View Full Version : Marcelo Camelo exotic white or Brazilian mongrel?
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 12:41 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UwXSvCVBdX0/Tf2BDf0f9RI/AAAAAAAAAhg/wQJHwrM3RHk/s1600/marcelo+camelo+por+caroline+bittencourt+0001.JPG
http://www.irdeb.ba.gov.br/multicultura/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/9f7ccb59f9443c35fa098beeb42d3fa2.jpg
https://confiramais.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/marceo-camelo-img.jpg
Hes married with Mallu Magalhães(clearly white), look at their daughter
http://fotos.caras.uol.com.br/media/images/raw/2015/12/29/img-707404-nasce-primeira-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo20151229101451390933.jpg
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 12:42 PM
Ive already told he looks Iberian to me
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222707-Classify-Brazilian-singer-Marcelo-Camelo
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 12:46 PM
Ive already told he looks Iberian to me
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222707-Classify-Brazilian-singer-Marcelo-Camelo
Well, you think also that Beyonce is a good singer :laugh:
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 12:47 PM
Looks Jewish.
Zroota
02-02-2018, 12:56 PM
Without knowing his nationality, I would've thought that he is Arabid or Berid.
Well, you think also that Beyonce is a good singer :laugh:
She can sing pretty well, but she uses her voice for horrible music. ;)
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 12:58 PM
Well, you think also that Beyonce is a good singer :laugh:
She is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pai1C2dsd3M
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 12:58 PM
Looks Jewish.
But he has no jew ancestry. Hes colonial Brazilian.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:00 PM
Without knowing his nationality, I would've thought that he is Arabid or Berid.
She can sing pretty well, but she uses her voice for horrible music. ;)
Beyoncé is Coloratura Mezzo-Soprano (4 Octaves). CV prob dont even know what soprano is.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:06 PM
But he has no jew ancestry. Hes colonial Brazilian.
So I say you the same; he is not Iberian, as you claimed.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:07 PM
Beyoncé is Coloratura Mezzo-Soprano (4 Octaves). CV prob dont even know what soprano is.
I know
http://is2.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music69/v4/c6/d2/fd/c6d2fd43-850c-c0ca-2d49-ef42061f692c/source/1200x630bb.jpg
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:07 PM
So I say you the same; he is not Iberian, as you claimed.
Marcelo de Souza Camelo
Iberian surname.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:09 PM
Marcelo de Souza Camelo
Iberian surname.
first, I dont know if Camelo is Portuguese. Spanish is not, for sure.
second, Morales is a Spanish surname but Evo Morales is not Iberian, you retard.
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 01:10 PM
first, I dont know if Camelo is Portuguese. Spanish is not, for sure.
Google says it is Italian.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:10 PM
first, I dont know if Camelo is Portuguese. Spanish is not, for sure.
second, Morales is a Spanish surname but Evo Morales is not Iberian, you retard.
De souza is a Iberian surname. Marcelo would score a lot of Iberian ancestry.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:12 PM
De souza is a Iberian surname. Marcelo would score a lot of Iberian ancestry.
Scoring a lot of Iberian ancestry does not make him Iberian, you retard.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:12 PM
Google says it is Italian.
More in my favour.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:15 PM
More in my favour.
Camelo also exist in Portuguese language. It mean this animal
https://abrilmundoestranho.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/camelo_competencias_experiencia_habilidade.jpg?qua lity=70&strip=all&strip=info
And hes from Rio de janeiro. A State and city with little Italian influence, almost none influence at all. Rio is colonial Iberian, with black(Rio de Janeiro is the Brazilian city where most received slaves) and native influence.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:16 PM
^ cool story to hide your epic fail with the origin of that surname :laugh:
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:18 PM
^ cool story to hide your epic fail with the origin of that surname :laugh:
Not a cool story. Same thing as the surname Grande. Could be Italian, Portuguese and Spanish. In his case is colonial Iberian and im sure since hes from Rio de janeiro. Italians are mostly 98% in the south, or São Paulo. Also it doesnt mater since his another surname Souza is Iberian. Full Italian Brazilian wouldnt look that way.
He probably inherited the souza from some colonial tri-racial.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 01:20 PM
^ blablabla, Camelo does not exist in Iberia as surname, stop inventing pathetic stories.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 01:22 PM
^ blablabla, Camelo does not exist in Iberia as surname, stop inventing pathetic stories.
http://www.namespedia.com/image/Camelo_surname.jpg
:rolleyes:
And even if it was Italian, he does not look Italian. The mongrel Brazilian phenotype side certainly comes from the souza family, since most mongrels in this country has Iberian surnames.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 04:11 PM
http://www.namespedia.com/image/Camelo_surname.jpg
That graphic proves the surname is Italian. Thanks for posting.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:20 PM
That graphic proves the surname is Italian. Thanks for posting.
more common in portugal than italy it says
you cant understand graphics lol
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 04:22 PM
http://www.namespedia.com/image/Camelo_surname.jpg
:rolleyes:
And even if it was Italian, he does not look Italian. The mongrel Brazilian phenotype side certainly comes from the souza family, since most mongrels in this country has Iberian surnames.
He looks more like ''South Italian'' than like Portuguese. He looks Jewish and many South Italians can approach the Jewish look. But I suppose he would pass as Portuguese too.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:27 PM
He looks more like ''South Italian'' than like Portuguese. He looks Jewish and many South Italians can approach the Jewish looks. But I suppose he would pass as Portuguese too.
he was classificated as tri racial
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222707-Classify-Brazilian-singer-Marcelo-Camelo
and camelo is a portuguese word
his surname souza is portuguese as well
barkoo
02-02-2018, 04:28 PM
cross between but he looks more like a Spanish Jew mongrel imo.
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-02-2018, 04:30 PM
He looks more like ''South Italian'' than like Portuguese. He looks Jewish and many South Italians can approach the Jewish look. But I suppose he would pass as Portuguese too.
That guy would be exotic in Portugal.
http://s2.glbimg.com/IK5EMRjZ_rw347rSVpnmS3ad8v0=/300x190/filters:quality(80)/s2.glbimg.com/65zCEQ1aV6LV9uPa242CGBah-BA=/300x187/g.glbimg.com/og/gs/gsat4/f/thumbs/materia/2014/03/19/marcelocamelo.jpg
This is not a common look among Portuguese people at all.
