Classify Cypriot

[FilhoV]

https://imgur.com/a/misxQ

[Graecian]

https://imgur.com/a/misxQ

Mongrel.

[Lavrentis]

Levantinid

[Lavrentis]

Mongrel.

Why? Most Cypriots look like that.

[Kamal900]

Mongrel.

Aren't Cypriots Greeks themselves?

[Kamal900]

I would say East_med with Arabid admixture. Looks Levantine to me.

[MysteriousWays]

Primarily Arabid, with a bit of East Med.

[Lavrentis]

Primarily Arabid, with a bit of East Med.

Now that I see him again, he does look like a light Arabid

[DarknessWin]

Aren't Cypriots Greeks themselves?

Most of them are hellenized arabs

[Kamal900]

Most of them are hellenized arabs

Well, they don't have much Arabian admixture in them in contrast to the Levantine Muslim populations. They're more Levantine than Balkan, yes.

[Graecian]

Arabid mostly plus med= mongrel. And no, he is NOT Greek.

[Lavrentis]

Arabid mostly plus med= mongrel. And no, he is NOT Greek.

With that logic no Cypriot is Greek. Cypriots are genetically Levantine.

Cypriots are not Greek not because of their looks, but because they are just Greek-speaking Levantines. The only thing they have in common with Greece is language.

I mean, if Mexicans and other Spanish-speaking south Americans aren't Spanish, then why are Cypriots Greek?

[Graecian]

With that logic no Cypriot is Greek. Cypriots are genetically Levantine.

Cypriots are not Greek not because of their looks, but because they are just Greek-speaking Levantines. The only thing they have in common with Greece is language.

I mean, if Mexicans and other Spanish-speaking south Americans aren't Spanish, then why are Cypriot Greek?

Because the original Cypriots were genetically and culturally identical to Minoans, who were almost identical to Myceneans, etc.

Cyprus is a Greek island, infested with non Greeks(genetically), and needs to be cleansed

[Tauromachos]

Most of them are hellenized arabs

Nonensense

[Dorian]

With that logic no Cypriot is Greek. Cypriots are genetically Levantine.

Cypriots are not Greek not because of their looks, but because they are just Greek-speaking Levantines. The only thing they have in common with Greece is language.

I mean, if Mexicans and other Spanish-speaking south Americans aren't Spanish, then why are Cypriots Greek?

3thousand years are not enough to be Greek?I'm sick of this whole thing "hellenized cypriots-anatolians"or whatever, in the same way the rest of Greeks are hellenized pelasgians-cycladites-minoans-leleges etc what's the point?an autocthonous tribe "eteocypriots"got hellenized and unfortunately because of it being an island ,more invading levantine tribes got hellenized and it had an effect,no different story than the rest of Greece.

[Kouros]

Why? Most Cypriots look like that.

Most of them look whiter than that

[Graecian]

3thousand years are not enough to be Greek?I'm sick of this whole thing "hellenized cypriots-anatolians"or whatever, in the same way the rest of Greeks are hellenized pelasgians-cycladites-minoans-leleges etc what's the point?an autocthonous tribe "eteocypriots"got hellenized and unfortunately because of it being an island ,more invading levantine tribes got hellenized and it had an effect,no different story than the rest of Greece.

Eteocypriots didnt look like the OP photo, at all.
They looked like your avatar.
Being "hellenized" doesnt make you a Greek or Hellen.

[Kouros]

3thousand years are not enough to be Greek?I'm sick of this whole thing "hellenized cypriots-anatolians"or whatever, in the same way the rest of Greeks are hellenized pelasgians-cycladites-minoans-leleges etc what's the point?an autocthonous tribe "eteocypriots"got hellenized and unfortunately because of it being an island ,more invading levantine tribes got hellenized and it had an effect,no different story than the rest of Greece.

I still consider Cypriots fully Greek/Hellenic (as everybody should) and I think the levantine shift is represented pretty well in their sculptures. Most "Hellenized Anatolians" on the other hand look like they have 0 Greek ancestry, and I don't consider them Greek.

[Kouros]

I still consider Cypriots fully Greek/Hellenic (as everybody should) and I think the levantine shift is represented pretty well in their sculptures. Most "Hellenized Anatolians" on the other hand look like they have 0 Greek ancestry, and I don't consider them Greek.

