View Full Version : Main types in these Turkish mayors from Southern Bulgaria
pelikarski
11-04-2016, 09:39 AM
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https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Erden_Kmet_1072.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Ganime_Kmet_1017.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2_Shendoan_0991.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4_Erai_0988.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/5_Zinel_1003.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/6%E2%80%93Vijdan_1196.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/9_Aiten_1070.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/10_Tugai_1276.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/15_Usein_Kmet_1050.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/11_Asan_1477.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/12_Ilhan_1208.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/7_Alil_1016.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/8_Ali_0996.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/14_Alper_1012.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/13_Sherif_1009.jpg
Hungarian_master
11-04-2016, 10:29 AM
They don't look different from the Bulgarians.
pelikarski
11-04-2016, 10:58 AM
They don't look different from the Bulgarians.
Main types? They look a bit a different for me
Linebacker
11-04-2016, 11:09 AM
Bulgarians in denial?
Hungarian_master
11-04-2016, 11:21 AM
Main types? They look a bit a different for me
Pontid, Gorid, Balkan Borreby, Dinarid and maybe Anatolid influences.
Danishmend
11-04-2016, 11:55 AM
The Turkish identity in Balkans is a result of population transfers of the Ottoman Empire
http://i.hizliresim.com/BZ8PW9.png
This is how their autosomal DNA results look - snowball effect
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.72
2 East_Med 20.99
3 North_Atlantic 16.54
4 West_Asian 16.37
5 West_Med 14.22
6 Siberian 3.98
7 East_Asian 3.28
8 Red_Sea 2.13
9 Amerindian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.25
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.01
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Nogay @ 3.7
2 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Turkmen @ 3.85
3 81% Bulgarian + 19% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.62
4 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Uzbeki @ 4.68
5 58% Moldavian + 42% Turkish @ 4.73
6 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Tatar @ 4.76
7 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Hazara @ 4.82
8 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.85
9 69.6% Central_Greek + 30.4% Chuvash @ 4.9
10 53% Croatian + 47% Turkish
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.96
2 North_European 28.02
3 Atlantic_Med 20.97
4 Gedrosia 7.3
5 Southwest_Asian 6.08
6 Siberian 3.17
7 East_Asian 3.11
8 Southeast_Asian 1.25
9 Northwest_African 0.82
10 South_Asian
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
2 78.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.48
3 51.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.69
4 76.3% Romanians (Behar) + 23.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.9
5 53.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.5% Turks (Behar) @ 4.13
6 85.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.15
7 60.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.27
8 53.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.9% German (Dodecad) @ 4.29
9 78.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.29
10 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Uzbeks (Behar)
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# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 29.65
2 Caucasian 28.73
3 Mediterranean 18.84
4 Baloch 8.75
5 SW-Asian 5.68
6 NE-Asian 3.49
7 Siberian 3.26
8 S-Indian 0.77
9 SE-Asian 0.62
10 Beringian 0.13
11 American 0.09
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 43.7% hungarian (behar) @ 1.92
2 57.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 42.4% slovenian (xing) @ 2.07
3 77.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 22.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.26
4 71.7% romanian-a (behar) + 28.3% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.57
5 67.3% romanian-a (behar) + 32.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.74
6 73.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 26.4% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.07
7 77.3% romanian-a (behar) + 22.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.28
8 64.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 35.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.3
9 53.9% hungarian (behar) + 46.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.43
10 80.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.1% uzbek (behar) @ 3.43
11 52.3% hungarian (behar) + 47.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.53
12 75.1% romanian-a (behar) + 24.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.59
13 78.4% romanian-a (behar) + 21.6% azeri (harappa) @ 3.63
14 54.6% hungarian (behar) + 45.4% turk (behar) @ 3.66
15 84.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 15.5% hazara (hgdp) @ 3.67
16 52.7% slovenian (xing) + 47.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.72
17 65.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 34.9% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 3.72
18 76.9% romanian-a (behar) + 23.1% turk (behar) @ 3.73
19 77.8% romanian-a (behar) + 22.2% turkish (harappa) @ 3.75
20 76.5% romanian-a (behar) + 23.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)
Danishmend
11-04-2016, 12:13 PM
I don't expect people who have been inhabiting the same land for thousands of years and have never been conquerors in their history to understand a fact: It is not unusual for conquerors to mix with native populations. Medieval Turks were a dynamic, conqueror population, unlike your sissy ancestors.
Why did you not post these ones? Hiding something?