I am not aware of Camelo being a Portuguese surname but if it is, it is extremely rare. Camelo is used as an insult in here.
His Portuguese look-a-like version would look more like this, without the hooked nose:
http://www.just.pt/models/125/3.jpg
Or this:
https://www.noticiasdecoimbra.pt/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/miguelaraujo1.jpg
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 04:30 PM
he was classificated as tri racial
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?222707-Classify-Brazilian-singer-Marcelo-Camelo
and camelo is a portuguese word
his surname souza is portuguese as well
He is more European shifted than a typical Triracial, no? When I think about Triracial someone like Neymar pops up. Neymar couldn't pass in Europe or in West Asia/Middle East, for example. This Camelo guy looks Jewish.
Sacrificed Ram
02-02-2018, 04:33 PM
https://confiramais.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/marceo-camelo-img.jpg
Jesus!
http://assets4.bigthink.com/system/idea_thumbnails/60292/size_1024/big-think-jesus-christ.jpg?1450556587
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 04:34 PM
more common in portugal than italy it says
you cant understand graphics lol
It is you who can not understand it. If exists in Portugal is because Brazilians, stupid.
No excuses to find it in Italy, It is clear that is Italian.
alnortedelsur
02-02-2018, 04:37 PM
De souza is a Iberian surname. Marcelo would score a lot of Iberian ancestry.
But he is far from passing as full Iberian, stupid mulatto do favela.
Erronkari
02-02-2018, 04:40 PM
I would interested to know if that guy pass as romani... what do you think?:confused:
Boiorix
02-02-2018, 04:41 PM
Mongrel. Nose and lips are telling the truth.
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 04:44 PM
But he is far from passing as full Iberian, stupid mulatto do favela.
I searched for his name on Google and he isn't that exotic:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1IeBL7AIN0w/UL5RIdZ1qoI/AAAAAAAABtI/YD2d8jRMf5A/s1600/marcelo-camelo-04f27.jpg
http://www.planocritico.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/los-600x400.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/semtedio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Marcelo_Camelo.jpg
I actually think he can pass.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:45 PM
But he is far from passing as full Iberian, stupid mulatto do favela.
da* are u mad? nervousness and anger causes cancer, is proven.
you're already old, careful not to die a virgin
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:46 PM
It is you who can not understand it. If exists in Portugal is because Brazilians, stupid.
No excuses to find it in Italy, It is clear that is Italian.
:picard1:
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:48 PM
He is more European shifted than a typical Triracial, no? When I think about Triracial someone like Neymar pops up. Neymar couldn't pass in Europe or in West Asia/Middle East, for example. This Camelo guy looks Jewish.
Idc. TA experts said so. Anyway, his parents
https://revistatrip.uol.com.br/dados/_imgBank/trip-188-paginasnegras-11.jpg
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 04:49 PM
:picard1:
Not my fault that you dont have a brain.
It is funny checking how you try to fled forwards with your epic Italian fail-surname :lol:
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:49 PM
According to his mother Camelo is a Portuguese surname.
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:50 PM
Not my fault that you dont have a brain.
It is funny checking how you try to fled forwards with your epic Italian fail-surname :lol:
According to his mother Camelo is a Portuguese surname.
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 04:50 PM
Idc. TA experts said so. Anyway, his parents
https://revistatrip.uol.com.br/dados/_imgBank/trip-188-paginasnegras-11.jpg
lol
In that pic he looks like a Bedouin, but his parents look Iberian. His little brother (???) also looks pan Southern Euro.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:51 PM
lol
In that pic he looks like a Bedouin, but his parents look Iberian. His little brother (???) also looks pan Southern Euro.
Yes, according to his mother the Camelo family came from Portugal
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
Shes a Souza, btw.
http://revistaglamour.globo.com/Celebridades/noticia/2015/12/nasce-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo.html
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Yes, according to his mother the Camelo family came from Portugal
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
Shes a Souza, btw.
http://revistaglamour.globo.com/Celebridades/noticia/2015/12/nasce-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo.html
His ''exoticness'' and Arab/Jew look probably comes from his Southern European ancestors, his parents don't show SSA admixture at all. But I still think he looks more ''South Italian'' than Portuguese.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 04:56 PM
Camelo(in English is camel) in Italian would be cammello.
Drusilla
02-02-2018, 04:58 PM
He's not good looking.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 04:59 PM
His ''exoticness'' and Arab/Jew look probably comes from his Southern European ancestors,
Yeah, because as everybody knows South Europeans are famous for having Arab/Jewish looks :lol:
Please!!!
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 05:00 PM
Camelo(in English is camel) in Italian would be cammello.
C A M E L O is not a P O R T U G U E S E surname.
What part do you not understand?
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:00 PM
His ''exoticness'' and Arab/Jew look probably comes from his Southern European ancestors, his parents don't show SSA admixture at all. But I still think he looks more ''South Italian'' than Portuguese.
But she just says that her father-in-law last named camelo came from Portugal. We are not sure if Marcelo's family is totally Portuguese. This is unusual in Rio de Janeiro.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:02 PM
C A M E L O is not a P O R T U G U E S E surname.
What part do you not understand?
Marcelo mother:
"My father-in-law was Portuguese and came from tras dos montes
and constituted the camelo family in Brazil"
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
http://revistaglamour.globo.com/Celebridades/noticia/2015/12/nasce-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo.html
Tell me more about that "Italian' :rolleyes:
And it is obvious that her husband has a surname of her father-in-law(and she confirmed in that post, but you dont understand Portuguese), because that's the way things are in Brazil. U didnt know that Camelo also exist in Italy until CrazyCatLady. Your posting nonsense things and i showed you his own family words.
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 05:04 PM
But she just says that her father-in-law last named camelo came from Portugal. We are not sure if Marcelo's family is totally Portuguese. This is unusual in Rio de Janeiro.