By hellenized anatolians I mean Lazs, Georgians, Armenians, etc. (whoever looks more like mitroglou than an actual Greek basically). Giourkas Seitaridis is Pontian but looks like a mainlander to me.

http://i.imgur.com/QdnGiu8.jpg

And as for the Levantine shift in art I was referring to:

http://i.imgur.com/25vSJ15.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qCkRhPS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EQhs7q6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Oc2WZw6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Z1Q1Gzm.png

[Kouros]

Cyprus is a Greek island, infested with non Greeks(genetically), and needs to be cleansed

Are you stupid? They are Hellenic by culture and actually share Greek DNA, even if little, with mainlanders. They aren't attached to the mainland so why does it matter? They've always been that way for the longest time.

[Graecian]

Are you stupid? They are Hellenic by culture and actually share Greek DNA, even if little, with mainlanders. They aren't attached to the mainland so why does it matter? They've always been that way for the longest time.

Im stupid.

[Kouros]

Im stupid.

Yeah I didn't mean to insult you like that but what does it matter if Cypriots look like that? The problem is that you think a group of people that don't fit in the mainland shouldn't be there, Cypriots are entirely their own thing and live in their own country.

[Graecian]

Yeah I didn't mean to insult you like that but what does it matter if Cypriots look like that? The problem is that you think a group of people that don't fit in the mainland shouldn't be there, Cypriots are entirely their own thing and live in their own country.

When you understand the correlation between racial admixture and racial mentality, therefore societal behaviour, you will understand why I have a problem, when completely foreign phenotypes are claiming Greek culture.

Original Cypriots werent different from Cretans or Myceneans. These arabid phenotypes invaded way afterwards and polluted the original admixture, which created the Cypriot Greek culture.

[Principe Azzurro]

When you understand the correlation between racial admixture and racial mentality, therefore societal behaviour, you will understand why I have a problem, when completely foreign phenotypes are claiming Greek culture.

Original Cypriots werent different from Cretans or Myceneans. These arabid phenotypes invaded way afterwards and polluted the original admixture, which created the Cypriot Greek culture.

The only pollution is coming from your vile tongue, you even hate on Cypriots, I bet you I look closer to the original Greeks than you do LOL

[Graecian]

The only pollution is coming from your vile tongue, you even hate on Cypriots, I bet you I look closer to the original Greeks than you do LOL

Sure, flake

[Principe Azzurro]

Sure, flake

The sad part for you is that I got 46% Mycenaean and 9% Minoan on the ancient K36 population

[Graecian]

The sad part for you is that I got 46% Mycenaean and 9% Minoan on the ancient K36 population

I dont feel anything for you, sad or otherwise.
You dont matter. At all

[Principe Azzurro]

I dont feel anything for you, sad or otherwise.
You dont matter. At all

Good for you

[Kouros]

When you understand the correlation between racial admixture and racial mentality, therefore societal behaviour, you will understand why I have a problem, when completely foreign phenotypes are claiming Greek culture.

Original Cypriots werent different from Cretans or Myceneans. These arabid phenotypes invaded way afterwards and polluted the original admixture, which created the Cypriot Greek culture.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. Arabids don't belong in Cyprus, I agree. My point was that your average Cypriot in 1000BC or 600BC differed from your average main lander.

http://i.imgur.com/zVyj5yz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nqpRvjM.jpg

I blacked out faces that are 'arabid' or basically anything that doesn't look Greek to me in this one:

http://i.imgur.com/4KXunRS.jpg?1

If Cyprus phenotypically looked like those faces you see in that pic would that be proper to you? It would be perfect to me. They're all Cypriots by the way.

[Kouros]

Good for you

U5 is a Mycenean haplogroup, I was just about to tell you about it. What do you look like?

[Graecian]

I don't think you get what I'm saying. Arabids don't belong in Cyprus, I agree. My point was that your average Cypriot in 1000BC or 600BC differed from your average main lander.

http://i.imgur.com/zVyj5yz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nqpRvjM.jpg

I blacked out faces that are 'arabid' or basically anything that doesn't look Greek to me in this one:

http://i.imgur.com/4KXunRS.jpg?1

If Cyprus phenotypically looked like those faces you see in that pic would that be proper to you? It would be perfect to me. They're all Cypriots by the way.

