Classify Spanish Catalan

[JohnSmith]

I think he looks quite French Canadian but is from Catalonia Spain.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=67838&d=1506259633
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[Ilma]

What is your thing with Quebecois ? lol
I guess as long as one has a western vibe enough and not too dark phenotype he looks Quebecois for you :lol:

He looks Spanish IMO but could pass all the way in Southern France without being atypical.

[JohnSmith]

What is your thing with Quebecois ? lol
I guess as long as one has a western vibe enough and not too dark phenotype he looks Quebecois for you :lol:

He would be a dime a dozen in Quebec. Very typical there.

[Ilma]

He would be a dime a dozen in Quebec. Very typical there.

Weird enough since Spanish people didn't colonize Quebec. He looks more typical as Spanish or from Southern France but he has a very pan western look IMO.

[Rethel]

Mix of types with dominant southern influence.

[JohnSmith]

Weird enough since Spanish people didn't colonize Quebec. He looks more typical as Spanish or from Southern France but he has a very pan western look IMO.

It is the facial features mostly that are similar between the two groups that look similar to me. The snub nose and narrow face.

[Ilma]

It is the facial features mostly that are similar between the two groups that look similar to me. The snub nose and narrow face.

:noidea: just pan western euro features man ! his nose shape is more spanish to me but pass as well all the western / southern areas.

[JohnSmith]

:noidea: just pan western euro features man ! his nose shape is more spanish to me but pass as well all the western / southern areas.

Yup,, Western is it.

[Ilma]

Yup,, Western is it.

So nothing specific Quebecois to me exept the "western vibe" that many naturally have.

[JohnSmith]

So nothing specific Quebecois to me exept the "western vibe" that many naturally have.

I think that is part of it but many have lighter hair and eyes which you have.

[JohnSmith]

I also do not think Catalans are a good representation of Iberians since it is a small area. Also, Catalan Language is an odd ball.

[Ilma]

I think that is part of it but many have lighter hair and eyes which you have.

The Norman part of it probably :) At least 20% of colons were Normans according to this source :

http://www.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca/francophonie/images/Nlle-France-prov_fr.GIF

http://www.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca/francophonie/HISTfrQC_s1_Nlle-France.htm

[Ilma]

I also do not think Catalans are a good representation of Iberians since it is a small area. Also, Catalan Language is an odd ball.

Catalans have somewhat similar ethnogenesis but had less arabic impact since it was the place where originated the Reconquista. They are now closer to Occitans than Spanish people overall but want to be considered as different because of their history.

[JohnSmith]

Mix of types with dominant southern influence.

Catalans are probably not the best representations of Iberians. They are very close to France.

[Ilma]

Catalans are probably not the best representations of Iberians. They are very close to France.

They were part of the Visigothic Kingdom along with Septimania and some Occitan places now :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Visigoth_Kingdom.jpg/588px-Visigoth_Kingdom.jpg

Being close to "France" territory does not make them "french" or less Iberians. :p

[JohnSmith]

They were part of the Visigothic Kingdom along with Septimania and some Occitan places now :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Visigoth_Kingdom.jpg/588px-Visigoth_Kingdom.jpg

Being close to "France" territory does not make them "french" or less Iberians. :p

I think people that border each other tend to have similarities. This is the case throughout the world.

[Ilma]

I think people that border each other tend to have similarities. This is the case throughout the world.

Then they have more similarities with Occitans than with "french people", Occitans are different ethnically and also by culture.

[JohnSmith]

Then they have more similarities with Occitans than with "french people", Occitans are different ethnically and also by culture.

Catalan Royals were Frankish Vassals int he Middle Ages. Catalan also adopted Frankish words.

http://www.barcelonas.com/medieval-origins-of-catalonia.html
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Catalan_terms_derived_from_Frankish

[Ilma]

Catalan Royals were Frankish Vassals int he Middle Ages. Catalan also adopted Frankish words.

http://www.barcelonas.com/medieval-origins-of-catalonia.html
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Catalan_terms_derived_from_Frankish

The leading class is not usually representative of the population IMO :)

Frankish Kingdom, also French Empire changed a lot considering borders through times.