I'm going by his parents' phenotype. Also, he isn't that exotic in the pics I found. He is lighter than many Italians/Spaniards/Greeks, the nose makes him unusual (too Armenoid, that's why I said ''Jewish'').
But he could be mixed too, just not substantially.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:07 PM
That guy would be exotic in Portugal.
http://s2.glbimg.com/IK5EMRjZ_rw347rSVpnmS3ad8v0=/300x190/filters:quality(80)/s2.glbimg.com/65zCEQ1aV6LV9uPa242CGBah-BA=/300x187/g.glbimg.com/og/gs/gsat4/f/thumbs/materia/2014/03/19/marcelocamelo.jpg
This is not a common look among Portuguese people at all.
I am not aware of Camelo being a Portuguese surname but if it is, it is extremely rare. Camelo is used as an insult in here.
His Portuguese look-a-like version would look more like this, without the hooked nose:
http://www.just.pt/models/125/3.jpg
Or this:
https://www.noticiasdecoimbra.pt/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/miguelaraujo1.jpg
Its Portuguese according to his mother.
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
http://revistaglamour.globo.com/Celebridades/noticia/2015/12/nasce-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo.html
His grandfather who came from Portugal had the last name camelo according to her.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:15 PM
I'm going by his parents' phenotype. Also, he isn't that exotic in the pics I found. He is lighter than many Italians/Spaniards/Greeks, the nose makes him unusual (too Armenoid, that's why I said ''Jewish'').
But he could be mixed too, just not substantially.
His Portuguese grandfather last named Camelo according to his mother is the only recent Immigrant in their family tree. So, we dont know about his ancestors.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 05:19 PM
Tell me more about that "Italian' :rolleyes:
READ
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
It seems that some branch of this mega-Italian surname finished in Portugal :thumb001:
He is lighter than many Italians/Spaniards/Greeks
:lol:
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:20 PM
READ
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
It seems that some branch of this mega-Italian surname finished in Portugal :thumb001:
:lol:
Idk about you. According to his mother the grandfather last named Camelo came from Portugal.
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 05:24 PM
:lol:
Look at the pics I posted, they are more representative than the ones OP used.
Just two examples, one Italian and other Spaniard:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/21/00/3D78296900000578-0-image-a-43_1487635851256.jpg
http://cdn3-i.hitc-s.com/445/west_ham_uniteds_alvaro_arbeloa_324799.jpg
They look Indian compared to that guy.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 05:30 PM
http://cdn3-i.hitc-s.com/445/west_ham_uniteds_alvaro_arbeloa_324799.jpg
They look Indian compared to that guy.
You could not have chosen a darker picture of him :lol:
http://e00-marca.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/07/06/14992948300965.jpg
https://platform-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p18759.png
http://laronda.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Alvaro-Arbeloa-1.jpg
barkoo
02-02-2018, 05:38 PM
You could not have chosen a darker picture of him :lol:
http://e00-marca.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/07/06/14992948300965.jpg
https://platform-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p18759.png
http://laronda.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Alvaro-Arbeloa-1.jpg
Still very dark couldn't pass in France, as the Camelo's Fernando Morales who looks Iberian with a Jewish hint.
KMack
02-02-2018, 05:45 PM
1/2 caveman 1/2 Tony Kanaan
https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbeyondtheflag.com%2Ffiles% 2F2016%2F10%2F04CJ3499A.jpg&w=850&h=560&c=sc
alnortedelsur
02-02-2018, 05:53 PM
da* are u mad? nervousness and anger causes cancer, is proven.
you're already old, careful not to die a virgin
I am as much "old and virgin" as you are a virgin white female of German and North Italian descent.
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 05:54 PM
I am as much "old and virgin" as you are a virgin white female of German and North Italian descent.
:(
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 07:10 PM
Still very dark couldn't pass in France, as the Camelo's Fernando Morales who looks Iberian with a Jewish hint.
Still lighter than you, mongrel maghrebi.
Marinus
02-02-2018, 07:22 PM
He looks Semitic, the beard adds to that, of course.
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 07:24 PM
He looks Semitic, the beard adds to that, of course.
Viriato will love this comment, hahaha
Sacrificed Ram
02-02-2018, 08:40 PM
His only good song (IMO) is "Ana júlia", but he hates this song because he says it was just a work to market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umMIcZODm2k
Remember my adolescence!
He looks Middle Eastern. Not white.
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 09:04 PM
READ
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
It seems that some branch of this mega-Italian surname finished in Portugal :thumb001:
:lol:
Il solito IDIOTA. There is ZERO surname "Camelo" in Italy. Look by yourself
http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani
Cristiano viejo
02-02-2018, 09:16 PM
Il solito IDIOTA. There is ZERO surname "Camelo" in Italy. Look by yourself
http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani
Read the link that I posted, it is very clear and informative.
Plus you have this
https://it.linkedin.com/in/gabrielecamelo
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 09:21 PM
He looks Middle Eastern. Not white.
u claimed tri racial in his classification thread
u claimed tri racial in his classification thread
That's possible, but he ain't white.
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 10:12 PM
Look at the pics I posted, they are more representative than the ones OP used.
Just two examples, one Italian and other Spaniard:
They look Indian compared to that guy.
Fabio Quagliariella not tanned
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Fabio+Quagliarella+Italy+Training+Session+yvmxJT29 6xBl.jpg
and without beard
https://immagini.quotidiano.net/?url=http://p1014p.quotidiano.net:80/polopoly_fs/1.3520649.1510165796!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/wide_680/image.jpg&h=350&w=606
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyDnSPRsABr8i3hIdq94CUS8_L8UdPY ZE3iU5hLo0mSAxqx6Z_Pg
I don't deny that both are dark, but indians are different.....
INDIANS
https://www.ida.org.in/images/slider/Indian-Dental-Association-6.jpg
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 10:13 PM
That's possible, but he ain't white.
Have you seen the pics I posted and the video user ''Sacrificed Ram'' posted?
He doesn't look less white than the average Southern Euro there. Only his Armenoid nose makes him unusual. That's why I said Jewish.
He doesn't look less white than the average Southern Euro there. Only his Armenoid nose makes him unusual. That's why I said Jewish.
