your children and wife.. based on the fact you have a common family member?



The Swede is a Swede and not a foreigner in Sweden.

Maybe I would. Depends on wether I like them or not. However, if I wouldn't like them, would that be a reason to beat them up?

You obviously do not understand the point I was trying to make. (or maybe you don't want to)

[jerney]

Attacking farmers is now considered cool and right?


Where did I ever imply that? I just said I can see his point. I never said attacking anyone was right, but I think it's hypocritical to say Swedes, or anyone else for that matter, should only have a problem with "non-white" immigrants.

[Loki]

Where did I ever imply that? I just said I can see his point.

"These brave Swedish men are standing up for their land and people" >> your "first reaction". :rolleyes2: I.e, beating up a farmer is now considered a brave and noble virtue. Appalling.

[jerney]

"These brave Swedish men are standing up for their land and people" >> your "first reaction". :rolleyes2: I.e, beating up a farmer is now considered a brave and noble virtue. Appalling.

I'll be honest, I didn't read his post that carefully. I don't advocate attacking anyone, what I meant was I could understand how someone could find it hypocritical that people wouldn't support a Swede being upset over "white" non-Swedish immigration.

[Laudanum]

I'll be honest, I didn't read his post that carefully. I don't advocate attacking anyone, what I meant was I could understand how someone could find it hypocritical that people wouldn't support a Swede being upset over "white" non-Swedish immigration.

It's not just ''white immigration'', it's Germanic immigration. And I think that Germanic immigration, if it isn't done on a massive scale, isn't dangerous to any of the Germanic cultures.

[Jarl]

It's not just ''white immigration'', it's Germanic immigration. And I think that Germanic immigration, if it isn't done on a massive scale, isn't dangerous to any of the Germanic cultures.

Definitely not. However, taking posession of land, particularly large plots of farming land can be a touchy issue. Particularly in areas where small family farming is prevalent, and particularly if the buyer is a foreigner. And although I believe they would prefer a Dutchman to a Nigerian, I do not think the conservative Swedish farmers are going to be persuaded by some vague Pan-Germanic arguments when facing competition from foreigners.


I sense some double standards. On one hand I'm hearing a lot about how improper it is to come and live in another country, benefit from the means it offers, accept its citizenship, or even to study there. But on the other hand, this is a clear case of taking arable land by a foreigner. Holland is a tiny country, its land is expensive, and the bulk of farming there is done by big investors. Now, this fellow obviously took the advantage of Sweden and the local conditions to his own benefit. While I understand that he is a fellow European, and a fellow Germanic - some Swedish people have spoken out. They do not seem to like the idea and why should they be fiercely criticised? If that farmer was Polish, Spanish or Greek, I am more than 100% certain ppl here would side with the local Swedes.

So whats the idea? PanGermanism - yes, but only on conditions CERTAIN ppl would prefer?

[Arne]

Why don't they damned feminine Vikings turn against their own European kin and not against the Muslim invaders that mess up their country ? :mad:

Yes,These Vikings don´t have any Knowledge as it appears.
And if he would be Northfrisian or even German would it change that much ?
I bet 100 percent not.
They are all "huns" :rolleyes2: someone said....:rolleyes2:

This is not a Criticism against Dutch/Germanics, i only want to show there would be no difference atacking one ethnic Minority Group.
It´s still hate against germanics..
And i abuse it what they done.

[Jarl]

No. Because I notice hypocrisy here. They don't act against Muslims or black immigrants because they are too chickenshit and instead of that they turn against other Europeans. Probably because they knew because they would get away with that.


The paradox is... those poor immigrants pose no threat to the Swedish farmers. They can exist on certain terms in their urban ghettos, but in vast majority they will never be able to afford farming, or even interested in taking it up. The countryside is largely a reservoir of the pure local Swedish stock. It is like that in England too. And in many European countries. Why not keep it that way?

[Loki]

The paradox is... those poor immigrants pose no threat to the Swedish farmers. They can exist on certain terms in their urban ghettos, but in vast majority they will never be able to afford farming, or even interested in taking it up. The countryside is largely a reservoir of the pure local Swedish stock. It is like that in England too. And in many European countries. Why not keep it that way?