Before 814 :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Frankish_Empire_481_to_814-en.svg/1280px-Frankish_Empire_481_to_814-en.svg.png

814 :

https://bladehoner.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/europe-9th-century.png?w=650&h=427

During the 10th century (autonomous duches and principautes belonging to the French King settled in blue area) :

https://traveltoeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/wpid-Photo-Sep-13-2013-832-PM.jpg

During the 100 years war (14th) :

http://www.halinaking.co.uk/Location/Yorkshire/Frames/History/1337%20Hundred%20Years%20War/Images/100%20Years%20War%20Map.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/47/d7/c947d7480073e303683d1cc00fa6f39e--map-france-maps-history.jpg

The so called "France" is only what you know today as French territory delimited from Belgium / Germany / Italian / Swiss and Spain borders as what is annexed and possessed, just like before.

Catalans people would tell better than me for the rest, no more off-topic from me sorry :D

[Melki]

What is your thing with Quebecois ? lol
I guess as long as one has a western vibe enough and not too dark phenotype he looks Quebecois for you :lol:

He looks Spanish IMO but could pass all the way in Southern France without being atypical.

Would perfectly fit in northern France too...even in Holland.

[Ilma]

Would perfectly fit in northern France too...even in Holland.

Eyes and nose, features overall make me think of average spanish but yes as I said, he has that pan euro western vibe anyway so he can pass in lot of places.

[JohnSmith]

Would perfectly fit in northern France too...even in Holland.

Ryan Lochte's Mother(Cuban Spanish Basque) looks Western to me also.

http://content.king5.com/photo/2016/08/19/636072315061959603-ileana-lochte08-19_1471654521050_5596428_ver1.0.JPG

Similar to to Christine Lagarde,,they do not look very much alike I guess but Western non the less.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02346/lagarde_2346346b.jpg

[JohnSmith]

Perez Hilton Cuban American of Spanish ancestry would also fit the same look:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/12/19/15/Perez-Hilton.jpg

[JohnSmith]

Former Portuguese Finance Minister also fits that Western look:

It seems like they are mostly Galicians, Basque and Catalans that can fit better into the Western look.

http://www.lusonoticias.com/images/stories/2013/LUSONOTICIAS/POLITICA/MariaLuisAlbuquerque.jpeg

[MysteriousWays]

Pan western European (more SW than NW imo, but can pass to some extent in both).

[JohnSmith]

Portuguese American Meredith Riviera also:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/629665277836455936/kDbmZZro.jpg

[Bell Beaker]

Portuguese American Meredith Riviera also:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/629665277836455936/kDbmZZro.jpg

*Vieira. :)

[Сербо Макеридов]

Look more French than Iberian to me.

[Damião de Góis]

Former Portuguese Finance Minister also fits that Western look:

It seems like they are mostly Galicians, Basque and Catalans that can fit better into the Western look.

http://www.lusonoticias.com/images/stories/2013/LUSONOTICIAS/POLITICA/MariaLuisAlbuquerque.jpeg

People with light features are found all over the peninsula. It's perhaps the frequency that varies.

[JohnSmith]

People with light features are found all over the peninsula. It's perhaps the frequency that varies.

I agree I just do not understand why everyone paints Iberians as so exotic. It doesn't make sense to me from what I have seen. Ofcourse there are outliers.

[Cristiano viejo]

Catalans have somewhat similar ethnogenesis but had less arabic impact since it was the place where originated the Reconquista. They are now closer to Occitans than Spanish people overall but want to be considered as different because of their history.
WHAT THE FUCK WHAT A NONSENSE... Reconquista started in Asturias, not in Catalonia :picard1:

Even South Catalonia (Lérida or Tortosa) was reconquered later than some zones of Central Spain (this could be applied for Basques too: Tudela)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Spain_Reconquista_cities.png/800px-Spain_Reconquista_cities.png


Catalans are probably not the best representations of Iberians. They are very close to France.
They are not closer to France than to the rest of Spain, as it is obvious.

Also Catalans are 7 millions of persons, ie 1/7 of the Spanish population is Catalan. They are a very good representation of Spaniards :thumb001:
And a grotesque percentage of Catalans have Andalusian origins, so imagine if they are a good representation or not... :rolleyes:


Would perfectly fit in northern France too...even in Holland.
Ilmaculada is very delusional about the concept of Southern and Northern France.


Look more French than Iberian to me.
That is impossible since he is Iberian and not French.


I agree I just do not understand why everyone paints Iberians as so exotic. It doesn't make sense to me from what I have seen. Ofcourse there are outliers.
Because envy.