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Murat_Kmet_1057.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/3_Petar_0997.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Gunai_Kmet_1031.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/isa-za-PtV.jpg
Sakis
11-04-2016, 12:24 PM
They don't look Turkish
Danishmend
11-04-2016, 12:32 PM
They don't look Turkish
They don't have to look Anatolian Turkish to identify themselves as Turks. Their autosomal DNA results reflect their origins.
Anatolian Turks = Turkic tribes + Anatolia
Balkan Turks = Turkic tribes + some native Anatolian + Balkan
It is called snowball effect. This is how conquerors roll.
They are more Turkic than Pontic 'Greeks' are Hellenic by the way.
The Blade
11-04-2016, 12:33 PM
They don't look different from the Bulgarians.
In fact, some do look quite different.
More specifically these:
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4_Erai_0988.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/10_Tugai_1276.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/11_Asan_1477.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/8_Ali_0996.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/13_Sherif_1009.jpg
pelikarski
11-04-2016, 12:37 PM
I don't expect people who have been inhabiting the same land for thousands of years and have never been conquerors in their history to understand a fact: It is not unusual for conquerors to mix with native populations. Medieval Turks were a dynamic, conqueror population, unlike your sissy ancestors.
Why did you not post these ones? Hiding something?
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Murat_Kmet_1057.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/3_Petar_0997.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Gunai_Kmet_1031.jpg
https://www.presstv.bg/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/isa-za-PtV.jpg
No why should I when posting the source?
A few have Bulgarian names and I skipped
Danishmend
11-04-2016, 12:44 PM
This is a thread based on cherrypicked photos. He hides those with obvious Turkish influence so that people can call them "just Bulgarians".
Bulgarian Turks - some crowd photos
http://www.mirajnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bulgaristan.jpg
http://kircaalihaber.com/tr_haber_images/20131226_120336.jpg
http://galeri8.uludagsozluk.com/402/bulgaristan-turkleri_620684.jpg
And again, their autosomal dna results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.72
2 East_Med 20.99
3 North_Atlantic 16.54
4 West_Asian 16.37
5 West_Med 14.22
6 Siberian 3.98
7 East_Asian 3.28
8 Red_Sea 2.13
9 Amerindian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.25
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.01
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Nogay @ 3.7
2 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Turkmen @ 3.85
3 81% Bulgarian + 19% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.62
4 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Uzbeki @ 4.68
5 58% Moldavian + 42% Turkish @ 4.73
6 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Tatar @ 4.76
7 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Hazara @ 4.82
8 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.85
9 69.6% Central_Greek + 30.4% Chuvash @ 4.9
10 53% Croatian + 47% Turkish
-----------------------------------
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.96
2 North_European 28.02
3 Atlantic_Med 20.97
4 Gedrosia 7.3
5 Southwest_Asian 6.08
6 Siberian 3.17
7 East_Asian 3.11
8 Southeast_Asian 1.25
9 Northwest_African 0.82
10 South_Asian
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
2 78.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.48
3 51.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.69
4 76.3% Romanians (Behar) + 23.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.9
5 53.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.5% Turks (Behar) @ 4.13
6 85.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.15
7 60.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.27
8 53.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 46.9% German (Dodecad) @ 4.29
9 78.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.29
10 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Uzbeks (Behar)
--------------------------------------------
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 29.65
2 Caucasian 28.73
3 Mediterranean 18.84
4 Baloch 8.75
5 SW-Asian 5.68
6 NE-Asian 3.49
7 Siberian 3.26
8 S-Indian 0.77
9 SE-Asian 0.62
10 Beringian 0.13
11 American 0.09
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 43.7% hungarian (behar) @ 1.92
2 57.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 42.4% slovenian (xing) @ 2.07
3 77.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 22.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.26
4 71.7% romanian-a (behar) + 28.3% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.57
5 67.3% romanian-a (behar) + 32.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.74
6 73.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 26.4% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.07
7 77.3% romanian-a (behar) + 22.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.28
8 64.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 35.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.3
9 53.9% hungarian (behar) + 46.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.43
10 80.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.1% uzbek (behar) @ 3.43
11 52.3% hungarian (behar) + 47.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.53
12 75.1% romanian-a (behar) + 24.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.59
13 78.4% romanian-a (behar) + 21.6% azeri (harappa) @ 3.63
14 54.6% hungarian (behar) + 45.4% turk (behar) @ 3.66
15 84.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 15.5% hazara (hgdp) @ 3.67
16 52.7% slovenian (xing) + 47.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.72
17 65.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 34.9% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 3.72
18 76.9% romanian-a (behar) + 23.1% turk (behar) @ 3.73
19 77.8% romanian-a (behar) + 22.2% turkish (harappa) @ 3.75
20 76.5% romanian-a (behar) + 23.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)
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