Get Sikeliot's opinion, he is an expert on Southern Euros.
CrazyCatLady
02-02-2018, 10:16 PM
I don't deny that both are dark, but indians are different.....
I didn't said he looks Indian, I said he is an Indian compared to the guy on the OP, it was an hyperbole.
In fact Quagliarella and Arbeloa are darker than that guy.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Marcelo_Camelo.jpg/250px-Marcelo_Camelo.jpg
Heather Duval
02-02-2018, 10:24 PM
Get Sikeliot's opinion, he is an expert on Southern Euros.
https://media.indiatimes.in/media/content/2014/Sep/spitting-2_1412088462.gif
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 11:20 PM
Read the link that I posted, it is very clear and informative.
Plus you have this
https://it.linkedin.com/in/gabrielecamelo
I can't open it, the antivirus says that something goes wrong.
The fact that ancient records find a baron Camelo in Sicily does not mean that it is of italian origins. It only means that that guy was a noble and for that was recorded in ancient times.
To find it in Brazil or other american nations could give a possibility that it was italian, but to find it in Spain and Portugal it does not. When italians emigrated to Spain or Portugal? NEVER. Instead it is true the contrary, as Spain was ruling Sicily and could export that surname.... in a lesser extent. Portugal could have been the origin of that surname (first place in Europe) but could also have inherited it from Spain, with whom has Always had relations.
Use your head C.V., not other less noble parts of your body. Thanks.
Anyway here another web: distribution of surname Camelo. It exists in Spain (2nd place in Europe) and France (3rd place in Europe) the winner is Portugal (1st place in Europe), in Italy it exist at a lesser extent (4th place in Europe) and 10th place on 10 in the world, if you look at the end of the page.
http://forebears.io/it/surnames/camelo
by the way, I would not mind if this guy would be of italian descent. But I like more to state the truth. And this guy does not look italian at all.
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 11:26 PM
I didn't said he looks Indian, I said he is an Indian compared to the guy on the OP, it was an hyperbole.
In fact Quagliarella and Arbeloa are darker than that guy.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Marcelo_Camelo.jpg/250px-Marcelo_Camelo.jpg
Infact I was referring to Quagliariella and the other spanish guy when I've written "I don't deny that they both are dark, but indians are different"
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 11:38 PM
And by the way, in this last photo, Camelo looks very iberian. What's wrong with him? I think that the first photos posted are the worst he has ever made of himself. If you Google Marcelo Camelo, many photos of him come out, where he is not so ugly nor so strange looking. In my opinion he resembles his mother.
As to his nose, that is not a dinarid nose. I don't know how that nose can be defined. I'm not an expert. If someone says he can be jew, there is that possibility, as jews were expelled (not all, as well as in Spain) also from Portugal.
Many jews went to America. I know a certain number that are clearly jews and live for example in Brazil, like Felipe Massa, who is of Puglia (Southern Italy) descent and whose surname "Massa" is referring to a tuscan city. The italian hebrews (expelled from Iberia) have very known precise surnames, one of the characteristics is to be named as the city where they were living. So you can find "Rimini", "Milano", "Ferrara", "Mentana" and probably Massa as well.
Maybe I am wrong, but the diaspora regarded partly Europe (in Italy they went to Ferrara, Livorno, Venice and few to Rome), then in Greece, in Morocco, in Holland, Poland, France and finally in Istanbul where a very big sephardi community lives still today.
Longobarda
02-02-2018, 11:42 PM
Get Sikeliot's opinion, he is an expert on Southern Euros.
He is not. Believe me
CrazyCatLady
02-03-2018, 12:04 AM
And by the way, in this last photo, Camelo looks very iberian. What's wrong with him? I think that the first photos posted are the worst he has ever made of himself. If you Google Marcelo Camelo, many photos of him come out, where he is not so ugly nor so strange looking. In my opinion he resembles his mother.
That was my thought, I googled him to see if he is Jewish and the other pics I saw were much less exotic than the ones OP used.
When I said he could pass as South Italian or Portuguese I was basing myself in these other photos I found googling him.
User ''Sacrificed Ram'' posted a video in which this guy doesn't look ''exotic'' at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umMIcZODm2k
He is likely Jewish/Sephardi, he does look very Sephardic but could also pass for Ashkenazi and Mizrahim.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1IeBL7AIN0w/UL5RIdZ1qoI/AAAAAAAABtI/YD2d8jRMf5A/s1600/marcelo-camelo-04f27.jpg
Sacrificed Ram
02-03-2018, 01:40 AM
Camelo can come from Camillo and it is from Italy.
Any black street beggar in Brazil claims templar ancestry, then I don't discuss about translation from Italy to Iberia.
Heather Duval
02-03-2018, 01:57 AM
Camelo can come from Camillo and it is from Italy.
Any black street beggar in Brazil claims templar ancestry, then I don't discuss about translation from Italy to Iberia.
Nope, came from Portugal according to his mother
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
Sacrificed Ram
02-03-2018, 02:55 AM
Nope, came from Portugal according to his mother.
I'm talking about a migration from Italy to Iberia one thousand years ago.
I have an italian greatgrandmother with french like surname and other with arab surname, there are an interchange of surnames in Europe.
ÁGUIA
02-03-2018, 04:00 AM
Camelo is a portuguese surname, though scant.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)
Judging by his looks, Marcelo looks what he is. Mostly Portuguese with some other non european mixture. He has a distinct appearance.
His wife however trully looks portuguese, they live in Lisbon btw.
aherne
02-03-2018, 04:27 AM
Looks Indid + Iberian.
Decius
02-03-2018, 07:26 AM
Not really white .
Sacrificed Ram
02-03-2018, 09:34 AM
I'm watching a video about germans on another thread, I thought he could be an Atlantomed-Bell Beaker, a not very common, but a type that still exists in Iberia.
Heather Duval
02-03-2018, 10:15 AM
Camelo is a portuguese surname, though scant.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)
Judging by his looks, Marcelo looks what he is. Mostly Portuguese with some other non european mixture. He has a distinct appearance.
