Do you think that American Actress Winona Ryder Could Pass as Ethnic Spanish??

[alnortedelsur]

Following the same trend as in other threads that I created about non-Iberian females who did the role of ethnic Spanish (Madona and Marisa Tomei), and another thread of two mostly ethnic Spanish Latin American actresses (one of them Cuban, and the other Mexican) who made the role of ethnic Italians (I think all those threads got deleted during the last forum shutdown), I decided to make this thread.

The American actress Winona Ryder made the role of a Chilean girl of fully (or mostly) Spanish descent on the movie "The house of the Spirits" based on book novel of the same name, written by the Chilean writer Isabel Allende.

My question is: Given that she made that role, do you think that Winona Ryder could pass as ethnic Spanish?? Thanks in advance...

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http://www.salihughesbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/936full-winona-ryder.jpg

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[alnortedelsur]

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[Xacal]

Yes

[Seth MacFarlane]

Of course she could

[crazyladybutterfly]

yes , looks basque

[LieDetector]

Yes but IMO she could pass better in Italy.

[crazyladybutterfly]

if she says she is southern italian i would believe her.

[alnortedelsur]

yes , looks basque

Basques and non-Basque Spaniards look almost the same, and there is a huge overlap between them, and with Portuguese as well.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Basques and non-Basque Spaniards looks almost the same, and there is a huge overlap between them, and with Portuguese as well.

i know but basques are less med looking and more "atlantic" looking for what i've seen on documentaries about spain

[Smitty]

Sure. I know I'd believe it.

[kiko]

Yes.

She even played a Criolla in the movie House of the Spirits.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes.

She even played a Criolla in the movie House of the Spirits.

Yeah, she played the role of a Chilean criolla of Spanish descent.

[Cristiano viejo]

She is juden, so no.

[alnortedelsur]

She is juden, so no.

Is she?? I didn't know she was Jewish.

But I think it doesn't matter. Many Ashkenazim Jews can pass as full Europeans, because they're very Euro admixed. Mila Kunis, to put an example, is Jewish, and she looks full Euro, and looks very Ukrainian, IMO

[Cristiano viejo]

Is she?? I didn't know she was Jewish.

But I think it doesn't matter. Many Ashkenazim Jews can pass as full Europeans, because they're very Euro admixed. Mila Kunis, to put an example, is Jewish, and she looks full Euro, and looks very Ukrainian, IMO

I dont think Kunis is the best example of a Jewish person with a full Euro look...

[alnortedelsur]

Poll added :)

[Seth MacFarlane]

Is she?? I didn't know she was Jewish.

But I think it doesn't matter. Many Ashkenazim Jews can pass as full Europeans, because they're very Euro admixed. Mila Kunis, to put an example, is Jewish, and she looks full Euro, and looks very Ukrainian, IMO

Ignore him , he is a biased troll who hates jews and italians and many others

[Aëlwenn]

Yes she can.

[Cristiano viejo]

Ignore him , he is a biased troll who hates jews and italians and many others

:patpat:

[Danaan]

Her father is partly Russian Jew partly Romanian Jew. Her mother's original surname exists in Germany, Belgium, France. For me, she would pass as ethnic French.
I voted for the third option in this particular poll.

[EL_BARBARO]

I don't know, but I loved her.

Still more when I've heard she was a kleptomaniac.

[Hadouken]

:amour101:

[EL_BARBARO]

:amour101:


She's mine

Don't look at her!

:P

[Aëlwenn]

Her father is partly Russian Jew partly Romanian Jew. Her mother's original surname exists in Germany, Belgium, France. For me, she would pass as ethnic French.
I voted for the third option in this particular poll.

Maybe in Southwest france but generally speaking, not really french.
Better in Spain.

[Enflamme]

For me : she can pass in France. Atlanto-Med/Atlantid for me.

[EL_BARBARO]

She can pass in France too, like Juliette Binoche

[Balmung]

Is she?? I didn't know she was Jewish.

But I think it doesn't matter. Many Ashkenazim Jews can pass as full Europeans, because they're very Euro admixed. Mila Kunis, to put an example, is Jewish, and she looks full Euro, and looks very Ukrainian, IMO

Ashkenazi & Belgian.

[Aëlwenn]

She can pass in France too, like Juliette Binoche

Juliette Binoche look more in the Atlantid Spectrum, western side.

Winona Ryder are more in Iberian spectrum.

Maybe she can pass in french basque country, but clearly not everywhere.

[EL_BARBARO]

Juliette Binoche look more in the Atlantid Spectrum, western side.

