Van Jones on 'Shitholes': Melania Trump's Country Slovenia "Not Exactly The Jewel Of Europe"

[Mingle]

Van Jones on 'Shitholes': Melania Trump's Country Slovenia "Not Exactly The Jewel Of Europe"
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: Van Jones, I mean should this come as a surprise to people?

VAN JONES, CNN: Well, I mean it's not only racist, it's only just inaccurate. Numbers are sometimes better. 33% of Americans have college degrees. God bless everybody, it's a lot of hard work, now they have student debt. 43% of African immigrants have college degrees, okay? 11% of white people in America have a graduate people. One-quarter, 25% of Nigerian Americans have a graduate degree. So what is he talking about?

Part of the thing is that when you're relying on just horrible stereotypes -- by the way, Melania Trump, our first lady who I admire greatly, is from Slovenia, not exactly the jewel of Europe. Slovenia. But she's welcome here and Nigerians are not. There's something wrong with the way this president is proceeding.

I don't think anybody here on this panel can defend these kind of comments. If you want to have a conversation about immigration policy, you can have it without insulting whole continents and whole countries, especially when you have African immigrants coming to this country, making America better every day and being disrespected by this president.

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/11/van_jones_on_shitholes_melania_trumps_country_slov enia_not_exactly_the_jewel_of_europe.html

[Dandelion]

Slovenia is actually doing pretty well for an ex-communist country. It only has a high corruption. However, it doesn't compare to Nigeria and especially not to Haiti.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Actually that guy is an uneducated moron, Slovenia is a super picturesque and clean Alpine country, that's why it lives a lot out of tourism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8DlXa_933Y

[Mingle]

I can understand if someone gets triggered over their country being called a 'sh*thole,' but to compare it to Slovenia is just... :lol:

[MysteriousWays]

From what I know, Slovenia is doing pretty well. Best not to rely on Americans' view of European countries... ;)

[Mingle]

Oops, posted this in the Slovakia section :p They have similar names in their native languages.

[cosmoo]

Leaving aside that ignoramous' assessment and GDP-sperging which is about to come in the posts, it should be noted that Slovenes are basically Croats 2.0, a further step in evolution of millennially-long horseshit shoveling for Krauts.

[Sebastianus Rex]

I can understand if someone gets triggered over their country being called a 'sh*thole,' but to compare it to Slovenia is just... :lol:

Yeah, I would say that compared to Slovenia, Nigeria looks like a :icon_ask:... :lightbul: SHITHOLE ! :heh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udcVRBpI9w

http://mycontinent.co/IMGNigeria/Cities/lagos-slums.jpg

[RN97]

I remember that one buddy (when we were messing about just trying to find ethnic insults) he was all about how shitty and fucked up Romania is. When I said that his country (Sri Lanka) is much worse, he literally responded "Yeah, but it's not in Europe so you can't compare, all European countries are better than most non-Euro countries" and that holds true basically. Slovenia might be a poor country compared to Denmark or Switzerland, however compared to the countries Trump alluded to being a "shithole" it is a paradise.
Another thing to note is how Slovenia somehow managed to keep it's allure and flavor in spite of being communist. Romania certainly did not and it's quite sad as it was a lot more beautiful pre WW1 than after WW2 and today.

Leaving aside that ignoramous' assessment and GDP-sperging which is about to come in the posts, it should be noted that Slovenes are basically Croats 2.0, a further step in evolution of millennially-long horseshit shoveling for Krauts.
I've noticed that basically all slavo-magyars that claim central Europe has a sort of a Stockholm syndrome type of relationship with Austrians/ Germans. I also see no reason for why using GDP per capita is not a reasonable measure of living standards. It's not perfect, but it is one of the best. Usually living standards and GDP per capita show a reasonably strong correlation.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Van Jones on 'Shitholes': Melania Trump's Country Slovenia "Not Exactly The Jewel Of Europe"
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: Van Jones, I mean should this come as a surprise to people?

VAN JONES, CNN: Well, I mean it's not only racist, it's only just inaccurate. Numbers are sometimes better. 33% of Americans have college degrees. God bless everybody, it's a lot of hard work, now they have student debt. 43% of African immigrants have college degrees, okay? 11% of white people in America have a graduate people. One-quarter, 25% of Nigerian Americans have a graduate degree. So what is he talking about?