All these people are pure Greeks and Cypriots. OP photo is a mongrel. I dont know how simpler to say it.

[Tauromachos]

With that logic no Cypriot is Greek. Cypriots are genetically Levantine.


Proofs?

Triandafillids has a chapter on Greek Cypriots in his book and he finds them to be predominantly Greek and related to other Greek people.

If you disagree with him feel free to publish your own study and proof him wrong.

Mr Selfdeclared Geneticist of Apricity

[Hellenas]

Some older posts of mine about Cypriots.

Enjoy them.


Genetics, genetics and genetics, that's all you band, by posting also tanned photos of Cypriots.

Phenotypically Cypriots are a mix between Greeks(from Aegean Islands and mainland Greece) and of Near Easterners(locals of Cyprus and Phoenicians as well as more recent Near Easterners), they always were.

The tanned photos you use to post are BS, very rarely a Cypriot is non-white.

Average Cypriot Male from Nikosia
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/f285f367-bcd7-465b-b622-3b94b394a876_zps72dfe192.jpg~original
Composite face from the Greek side of the border made by
combining 16 of the individual male faces.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iQsYeozt11I/USd-6O5SJRI/AAAAAAAAAeg/qnk1SgJdW2I/s1600/all75.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bQAcvQkya74/Uzm4WmwbZaI/AAAAAAAAG40/Woa--0GIVIE/s1600/6.gif

http://content-mcdn.ethnos.gr/filesystem/images/20100223/low/assets_LARGE_t_420_8619586.JPG

http://cyprus-mail.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/missing-persons5.jpg

http://cdn6.cosmosphilly.com/assets/2014/12/cypriots.jpg

http://in-cyprus.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/STK_1563.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6170/6179324508_bd8d6e6348_b.jpg

http://www.parikiaki.com/wp-content/uploads/cyprus-national-team.jpg
Cypriots along with some foreign Europeans.

http://www.lifo.gr/uploads/image/476727/7.png.jpg


Below Cypriots with visible Near Easterner phenotype, Armenoids.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Cyprus/Music/MusicInstr1.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/veterans-of-the-greek-cypriot-nationalist-eoka-underground-guerrilla-picture-id3188595

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/europe_greek_cypriot_voices/img/4.jpg

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/fu/p/729739/638/399/0x000000000084f504/2/glaukos-kliridis-arxeiou.jpg

http://cdn1.bbend.net/media/com_news/story/2016/06/03/702041/main/moustakas.jpg

Greek Cypriots having this brown pigmentation of the two kids at the right as natural are just rare.

http://mylondondiary.co.uk/2005/07/16/050716_n697.jpg


People posting here tanned photos of Cypriots by trying to pass them as niggers are trolls.

[Hellenas]

Near Easterners/Levantines are not some kind of niggers.

In the Near East/Levant you usually find these 3 phenotypes:

1. Armenoids.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BXYW0W/syrian-man-in-traditional-head-scarf-old-city-damascus-syria-BXYW0W.jpg

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DDGBJA/young-syrian-woman-with-hands-off-syria-painted-on-her-cheek-at-demonstration-DDGBJA.jpg

2. Iranids(Middle Easterner brown to light brown skinned).

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mideast_jordan_syrian_refugees.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/26/article-2378815-1B007228000005DC-702_634x467.jpg

Also Asiatic Alpines.

http://storage.torontosun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297779295773_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=420x

http://syrianobserver.com/tjcgArtImages/images/IMG-TFI-67324.jpg

3. Aegean Euro-Mediterranids(at the coasts)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVAjwaoWEAQqqDj.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02129/Syrian_2129640b.jpg


And all these types mixed together.


Sources:

"Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East"
http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf

"The early inhabitants of western Asia"
https://archive.org/stream/earlyinhabitants00luscrich#page/n3/mode/2up

"The racial characteristics of Syrians and Armenians"
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5758366b/f415.image




Cypriots = Europeans + Near Easterners.

Levantines = Near Easterners(Armenoids) + Middle Easterners + Europeans.


Cypriots are not Levantines, Cypriots are just mixed Europeans.