His wife however trully looks portuguese, they live in Lisbon btw.
yes
cariocas are mostly iberian with some non euro mix
" A herança portuguesa está registrada também na genética de 90% dos moradores do Rio de Janeiro. Mesmo entre negros, a origem europeia é maioria."
https://www.terra.com.br/noticias/ciencia/dna-do-carioca-e-europeu-aponta-pesquisa-da-uerj,9318b801069ea310VgnCLD200000bbcceb0aRCRD.html
hes from jacarepagua
ive been to there and most people there are mixed
but he got an portuguese great grandpa
we dont know the rest of his ancestry
Cristiano viejo
02-03-2018, 01:26 PM
I can't open it, the antivirus says that something goes wrong.
Dont worry, read :rolleyes:
CAMELO HISTORY, FAMILY CREST & COAT OF ARMS
Early origins of the Camelo family
The surname Camelo was found first in Rome (Italian: Roma), the capital of the Kingdom of Italy. Little can be said in the space available which would do justice to the history is a book of life itself. The buildings, culture, art, cathedrals, churches, museum galleries hold untold treasures unequalled anywhere else in the world. In these ancient times only persons the rank, the podesta, clergy, city officials, army officers, artists, landowners were entered into the records. To be recorded at this time, at the beginning of recorded history, was of itself a great distinction and indicative of noble ancestry.
Camelo spelling variations
Spelling variations of this family name include: Escamilla, Camilla, Camille, Escamille, Camillia, Ezcamilla and many more.
Migration of the Camelo family to the New World and Oceana
Some of the first settlers of this family of this family name or some of its variants were: Salvatore Camilla, who arrived to New York in 1887 aboard the "Chandernagor", Nunzio Camillis, who arrived to New York in 1891, aboard the "Dania"; Angelo Camillo, who was naturalized in Illinois in 1900.
Contemporary notables of the name Camelo (post 1700)
Carlos Filipe Camelo, Portuguese president of Seia, Portugal
Marcelo de Souza Camelo (b.1978), Brazilian composer, singer, guitarist, and poet
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
The fact that ancient records find a baron Camelo in Sicily does not mean that it is of italian origins. It only means that that guy was a noble and for that was recorded in ancient times.
To find it in Brazil or other american nations could give a possibility that it was italian, but to find it in Spain and Portugal it does not. When italians emigrated to Spain or Portugal? NEVER.
Italians to Spain NEVER????????? :picard1:
It is you who has to use the brain, it is clear that Camelo could arrive to Portugal for two ways, via Italia and via Brazilian immigrants with Italian ancestry. Damn, even in the link that I posted they name this Brazilian singer, relating him with the Italian surname :thumb001:
Another example, this Italian, that you seemed to conveniently obviate :rolleyes:
(I hope you can open this link) :laugh:
Gabrielle Camelo
Filmmaker presso TV2000
Roma, Italia
Attuale
TV2000, Varie
Precedente
marechiarofilm, Rai, Istituto San Francesco - Suore Francescane Alcantarine
Formazione
Università degli studi de L'Aquila
https://media-exp2.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/1/000/08f/31e/31caae1.jpg
https://it.linkedin.com/in/gabrielecamelo
Anyway here another web: distribution of surname Camelo. It exists in Spain (2nd place in Europe) and France (3rd place in Europe) the winner is Portugal (1st place in Europe), in Italy it exist at a lesser extent (4th place in Europe) and 10th place on 10 in the world, if you look at the end of the page.
http://forebears.io/it/surnames/camelo
Stop with your shit, Camelo is not a Spanish surname.
And this guy does not look italian at all.
And by the way, in this last photo, Camelo looks very iberian.
And to me he looks very Italian.
Camelo can come from Camillo and it is from Italy.
Any black street beggar in Brazil claims templar ancestry, then I don't discuss about translation from Italy to Iberia.
:thumb001:
Latinus
02-03-2018, 04:09 PM
He is just ugly.
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 05:33 PM
Dont worry, read :rolleyes:
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
Italians to Spain NEVER????????? :picard1:
It is you who has to use the brain, it is clear that Camelo could arrive to Portugal for two ways, via Italia and via Brazilian immigrants with Italian ancestry. Damn, even in the link that I posted they name this Brazilian singer, relating him with the Italian surname :thumb001:
Another example, this Italian, that you seemed to conveniently obviate :rolleyes:
(I hope you can open this link) :laugh:
Gabrielle Camelo
Filmmaker presso TV2000
Roma, Italia
Attuale
TV2000, Varie
Precedente
marechiarofilm, Rai, Istituto San Francesco - Suore Francescane Alcantarine
Formazione
Università degli studi de L'Aquila
https://media-exp2.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/1/000/08f/31e/31caae1.jpg
https://it.linkedin.com/in/gabrielecamelo
Stop with your shit, Camelo is not a Spanish surname.
And to me he looks very Italian.
:thumb001:
As usual you use whatever source to demonstrate something which is so evident. In this case you use: a) an american file to explain what "could" have happened to people named Camelo (NAME WHICH HAS NO SENSE IN ITALIAN). Camelo is how Spain and Portugal call the camel (the animal) not the italian way.
Second, I repeat it again and again that generally a surname is anciently recorded a) if a person has some relevance b) if a person is a noble. A noble sicilian called "Camelo" has been recorded and the ignorant americans state that if a Camelo was recorded in Sicily that means the surname is italian? In Italy we have also LOPEZ or AYALA recoreded but are SPANISH surnames. So what??
THE ONLY FACT IS that the surname Camelo exists at least in 10 countries (Italy included) and that ITALY IS THE LAST ONE in frequency of that surname. Spain has THE DOUBLE frequency and Portugal is the first, being France the third. SO WHAT?? Don't you think that if that surname was italian we should have been the FIRST to have it in our country????
Please, use your BRAIN if you have one.
Salem523
02-03-2018, 05:39 PM
Pass in MENA as Arab even...
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 05:40 PM
B.T.W. Italians NEVER EMIGRATED TO SPAIN OR PORTUGAL. N E V E R
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 05:45 PM
Camelo is a portuguese surname, though scant.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)
Judging by his looks, Marcelo looks what he is. Mostly Portuguese with some other non european mixture. He has a distinct appearance.
