Classify Elsa Pataky

[Blossom]

Elsa Pataky was born in Madrid, Spain, daughter of José Francisco Lafuente, a Spanish biochemist and Cristina Pataky Medianu, a publicist of Hungarian and Romanian ancestry.

http://www.vootar.com/imgs/elementos/elsa-pataky-picture-4%5B1%5D.jpg.jpg

http://blogs.elpais.com/.a/6a00d8341bfb1653ef0133ee472aa2970b-pi

http://www.elmundodelcine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/elsa_pataky_roma.jpg

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Elsa+Pataky+Attends+Santos+Photocall+2SJlrm71VdCl. jpg

Before her surgery :D:D
http://spa.fotolog.com/photo/10/6/24/carlota_casi/1227711998421_f.jpg

http://zadock.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/elsa-pataky.jpg

Beauty Elsa, huh?:coffee:

[Agrippa]

Nordomediterranid + Cromagnoid (somewhere between Dalofaelid and Alpinid) and Dinarid.

I see a certain similarity to you, probably that's why you posted her. Really a somwhat similar, just more robust (more Cromagnoid), recombination.

[Blossom]

Nordomediterranid + Cromagnoid (somewhere between Dalofaelid and Alpinid) and Dinarid.

I see a certain similarity to you, probably that's why you posted her. Really a somwhat similar, just more robust (more Cromagnoid), recombination.

Haha omg, no way, I would kill myself if I'd have her nose.:D
I posted her cuz many guys in Spain think she's hot. Though she was WAAAY different before the surgery.
Oh and my cheeks are not that filled...nah, just probably the mouth.

[Matritensis]

She had a face with more character before.Now she looks like another cutie for the masses,that is,quite indistinguishable from the rest.

[Lábaru]

Elsa Pataky always seems totally Romanian in appearancem In fact I know other Romanian girl that seem like her.

[Blossom]

Elsa Pataky always seems totally Romanian in appearancem In fact I know other Romanian girl that seem like her.

She's totally the typical example of Romanian girls. True that in Spain there are many girls seemed to her (they're romanian). I also know one haha.
I think Romanians are really easy to guess because of their shapes...

[Comte Arnau]

She had a face with more character before.Now she looks like another cutie for the masses,that is,quite indistinguishable from the rest.

Totally agree. What is even sadder is to see things like that "bien operada". But one has to get used to dollified faces. Uniqueness is now a thing for collectors and weirdos.

[Agrippa]

Totally agree. What is even sadder is to see things like that "bien operada". But one has to get used to dollified faces. Uniqueness is now a thing for collectors and weirdos.

Fact is, many operations aren't really working in my opinion and look highly unnatural.

Obviously there is good and bad variation, nice and less nice "uniqueness" in traits, but some people really ruin themselves with bad operations rather, some do better though.

There is no general rule about that, because for some it is really highly advisable to change their appearance. I usually use this person as an example before and after treatment - which is of course a pathological case already:

http://img810.imageshack.us/f/mandibulareprognathie1.jpg/
http://img810.imageshack.us/f/mandibulareprognathie1.jpg/
http://img525.imageshack.us/f/mandibulareprognathie2.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/f/mandibulareprognathie2.jpg

[Blossom]

Haha omg, 2 users gave "thanks" to Agrippa when he said she's seemed to me. Guys cmon...I wouldnt like to hear I'm seemed to a surgered woman..or even to a woman with no personality which cant accepts herself as mother nature brought her to Earth.

I dont wanna seem to her, and I even dont. Totally different, from eye color to hair color, face shape and even body. I think I havent post a pic of her body but ..anyway.

Just wanted to classify her cuz everyone in Spain think she's super hot.

[Gamera]

Haha omg, 2 users gave "thanks" to Agrippa when he said she's seemed to me. Guys cmon...I wouldnt like to hear I'm seemed to a surgered woman..or even to a woman with no personality which cant accepts herself as mother nature brought her to Earth.

I dont wanna seem to her, and I even dont. Totally different, from eye color to hair color, face shape and even body. I think I havent post a pic of her body but ..anyway.

Just wanted to classify her cuz everyone in Spain think she's super hot.

You do resemble her to me as well... why is it bad? You're natural and she's not, don't worry about looking like someone who has had surgery if you haven't... why would it be bad for people to tell you that you look like her when she is considered very good looking in Spain? Isn't that supposed to be a good thing? lol



or even to a woman with no personality which cant accepts herself as mother nature brought her to Earth.

This is what I don't understand, you just said you would kill yourself if you would have had her nose. That only makes me think you would have surgically changed it, too, or at least seriously considered the idea of doing so.

[Turkophagos]

She looked more Spanish before the surgery.