[Vyasa]

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT A NONSENSE... Reconquista started in Asturias, not in Catalonia :picard1:

Even South Catalonia (Lérida or Tortosa) was reconquered later than some zones of Central Spain (this could be applied for Basques too: Tudela)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Spain_Reconquista_cities.png/800px-Spain_Reconquista_cities.png


They are not closer to France than to the rest of Spain, as it is obvious.

Also Catalans are 7 millions of persons, ie 1/7 of the Spanish population is Catalan. They are a very good representation of Spaniards :thumb001:
And a grotesque percentage of Catalans have Andalusian origins, so imagine if they are a good representation or not... :rolleyes:


Ilmaculada is very delusional about the concept of Southern and Northern France.


That is impossible since he is Iberian and not French.


Because envy.

Peace and love Cristiano Viejo :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

Peace and love Cristiano Viejo :thumb001:

Always :thumb001:

[Xacal]

atlantid + Alpine

[Ilma]

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT A NONSENSE... Reconquista started in Asturias, not in Catalonia :picard1:

Even South Catalonia (Lérida or Tortosa) was reconquered later than some zones of Central Spain (this could be applied for Basques too: Tudela)

They are not closer to France than to the rest of Spain, as it is obvious.

Also Catalans are 7 millions of persons, ie 1/7 of the Spanish population is Catalan. They are a very good representation of Spaniards :thumb001:
And a grotesque percentage of Catalans have Andalusian origins, so imagine if they are a good representation or not... :rolleyes:


Ah my bad, I didn't know that about Asturias, sorry then :)

[Odin]

Atlantid.

[JohnSmith]

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[JohnSmith]

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[JohnSmith]

MARTí PONT ROJAS

He has Rojas in his name, which indicates he is only half or less than half Catalan if we are talking about pure origin.

He said he is Catalan.

[Tobi]

Atlantid-cm-berid;

[Manuel]

This is the look I have in my mind when I think of Spanish people. Turbo-Spanish. Is that a "phenotype" in the pseudo-anthropological language you guys use?

[Autrigón]

Anyone born in catalunya can say they are Catalan. As a result they can have Irish names, Castillian names or whatever. I am talking about if you want a face of a guy with only Catalan names. You picked a guy whose mother is Castilian or from some other region of Spain.

here is my response again, not trying to offend you - just trying to educate you that 100,000s of Spanish emigrated to Catalunya last century for work. There kids can call themselves catalan if they want.. doesn't mean they are.Rufián, el muchacho de Jaén, dice que es Catalán :D

[Sebastianus Rex]

Catalans have somewhat similar ethnogenesis but had less arabic impact since it was the place where originated the Reconquista. They are now closer to Occitans than Spanish people overall but want to be considered as different because of their history.

The Reconquista started in the mountainous region called Picos d'Europa, corresponding the Kingdom of Asturias, where most of the Visighotic nobility had withdrawn during the Moorish expansion.

The Reconquista process had already started 10 years before than the battle of Poitiers/Tours, after wich the Moorish armies raided and sacked southern French during several years.

[Cristiano viejo]

He said he is Catalan.

And he is. But you have to take into account that the vast majority of the Catalans are not 100% ethnically Catalan.

[Longobarda]

Perez Hilton Cuban American of Spanish ancestry would also fit the same look:

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/12/19/15/Perez-Hilton.jpg

PEREZ HILTON (Mario Armando Lavandeira)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Perez_Hilton_at_American_Music_Awards.jpg/800px-Perez_Hilton_at_American_Music_Awards.jpg

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9248885.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Perez-Hilton.jpg

[Longobarda]

Ryan Lochte's Mother(Cuban Spanish Basque) looks Western to me also.

http://content.king5.com/photo/2016/08/19/636072315061959603-ileana-lochte08-19_1471654521050_5596428_ver1.0.JPG

Similar to to Christine Lagarde,,they do not look very much alike I guess but Western non the less.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02346/lagarde_2346346b.jpg

Nothing in common between CUBAN mother of Ryan Lochte and Christine Lagarde.

And what about this other "Aramburu" (surname of Lochte's mother)??

https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/b303f2d004b38702_3-1651/samanthajoaramburu.jpg

[Longobarda]

People with light features are found all over the peninsula. It's perhaps the frequency that varies.

WHAAAAAT??? All over the iberian peninsula? PLEASE DON'T TELL LIES. Portuguese are lighter than spaniards and I've seen more blonds or blue eyed than in Spain. Specially Basque people are VERY DARK. More than andalusians (except for spanish gipsies)

[Damião de Góis]

WHAAAAAT??? All over the iberian peninsula? PLEASE DON'T TELL LIES. Portuguese are lighter than spaniards and I've seen more blonds or blue eyed than in Spain. Specially Basque people are VERY DARK. More than andalusians (except for spanish gipsies)

Yes they are spread. You think they are concentrated in a particular region?