The actor you posted.

http://www.thesopranosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/episode-18-09.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Michael+Imperioli+Detroit+1+8+7+Detroit+Special+Me dBFB0a0zcl.jpg

http://s21.postimg.org/ws5usyb4n/image.jpg

Armenoids can be found in Sicily.

Al Pacino.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Al_Pacino_Cannes_1996.jpg

http://topyaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/al-pacino.jpg

https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/al-pacino.jpg?w=1000&h=750&crop=1

"Because of the lack of clear distinction in craniological studies between Armenoid and Alpine crania, considerable uncertainty prevails as to the prehistoric distribution of the Armenoid race in Europe. Apparently no great extension into Europe of this physical type in its purity occurred in prehistoric times, so far as can be judged from archeological remains. It seems clear, nevertheless, that the oriental phase of the first Early Iron Age, generally called the Hallstatt period in central Europe and dating from about 700 to 500 B.C., witnessed a considerable diffusion of Armenoids from Asia Minor into the Balkan Peninsula, Greece, Italy, and probably other areas adjacent to Asia Minor. The Etruscans almost certainly came from Asia Minor and settled in Italy about the eighth century B.C. And there is reason for believing that they were in some degree Armenoid."

-Hooton

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/single/?p=1017353&t=5088582

The southern Italians, as this survey will indicate, are a distinctive group of people who will not fall into any one recognized racial category. Besides conventional Mediterraneans and Alpines there are two special types which are particularly common, and will be familiar to anyone living in Italian sections of the United States, as well as to anyone who has visited southern Italy. These are: (1) a coarse Mediterranean, short-statured, thick-limbed, mesocephalic, possessing a narrow forehead, wide malars, heavy browridges, a short, broad, straight or lightly concave nose with upturned tip, a strong jaw, and some prognathism; (2) a local approximation to an Armenoid, short-statured, especially thick-set and short-necked, with a flattened occiput, dome-shaped lateral vault profile, heavy browridges, a high-rooted, high-bridged, thick-tipped and depressed-tipped nose, and an especially prominent jaw.

The coarse Mediterranean mesocephal has counterparts in Spain and Portugal, as well as North Africa, and goes back at least to the time of the shell-heap burials of Muge. It seems, however, especially prevalent among South Italians. The local Armenoid may be partly descended from Near Easterners brought to cental and southern Italy in imperial times, but it is more likely that it is to a greater extent a local combination of Alpine with various Mediterranean elements, through the mechanism of differential inheritance.

-Carleton Coon

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII7.htm




Most Greek Cypriots have natural pale white skin color and south-east european features, still not white...? Other Greek Cypriots have natural pale white skin color and near eastern armenoid features, not white if we only consider that Armenoid is a non-European phenotype and then there are some light brown and fewer brown skinned Greek Cypriots who definetely are not white.

To say all are this, all are that is wrong.

[Hellenas]

Famous Cypriot singers.


http://www.govastileto.gr/assets/images/224644.jpg

Anna Vissi

http://cdn.cnngreece.gr/media/com_news/story/2016/09/07/45421/main/6e3579df58183ebf7b48cfde6b2b96a0_XL.jpg

Michalis Hatzigiannis

https://www.mygreekfm.com/covers/art-photo/img-5a4ea43655497172801b3eff68e833a9/3233/image.jpg?1

Michalis Violaris

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ANms7HEa2QM/TUb2LAYxqXI/AAAAAAAAB5s/TP7n-LcxH9Y/s1600/12319_388130808469_56816793469_3823505_2082650_n.j pg

Konstantina

http://www.e-orfeas.gr/images/stories/articles/interviews/eyridikh_4.jpg

Evridice

http://www.ilovestyle.com/sites/default/files/styles/sc_290x370/public/alehia_0.jpg

Alexia

http://www.i-eidisi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/%CE%97-%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%B2%CE%AE-%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85-%CF%80%CE%AE%CF%81%CE%B5-%CE%B1%CF%80%CF%8C-%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CE%95%CE%A1%CE%A4-%CE%BF-%CE%9A%CF%89%CE%BD%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%84%C E%AF%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82-%CE%A7%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%86%CF%8C%C F%81%CE%BF%CF%85-656x330.jpg

Konstantinos Christoforou

http://www.backstage24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ioannidis.jpg

Alkinoos Ioannidis

http://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2013-08/367980/4152749_640px.jpg?1377542398