[Aramis]

What was wrong with her nose before?

Reminds me of this balkanic actress:

http://www.zagrebancija.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2010/m04/y233273918664960.jpg

[Fortis in Arduis]

Nice work Mr Surgeon.

[Lábaru]

The appearance of Elsa Pataky, including nose and other face features, is 100% Romanian, even the combination of eastern nose and oriental features with light eyes and some Nordic aspect is usual in Romanian, the non-gipsy. For me, I deal frequently with Romanians is very clear.

I agree on the classification of Agrippa, not that seemed like Iliia , are different, in my opinion.

Anyway, the beauty of Elsa Pataky, before and after the operation, is guaranteed.

[Blossom]

This is what I don't understand, you just said you would kill yourself if you would have had her nose. That only makes me think you would have surgically changed it, too, or at least seriously considered the idea of doing so.

Firstly because I've never wanted to be seemed to someone. I've always accepted myself as I am and in any case (non physical) I try to get better..about "killing" is just a way of saying that I prefer my nose, and my features than her :) ..that's why I'm not even seemed to her. She got s amall nose as a caniche dog..cmon there're a difference between her natural nose to that one..

[antonio]

I don't like her too much before...and I like her even less after. For me aestetical surgery is mainly one of the biggest cheats perpetrated by medical class (almost a bunch of greedy bastards with no vocation beyond money) to society as a whole...it's sick the way they change teats into globes, adult noses in inclasificable ones, etc, etc...

Pd. I remember some indie fims when she stared before her current Hwood starlette status and looks quite good, at least better than nowadays.

[Comte Arnau]

Just wanted to classify her cuz everyone in Spain think she's super hot.

Er... no.

[Agrippa]

What was wrong with her nose before?

Reminds me of this balkanic actress:

http://www.zagrebancija.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2010/m04/y233273918664960.jpg

Well, that nose is really a negative trait in a woman. She has an otherwise pretty face, so while I think she is still pretty enough and it might give her a certain "unique appearance", even though it is a progressive trait in a way, for the cause of harmony, I wouldn't mind her correcting that nasal bridge neither.

Because objectively, at least on this picture, it really looks out of proportion.

[Don]

Obviously normal spaniard girls don't rule in tv or hollywood.

They preffer, involving Spain, the non representative gipsy/moor loking ones, as ever was and ever will be:

http://blogs.20minutos.es/becario/files/blog-antes-penelope_cruz.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HvJ_NcfG-ik/SrdAbkRsdHI/AAAAAAAAIVc/gpIzlF1re38/s400/Diana+Peñalver.jpg (Diana Peñalver, "Braindead")

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Representative figures of the real and most common spaniard women have not success compared with the previous non common phenotypes in real Spain.

http://www.blogdecine.cl/wp-content/themes/blogdecine.cl/images/2007/09/4.jpg

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/aitana_sanchez_gijon/fotos/2380/aitana_sanchez_gijon.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y7jEHwotpaU/Sbp5uxT0VeI/AAAAAAAAAko/DCCTsT6nQrg/s400/ingrid-rubio-9.jpg

http://columnas.ejecentral.com.mx/teletentaciones/files/2010/04/Marisa-Paredes.jpg

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/maribel_verdu/fotos/5817/maribel_verdu.jpg

At least not outside our borders.

Guiris prefieren los falsos tópicos.

[Agrippa]

While I agree with you if it's about your argument in general, this


Obviously normal spaniard girls don't rule in tv or hollywood.

They preffer, involving Spain, the non representative gipsy/moor loking ones, as ever was and ever will be:

http://blogs.20minutos.es/becario/files/blog-antes-penelope_cruz.jpg


Is such a bad picture of an otherwise beautiful Mediterranid woman, that it seems to be a joke.

Honestly, photographing her after a car crash wouldn't be much worse probably and the photographer is just completely incompetent.

To use that as an example for that woman:

http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/penelope_cruz_2008_academy_awards_6.l.jpg

is obviously biased.

I'm sure one could make very unfavourable pictures of everyone of us, keep that in mind and be fair :thumbs up

[antonio]

BTW I prefer the first pic because she looks more like her actual family. Let me introduce you the ex-father-in-law of Tom Cruise:

http://quemedices.diezminutos.es/var/qmd/storage/images/noticias_famosos/tom_cruise_presenta_valkiria_en_madrid/valkiria04/179997-1-esl-ES/valkiria04_galeria_portrait.jpg

Pd. I'm not a big fan of masculine types but Id see Mediterranean aged ones looking far much better. :D

[Agrippa]

Well, if you have a bad picture on which you look more like your mother than usually, it still doesn't mean that this picture is more representative... ;)

Also most of us know her from movies and moving pictures are always more accurate in a way to judge a person's phenotype and the first picture is just far, far away from her true appearance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdmWdI-nnx8

[Don]

While I agree with you if it's about your argument in general, this



Is such a bad picture of an otherwise beautiful Mediterranid woman, that it seems to be a joke.