And there are tons of examples of light basques...

[Cristiano viejo]

WHAAAAAT??? All over the iberian peninsula? PLEASE DON'T TELL LIES. Portuguese are lighter than spaniards and I've seen more blonds or blue eyed than in Spain. Specially Basque people are VERY DARK. More than andalusians (except for spanish gipsies)

You are on drugs or drunken.
Well, there is a third option, you are a jealous Terrona.

[Longobarda]

Yes they are spread. You think they are concentrated in a particular region?

And there are tons of examples of light basques...

If you are talking abut FRENCH basques I agree with you: there are tons of light basques. But not the SPANISH basques.

[Cristiano viejo]

Basques are 5 billions of times lighter than you, Terrona.
Also genotypically.

[Longobarda]

You are on drugs or drunken.
Well, there is a third option, you are a jealous Terrona.

never taken drugs nor drunk anything except some wine during the meals but not everyday.
Who are drunk are those who affirm that spaniards have tons of light people with fair hair and eyes. IT IS A LIE.

p.s. jealous of whom? of a bunch of cuns?

[Cristiano viejo]

never taken drugs nor drunk anything except some wine during the meals but not everyday.
Who are drunk are those who affirm that spaniards have tons of light people with fair hair and eyes. IT IS A LIE.

p.s. jealous of whom? of a bunch of cuns?

Jealous of us, Terrona. Of us.

Now return yo your hole, Italic Rat.

[Damião de Góis]

If you are talking abut FRENCH basques I agree with you: there are tons of light basques. But not the SPANISH basques.

I don't have the patience to post light basques now.
Anyway, what is your definition of "people with light features"? Is it Ronald Koeman or lighter?

[JMack]

If you are talking abut FRENCH basques I agree with you: there are tons of light basques. But not the SPANISH basques.

They are basically the same thing genetically.

[Cristiano viejo]

They are basically the same thing genetically.

And phenotypically.

[Longobarda]

Basques are 5 billions of times lighter than you, Terrona.
Also genotypically.

Really? First of all you have NEVER seen me in person nor in photograph except for this avatar. Second, basque are the darker of all the iberian peninsula

http://www.radiondadurto.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bilbao.jpg

https://www.republica.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/diada-500.jpg

http://www.themag.co.uk/assets/2012/06/bilbao3.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/24_Basque_people.jpg

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAxXAAAAJGZhNWE0MGIwLWE1ZDMtNGIxMS05Ym YyLTFmMDZmMzNiOWNiNg.jpg

http://www.diariovasco.com/diariovasco/multimedia/201309/07/media/bertsos-sabado%20(2).jpg

[JMack]

And phenotypically.

Yes. It was implied in my last post.

Btw, pigmentation is totally irrelevant to classify people. The only way to do this is with a caliper.

[Cristiano viejo]

Really? First of all you have NEVER seen me in person nor in photograph except for this avatar.
I dont need it, if you are Italian as you claim.


Second, basque are the darker of all the iberian peninsula

:lol:

[Longobarda]

And phenotypically.

really?

FRENCH basques

http://www.ontariobasqueclub.dantzariak.net/images/beti_alai_gv_03.JPG

http://www.berrua.com/uploads/images/Gallery/culture-basque/danseurs%20basques%20enfants.jpg

http://france-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/les-fetes-de-bayonne-sont-un-des-nombreux-temps-forts-estivaux-au-pays-basque.jpg

http://img.aws.la-croix.com/2017/01/06/1200815107/manifestationune-collectivite-territoriale-basque-avait-reuni-entre-4-000-6-000-personnes-2013_0_1400_931.jpg

http://maplanete.blogs.sudouest.fr/media/01/00/3035012540.jpeg

[Cristiano viejo]

really?


Absolutely.

[Longobarda]

Dedicated to Cristiano Viejo


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[Cristiano viejo]

Dedicated to Cristiano Viejo

Who is that ugly and Semite-looking girl? you?

[Longobarda]

I don't have the patience to post light basques now.
Anyway, what is your definition of "people with light features"? Is it Ronald Koeman or lighter?