Winona Ryder are more in Iberian spectrum.

Maybe she can pass in french basque country, but clearly not everywhere.


moi je m'en fous.

[Aëlwenn]

Pourquoi tu continue à me répondre si tu t'en moque?

[EL_BARBARO]

Pourquoi tu continue à me répondre si tu t'en moque?


Moi je me moque pas, tu es trompée. Seulement la chose que j'a dit: je m'en fous sur n'importe quoi tu dissses.

D'accord? Compris?

[Aëlwenn]

The next time you want to speak French, at least try to translate correctly.

Now stop off topic, thx.

[EL_BARBARO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQVw58aDt3Y

[Enflamme]

The next time you want to speak French, at least try to translate correctly.

Now stop off topic, thx.

:3 So cute!

[EL_BARBARO]

The next time you want to speak French, at least try to translate correctly.

Now stop off topic, thx.


hahahahahahahahaha

ta gueule! :D

[Tobi]

Is, she can. Would be typical.

[Tobi]

She is juden, so no.

I did knew that. I've gloogled and she is only half jewish.

[Cristiano viejo]

I did knew that. I've gloogled and she is only half jewish.

Half Jewish means 100% Jewish. Even 1% does.

[Kamal900]

Half Jewish means 100% Jewish. Even 1% does.

Most of the diaspora Jews are mongrels, but they place their priorities to their beloved homeland in the desert above their host nations. I'd say deport them back to their homeland(Israel) along with the rest of the non-European immigrants back to their respective countries.

[Tobi]

Half Jewish means 100% Jewish. Even 1% does.

I know that you still love me like a son. :)

[alnortedelsur]

As an observation: among the actors and actresses on that film "The House of The Spirits", with the exception of Winona Ryder (who might pass as ethnic Spanish) and Antonio Banderas (for obvious reasons), the other people (who also played the role of fully or mostly Spanish descent Chilean criollos, all members of the same family) would not pass as ethnic Spanish (either from Spain or from Latin America). Not even in jest.

Omar Sharif is Egyptian and is too swarthy and Northern African looking to pass as ethnic Spanish.

Meryl Streep is too hooked nosed Jewish looking, and with some too Nordic traits mixed in, to pass as a Spanish descent Chilean Criolla.

And Gleen Close is too Nordic to pass as fully (or mostly) Spanish descent Chilean criolla.

As a funny note, Antonio Banderas made the role of a Chilean mestizo, being himself a fully ethnic Spaniard from Spain, lol

[meninodeengenho]

As an observation: among the actors and actresses on that film "The House of The Spirits", with the exception of Winona Ryder (who might pass as ethnic Spanish) and Antonio Banderas (for obvious reasons), the other people (who also played the role of fully or mostly Spanish descent Chilean criollos, all members of the same family) would not pass as ethnic Spanish (either from Spain or from Latin America). Not even in jest.

Omar Sharif is Egyptian and is too swarthy and Northern African looking to pass as ethnic Spanish.

Meryl Streep is too hooked nosed Jewish looking, and with some too Nordic traits mixed in, to pass as a Spanish descent Chilean Criolla.

And Gleen Close is too Nordic to pass as fully (or mostly) Spanish descent Chilean criolla.

As a funny note, Antonio Banderas made the role of a Chilean mestizo, being himself a fully ethnic Spaniard from Spain, lol

Well, American producers from Holywood are not the brightest people in the World.
And I think Winona Ryder can pass as ethnic Spanish.

[alnortedelsur]

Well, American producers from Holywood are not the brightest people in the World.
And I think Winona Ryder can pass as ethnic Spanish.

Yes, I think she could, but not Omar Sharif, Meryl Streep, and let alone Gleen Close.

[alnortedelsur]

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[Oneeye]

wasn't she the one busted shoplifting? xD

[alnortedelsur]

wasn't she the one busted shoplifting? xD

Yeah, I think so.

Please vote...

[Wanderer]

I'd definitely say yes.

[alnortedelsur]

As an observation: among the actors and actresses on that film "The House of The Spirits", with the exception of Winona Ryder (who might pass as ethnic Spanish) and Antonio Banderas (for obvious reasons), the other people (who also played the role of fully or mostly Spanish descent Chilean criollos, all members of the same family) would not pass as ethnic Spanish (either from Spain or from Latin America). Not even in jest.

Omar Sharif is Egyptian and is too swarthy and Northern African looking to pass as ethnic Spanish.

Meryl Streep is too hooked nosed Jewish looking, and with some too Nordic traits mixed in, to pass as a Spanish descent Chilean Criolla.