Honestly, photographing her after a car crash wouldn't be much worse probably and the photographer is just completely incompetent.

To use that as an example for that woman:

http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/penelope_cruz_2008_academy_awards_6.l.jpg

is obviously biased.

I'm sure one could make very unfavourable pictures of everyone of us, keep that in mind and be fair :thumbs up

5Va7j2E3s1w El orígen, Nacho Cano.
Dedicated to her. Extract from the lyrics.

No sé si esa cara tan rara
un ojo aquí y un diente allá
o el cuerpecillo de gitana
mujer a medio terminar.


Obviously I picked the picture with an intention.

Anyway, Penélope, whatever is the ability of the photographer, despite her beauty, is not -sadly?- a common or representative type of spaniard woman.


I have found -obviously- "some" spaniard women in my life and the representative, as a face that contains, in some or other way, the usual forms of spaniard women, is maybe Aitana.

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/aitana_sanchez_gijon/fotos/2380/aitana_sanchez_gijon.jpg

http://www.jvidal.com/actrices/Actrices-Actress/Aitana%20Sanchez%20Gijon.jpg

Don't expect to see penélopes or dianas peñalvers in the streets of Spain, but aitanas or other examples of my pictures.
That was my point.

In the other hand, I don't like the idea of having a non common phenotype in the specimen Penélope Cruz or others of the style, representing spaniards, even more, spaniard beauty, since my country is full of impressively beautiful women that don't look that way.

I don't care the expectancies, desires, wishes or ideas about spaniard women that have foreigners. I don't like non representative or even non pure spaniards ("pataki") are chosen as "spaniard beauty".

Understable.

[antonio]

From 0'56'' the relevant stuff of these early steps of Spanish TV best-known people:

First, a former pretty fake-blonde girl ruined by aestetic cirurgy and diets...from Ferrol(Galicia) and formerly from the village of my father. :cool:

Then , earliest Pe performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PapqwfCYgk

And. how can forget her first video ever, as Nacho Cano -better far known(or at least the same) that Pe for any true Spaniard-. I must reckognize I then liked her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL9x9TDNC5Q

[sasa]

The actress referred to here is a Croatian actress Jadranka Đokić.
http://i56.tinypic.com/14abmn6.jpg
While I agree that plastic surgery yields more negative then positive results, I'm not against it. I had rhinoplasty at 18. My nose is naturally on the bigger side plus it got broken in elementary school which resulted with quite the bump on my bridge. It was agreed that my doc would only straighten it while fixing the jumbled insides but he got carried away a bit and now it's concave (and been like that for 11 years). I don't mind really. It's still unique and I'm SO not in favor of giving everyone the "ideal" nose, so I'm all for unique.

With all that said I believe Jadranka's nose in a big distraction on her face, more then a unique benefit. I would make the bump smaller if I were in her shoes. On the other hand I admire her confidence in keeping it, especially being an actress.

Elsa is bland to me, a bit less with her old nose but not a big change all around.

[antonio]

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[Lábaru]

Spanish beauties, my opinion.

South Spain.

http://www.gfxwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/Paz_Vega_Chest_b-93661.jpeg

North Spain.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XQWn6Ly8ptY/TLbDWuUmFyI/AAAAAAAADCw/N6hmwgnw_yA/s1600/DSC_1675+copia.jpg

[Agrippa]

I don't care the expectancies, desires, wishes or ideas about spaniard women that have foreigners. I don't like non representative or even non pure spaniards ("pataki") are chosen as "spaniard beauty".

Understable.

Look, while a woman like Cruz is not representative for the average, it is still nothing that uncommon for the whole South West and Mediterranean region to begin with and your post seems to have been - to me at least - almost hateful towards that woman, which is what I don't understand, because she is a pretty and rather likeable representative of the Spaniards and there are many other Spanish people around in the media.

Also, most people might say similar things about Hollywood's stereotypical representation of them, Spaniards are hardly the "only victims" and I can imagine worse things than being represented by "Latin lovers" and women like Cruz and Paz Vega.

I think Paz Vega is a better representative for rather Mediterranid Spaniards than Cruz, but you might recognise the similarities too:

http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/paz-vega.jpg

If you would lament about actresses like Irene Papas, which are no Spaniards at all, representing Spanish people in Hollywood movies, it would be easier to understand.

