Classify My Dad.

[jingorex]

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[de Burgh II]

Alpine.

[decordoba]

Western Mediterran, Iberian

For me Mesolithic and not Alpinid.

[Enflamme]

Do you have another picture?

Alpine maybe.

[Oneeye]

True Oregonian

[Governor]

Not clear, can't classify.

[Rethel]

True G1.

[jingorex]

Do you have another picture?

Alpine maybe.

Maybe a little better this one. I just noticed that most of the pictures i have of my dad he's holding a fish or covered in elk blood.

[Lightshade25]

What state is your father originally from?

[Enflamme]

Maybe a little better this one. I just noticed that most of the pictures i have of my dad he's holding a fish or covered in elk blood.



A simple man! A tall guy, a bearded guy and a fisherman... I love!

[jingorex]

What state is your dad from?

He was born in Michigan but his dad was from New York and only in Michigan because of the Military.

Basically grandpa knocked up grandma and then got deployed overseas before anyone knew she was pregnant.

It was sort of a family secret for a long time that he was adopted and thats really why i got into the whole DNA testing in the first place. We knew nothing about my dads family. He never met his father.

[Lightshade25]

He was born in Michigan but his dad was from New York and only in Michigan because of the Military.

Basically grandpa knocked up grandma and then got deployed overseas before anyone knew she was pregnant.

It was sort of a family secret for a long time that he was adopted and thats really why i got into the whole DNA testing in the first place. We knew nothing about my dads family. He never met his father.

Wow fascinating! What ethnicity did you think he was and what his "real" ethnicity turned out to be? Is your last name Anglo?

Too many questions sorry xD

[Rethel]

He was born in Michigan but his dad was from New York and only in Michigan because of the Military.

Basically grandpa knocked up grandma and then got deployed overseas before anyone knew she was pregnant.

It was sort of a family secret for a long time that he was adopted and thats really why i got into the whole DNA testing in the first place. We knew nothing about my dads family. He never met his father.

Your dad was adopted, but anyway, grandpa is known?

[jingorex]

Wow fascinating! What ethnicity did you think he was and what his "real" ethnicity turned out to be? Is your last name Anglo?

Too many questions sorry xD

We always thought we were Italian! Just like that 23andme commercial! LOL!

Turns out his name REAL surname was Norman in origin, as far as surnames go...my experience so far with surnames is that shit is flaky and names change but you cant get escape the Y chromosome!

[jingorex]

Your dad was adopted, but anyway, grandpa is known?

Yessir. I found his family right after doing the Y32 on FTDNA. I was very lucky. I had only 2 YDNA matches from that y32 test and one was an actual living cousin who had done a decades worth of research before DNA testing even became a thing. Within a month she had found my fathers living half-siblings and we have made contact via email and phone with them. Two living uncles and an aunt that are children of my dads father, with another woman. I got very lucky and went from knowing nothing about my dads father to meeting his living children all within a year...all since i joined this website actually.

It was D1ck that told me the 23andme test wouldnt help much finding my fathers family and suggested that i take the BigY. I took the Y32 and boom! He was right!

[Harkonnen]

Do wogs actually fish?+

[jingorex]

Do wogs actually fish?+

Fishing is for amateurs..CATCHING is for boss wogs :)

[jingorex]

This is a picture of my father, me and my little brothers first son, taken 2010 i think.

http://i64.tinypic.com/5l1b4i.jpg

[Harkonnen]

I have never before heard of a outdoorsy brown guy.

[jingorex]

I have never before heard of a outdoorsy brown guy.

http://i64.tinypic.com/263elqv.jpg

[Rethel]

Yessir. I found his family right after doing the Y32 on FTDNA. I was very lucky. I had only 2 YDNA matches from that y32 test and one was an actual living cousin who had done a decades worth of research before DNA testing even became a thing. Within a month she had found my fathers living half-siblings and we have made contact via email and phone with them. Two living uncles and an aunt that are children of my dads father, with another woman. I got very lucky and went from knowing nothing about my dads father to meeting his living children all within a year...all since i joined this website actually.

So, you can know your all history now. Great.

Lucky? It is very very very very very lucky :)


It was D1ck that told me the 23andme test wouldnt help much finding my fathers family and suggested that i take the BigY. I took the Y32 and boom! He was right!

Still lucky.
Not so much people, so close related in addition, and not knowing at
the same time that they are related in 2nd addition, make that test.

Simply, unbeliveable luck.

So, when and where did live your oldest ancestor?

[jingorex]

So, you can know your all history now. Great.

Lucky? It is very very very very very lucky :)



Still lucky.
Not so much people, so close related in addition, and not knowing at
the same time that they are related in 2nd addition, make that test.

Simply, unbeliveable luck.

So, when and where did live your oldest ancestor?

So far we only have legit documents that can get back to 1821 New Jersey for my paternal 5th great grandfather.

Now there is a link after that which is pretty solid but there is no actual supporting documentation that proves it. Basically a birth record for my 4th great grandfather 1821 that includes his fathers and mothers name but no other documents that have either of those names to support it. Understand?

Its pretty much a brick wall and i guess it because the nature of record keeping laziness in early frontier America...Now on my mothers side the history is well documented back to 1722. My mothers brother is big into ancestry and has supporting documents that can trace that side back to 1722. I even have a relatively famous great grandfather on my mothers side that was part of a militia that created Tennessee before it was even as state. There is actually a book written about them and he's mentioned in it a few times.

The book is called 'the overmountain men and battle of kings mountain' by Randal Jones.

[Rethel]

So far we only have legit documents that can get back to 1821 New Jersey for my paternal 5th great grandfather.