His wife however trully looks portuguese, they live in Lisbon btw.
But Cristiano Viejo, stone headed, insists that he is italian........ BECAUSE HE WANTS. If Camelo would have been good-looking, just in that case he would have been SPANISH.... BECAUSE HE WANTS
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 05:48 PM
Camelo (apelido)Origem: Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre.
Ir para: navegação (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#mw-head), pesquisa (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#p-search)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Camelo.png/200px-Camelo.png (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:Camelo.png)
Armas da Família Camelo
Camelo é um apelido de família (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobrenome) cuja origem é anterior ao século XV (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9culo_XV) e encontra-se ligado ao apelido (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apelido) da família Cunha (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cunha_(apelido)&action=edit&redlink=1) visto descender de um ramo desta família.
Índice [esconder]
1 Genealogia Familiar (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#Genealogia_Familiar)
2 Heráldica Familiar (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#Heráldica_Familiar)
3 Referências (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#Referências)
4 Ver também (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelo_(apelido)#Ver_também)
Genealogia Familiar[editar (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&veaction=edit§ion=1) | editar código-fonte (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&action=edit§ion=1)]Segundo os Genealogistas (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogista), este apelido provém da pessoa de D. Gonçalo Martins da Cunha (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gon%C3%A7alo_Martins_da_Cunha), "O Camelo", que era filho de D. Martim Lourenço da Cunha (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martim_Louren%C3%A7o_da_Cunha) e de sua mulher, D. Sancha Garcia da Penha.
Apesar de nos seus alvores esta família não ter tido grande poder económico, e mesmo ter estado com algum declínio social, vieram a atingir uma confortável e sólida posição sócio económica entre as principais famílias de Portugal (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal) como atesta a nobiliárquica (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobreza) do século XV (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9culo_XV).
Foi a D. Lopo Rodrigues Camelo, então a exercer o cargo de escrivão (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escriv%C3%A3o) da Câmara (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A2mara) e Cavaleiro (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavaleiro) da Casa de D. Sebastião de Portugal (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebasti%C3%A3o_de_Portugal), que este rei concedeu, corria o ano de 1576 (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/1576), novas Armas de Brasão (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras%C3%A3o), pelo facto de D. Lopo lhe ter salvo a vida, quando estiveram em via de se afogar ao atravessarem um curso de água (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curso_de_%C3%A1gua) durante uma viagem que fazia na companhia daquele monarca de Odemira (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odemira) para a cidade de Coimbra (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coimbra).
Uma nota importante obriga a que seja mencionado o facto de haver uma outra origem para alguns ramos da família Camelo, sendo este mais recente e prender-se do provir de uma alcunha (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcunha), uma vez que se designavam por "camelos" os "artilheiros (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artilheiro)" dos pequenos canhões (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canh%C3%A3o) existentes nas naus (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nau) portuguesas.
Heráldica Familiar[editar (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&veaction=edit§ion=2) | editar código-fonte (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&action=edit§ion=2)]As armas da família Cunha, anterior ao século XV, influenciaram as da família Camelo. Sendo de prata (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prata), tem três conchas de vieiras (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vieira_(molusco)) de cor azul realçadas a ouro (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouro). Por Timbre (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre), tem uma cabeça e pescoço de camelo, da sua cor.
A Lopo Rodrigues Camelo (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lopo_Rodrigues_Camelo), e visto a concessão de novas armas por D. Sebastião I de Portugal (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebasti%C3%A3o_I_de_Portugal), tem por armas de Brasão (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras%C3%A3o): De cor de verde, uma ribeira ondeada cor de prata e aguada em cor de azul, posta numa faixa, e dois braços com as mãos dadas moventes do ângulo da dextra do chefe, o primeiro vestido de ouro e com a palavra REY a negro, e o outro vestido de azul e sainte do bordo inferior da ribeira.
Estes símbolos são acompanhados por uma estrela cor de ouro no cantão da sinistra do chefe e de uma flor-de-lis (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flor-de-lis) do mesmo, no cantão da dextra da ponta. Tem por timbre um braço vestido de azul e posto em pala, elevando no ar uma estrela de ouro.
Referências[editar (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&veaction=edit§ion=3) | editar código-fonte (https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camelo_(apelido)&action=edit§ion=3)]
Nobiliário das Famílias de Portugal, Felgueiras Gayo, Carvalhos de Basto, 2.ª Edição, Braga, 1989, vol. III, pg. 240.
D. Luiz de Lancastre e Távora, Dicionário das Famílias Portuguesas, Quetzal Editores, 2.ª Edição, Lisboa, pg. 124.
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 05:55 PM
I'm talking about a migration from Italy to Iberia one thousand years ago.
I have an italian greatgrandmother with french like surname and other with arab surname, there are an interchange of surnames in Europe.
A migration 1.000 years ago? You mean in 1.017 a.d.?? FOR WHAT should have migrated italians into iberia in those times? I just know some italian surname in Spain like PICASSO which is a genoese surname or ALBERTI, italian surname as well, but except these two none other italian surname is present in Spain. I suppose that PICASSO, being a genoese surname could have been some navigator who accompanied Cristoforo Colombo or was working as a sailor in some spanish port......
It it most probable to find SPANISH surnames in Italy (which we have plenty) due to two Sicilies reign ruled by many and also by spaniards. Infact in Naples and Sicily we have AYALA, LOPEZ, RODRIGUEZ, LOYOLA and so on, all of them spanish surnames, probably spanish guys that formed familities in Italy during 2 Sicilies reign.
Another way spanish surnames could have come into Italy is when they expelled the sephardies and those people could have partly arrived in Italy. Camelo could have been one of them.