Hivi Adamou

http://www.ilovestyle.com/sites/default/files/maria_elena_7.jpg

Maria Hellena Kyriakou

http://www.govastileto.gr/assets/images/60421.jpg

Stavros Konstantinou

http://www.peoplegreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/15/eleftheria-eleftheriou-homepage.png

Eleftheria Eleftheriou

http://www.star-fm.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/olympioy-2.jpg

Despina Olympiou

http://www.gossip-tv.gr/media/com_news/story/2011/11/14/150094/main/a94ddf06255b0e4efc91a86f544dbba9.jpg

Giorgos Theophanous(composer)

http://www.agiosgeorgiossylikou.org/uploads/images/Gallery/marios_tokas/N1.jpg

Marios Tokas(composer)

http://www.e-orfeas.gr/images/stories/2008/afierwmata/loizos/loizos_2.jpghttp://www.musiccorner.gr/images/various/loizos_01.jpg

Manos Loizos(composer)


Greeks just love them.

[Hellenas]

This Seth MacFarlane keep posting heavily tanned Cypriots by trying to pass them for Arabs.

http://epikaira.gr/var/thumbs/1403879111a684aaed734d0b729c6312d26a21f69c.jpg
http://city.sigmalive.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_625x435/public/article/2016-06/teke-aa2.jpg?itok=2fumqF8c
http://like.philenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/kentriki-4.jpg
http://www.i-eidisi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/cover-1-770x439_c.jpg
http://www.lifenewscy.com/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/282-0.OREOI.4097b34e39e7a1efa375ce29a1539a4d.jpg
http://like.philenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/tragoudistes.jpg
http://www.eprovoli.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/113-36839.14216565463464.75585b38736a4db22f2a8622b2810 1fa.jpg
http://www.cityway.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/immigrants3.jpg
http://www.ilovestyle.com/sites/default/files/sitefiles/10252026_10206166724991549_2278167586683064601_n_a rthro.jpg
http://www.ilovestyle.com/sites/default/files/sitefiles/10994447_659236567514684_4367461621305146382_n_art hro.jpg
http://uncrcpc.org.cy/assets/images/Celebrity_Supporters/eponymoi-kyprioi-enantia-sto-scholiko-ekfovismo.jpg

[Hellenas]

Mr Cyprus 2017

http://dromosfm.alfanews.com.cy/media/k2/items/cache/f986d21835fb47e30e4c2723b79709b8_XL.jpg
Click to enlarge: http://dromosfm.alfanews.com.cy/media/k2/items/cache/f986d21835fb47e30e4c2723b79709b8_XL.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMOJIfILwY

[Tauromachos]

@Hellenas

Not to mention that from all other Greek people,Cretans are probably one of the genetically most closest to Cyprus

[Hellenas]

Proofs?

Triandafillids has a chapter on Greek Cypriots in his book and he finds them to be predominantly Greek and related to other Greek people.

If you disagree with him feel free to publish your own study and proof him wrong.

Mr Selfdeclared Geneticist of Apricity

Lavrentis is the biggest fan of "Hellenization" theories. The cherry at the top of the cake will be "there are no Greeks at all, all are Hellenized"!

[Tauromachos]

Lavrentis is the biggest fan of "Hellenization" theories. The cherry at the top of the cake will be "there are no Greeks at all, all are Hellenized"!

Its an irony,without knowing it he serves the interests of Albanians,Fyromians,Turks,Nordicists,Orientalists and others with an Anti-Greek agenda.
He also invites people like Gültikin to troll on Greeks.

I believe Lavrentis is phenotypically Anadolid and because of that he became so obsessed with Anatolians and Levantines

[Hellenas]

Its an irony,without knowing it he serves the interests of Albanians,Fryromians,Turks,Nordicists,Orientalists and others with an Anti-Greek agenda.
He also invites people like Gültikin to troll on Greeks.

I believe Lavrentis is phenotypically Anadolid and because of that he became so obsessed with Anatolians and Levantines

So far he has claimed Hellenized Greeks are: 1)Anatolian Greeks and Pontians, 2)Macedonians(as being half Anatolian Greeks and Pontians), 3) Slavophone Greeks, 4)Pomaks, 5) Arvanites, 6) Greeks from Egypt, 7) Cypriots.