You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill, for the sole purpose of chasing some silly little online debating point. Ask yourself: how many Dutch farmers are there in Sweden? I'd be far more concerned about the amount of Polaks in England, who are definitely more foreign and weird than the local populace, if you want to make any kind of comparison to this Dutch-Swedish situation. Or, for that matter, German settlers on traditional Slavic territory in the drang nach Osten.

[Murphy]

My, my, Loki. Quite aggressive this afternoon are we not?

[Loki]

My, my, Loki. Quite aggressive this afternoon are we not?

Hey, don't be scared (yet), I've only started to dip my feet into this debate ... something I hardly bother to do these days. You ain't seen nothin' yet! ;) :D

Read my signature and weep.

[Jarl]

You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill, for the sole purpose of chasing some silly little online debating point. Ask yourself: how many Dutch farmers are there in Sweden? I'd be far more concerned about the amount of Polaks in England, who are definitely more foreign and weird than the local populace, if you want to make any kind of comparison to this Dutch-Swedish situation. Or, for that matter, German settlers on traditional Slavic territory in the drang nach Osten.

Obviously Dutch people are culturally closer to the Swedes and no, I am by no means siding with the criminals, nor warning of some non-existent mass land-grabbing by the Dutch. All I am trying to say is that there could have been reasons for this situation and discontent, and it is not necessarily fair to launch a massive criticism against "Swedish chickenshits" etc. etc. Besides, it could have been just an ordinary burglary of the sort that can happen everywhere and to anyone, without any special anti-Dutch character. But if it was anti-Dutch, then what can one do? There are more "Polaks" in the UK and ppl are not happy about that either. Many speak out on the issue of immigration, and act in one way or another to solve it. It was not me who burgled into that house.

[Murphy]

Hey, don't be scared (yet), I've only started to dip my feet into this debate ... something I hardly bother to do these days. You ain't seen nothin' yet! ;) :D

You're too soft to be feared, Loki-san :D!

[Loki]

It was not me who burgled into that house.

You mean the one in East Anglia? Perhaps it was a relative of yours?

[Jarl]

You mean the one in East Anglia?

Which one? Nope, I meant the one in Sjöbo ;)


Perhaps it was a relative of yours?

From Skane? Who knows... :D

[RoyBatty]

Assuming the farm attackers were ethnic Swedes there must be something more to the story but only people with local knowledge will be able to clarify what is going on.

What is the typical ethnic composition of the area where the attack took place?
What is the primary economic activity in the region? Is it farming?
What percentage of farmers / landowners are foreign ie non-Swedish?
Has there been a recent influx in foreigners into the region? Etc etc

[Jarl]

Assuming the farm attackers were ethnic Swedes there must be something more to the story but only people with local knowledge will be able to clarify what is going on.

What is the typical ethnic composition of the area where the attack took place?
What is the primary economic activity in the region? Is it farming?
What percentage of farmers / landowners are foreign ie non-Swedish?
Has there been a recent influx in foreigners into the region? Etc etc

Well there clearly was something if they phoned them up and told that foreigners are not welcome.

[Bloodeagle]

The wife was several days before appointed as manager in the regional dairy cooperation.

Being that they were hired to a regional dairy cooperation, they were probably voted into the managerial position by members from the region!
The Dutch manager was probably more qualified to run this farm than any of the Swedes available locally.
If the Swedes elect to bring a foreigner aboard to help make a farm run better and more efficient, then it would seem that the attackers were thinking only of themselves and not the greater good of the dairy cooperative.

[Murphy]

Being that they were hired to a regional dairy cooperation, they were probably voted into the managerial position by members from the region!
The Dutch manager was probably more qualified to run this farm than any of the Swedes available locally.
If the Swedes elect to bring a foreigner aboard to help make a farm run better and more efficient, then it would seem that the attackers were thinking only of themselves and not the greater good of the dairy cooperative.

You of course support this regardless of race, religion and ethnicity?

[Bloodeagle]

You of course support this regardless of race, religion and ethnicity?
This is far to simplistic an approach to the issue. Take your blinders off!

If I were to want and grow commercial hothouse tomatoes in Alaska would I hire a local barley farmer to manage the operation or would I bring in a knowledgeable manager from Canada who has experience in hothouse tomatoes.

If I wanted to grow Date palms in the desert of California, perhaps I would hire an Egyptian to manage and teach the locals the tricks of the trade.

If I wanted to learn about European preservation I would consult with a Dutchman and not an American, regardless of his or her religion!