Have you seen the examples for SPANISH basque and FRENCH basque I have posted? That is one of the difference.
To me light features do not need to be like Koeman, it is enough to be like this one (Valentino Rossi):

http://www.lastampa.it/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p4/2016/10/14/Sport/Foto/RitagliWeb/DDFTZB8W648-kYUG-U10901163702923c8C-1024x576%40LaStampa.it.jpg

or this other one (Jorge Lorenzo):

http://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/upload/252090/images/239850.jpg

They don't look the same but both are almost fair.

[JohnSmith]

I do not think pigmentation has much to do with if people look different or similar,, I look at facial features which are more important.

[Cristiano viejo]

Have you seen the examples for SPANISH basque and FRENCH basque I have posted? That is one of the difference.
To me light features do not need to be like Koeman, it is enough to be like this one (Valentino Rossi):

They don't look the same but both are almost fair.

Are you comparing Jorge Lorenzo with that Semite Valentino Rossi????

https://as01.epimg.net/motor/imagenes/2012/11/22/mas_motor/1353538815_740215_0000000001_noticia_grande.jpg

[Longobarda]

Are you comparing Jorge Lorenzo with that Semite Valentino Rossi????

https://as01.epimg.net/motor/imagenes/2012/11/22/mas_motor/1353538815_740215_0000000001_noticia_grande.jpg

IDIOT Cristiano viejo calls "semite" Valentino Rossi who comes from a land conquered by CELTS SENONES AND BOII?? Hahahahahha I think that you are a baboso chocho chorizo more than absolutely stupid. I've NOT compared them. I've put them as an example of fair people, even if Valentino is blond and blue eyed and Lorenzo is brown haired and green eyed.

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7900000/v5-motogenius-valentino-rossi-7985956-555-369.jpg

[Longobarda]

Who is that ugly and Semite-looking girl? you?

yes, it's me and I am not semite. Post your FACE if you are brave enough! You won't do it because you are a coward and you KNOW that you will look what you are .... hahahaha

[Cristiano viejo]

yes, it's me and I am not semite. Post your FACE if you are brave enough! You won't do it because you are a coward and you KNOW that you will look what you are .... hahahaha

I already did many times, Terrona... ask your Italic Rat fellows :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

IDIOT Cristiano viejo calls "semite" Valentino Rossi who comes from a land conquered by CELTS SENONES AND BOII?? Hahahahahha I think that you are a baboso chocho chorizo more than absolutely stupid. I've NOT compared them. I've put them as an example of fair people, even if Valentino is blond and blue eyed and Lorenzo is brown haired and green eyed.


sorry, Semite, dont tell me your life. Rossi looks mixed as fuck.

[EasternEurope]

You're very right on how he looks VERY French Canadian. He could also pass in Southern France and maybe parts of Italy, not sure though.

[alnortedelsur]

His look is very common through all Spain (and not only in Catalonia). Ergo, a great portion of ethnic Spaniards would pass unnoticed among French Canadians.

[alnortedelsur]

Catalans have somewhat similar ethnogenesis but had less arabic impact since it was the place where originated the Reconquista. They are now closer to Occitans than Spanish people overall but want to be considered as different because of their history.

The Arabic impact is almost null in the genetics of the rest of Spaniards, as well.

And ethnic Catalans are not particularly lighter than the rest of Spaniards in general.

[alnortedelsur]

WHAAAAAT??? All over the iberian peninsula? PLEASE DON'T TELL LIES. Portuguese are lighter than spaniards and I've seen more blonds or blue eyed than in Spain. Specially Basque people are VERY DARK. More than andalusians (except for spanish gipsies)

All over the Iberian peninsula. Like it or not.

And Portuguese are not lighter than Spaniards, but more or less on par.

I better won't say from where you get the bunch of stupidities that come out from your mouth because I am trying to be a gentleman.

[alnortedelsur]

If you are talking abut FRENCH basques I agree with you: there are tons of light basques. But not the SPANISH basques.

This was enough :picard1:

Stop talking out of your ASS stupid German wannabe.

[alnortedelsur]

never taken drugs nor drunk anything except some wine during the meals but not everyday.
Who are drunk are those who affirm that spaniards have tons of light people with fair hair and eyes. IT IS A LIE.

p.s. jealous of whom? of a bunch of cuns?

And then you say that you have lived in Spain :picard1: Si Luis :rolleyes:

Light people with fair hair and eyes are NOT more common among Italians than among Spaniards. Deal with it.

[Neogranadino]

I better won't say from where you get the bunch of stupidities that come out from your mouth because I am trying to be a gentleman.