[Kouros]

All these people are pure Greeks and Cypriots. OP photo is a mongrel. I dont know how simpler to say it.

Ok then we both agree.

[Sikeliot]

He looks Levantine which makes sense given the genetic affinities of Cyprus.

[Principe Azzurro]

Hellanas, I find many of the Cypriot pics you posted can actually pass as Southern Italians.

[Hellenas]

Hellanas, I find many of the Cypriot pics you posted can actually pass as Southern Italians.

Since you say... you know better your people.

[Tauromachos]

So far he has claimed Hellenized Greeks are: 1)Anatolian Greeks and Pontians, 2)Macedonians(as being half Anatolian Greeks and Pontians), 3) Slavophone Greeks, 4)Pomaks, 5) Arvanites, 6) Greeks from Egypt, 7) Cypriots.

Lets see what his next claims will be....

[Gangrel]

The only pollution is coming from your vile tongue, you even hate on Cypriots, I bet you I look closer to the original Greeks than you do LOL

He is angry at Cypriots due to his own insecurities. He looks like one with his bulging eyes

[Gangrel]

Hellenas is one of the few Greeks with honor on this forum. How Lavrentis can claim he is still not a nordicist blows my mind, add the fact that Cretans score closest to Cypriots than other Greeks LOL

[FilhoV]

U5 is a Mycenean haplogroup, I was just about to tell you about it. What do you look like?

I though u5 was a northern Euro Haplogroup

[gültekin]

LOL this thread is pure gold


Are these Cretans Hellenized MENAs too? What do you guys think?
https://routaki.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cretan-wedding-photo-by-Tsatsas-Art-Studio.jpg
http://www.apodimoi-krites.gr/wp-content/uploads/mprousko.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PFFcyMuB-fk/VOHBKdfoddI/AAAAAAAAC60/mnu66tS3lNQ/s1600/kritikos_gamos.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J_4gzWR_YIU/V_NLZD5c5zI/AAAAAAAAwco/IzTc9K011v885NJPLKnkrbRE25-LsgsGQCLcB/s1600/20160915_111521.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BuuDybveH2k/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M3lPv4V63hA/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/d6/42/f1d64295f29e94694eda46db77f60bb8.jpg
http://www.da-giorgio.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/crete-dancers.jpg
http://pancretan.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/caption_7060_10791839392-600x400.jpg

[Desiderium]

Mediterranid.

[Kouros]

LOL this thread is pure gold


Are these Cretans Hellenized MENAs too? What do you guys think?
https://routaki.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Cretan-wedding-photo-by-Tsatsas-Art-Studio.jpg
http://www.apodimoi-krites.gr/wp-content/uploads/mprousko.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PFFcyMuB-fk/VOHBKdfoddI/AAAAAAAAC60/mnu66tS3lNQ/s1600/kritikos_gamos.jpg
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Who hurt your feelings and what did they do to you?


I though u5 was a northern Euro Haplogroup

U5(a1) is a Northern European haplogroup in the same way R1a is an Indian haplogroup. It's concentrated mostly in central Asians and Siberians today but was apparently common amongst Europeans 8,000 years ago.

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[Sebastianus Rex]

East-Med + Syrid

[Hadouken]

East (Aegean) Med + Arabid

imo he looks Sephardic

[Lavrentis]

East (Aegean) Med + Arabid

imo he looks Sephardic

Aegean Med is not East Med. East Med is a phenotype of the Levant, even though some people here said that even Pontids are East Med, which is wrong.

[Hadouken]

Aegean Med is not East Med. East Med is a phenotype of the Levant, even though some people here said that even Pontids are East Med, which is wrong.