And Gleen Close is too Nordic to pass as fully (or mostly) Spanish descent Chilean criolla.

As a funny note, Antonio Banderas made the role of a Chilean mestizo, being himself a fully ethnic Spaniard from Spain, lol

I made a mistake: I watched that movie years ago, and mistakenly said that the actor who made the role of Esteban Trueba was Omar Sharif, when it actually was the American actor Jeremy Irons. My bad :p

I'm not sure if Jeremy Irons could pass as ethnic Spaniard. Maybe as atypical, but that's off topic to this thread, that is about Wynona Ryder.

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[alnortedelsur]

Well, American producers from Holywood are not the brightest people in the World.
And I think Winona Ryder can pass as ethnic Spanish.

Well, at least this time, they put white people, and they didn't put Indians (from India), gypsies, Latin American mestizos, or Caribbean triracial Hispanics to play the role of Spanish descent Chileans :lol:

[Oneeye]

I profit of this thread to make an off-topic by doing my publicity.

Hello. My name is Robert. I am looking for a woman

1. Very feminine (avoid the style and behavior worthy of a lesbian, it makes me want to vomit through my anal orifice);

2. A purely heterosexual woman. Not "predominantly heterosexual", but purely heterosexual;

3. I do not want an authoritarian woman (horrible);

4. She should also wear, if possible, a traditional outfit (wear a beautiful 19th century dress, for example or other more "traditional"). She must also avoid too much make-up (I abhor all the faces of women too make-up); A light makeup does not bother me (this is my limit);

5. I do not want an extra-European woman (Asian, Negro, etc.), I want a woman with brown hair (light or not) and brown eyes (dark, medium light or hazel, whatever), with a half tanned skin (but not a fake ; i want a natural color... but if the woman has a pale or tanned (not half) skin, this is not a problem). I do not want an extremely square jaw... a rounded jaw (or a little) would be more correct;

6. Not feminist (ie a woman who is ideologically opposed to feminism and does not need to be a fierce anti-feminist militant: it is enough to have behavior, values, a way of speaking, etc. not feminist, that's enough sufficient to indicates that the person is not feminist, because generally one can detect whether a person is feminist or not by looking at these first three main points).

Thanks

Sensually yours.

Robert.


PS: some example (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?15966-Enflamme)

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http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/39600000/Traditional-Albanian-Costumes-traditional-clothing-of-albanians-39619579-636-960.jpg
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/39600000/Traditional-Albanian-Costumes-traditional-clothing-of-albanians-39619577-636-960.jpg


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[alnortedelsur]

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[JohnSmith]

Yes, why not.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes, why not.

Thanks, please vote.

[alnortedelsur]

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[FilhoV]

Depends on the photo.

[Hadouken]

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/realitystyle.gif

http://up.picr.de/30169093gu.jpg

http://up.picr.de/30169094dk.jpg

http://up.picr.de/30169095xo.jpg

http://up.picr.de/30169096sr.jpg

[Melki]

Basques and non-Basque Spaniards look almost the same, and there is a huge overlap between them, and with Portuguese as well.

Basques also live in France and look a lot like Gascons too.

[alnortedelsur]

Basques also live in France and look a lot like Gascons too.

There is a HUGE overlap between southern French and Spaniards.

[Odin]

Yup.

[de Burgh II]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Mienp71gBRfCE/giphy.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Mienp71gBRfCE/giphy.jpg

Vote please.

[Neogranadino]

Yes IMO, but I'm not an expert.

[alnortedelsur]

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[Latinus]

Yep.

[Valwar]

Yes, she can.

[Regnera]

Northern and Central Spanish:Yes
Southern Spanish:No

[Roflmao]

Yes, as a descendant of sephardi jew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winona_Ryder

"Her father is Jewish (his family emigrated from Russia and Romania),[13][14] and Ryder has described herself as Jewish.[15] Most of her family on his side were killed in the Holocaust.[15][16] Her father's family was originally named "Tomchin" but took the surname "Horowitz" when they immigrated to the United States"

[gıulıoımpa]

Yes, imo

[calxpal]

I'd say yes for sure, but I think she looks more French or maybe Italian than Spanish.

[MysteriousWays]

Yes, but not necessarily first guess.

[MobyD]

She looks more French or British Isles IMO

[alnortedelsur]

Northern and Central Spanish:Yes
Southern Spanish:No

Northern and southern Spanish are not that different as many people think. There are plenty of lighter (including pan-European people) and darker types in both northern and southern Spain.