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 06:03 PM
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Approssimatamente 41,444
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Brasile
18,905
1: 10,738
918
Colombia
16,316
1: 2,925
524
Messico
2,408
1: 49,715
3,139
Portogallo
1,127
1: 9,297
848
Stati Uniti d'America
610
1: 525,033
44,670
Venezuela
376
1: 80,336
4,654
Spagna
253
1: 183,825
13,579
Francia
196
1: 336,526
50,564
Uruguay
196
1: 16,767
2,490
Italia
190
1: 319,802
42,475
Argentina
179
1: 238,377
28,748
Ecuador
161
1: 98,166
4,978
India
147
1: 8,489,932
127,605
Cile
99
1: 179,525
9,374
Inghilterra
86
1: 627,907
45,655
Canada
73
1: 485,309
43,335
Perù
57
1: 540,600
18,012
Australia
17
1: 1,386,247
92,417
Nuova Zelanda
7
1: 649,536
38,459
Cina
4
1: 341,547,500
10,542
Panamá
3
1: 1,135,271
4,915
Indonesia
2
1: 126,082,400
723,167
Sudafrica
2
1: 27,001,000
82,478
Emirati Arabi Uniti
2
1: 4,723,000
52,939
Arabia Saudita
2
1: 14,997,136
33,202
Filippine
2
1: 50,049,300
54,135
Angola
2
1: 9,591,795
4,086
Irlanda
2
1: 2,296,550
19,046
Belgio
2
1: 5,601,033
65,594
El Salvador
2
1: 3,200,620
2,794
Austria
1
1: 8,527,230
37,493
Capo Verde
1
1: 491,875
801
Oman
1
1: 3,988,298
11,510
Gabon
1
1: 1,711,000
2,715
Costa Rica
1
1: 4,667,096
15,162
Polinesia Francese
1
1: 268,270
2,232
Malawi
1
1: 16,829,000
6,688
Monaco
1
1: 36,950
2,309
Marocco
1
1: 33,350,300
38,830
Paesi Bassi
1
1: 16,863,800
118,015
Turchia
1
1: 76,667,864
53,505
Svizzera
1
1: 8,160,900
81,201
Svezia
1
1: 9,694,194
77,122
Norvegia
1
1: 5,124,383
47,891
Porto Rico
1
1: 3,615,086
8,828
Paraguay
1
1: 6,783,374
5,924
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Cristiano viejo
02-03-2018, 06:21 PM
As usual you use whatever source to demonstrate something which is so evident. In this case you use: a) an american file to explain what "could" have happened to people named Camelo (NAME WHICH HAS NO SENSE IN ITALIAN). Camelo is how Spain and Portugal call the camel (the animal) not the italian way.
Camelo is not nor a Spanish surname nor any name. Here camel is cameLLo, not camelo, you liar.
I already have showed the Italian origin of the Camelo surname, and how THERE ARE ITALIANS IN ITALY with that surname.
Regarding Italians emigrating to Spain, something you deny (just because you are a great ignorant), a little proof
Linking economic, social, demographic, and cultural
During the long period (three centuries) of political connections between Spain and Italy active economic exchanges were done (trade and finance, in which the cities of the North of Italy continued a tradition that dated back to the late Middle Ages, since the presence of Italian colonies in the Spanish shopping malls was very important), social, demographic (emigration of Spaniards to Italy and Italians to Spain) and cultural.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_espa%C3%B1ola
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 06:31 PM
Camelo is not nor a Spanish surname nor any name. Here camel is cameLLo, not camelo, you liar.
I already have showed the Italian origin of the Camelo surname, and how THERE ARE ITALIANS IN ITALY with that surname.
Regarding Italians emigrating to Spain, something you deny (just because you are a great ignorant), a little proof
Linking economic, social, demographic, and cultural
During the long period (three centuries) of political connections between Spain and Italy active economic exchanges were done (trade and finance, in which the cities of the North of Italy continued a tradition that dated back to the late Middle Ages, since the presence of Italian colonies in the Spanish shopping malls was very important), social, demographic (emigration of Spaniards to Italy and Italians to Spain) and cultural.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia_espa%C3%B1ola
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS A MIGRATION???? THOUSAND OF PEOPLE MOVING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND NOT ITALIAN COLONIES IN THE SPANISH SHOPPING MALLS. DURING 3 CENTURIES, UNLESS YOU ADMIT THAT PHOENICIANS MIGRATED INTO SPAIN AS WELL, SEEN THAT PHOENICIANS HAD COLONIES IN SPAIN AND AS WELL HAD SHOPPING MALLS IN IBERIA!!!!!
Cretino Viejo, the surname Camelo IS NOT in italian Language and Spain has the double of that surname with respect to Italy!!!!! Portuguese have even more and French almost like italy. The stupid cunt insists and insists an cites Wikipediia??
I've also posted WIKIPEDIA ORIGIN OF THE SURNAME CAMELO AND WIKIPEDIA WRITES IN PORTUGUESE THAT IT IS PORTUGUESE, NOT ITALIAN!!!!! And, please, read the sources where Wikipedia takes its information: PORTUGUESE STUDIES.
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 06:33 PM
BY THE WAY, THE ONLY ITALIAN SURNAMES PRESENT IN SPAIN SINCE ANCIENT TIMES ARE PICASSO (genoese), ALBERTI, DORIA, FARNESE AND SPINOLA THAT YOU MANGLE AS "Farnesio" and "Espinola"........
PICASSO, the painter
ALBERTI, the writer
DORIA, FARNESE, SPINOLA, military leaders at the service of spanish crown........
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CrazyCatLady
02-03-2018, 06:42 PM
If the guy was good looking this thread would have 1-2 pages with people agreeing he can ''pass'' and that's all.
Longobarda
02-03-2018, 07:05 PM
I'm talking about a migration from Italy to Iberia one thousand years ago.
I have an italian greatgrandmother with french like surname and other with arab surname, there are an interchange of surnames in Europe.
In Italy we have "french like" surnames just because we are bordering France and because we have a region (Val d'Aosta) where french languages are spoken. And we have also german like surnames, not only in South Tyrol (which is a almost modern adquisition) but in all the Alpine Arc. We have Always had very ancient contacts with our neighbours. Switzerland is nearer than Venice or Turin from my home, for example.... and not only italian Switzerland. We border also with french and german Switzerland and Austria. In North-eastern Italy we have slovenjian surnames like "Kokosar", "Stanic" and so on.
My dear, please understand that Italy is not only Sicily.