Part of the thing is that when you're relying on just horrible stereotypes -- by the way, Melania Trump, our first lady who I admire greatly, is from Slovenia, not exactly the jewel of Europe. Slovenia. But she's welcome here and Nigerians are not. There's something wrong with the way this president is proceeding.

I don't think anybody here on this panel can defend these kind of comments. If you want to have a conversation about immigration policy, you can have it without insulting whole continents and whole countries, especially when you have African immigrants coming to this country, making America better every day and being disrespected by this president.

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/11/van_jones_on_shitholes_melania_trumps_country_slov enia_not_exactly_the_jewel_of_europe.html

This guy reminds me of Fractal with the same inability to understand simple concepts. That 43% of self selected African immigrants have university degrees doesn't mean Africa's population is full of highly competent people. What it ironically means is competent people leave shitholes for green pastures and if that greener pasture is on the other side of the world the less competent won't be able to get there. It's, um, far harder to make it to the US on boat from Africa than Europe. There is something called 'the Atlantic Ocean' between Africa and the US. Their better off countrymen can afford a plane ticket.

It makes me wonder if people like the author actually think what they say through or is winning 'liberal points' with like minded readers all that matters?

[Crn Volk]

Van Jones

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Vanjonesadvisorforgreenjobs.png/220px-Vanjonesadvisorforgreenjobs.png

He is from Jackson Tennessee, which is a shit hole compared to Slovenia

[kleenex]

I don't know much about Slovenia but I would say that it benefited greatly from it's geographical location.

[Mingle]

Van Jones

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Vanjonesadvisorforgreenjobs.png/220px-Vanjonesadvisorforgreenjobs.png

He is from Jackson Tennessee, which is a shit hole compared to Slovenia

Actually, Tennessee (especially Jacksonville) has a significantly higher GDP per capita than Slovenia.

If Germany or the UK were to join the US, they would be among the poorest states. The Scandinavian countries are the only ones that would have a GDP per capita near the American average with Norway being the only one to significantly surpass the average US GDP per capita. A lot of people underestimate how good the US is.

[Queen B]

Slovenia is doing awesome , actually. Does he really compare it with african countries and south American drug-countries?

[Lucia]

Please someone move this to the Slovenian section :rolleyes:

[Lucia]

Typical American ignorance, unfortunately.

[zhaoyun]

Well, to be fair, the US immigration system is quite selective so even the immigrants who are from "shithole" countries tend to be of the educated elite. That's why the US rarely has issues with legal immigrants.

[Finnish Swede]

For me Finland (my ''main'' home country) is so called ''reference'' or 0-level (as living here). I would still not call it as a good country...just ok.
And all below of it...?


https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/139021807157066f898f4a0544120668_w640.jpg.

https://i2.wp.com/factsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/happiest-countries-in-europe-2017.png

http://factsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/most-and-least-happy-countries-in-the-world.png

https://i0.wp.com/factsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/population-below-poverty-line-in-european-countries-1.png

https://bbj.hu/images2/201708/15033298924274EMU47nzToa2O_O.jpg

https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nuts2-tertiary-education-30-34.jpg

[Magnolia]

Well, I remember few years ago "all" Americans (include an American politician) wanted to bombard Czech R because CNN and other media mistook CzR for Chechnya.
I have no illusion about their knowledge about Europe/world. But I don't know why are you surprised by that claiming because most WE people would be able to say about Slovenia the same thing.

Still the core of the problem is somewhere else - politicians (no need to mention the US president) shouldn't use expressions of internet haters/fighters, etc. for any country in the world.

[Mingle]

Well, I remember few years ago "all" Americans (include an American politician) wanted to bombard Czech R because CNN and other media mistake CzR for Chechnya.
I have no illusion about their knowledge about Europe/world. But I don't know why are you surprised by that claiming because most WE people would able to say about Slovenia the same thing.

Still the core of the problem is somewhere else - politicians (no need to mention the US president) shouldn't use expressions of internet haters/fighters, etc. for no country in the world.

It was just a couple of retards on Twitter that wanted to bomb the Czech Republic. Many of them even used the term 'Czechoslovakia' because they didn't know about the split. They were laughed at later. Did an American politician really say that? Seems hard to believe.

[Finnish Swede]

Well, I remember few years ago "all" Americans (include an American politician) wanted to bombard Czech R because CNN and other media mistake CzR for Chechnya.
I have no illusion about their knowledge about Europe/world.


Bush: Africa is a poor country.