Hay una regla internetera que dice: Todos en Internet son hombres hasta que se demuestre lo contrario... :rotfl

Regarding classification, I would say Atlantid.

[Lluna Plena]

I see guys like him every day in my town. :) :thumb001:

[alnortedelsur]

I see guys like him every day in my town. :) :thumb001:

And anywhere in Spain. But some people on here would think that he is particularly light for Iberian standards, lol.

[BarcelonaAtlantis]

I think he looks quite French Canadian but is from Catalonia Spain.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=67838&d=1506259633
67838[/IMG]

Thats because french canadians descend from basques/catalans(gascony/navarre..)who founded quebec.No wonder quebec people want independence as well.

[BarcelonaAtlantis]

He kinda looks like the Catalan player Sergi Roberto.

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/h8g0E1gb5U0Ms5XToIYTVg--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NjAwO3E9OTU7dz02MDA-/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v_n5roi33MI/VZTtDYusOLI/AAAAAAAABwk/0pqwVPtEKuA/s1600/sergi%2Broberto%2Bhd%2Bwallpapers.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

This was enough :picard1:

Stop talking out of your ASS stupid German wannabe.

hahahaha!! this Terrona is very funny, you have to admit :lol:

[Longobarda]

He kinda looks like the Catalan player Sergi Roberto.

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/h8g0E1gb5U0Ms5XToIYTVg--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NjAwO3E9OTU7dz02MDA-/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v_n5roi33MI/VZTtDYusOLI/AAAAAAAABwk/0pqwVPtEKuA/s1600/sergi%2Broberto%2Bhd%2Bwallpapers.jpg

does Sergi Roberto dye his hair?

Sergi Roberto in 2010

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Sergi_Roberto_at_the_SBS_Cup_2010.png/320px-Sergi_Roberto_at_the_SBS_Cup_2010.png

Sergi Roberto in 2012

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/2012_2013_-_Sergi_Roberto.jpg/800px-2012_2013_-_Sergi_Roberto.jpg

Sergi Roberto in 2013

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Sergi_Roberto_2013_Catalonia_%282%29.jpg/800px-Sergi_Roberto_2013_Catalonia_%282%29.jpg

[Longobarda]

All over the Iberian peninsula. Like it or not.

And Portuguese are not lighter than Spaniards, but more or less on par.

I better won't say from where you get the bunch of stupidities that come out from your mouth because I am trying to be a gentleman.

who are you? You are VENEZUELAN and pretend to know how are iberians? Do you live in Spain? Have you ever seen a portuguese? And what does it mean that feminine avatar for a guy who pretends to be a "gentleman" (and you are not, believe me). Until now I've Always thought you were a woman.........

[Longobarda]

I already did many times, Terrona... ask your Italic Rat fellows :thumb001:

I can't be terrona. As I've alreay told you many times (but maybe you suffer from Alzheimer) I was born in Lombardy and all my ancestors (none excluded) are from Lombardy. To be exact I live in paralle 46. Impossible for me to be a "terrona" even if I wouldn't mind if I was.

You, on the contrary, are a chorizo cun, maybe gipsy as well. Post your foto if you are brave enough! I've never seen that Group that you mention so much. I'll look for it and see what it is.

[JohnSmith]

Thats because french canadians descend from basques/catalans(gascony/navarre..)who founded quebec.No wonder quebec people want independence as well.


A lot of French Canadians are from Northwest France also.

[Timawa]

Alpine-Norid

[alnortedelsur]

who are you? You are VENEZUELAN and pretend to know how are iberians? Do you live in Spain? Have you ever seen a portuguese? And what does it mean that feminine avatar for a guy who pretends to be a "gentleman" (and you are not, believe me). Until now I've Always thought you were a woman.........

Yeah, that's me, though I am more masculine than that anime. Any problem with it??

And since I see that you're so ignorant about Venezuela, being the case that you talk about Venezuela like if it has nothing to do with Europe :picard1:, I inform you that Venezuela received hundreds of thousands of Spanish, Italians and Portuguese immigrants during the mid/late 20th century, being my Spanish mom and her parents, part of that wave of European immigrants. And I know from my experience back in Venezuela that Portuguese immigrants and their Venezuelan descendants were not lighter than Spanish immigrants and their descendants. And Italian/Italian descent Venezuelans were not lighter than Spanish descent Venezuelans either. They all three were more or less on par, like it or not.