Now there is a link after that which is pretty solid but there is no actual supporting documentation that proves it. Basically a birth record for my 4th great grandfather 1821 that includes his fathers and mothers name but no other documents that have either of those names to support it. Understand?

So, you are native USAmerican :) Newjerseyian :)


Its pretty much a brick wall and i guess it because the nature of record keeping laziness in early frontier America...Now on my mothers side the history is well documented back to 1722. My mothers brother is big into ancestry and has supporting documents that can trace that side back to 1722. I even have a relatively famous great grandfather on my mothers side that was part of a militia that created Tennessee before it was even as state. There is actually a book written about them and he's mentioned in it a few times.

The book is called 'the overmountain men and battle of kings mountain' by Randal Jones.

Interesting, but irrelevant here. :p

[jingorex]

Heres my 3rd Great grandfather, paternal side.

http://i63.tinypic.com/v2zig5.jpg

[jingorex]

Interesting, but irrelevant here. :p

I feel ya bro. It's weird i guess but a man really wants to know about his fathers side.

[Rethel]

Heres my 3rd Great grandfather, paternal side.

And you have photo! I am envy! :)

[Rethel]

I feel ya bro. It's weird i guess but a man really wants to know about his fathers side.

If I would be an average TA-delusionist, I would say, that "we" are almost
the neighbours, becasue my "greatgreatgrandparents" are (lived and died)
in Maryland :) But I am not TA-delusionist, and am not going to be. :p

And I have their photo too! :)

But unfortunatly, this is not mine past...

[jingorex]

If I would be an average TA-delusionist, I would say, that "we" are almost
the neighbours, becasue my "greatgreatgrandparents" are (lived and died)
in Maryland :) But I am not TA-delusionist, and am not going to be. :p

And I have their photo too! :)

But unfortunatly, this is not mine past...

How far can you trace back your paternal line? To me it seems people on the old world have a much better structure and record keeping. It seems most euros can trace their people back to like to 1300's.

i WISH i could get a legit claim on that old world stock. thats really what i want to know. WHERE did they come from?

Instead my people are like Dandelion seeds, seeming to go wherever the wind takes them.

[Rethel]

How far can you trace back your paternal line?

Almost directly to around 1600, but whole family -to XIV century.


To me it seems people on the old world have a much better structure and record keeping.

No, we don;t. Americans are sometimes better.

Imagine: in 1944 was burned the main archive in Warsaw,
where (for example) vanished all land owner books for Land
of Łomża since XV too end of XVIII centuries. Almost the
only source for noble genealogies, and there was 50% of
population in that country, who were in that class.

The books which would be very helpfull to me, were burned by
Swedes in 1720s - everything from XVth century up to 1720s.
But fortunatly I lived in the border of two lands, so I have the
records f[rom this second land, and plus some very, very limited
parish data. Other areas of Europe you have nothing. For example
on the Balkans - there is nothing, until late 1800s, when Turks went out.


It seems most euros can trace their people back to like to 1300's.

No, they can't. Even in Western Europe, where the
records are very well preserved, it is not possible.

Of course, if you are talking with idiot, who is claiming all ascendants
as his ancestors, then he probably did that, because in 1300s you
have almost quarter of billion of ascendants, so, some broken many
times line, can be as far as 1300s... but not HIS OWN.


i WISH i could get a legit claim on that old world stock. thats really what i want to know. WHERE did they come from?

Finally - from caucasian pre-Iran. :)


Instead my people are like Dandelion seeds, seeming to go wherever the wind takes them.

Trust me - even 600 years in one village is
not helpfull - like in this case of Łomża-land.

[jingorex]

Almost directly to around 1600, but whole family -to XIV century

Trust me - even 600 years in one village is
not helpfull - like in this case of Łomża-land.

Googled Łomża-land...looks like some good fishing in that river valley.

What are you hunting there? Pig, deers?

[Rethel]

Googled Łomża-land...looks like some good fishing in that river valley.

Hehe... I didn't even think it will be in wikipedia, but is even in english... Łomżaland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81om%C5%BCa_Land) :)


What are you hunting there? Pig, deers?

Now it is mostly reservation...

[jingorex]

Hehe... I didn't even think it will be in wikipedia, but is even in english... Łomżaland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81om%C5%BCa_Land) :)



Now it is mostly reservation...

That river is Narew? What does that translate to?

[Rethel]

That river is Narew? What does that translate to?

If it is slavic/indoeuropean, it would be from the word nur (exact river is on the south of her), then
wiki: The name of the river comes from a Proto-Indo-European root *nr primarily associated with
water (compare Narva, Neretva, Neris, Ner and Nur). In polish we have still the word nurt wich means
the stream/current of the river. But maybe it is even pre-IE, then in that case, nobody knows.

[jingorex]

If it is slavic/indoeuropean, it would be from the word nur (exact rives is on the south of her), then
wiki: The name of the river comes from a Proto-Indo-European root *nr primarily associated with
water (compare Narva, Neretva, Neris, Ner and Nur). In polish we have still the word nurt wich means
the stream/current of the river. But maybe it is even pre-IE, then in that case, nobody knows.

Interesting how H2O seems a universal language.

[Dick]

It was D1ck that told me the 23andme test wouldnt help much finding my fathers family and suggested that i take the BigY. I took the Y32 and boom! He was right!

Glad I helped you out with that bro :yo:

[jingorex]

My fathers, father on the left. Me on the right.

legit?

http://i63.tinypic.com/2upwrht.jpg

[jingorex]

look at how white my grandfathe is. wow.