[The Lawspeaker]

This is far to simplistic an approach to the issue. Take your blinders off!

If I were to want and grow commercial hothouse tomatoes in Alaska would I hire a local barley farmer to manage the operation or would I bring in a knowledgeable manager from Canada who has experience in hothouse tomatoes.

If I wanted to grow Date palms in the desert of California, perhaps I would hire an Egyptian to manage and teach the locals the tricks of the trade.

If I wanted to learn about European preservation I would consult with a Dutchman and not an American, regardless of his or her religion!
And Dutch happen to be expert dairy farmers. It has only been our national tradition for what ? 2500 years ? The ancient Frisians were already expert dairy farmers.
But we are related kin to the Swedes. We are a Germanic brother nation.

[The Black Prince]

I posted this news in the hope it would be a good discussion, sofar it has.:D

Concerning the (troll) opinion of Aquerius: There is a large difference between immigrants from Western to Western countries and immigrants from the 3th world to Western countries. The first is usually well to high educated and has enough savings to build up something for themself in the new land, the second is usually low or not educated and wants to make a profit of immigrating to a western country (parasatizing on social welfare).

In this case this farmer sold his farm in the Netherlands and purchased a farm abroad. Not just land.. In most of Western Europe there isn't something like arable land. every sq. metre belongs to someone or some organization. The only way to purchase enough land at once with parcels situated near each other is to buy a farm.

Why he bought a farm in Sweden? I don't know. Most people I know that go abroad went to Denmark and Eastern-Germany. The reasons where it are relative easy to learn languages, the bureaucracy is not corrupt and you are still within a days ride from family members in the Netherlands. I think Sweden has the same advantages. Many young farmers also went to Canada and the US, however in those cases you have to leave family et such for a long time no see.

Now, I don't know what farm this man bought, but most likely it was a farm belonging to an elder couple with no children interested in taking over. You do know one thing, if one has enough money to buy a farm (within Western Europe dairyfarms of ca. 60ha and 600,000kg dairyquotation, including stables and house are between 2.5mln. - 5 mln. Euri) than he isn't planning to life from social welfare. Second though most farms of that size can be run by one or two persons it is still a source for work provision in the processing chain of dairy products. Third this couple was well educated and they got well integrated within Swedish society. Within the few years they farmed there they got well respected for their farming and organizing skills (by other farmers).

So, concerning the true motives behind this (cowardly) attack, I agree with Folkstorm. Somewhere someone got jealous about their succes. Perhaps it is the ex-manager, or the man of second choice, who knows?

I grew up on a Dutch dairy farm and if some Swedes want to buy a farm here I couldn't care less. Especially not if it was a hard working friendly couple with lots of new insights in farming and entrepreneurship.

[Jamt]

I am sorry but there has to be more to this story than reported, it does not make a lot of sense. As far as I know the story has only been reported in local news where the police claimed to have no suspects and saw no relation to the regional dairy cooperation, I cannot see why the ewer vigilant Swedish press would ignore this racist attack by five masked men. There is no animosity toward Dutch immigrants in Sweden but of course stranger things have happened.

[Jamt]

I remember reading about a Swedish family living in Denmark on a farm being harassed by youngsters with swastikas “Swedes go home” painted on their house a few years ago but this was something unusual that’s why it was reported and the Danish neighbors put a stop to it.

In Denmark there are quite a few Dutch who buy farms and locals has a saying that “the Dutch sleeps with their boots on” meaning they work so well that they manage to make even a small farm profitable, which is a difficult thing to do nowadays.

Dutch and Germans by properties and starts small businesses in the depopulating countryside in Bergslagen Sweden where people are happy for any economic new blood and that someone renovate and look after old houses.

[Heimmacht]

Depends what you mean by own kin, I can understand a little of the discomfort from a Swede's point of view. Tssk tssk, those pesky Dutch and their cows!

[Murphy]

So in the end, Apricity's core membership does support immigration and multiculturalism. Glad that's out in the open!

[Laudanum]

So in the end, Apricity's core membership does support immigration and multiculturalism. Glad that's out in the open!

Yeah, let's move to Nigeria, man.

[The Ripper]

Sounds very strange. Has there been a big influx of Dutch dairy farmers running natives out of business or what is the fuzz about? Sounds like a drunken prank by teenagers or something.