Cristiano viejo
02-03-2018, 07:25 PM
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS A MIGRATION???? THOUSAND OF PEOPLE MOVING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY
Exactly, and that is what happened with Italians and Spaniards moving each other during centuries, unfortunately.
I already have proved Camelo is an Italian surname and that there are Italians wih that surname, not my problem that you dont like this and that have to invent that camelo is a Spanish word to call the camel :laugh:
Carlito's Way
02-04-2018, 05:09 AM
He looks very mix with black
Kivan
02-04-2018, 07:11 AM
Triracial.
Xacal
02-04-2018, 03:07 PM
Quadroon
Longobarda
02-04-2018, 10:26 PM
Exactly, and that is what happened with Italians and Spaniards moving each other during centuries, unfortunately.
I already have proved Camelo is an Italian surname and that there are Italians wih that surname, not my problem that you dont like this and that have to invent that camelo is a Spanish word to call the camel :laugh:
FIRST of all: I POSTED A STUDY BY PORTUGUESE SCHOLARS that state that CAMELO is A PORTUGUESE SURNAME. All you post are shitholes
SECOND: NEVER thousand of italians migrated to Spain. Just in your retard fantasy
THIRD: the surname CAMELO exists in at least 10 countries in the world, and in 4 countries in Europe. The first having more frequency of that surname is Portugal, the second Spain, the third France, the fourth Italy. Spain has the double frequency of that surname than Italy, for example. But that surname is PORTUGUESE.
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Cristiano viejo
02-04-2018, 10:38 PM
FIRST of all: I POSTED A STUDY BY PORTUGUESE SCHOLARS that state that CAMELO is A PORTUGUESE SURNAME. All you post are shitholes
Yes, you also posted that camelo is a Spanish word that means camel, remember? :lightbul:
So according you this Italian called Gabrielle Camelo is not really an Italian but a Portuguese, true?
Gabrielle Camelo
Filmmaker presso TV2000
Roma, Italia
Attuale
TV2000, Varie
Precedente
marechiarofilm, Rai, Istituto San Francesco - Suore Francescane Alcantarine
Formazione
Università degli studi de L'Aquila
https://media-exp2.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/1/000/08f/31e/31caae1.jpg
https://it.linkedin.com/in/gabrielecamelo
You posted wikipedia, while I posted this, where the Italian origin of the surname Camelo is very well explained, and where they even name this Brazilian mongrel as member of this Italian surname:
CAMELO HISTORY, FAMILY CREST & COAT OF ARMS
Early origins of the Camelo family
The surname Camelo was found first in Rome (Italian: Roma), the capital of the Kingdom of Italy. Little can be said in the space available which would do justice to the history is a book of life itself. The buildings, culture, art, cathedrals, churches, museum galleries hold untold treasures unequalled anywhere else in the world. In these ancient times only persons the rank, the podesta, clergy, city officials, army officers, artists, landowners were entered into the records. To be recorded at this time, at the beginning of recorded history, was of itself a great distinction and indicative of noble ancestry.
Camelo spelling variations
Spelling variations of this family name include: Escamilla, Camilla, Camille, Escamille, Camillia, Ezcamilla and many more.
Migration of the Camelo family to the New World and Oceana
Some of the first settlers of this family of this family name or some of its variants were: Salvatore Camilla, who arrived to New York in 1887 aboard the "Chandernagor", Nunzio Camillis, who arrived to New York in 1891, aboard the "Dania"; Angelo Camillo, who was naturalized in Illinois in 1900.
Contemporary notables of the name Camelo (post 1700)
Carlos Filipe Camelo, Portuguese president of Seia, Portugal
Marcelo de Souza Camelo (b.1978), Brazilian composer, singer, guitarist, and poet
https://www.houseofnames.com/camelo-family-crest
SECOND: NEVER thousand of italians migrated to Spain. Just in your retard fantasy
Yes, sure, unfortunately it is true. Thousands of Italians immigrated to Spain in the Middle Age during the Reconquista and even later. It is very well documented. Traders, soldiers, merchants, sailors... Not my problem that you are an ignorant.
Damião de Góis
02-04-2018, 10:45 PM
Never heard of this surname before, and i don't know or ever met anyone with this surname. Nevertheless it does exist in Portugal like wikipedia states, but at a very low rate:
http://locatemyname.com/portugal/Camelo
So low that the surname Smith has a higher frequency in Algarve according to the same website. It almost suggests a foreign origin indeed.
Cristiano viejo
02-04-2018, 10:50 PM
So low that the surname Smith has a higher frequency in Algarve according to the same website. It almost suggests a foreign origin indeed.
Italian
https://books.google.es/books?id=wFRmAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA277&lpg=PA277&dq=camelo+cognomi&source=bl&ots=UkisyF9LWq&sig=Jp_cbewgTnDPv7zEx0aOvSG3CeM&hl=es&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQn5-UuI3ZAhVEVBQKHd3iC2MQ6AEIZjAI#v=onepage&q=camelo%20cognomi&f=false
Tooting Carmen
02-04-2018, 11:56 PM
Looks part-Black, though predominantly European for sure.
Heather Duval
02-05-2018, 01:28 PM
Never heard of this surname before, and i don't know or ever met anyone with this surname. Nevertheless it does exist in Portugal like wikipedia states, but at a very low rate:
http://locatemyname.com/portugal/Camelo
So low that the surname Smith has a higher frequency in Algarve according to the same website. It almost suggests a foreign origin indeed.
http://www.namespedia.com/image/Camelo_surname.jpg
and according to his mother it comes from Portugal
http://s2.glbimg.com/dMkSK_xmQixfTD-4byqOz8AMMjw=/smart/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2015/12/29/captura_de_tela_2015-12-29_as_10.54.20_1.png
http://revistaglamour.globo.com/Celebridades/noticia/2015/12/nasce-filha-de-mallu-magalhaes-e-marcelo-camelo.html
or do you believe in Italian living in Portugal?
Cristiano viejo
02-05-2018, 07:20 PM
http://www.namespedia.com/image/Camelo_surname.jpg
What part of "that has nothing to do with the fuckin origin of the fuckin surname" do you not understand??
It is proven it is Italian in origin.
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