LOL. Only in USA (president).

[Mingle]

Well, to be fair, the US immigration system is quite selective so even the immigrants who are from "shithole" countries tend to be of the educated elite. That's why the US rarely has issues with legal immigrants.

Can you move this to the Slovenia section? xD

[Magnolia]

It was just a couple of retards on Twitter that wanted to bomb the Czech Republic. Many of them even used the term 'Czechoslovakia' because they didn't know about the split. They were laughed at later. Did an American politician really say that? Seems hard to believe.

Well, it happened in 2013 so I didn't remember it exactly. I checked old articles and it wasn't a politician but a former CIA agent ... maybe even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RvSTiM3Yk

edit. it was said by a political too... her name is Sarah Palin
https://1zsel1aikgw52moc2iv0mm13-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/B_Image_3900-350x251.jpg

[Peterski]

Slovenia is actually doing pretty well for an ex-communist country. It only has a high corruption. However, it doesn't compare to Nigeria and especially not to Haiti.

Slovenia must be worse than all the countries refugees are coming from?:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8bvsNTPzQ

[Vojnik]

Worst comparison ever. But what else do you expect from a dumb social justice warrior leftist like Jones.

[Ülev]

Povsod, kamor seže pogled,

lepota zasanjana, kje najti še lepši je svet,

kje lepše je kot doma?

Se s hribov v daljavo zazrem prek gričev, dolin, gora,

v daljavi še modro morje uzrem,

kje lepše je kot doma?

Slovenija - od kod lepote tvoje?

Pozdravljamo te iz srca in srečni tu smo doma,

Slovenija - naj tebi pesem poje,

ne išči sreče drugod kot le doma.

Povej še oblaček ti bel,

obhodil že ves si svet.

Je lepša dežela še kje,

kot naša kjer sem doma?

Je vetrič veselo zavel,

preletel je prek sveta.

In takih lepot ni našel nikjer,

kot tule, kjer sem doma.

Slovenija - naj tebi pesem poje,

ne išči sreče drugod kot le doma.




https://youtu.be/Pl1nd_Lzwyc

Slovenia, whence thy beauty?

As far as the eye can see,
there is dreamy beauty,
where is a more beautiful world to be found,
is there a place more wondrous than home?

From the mountains I gaze into the distance,
over the hills, the valleys, the mountain peaks,
in the distance, I see the blue sea.
Is there a place more wondrous than home?

CHORUS:
Slovenia, whence thy beauty?
We hail you from our hearts,
and we are happy here where our home is.

Slovenia, this is a song for you,
do not seek happiness anywhere else but at home.

Tell me, white puffy cloud,
you have been around the world;
is there a land more beautiful
than the one where we live?

The wind sang a happy song,
it has blown across the world,
but nowhere has it seen such splendour
as here where my home is.

[Vojnik]

Povsod, kamor seže pogled,

lepota zasanjana, kje najti še lepši je svet,

kje lepše je kot doma?

Se s hribov v daljavo zazrem prek gričev, dolin, gora,

v daljavi še modro morje uzrem,

kje lepše je kot doma?

Slovenija - od kod lepote tvoje?

Pozdravljamo te iz srca in srečni tu smo doma,

Slovenija - naj tebi pesem poje,

ne išči sreče drugod kot le doma.

Povej še oblaček ti bel,

obhodil že ves si svet.

Je lepša dežela še kje,

kot naša kjer sem doma?

Je vetrič veselo zavel,

preletel je prek sveta.

In takih lepot ni našel nikjer,

kot tule, kjer sem doma.

Slovenija - naj tebi pesem poje,

ne išči sreče drugod kot le doma.




https://youtu.be/Pl1nd_Lzwyc

Slovenia, whence thy beauty?

As far as the eye can see,
there is dreamy beauty,
where is a more beautiful world to be found,
is there a place more wondrous than home?

From the mountains I gaze into the distance,
over the hills, the valleys, the mountain peaks,
in the distance, I see the blue sea.
Is there a place more wondrous than home?

CHORUS:
Slovenia, whence thy beauty?
We hail you from our hearts,
and we are happy here where our home is.

Slovenia, this is a song for you,
do not seek happiness anywhere else but at home.

Tell me, white puffy cloud,
you have been around the world;
is there a land more beautiful
than the one where we live?

The wind sang a happy song,
it has blown across the world,
but nowhere has it seen such splendour
as here where my home is.