And I lived in Spain, and I came across with plenty of people with light traits, WITHOUT saying with that that Spain is like Germany, but just that Spanish people with light hair and/or eyes are not uncommon, because Spain is not "different" compared to Portugal, Italy or most of the Balkans. You're the one who doesn't know a shit about Spain.

And thanks very much for your thumbs down, BTW

[AphroditeWorshiper]

MARTí PONT ROJAS

He has Rojas in his name, which indicates he is only half or less than half Catalan if we are talking about pure origin.

Here is a Catalan with a pure Catalan name - Jordi Vinyals i Martori - he has an exceptionally Catalan face:

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p1/Polideportivo/Imagenes/2012/06/21/Recortada/MD_20120621_MAS_DEPORTE_D_54314705662-652x492@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

this guy look more Basque than Catalan imo

[Grace O'Malley]

Good looking young man. Looks pan-Western Euro to me.

[Lluna Plena]

He kinda looks like the Catalan player Sergi Roberto.

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/h8g0E1gb5U0Ms5XToIYTVg--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NjAwO3E9OTU7dz02MDA-/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v_n5roi33MI/VZTtDYusOLI/AAAAAAAABwk/0pqwVPtEKuA/s1600/sergi%2Broberto%2Bhd%2Bwallpapers.jpg

Agree. :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

I can't be terrona. As I've alreay told you many times (but maybe you suffer from Alzheimer) I was born in Lombardy and all my ancestors (none excluded) are from Lombardy. To be exact I live in paralle 46. Impossible for me to be a "terrona" even if I wouldn't mind if I was.

You, on the contrary, are a chorizo cun, maybe gipsy as well. Post your foto if you are brave enough! I've never seen that Group that you mention so much. I'll look for it and see what it is.
You are a Terrona. Being a Terrone has nothing to do with being from Lombardy, you wannabe Nordic. Lombardy is plenty of Terroni from South Italy, just a put an example :thumb001:

By the way, Terrona, just yesterday I posted my photo :mocking: Luck that a Semite like you did not see me :victory0:
See some comments and cry


Like me but uber and more Atlantid. And looks taller also, too bad that my mom is short... 10/10.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222804-How-portuguese-do-you-look/page5


5/10.You can pass indeed but you'd be very northern looking... you have a purely Atlantid type look and IMO fit much better in the UK or Ireland. In Sicily you'd fit better in Trapani most likely.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222387-Sikeliot-s-quot-How-Sicilian-do-you-look-quot-(stole-from-Ilma)/page12


Don't think he dyes his hair, he looked the same very young. He is one of the lighter types of Spaniards.

He is a regular Spaniard. His skin colour is absolutely average. Only his blue eyes are not the average since most of Spaniards have brown eyes.

[Longobarda]

You are a Terrona. Being a Terrone has nothing to do with being from Lombardy, you wannabe Nordic. Lombardy is plenty of Terroni from South Italy, just a put an example :thumb001:

He is a regular Spaniard. His skin colour is absolutely average. Only his blue eyes are not the average since most of Spaniards have brown eyes.

I see you must know very well where I live...... If you don't mind, I know my place better than you and if I say that I was born in Lombardy with my ancestors ALL from Lombardy it does mean that I cannot be from another place.
Dear CRETINO, I hope that you will be soon drawn by your "Atlantic face" which DOES NOT mean you are british..... nor that you have not african blood as you pretend or sephardi blood, as you deserve. As I've already told you many times, exactly those who live beside the Atlantic ocean in Spain (Galicians) are those who have the same african percentage as the sicilians and as the entire Spain hahahahahh (7%) and if we refer to Cantabria, the highest african percentage IN EUROPE 18%).

So, a cuccia, deficiente rimbambito. THE CATALAN GUY IN THE PHOTO IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AVERAGE IN ALL SPAIN. Maybe just in Catalonia and nowhere else. This does not mean that here and there exist types like him, but NOT AVERAGE.

bye bye stronzo

[Cristiano viejo]

I see you must know very well where I live...... If you don't mind, I know my place better than you and if I say that I was born in Lombardy with my ancestors ALL from Lombardy it does mean that I cannot be from another place.
Dear CRETINO, I hope that you will be soon drawn by your "Atlantic face" which DOES NOT mean you are british..... nor that you have not african blood as you pretend or sephardi blood, as you deserve. As I've already told you many times, exactly those who live beside the Atlantic ocean in Spain (Galicians) are those who have the same african percentage as the sicilians and as the entire Spain hahahahahh (7%) and if we refer to Cantabria, the highest african percentage IN EUROPE 18%).