East Meds are Mediterranids who inhabit the eastern mediterranean region . it is not (only) a Levantine type . in fact the best example of it is the Cappadocian type

FIG. 1 (3 views). A Turk from Kharput, eastern Turkey. This moderately tall, brunet Mediterranean Turk is remarkable for his considerable head length, and especially for the great height of his upper face and nose.

https://pp.vk.me/c627623/v627623529/2326a/SVrDTWdm9GI.jpg

aegean Med is just a european version which is also findable in west asia while the cappadocian is a west asian med type (from lebanon to west/north iran basically) but also findable in small number in europe

if I am not wrong pontids are also east meds but they have some northern influence/admixture too . Pontid is to East Med what Atlantid is to Atlanto Med (even though Atlantid doesnt really exist afaik)

[Porn Master]

Pontids of Balkans and Anatolia don't look like Pontids from South Russia or Caucasus

[Lavrentis]

Pontids of Balkans and Anatolia don't look like Pontids from South Russia or Caucasus

The Pontid phenotype doesn't really exist. There are also craniocephalic differences between Pontids. It is indeed true that the Pontids of Russia and Ukraine do not look like the Pontids of the Balkans.

[Hadouken]

as far as I know the Pontid type actually is based on the Circassian people . it was called the "cherkess" type by Russians because many circassians have that phenotype

among russians and ukrainians etc. you will find more often the north pontid type and I think pontids from balkans and west asia are mixed with other mediterranoid types while those from the north such as russia are mixed often with northern types etc.

[Tauromachos]

Pontid is not Balkan.

Pontid clearly refers to Pontus the Greek name for the Black Sea,so it must have primarily to do with
the Black Sea region.

Alot of Pontian Greeks have also Pontid phenotype as well as some native Caucasians like Georgians have.
Probably Tukish Laz which are among the lightest of all people in Turkey also are often Pontids.

It clearly says Pontid not Balkanid.

Don't forget that alot of Balkan countries are also Black Sea countries,Serbia,Romania,Bulgaria...

[Linet]

Greek


Because the original Cypriots were genetically and culturally identical to Minoans, who were almost identical to Myceneans, etc.

Cyprus is a Greek island, infested with non Greeks(genetically), and needs to be cleansed

Minoans would look like todays Cypriots....they were Levantines themselves. The Cypriots didnt mix with Dorians.

[Linet]

LOL this thread is pure gold


Are these Cretans Hellenized MENAs too? What do you guys think?
[/IMG]

Cretans are as much Greeks as Cypriots are. They both started with Levantine populations (Minoans and Eteocretans on one side and Eteocypriots on the other)...but Cyprus didnt have any Dorian invasion. Still the older Cretan blood, Levantine types, shows from time to time.....the difference is that to me thats something to be proud about (being connected with 5000 years of ancestry) while for some people like Lavrentis thats something to be ashamed.....

[Tauromachos]

Greek



Minoans would look like todays Cypriots....they were Levantines themselves. The Cypriots didnt mix with Dorians.

Minoans would look most similar to people you can still find today in Crete,not to Cypriots.

Not all Cretans look Minoan either but they exist.

Greek Cypriots were Achaeans a Greek tribe the was in the Peloponese prior to the arrival of Dorians there.

The dialect is called Arcado-Cypriot.
They have to do with ancient Arcadians

[Lavrentis]

This insecure Linet girl tries to present the Eteocretans as a Levantine population just because the Eteocyoriots were a Levantine population. Or maybe because Cypriots themselves are a Greek-speaking Levantine population.

She does this out of insecurity, since it's hard to accept that Cypriots are Levantines, she has to present Greeks as Levantines too.


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[Linet]

This insecure Linet girl tries to present the Eteocretans as a Levantine population just because the Eteocyoriots were a Levantine population. Or maybe because Cypriots themselves are a Greek-speaking Levantine population.

She does this out of insecurity, since it's hard to accept that Cypriots are Levantines, she has to present Greeks as Levantines too.


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Its hard to accept that a Greek is as stupid as you http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/negative/m0945.gif and has made us laughing stock for the Turks http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/agressive/t0108.gif.....

[Kamal900]

Cretans are as much Greeks as Cypriots are. They both started with Levantine populations (Minoans and Eteocretans on one side and Eteocypriots on the other)...but Cyprus didnt have any Dorian invasion. Still the older Cretan blood, Levantine types, shows from time to time.....the difference is that to me thats something to be proud about (being connected with 5000 years of ancestry) while for some people like Lavrentis thats something to be ashamed.....

And I genetically cluster with these people very closely, yes. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that statement, and the Cypriots are just as Greek as the rest regardless of their genetic profile and so on. They do deserve our sympathy and support for what happened to them back in the 70's while the rest of the world didn't do anything to stop the carnage of the island.

[Odin]

East-Med + Syrid.