Slovenians, Nigerians brother nations. Same people.

[rhiannon]

Well, it happened in 2013 so I didn't remember it exactly. I checked old articles and it wasn't a politician but a former CIA agent ... maybe even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RvSTiM3Yk

edit. it was said by a political too... her name is Sarah Palin
https://1zsel1aikgw52moc2iv0mm13-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/B_Image_3900-350x251.jpg

I live about 15 mins away from Sarah Palin. She's from Wasilla, Alaska and we are in Palmer, Alaska right next to the Wasilla border.

[Kamal900]

Trump isn't really wrong in regards calling these countries as shithole nations, but the scope is much more wider than those countries and regions, yes.

[Trilecce]

Van Jones on 'Shitholes': Melania Trump's Country Slovenia "Not Exactly The Jewel Of Europe"
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: Van Jones, I mean should this come as a surprise to people?

VAN JONES, CNN: Well, I mean it's not only racist, it's only just inaccurate. Numbers are sometimes better. 33% of Americans have college degrees. God bless everybody, it's a lot of hard work, now they have student debt. 43% of African immigrants have college degrees, okay? 11% of white people in America have a graduate people. One-quarter, 25% of Nigerian Americans have a graduate degree. So what is he talking about?

Part of the thing is that when you're relying on just horrible stereotypes -- by the way, Melania Trump, our first lady who I admire greatly, is from Slovenia, not exactly the jewel of Europe. Slovenia. But she's welcome here and Nigerians are not. There's something wrong with the way this president is proceeding.

I don't think anybody here on this panel can defend these kind of comments. If you want to have a conversation about immigration policy, you can have it without insulting whole continents and whole countries, especially when you have African immigrants coming to this country, making America better every day and being disrespected by this president.

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/11/van_jones_on_shitholes_melania_trumps_country_slov enia_not_exactly_the_jewel_of_europe.html

Dude, Slovenia is the most succesfull ex-communist country in Europe.

[Dandelion]

Slovenia must be worse than all the countries refugees are coming from?:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8bvsNTPzQ

In Eastern Europe people have to work as hard as the natives. They obviously don't want any of that. :p

It's sad how mainstream people genuinely pretend they don't know whether they prefer to live in Haiti or Norway and even shed crocodile tears over Trump's bigotry, while their tears would have been real ones were they to have been dropped in Haiti and told they live there from now.

And even European politicians saying the people in the video are trash who you shouldn't want coming to your society, which they are, would be making a terrible faux-pas.

[Dandelion]

For me Finland (my ''main'' home country) is so called ''reference'' or 0-level (as living here). I would still not call it as a good country...just ok.
And all below of it...?


https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/139021807157066f898f4a0544120668_w640.jpg.


The Netherlands would also be good, despite being slightly below Finland, right? Belgium would just 'okay', however, if they only were to have taken the Flemish Region we'd be at the Dutch level or higher I think as show the other maps.

[Abdelnour]

I can't stand Van Jones. He blames Trump becoming President as a Whitelash, yet is married to white women and has mulatto kids.

[Gold-Shekel]

Slovenia is actually doing pretty well for an ex-communist country. It only has a high corruption. However, it doesn't compare to Nigeria and especially not to Haiti.

The situation isn't that great for Slovenes though. Life isn't cheap (with apartments costing more than in Belgium for example), salaries aren't that huge and Slovene employers have a tendency to hire Bosnians and Serbians over people who have the Slovenian citizenship. Sure it is better than other ex-Yugoslav nations but it didn't have a war and their country was already well developped in Yugoslav times, plus direct proximity with High standards nations helps.

[Dandelion]

I can't stand Van Jones. He blames Trump becoming President as a Whitelash, yet is married to white women and has mulatto kids.

I didn't even realise he was black. Now I remember who he is. He's 'that guy' from that infamous quote. Sad many people can't obsess about race and their own complexes like that.

[idioteque]

This guy reminds me of Fractal with the same inability to understand simple concepts. That 43% of self selected African immigrants have university degrees doesn't mean Africa's population is full of highly competent people. What it ironically means is competent people leave shitholes for green pastures and if that greener pasture is on the other side of the world the less competent won't be able to get there. It's, um, far harder to make it to the US on boat from Africa than Europe. There is something called 'the Atlantic Ocean' between Africa and the US. Their better off countrymen can afford a plane ticket.

