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Argentano
04-14-2015, 01:56 AM
would you guess similar amerindian % for this 2 brothers Lucas Matthysse and Walter Matthysse? They are from Chubut, south of Argentina

Lucas Matthysse

http://bereavision.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screen-shot-2013-07-19-at-7.52.17-PM.png

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8469/8423022887_f45de35aba_h.jpg

Walter Matthysse

http://www.foroswebgratis.com/imagenes_foros/1/5/5/6/4/615643Copia%20de%20walter%20matthysse22.jpg

http://www.notifight.com/artman2/uploads/1/mathyssePesaje1.jpg

Hadouken
04-14-2015, 01:57 AM
yes

Argentano
04-14-2015, 02:05 AM
yes

50/50 mestizos?

Hadouken
04-14-2015, 02:07 AM
50/50 mestizos?

25% or so imo no more

Argentano
04-14-2015, 02:23 AM
Both with their mother

http://piniasdelsur.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/flia-matthysse.jpg

http://suljosblog.com/suljos/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Lucas-Matthysse-and-mother.jpg

Argentano
04-14-2015, 02:25 AM
25% or so imo no more

does he have a chance against the russian?

Sikeliot
04-14-2015, 02:29 AM
First one looks much more Amerindian.

Hadouken
04-14-2015, 02:32 AM
does he have a chance against the russian?

I havent followed boxing much lately :) but I just looked up that he will face Ruslan Provodnikov ....

it will be hard for mathysse tbh.

Argentano
04-14-2015, 02:39 AM
First one looks much more Amerindian.

that was my impression too

i was asking because somebody said Lucas Matthysse was more amerindian that euro and, as he is low class from the interior provinces, i tought that could be true. But he seems to be the most amerindian looking in the family (tough the rest look clearly mixed too)

how much amerindian would you guess for both?

SupaThug
04-14-2015, 03:14 AM
Castizos IMO

Armand_Duval
04-14-2015, 03:22 AM
No, if I saw Walter on the street I wouldn't think of him as a mestizo on the other hand Lucas does strike me as a mestizo.

Argentano
04-14-2015, 03:52 AM
No, if I saw Walter on the street I wouldn't think of him as a mestizo on the other hand Lucas does strike me as a mestizo.

what euro % would you guess for walter?

lucas looks very mixed to me...his brother Walter looks kind of like sergio martinez...who looks mixed but has light skin ,green eyes, more euro features, etc..

Prisoner Of Ice
04-14-2015, 04:24 AM
Walter can almost pass as anglo. Other brother looks pure native.

Armand_Duval
04-14-2015, 04:24 AM
Walter looks at least castizo, while Lucas looks harnizo border blanced mestizo.

Argentano
04-14-2015, 04:39 AM
Walter can almost pass as anglo. Other brother looks pure native.

they are probably 50-60% euro...its not rare in argentine low class to have brothers like this..

Walter

http://piniasdelsur.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/walter.jpg

Lucas

https://rodriguezboxlaprensa.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/matthysselucas2013.jpg

Argentano
04-14-2015, 04:48 AM
Walter looks at least castizo, while Lucas looks harnizo border blanced mestizo.

in this photo with his daughter Walter looks kind of similar to Lucas right?

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/9uydT5QwlAc/maxresdefault.jpg

Gauthier
04-14-2015, 05:07 AM
they are probably 50-60% euro...its not rare in argentine low class to have brothers like this..




Lucas looks indio-mestizo. I don't think he has that much european.

Armand_Duval
04-14-2015, 05:10 AM
in this photo with his daughter Walter looks kind of similar to Lucas right?

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/9uydT5QwlAc/maxresdefault.jpg

From this angle he looks much more indio.

BirdMan
04-14-2015, 07:21 AM
TBH, I would have guessed very different percentages for each of them. Examples like these just prove how different phenotype and genotype can be, especially in places with lots of intergeneration mixing like LatAm.

Argentano
04-14-2015, 10:10 AM
bump

dawson
04-14-2015, 12:59 PM
Lucas looks more Amerindian influenced but there are other Argentine sportspeople who look way more Native than him

http://www.elsigloweb.com/uploads/editorial/2011/03/04/imagenes/96459_JUAN_MARTIN_HERNANDEZ..jpg?v=1303427851958

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1SLfGfGmM0s/S8R0XM3cz3I/AAAAAAAAKyg/XhEpn9IrPME/s400/M.R.G..jpg

Argentano
04-14-2015, 01:39 PM
Lucas looks more Amerindian influenced but there are other Argentine sportspeople who look way more Native than him

http://www.elsigloweb.com/uploads/editorial/2011/03/04/imagenes/96459_JUAN_MARTIN_HERNANDEZ..jpg?v=1303427851958

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1SLfGfGmM0s/S8R0XM3cz3I/AAAAAAAAKyg/XhEpn9IrPME/s400/M.R.G..jpg

Do you think juan hernandez looks more amerindian than lucas mastthysse?

dawson
04-14-2015, 01:48 PM
Do you think juan hernandez looks more amerindian than lucas mastthysse?

lucas matthysse (what surname is that?) reminds me

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?167875-Classify-Juan-Manuel-Leguizamón-Argentine-rugby-player

Argentano
04-14-2015, 05:09 PM
lucas matthysse (what surname is that?) reminds me

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?167875-Classify-Juan-Manuel-Leguizamón-Argentine-rugby-player

I dont know..the guy is from a province that recieved some non latin immigration..

His mother also has a weird surname

RMuller
04-14-2015, 05:31 PM
would you guess similar amerindian % for this 2 brothers Lucas Matthysse and Walter Matthysse? They are from Chubut, south of Argentina

Lucas Matthysse

http://bereavision.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screen-shot-2013-07-19-at-7.52.17-PM.png

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8469/8423022887_f45de35aba_h.jpg

Walter Matthysse

http://www.foroswebgratis.com/imagenes_foros/1/5/5/6/4/615643Copia%20de%20walter%20matthysse22.jpg

http://www.notifight.com/artman2/uploads/1/mathyssePesaje1.jpg

Lucas looks balanced mestizo his brother walter looks between harnizo-castizo.

Awebo
04-14-2015, 05:48 PM
I dont know..the guy is from a province that recieved some non latin immigration..

His mother also has a weird surname
Matthysse is a Dutch surname. An alternate (or misspelling) of Matthijsse(n).

As for the classification, Lucas looks balanced mestizo and Walter, castizo.

Argentano
04-15-2015, 01:42 AM
Lucas looks indio-mestizo. I don't think he has that much european.

what about walter?

Argentano
04-16-2015, 01:35 AM
bump

Gauthier
04-16-2015, 03:09 AM
what about walter?

Walter does look above 50% european. Besides that nose, which could just be broken, he looks caucasoid.

nicalandia
04-16-2015, 04:06 AM
50/50 mestizos?

you have no Idea what a 50/50 looks like, they look like Harnizos to me, Maidana(other accomplish boxer from Argentina) looks like a proper mestizo

Argentano
04-16-2015, 04:17 AM
you have no Idea what a 50/50 looks like, they look like Harnizos to me, Maidana(other accomplish boxer from Argentina) looks like a proper mestizo

i think maidana is more indomestizo

nicalandia
04-16-2015, 04:36 AM
i think maidana is more indomestizo

I agree, I had to check pics of him again