Be glad you have a rather positive stereotype in most international movies and not a negative, like some other people :p

[Ibericus]

To use that as an example for that woman:

http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/penelope_cruz_2008_academy_awards_6.l.jpg

is obviously biased.

I'm sure one could make very unfavourable pictures of everyone of us, keep that in mind and be fair :thumbs up
Actually she is even whiter than that, heck she even has freckles, but you'll never see it in Hollywood :

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1402/2485875731422b4515e6o.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pKnrOe1rcu8/SfB4NUoGN7I/AAAAAAAAAgQ/ksoNLQSOCJs/s400/penelope_cruz_without_make_up_.jpg


because she is a pretty and rather sympathic representative of the Spaniards and there are many other Spanish people around in the media.
Representative of spaniards ? Please...

[antonio]

Unfortunatelly Paz Vega Hollywood career had been probably impaired due to the ubiquitous presence of Penelope Cruz as the Hispano-Spanish female reference for their fucking star-system (too little relevant roles for such stereoptype to need two). And that's really unfair.

[Agrippa]

Unfortunatelly Paz Vega Hollywood career had been probably impaired due to the ubiquitous presence of Penelope Cruz as the Hispano-Spanish female reference for their fucking star-system (too little relevant roles for such stereoptype to need two). And that's really unfair.

Their "star system" is fucked up anyway, because most stars are neither that beautiful nor gifted im comparison to many other actors and again, Cruz is for sure not among the worst in that regard.

I don't meant that Cruz is that representative with her detailed-phenotype for Spaniards, but being used as a representative for the Spanish and that there could have been a worse choice around.

[antonio]

Their "star system" is fucked up anyway, because most stars are neither that beautiful nor gifted im comparison to many other actors and again, Cruz is for sure not among the worst in that regard.

Fucked up but makes the difference between a life of work and a life of capital: nowadays Hollywood stars raise up indecent amounts of money, in many cases totally wasted in check-ins, probably due the fact you has exposed: criteria of producers at regard of which actor-actress is a star and which not seem to be really crazy. At concrete case I must recognize Penelope had a certain charm. more evident at her beginnings...as you can check on the posted videos.

[Comte Arnau]

Well, there have examples in Hollywood's history where Germans played "Latina" roles because Spaniards were not Latin enough...

Hitchcock wanted the Catalan actress Teresa Gimpera to play the role of Juanita de Cordoba in his 1969 film Topaz. But when he realized that Teresa was a real blonde, he changed his mind and chose German actress Karin Dor because she looked much more Hispanic... :D

Teresa Gimpera
http://pictures.todocoleccion.net/fot/2007/02/04/4278987.jpg

Karin Dor
http://content7.flixster.com/photo/10/02/31/10023121_gal.jpg

[Agrippa]

They look so much alike if ignoring the hair color and looking at those pictures that I don't see the big deal. I just wonder because Hitchcock seems to have preferred the blond ones and rather Northern temperament, probably he didn't want a "more Latin actress" at all. ;)

[Comte Arnau]

They share some resemblance in those pics, I agree. However, Karin Dor looks more Helleno-Med than West Med to my eyes.

[Agrippa]

They share some resemblance in those pics, I agree. However, Karin Dor looks more Helleno-Med than West Med to my eyes.

That is because she has a more Cromagnoid/Balto-Alpinoid tendency, which most Eastern European Mediterranids have too. The rare "purer" Atlantids/Atlanto-Pontids/Pontids you can find don't look that way neither.

[King Claus]

dinaricized sub nordid

[daniboy]

before surgery she looked mixed between Romanian-Spanish-Hungarian
now (after surgery) I'd place her in Hungary.

[mr. logan]

Semitic alpine with kelt influence.

[daniboy]

She was already pretty, with or without surgery
now she looks a little bit like a plastic woman, but pretty of course.

[Nadezhda89]

Nordid

[blogen]

Nordid

Jesus, she is a dark haired Europo-Mongoloid girl with brutal Mongoloid origin cheekbone:

http://www.elmundodelcine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/elsa_pataky_roma.jpg

Is the situation so dark in the south that is this a Nordic one already in Bulgaria?

[aherne]

Looks 100% Slavic. It happens in Romanians/Hungarians but it makes no sense in Spaniards. Honestly, I don't see anything Iberian about her...

[Sekkmer]

Jesus, she is a dark haired Europo-Mongoloid girl with brutal Mongoloid origin cheekbone:
Retard sandnigga
BTW bump

[Odin]

North Pontid + Atlantid.

[Mixdguy17]

Look way more Romanian than spanish imo

Atlantid + Dinaird + Minor Faelid

[Gallop]

Bad actress

[Didac]

In the before her surgery she looks like trumps daughter