It makes me wonder if people like the author actually think what they say through or is winning 'liberal points' with like minded readers all that matters?

Great point.

[Autrigón]

Well, it happened in 2013 so I didn't remember it exactly. I checked old articles and it wasn't a politician but a former CIA agent ... maybe even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RvSTiM3Yk

edit. it was said by a political too... her name is Sarah Palin
https://1zsel1aikgw52moc2iv0mm13-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/B_Image_3900-350x251.jpgDon't be so hard with her, sometimes in the morning during breakfast everybody have the necessity to invade Czech Republic.

[Finnish Swede]

The Netherlands would also be good, despite being slightly below Finland, right? Belgium would just 'okay', however, if they only were to have taken the Flemish Region we'd be at the Dutch level or higher I think as show the other maps.

Except I did't say Finland would be good. Nope, it's ok (maximum)...for me. Same goes with Netherlands.
Yup...I have hard scale, I know.

[Dandelion]

Except I did't say Finland would be good. Nope, it's ok (maximum)...for me. Same goes with Netherlands.
Yup...I have hard scale, I know.

An attitude that works I think. Never set the bar too low. It's actually your motto here as per your previous signature. Keep seeking out challenges in life in order to improve.

[KMack]

Van Jones on 'Shitholes': Melania Trump's Country Slovenia "Not Exactly The Jewel Of Europe"
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: Van Jones, I mean should this come as a surprise to people?

VAN JONES, CNN: Well, I mean it's not only racist, it's only just inaccurate. Numbers are sometimes better. 33% of Americans have college degrees. God bless everybody, it's a lot of hard work, now they have student debt. 43% of African immigrants have college degrees, okay? 11% of white people in America have a graduate people. One-quarter, 25% of Nigerian Americans have a graduate degree. So what is he talking about?

Part of the thing is that when you're relying on just horrible stereotypes -- by the way, Melania Trump, our first lady who I admire greatly, is from Slovenia, not exactly the jewel of Europe. Slovenia. But she's welcome here and Nigerians are not. There's something wrong with the way this president is proceeding.

I don't think anybody here on this panel can defend these kind of comments. If you want to have a conversation about immigration policy, you can have it without insulting whole continents and whole countries, especially when you have African immigrants coming to this country, making America better every day and being disrespected by this president.

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/11/van_jones_on_shitholes_melania_trumps_country_slov enia_not_exactly_the_jewel_of_europe.html

Most African immigrants to the USA will tell you their former country is a chithole, that is why they left. What does getting a college degree have to do with anything? Nobody said a person is chithole anyhow. I know lots of blue collar people who make over 100K, never went to college and I know college grads with 80-100K student loan debt.

[KMack]

Well, to be fair, the US immigration system is quite selective so even the immigrants who are from "shithole" countries tend to be of the educated elite. That's why the US rarely has issues with legal immigrants.

Especially Nigeria, yeah a few taxi drivers, but a lot in the medical professions. We get a lot of their best people.

[KMack]

I can't stand Van Jones. He blames Trump becoming President as a Whitelash, yet is married to white women and has mulatto kids.
And is leftist radical commie. Easy to claim this you want this when you make good money.

[zhaoyun]

Especially Nigeria, yeah a few taxi drivers, but a lot in the medical professions. We get a lot of their best people.

There aren't many Nigerians in the US, but the ones that are here are among the most educated ones, so they are definitely not trash like some people here might think. A lot of them are well educated, successful and live in good neighborhoods.

Although, there are also a few trying to sell you a fake Rolex in Times Square. LOL

[TeutonicBoyars]

Well, I remember few years ago "all" Americans (include an American politician) wanted to bombard Czech R because CNN and other media mistook CzR for Chechnya.
I have no illusion about their knowledge about Europe/world. But I don't know why are you surprised by that claiming because most WE people would be able to say about Slovenia the same thing.

Still the core of the problem is somewhere else - politicians (no need to mention the US president) shouldn't use expressions of internet haters/fighters, etc. for any country in the world.

Holy shit I remember that lol. Wasn't it that Chechen kid that tried to blow up a race in Boston? Funniest thing was that Americans said he was from the "Check" Republic.

[Peterski]

"Check" Republic is quite irrelevant for an average American. The only two European countries located east of Germany that every American knows about, are Russia and Poland. Most of them never heard of Slovenia or Czechia.

[JohnSmith]

Why does he have to pull down another country to that level. He should use facts to express his thoughts.