So, a cuccia, deficiente rimbambito. THE CATALAN GUY IN THE PHOTO IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AVERAGE IN ALL SPAIN. Maybe just in Catalonia and nowhere else. This does not mean that here and there exist types like him, but NOT AVERAGE.

bye bye stronzo
Bye bye Semite with the highest Middle Eastern percentage IN EUROPE.

[Longobarda]

Bye bye Semite with the highest Middle Eastern percentage IN EUROPE.

Never made a DNA test. I don't need to. Most spaniards have done because of their semite-arabic blod (that you don't want to have) hahahhahahahahahah

[Cristiano viejo]

Never made a DNA test. I don't need to. Most spaniards have done because of their semite-arabic blod (that you don't want to have) hahahhahahahahahah

Cool story as usual, as that of Basques being the darkest Europeans, Semite jaja

Real life: it is Italians who have done these dna tests, showing their Middle Eastern blood.
Live with it, Terrona :thumb001:

[Longobarda]

Cool story as usual, as that of Basques being the darkest Europeans, Semite jaja

Real life: it is Italians who have done these dna tests, showing their Middle Eastern blood.
Live with it, Terrona :thumb001:

"italians"? How many? Where from? scemo di guerra, ignorante e cafone per non dire stronzo. Guarda i tuoi baschi come sono "british" hahahahahhaha tutti biondi con gli occhi azzurri e pelle chiarissssssssima hahhahahhahaha

SPANISH BASQUES

http://www.pure-romania.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Old-City-Bucharest-copyrights-Aurel-Rapa.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

"italians"? How many? Where from? scemo di guerra, ignorante e cafone per non dire stronzo. Guarda i tuoi baschi come sono "british" hahahahahhaha tutti biondi con gli occhi azzurri e pelle chiarissssssssima hahhahahhahaha

Primero, infórmate tú sola igual que, supuestamente :laugh:, te informaste acerca de los españoles que se hicieron esos tests.
Segundo, no me cuentes tu vida, Terrona. Siento decirte que tu obsesión por España no es recíproca por mi parte. Italia me importa tanto como Líbano.

[Cristiano viejo]

I never said he wasn't regular. Read slowly what I type. I said he is one of the lighter types of Spaniards, there are light and dark Spaniards. Not everyone is the same.

There are more than light and dark Spaniards. This guy is not specially light.

[alnortedelsur]

I see you must know very well where I live...... If you don't mind, I know my place better than you and if I say that I was born in Lombardy with my ancestors ALL from Lombardy it does mean that I cannot be from another place.
Dear CRETINO, I hope that you will be soon drawn by your "Atlantic face" which DOES NOT mean you are british..... nor that you have not african blood as you pretend or sephardi blood, as you deserve. As I've already told you many times, exactly those who live beside the Atlantic ocean in Spain (Galicians) are those who have the same african percentage as the sicilians and as the entire Spain hahahahahh (7%) and if we refer to Cantabria, the highest african percentage IN EUROPE 18%).

So, a cuccia, deficiente rimbambito. THE CATALAN GUY IN THE PHOTO IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AVERAGE IN ALL SPAIN. Maybe just in Catalonia and nowhere else. This does not mean that here and there exist types like him, but NOT AVERAGE.

bye bye stronzo

Talking shit as always. I lived in Mallorca, Barcelona and Madrid, and people like him were common as fuck in all those places. Indeed, they were the norm (except for the blue eyes, since most Spaniards are brown eyed), like it or not, my little dumb and ignorant friend.

[Cristiano viejo]

Talking shit as always. I lived in Mallorca, Barcelona and Madrid, and people like him were common as fuck in all those places. Indeed, they were the norm (except for the blue eyes, since most Spaniards are brown eyed), like it or not, my little dumb and ignorant friend.

Expect her butthurt thumb down for what you just said, baby :lol:

[alnortedelsur]

Expect her butthurt thumb down for what you just said, baby :lol:

haha... her thumbs down are a compliment to me :D

[JohnSmith]

bump

[Axios]

he looks like the brother of Sergi Roberto (FCBarcelona player)

[JohnSmith]

bump

[Cristiano viejo]

bump

Dont bite your lips, Johnny.

[JohnSmith]

Dont bite your lips, Johnny.

You are such a smart-ass!!:D

You should do stand up comedy in ROME,lol