Is Elle fanning too white for being typical in any European country except UK/Germany/Ireland?

[Heather Duval]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f1/01/c4/f101c4965d1338b1a8849c4536e9d740.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VKr_qLfq0WE/We_TEEaJSKI/AAAAAAAAKI0/P_5VIxccAlUOCOmjHSUUf3j5rbOAv_OuACEwYBhgL/s1600/b97845441b0049d83688c2c189b51517.jpg
http://www.celebzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/elle-fanning-at-the-beguiled-photocall-in-cannes-_1.jpg
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/elle-red/elle-fanning-shows-off-fit-figure-in-studio-city-04.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/30/article-2351936-1A954D68000005DC-262_642x976.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

She looks English as fuck, super pale as well

[Scar]

She looks NW Euro, but NW Euros aren't more ''white'' than Scandinavia or Baltic countries.

[Heather Duval]

She looks English as fuck, super pale as well

Yes, I think she is atypical in many European countries for being extremely white. No one on TA is as white as she is.

[Heather Duval]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/08/07/360ED3E200000578-0-image-m-138_1467961146348.jpg
http://cdn1.alloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Elle-Fanning-attending-Hollywood-Foreign-Press-Association-dinner-August-2014.jpg

[Heather Duval]

She looks NW Euro, but NW Euros aren't more ''white'' than Scandinavia or Baltic countries.

She looks whiter than 98% of European celebs.

[Scar]

She looks whiter than 98% of European celebs.

She looks dead, a bit of sun and a North Caucasian stallion pounding her ass would make her loook good.

[Heather Duval]

She looks dead, a bit of sun and a North Caucasian stallion pounding her ass would make her loook good.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/dcfea227510c2a5216640c4cb7e053c8/tenor.gif?itemid=10422638

[Berlko2]

She is Ed Sheeran-like white. Pass in NW Europe. I don’t see her fitting in other European countries.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Reminds me of my sister and my nephew and my nieces and Nicola Roberts and Felice Fawn and also of this southern English man:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NziVdbOTLTI

And pale like the English Brummie people in this band: 2:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llH5zVQCsOU

She could pass amongst this crowd of southern English people too. 1:05 Could easily pass in Scotland too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCGoGZPZ0k

She could pass amongst Irish people too... and she could also pass amongst the super-pale Gothic subculture of people in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ietY3Tmou8

[Heather Duval]

Reminds me of my sister and two of my nieces and Nicola Roberts and also of this southern English man:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NziVdbOTLTI

And pale like the English Brummie people in this band: 2:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llH5zVQCsOU

She could pass amongst Irish people too... and she could also pass amongst the super-pale Gothic subculture of people in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ietY3Tmou8

Yes, she looks British/German/Irish. Nothing more than that.

[Heather Duval]

She played an English girl in this movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teNx6pbN-_c

[Heather Duval]

Her sister Dakota Fanning
http://www.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2011/05/msg-130475038361.jpg
https://rogermooresmovienation.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/dakota.jpg?w=650

[♥ Lily ♥]

She played an English girl in this movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teNx6pbN-_c

She reminds me of Lily Cole (a supermodel, Hollywood movie actress, high-achieving university academic, and spokesperson for many good causes) from Devon, south-west England.

Marilyn Manson chose Lily Cole to appear in a movie he wrote, filmed and directed about Victorian England, and she also starred alongside Johnny Depp in the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnasuss, and was also given a role in a Hollywood movie about Snow White... I think she played Rose Red in the movie. She also starred in the English movie St. Trinian's about an elite private girls school in England.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ce/c7/97/cec79727f6fd55f39aa7b301fca1578d--lily-cole-fashion-rocks.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-znAYqzHk5eY/UERfXoIy8kI/AAAAAAAAFhs/7R-B5iYz6QE/s1600/Lily+Cole-1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/35/8b/42/358b4222242c32116ec9028c53d91374.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/0c/6c/920c6cbdf9645502c2714b9e3e0c097b.jpg
https://tepe68blog2.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/lily-cole-004.jpg
http://topnews.in/light/files/Lily_Cole.jpg

Lily dyed her ginger hair dark in the Irish-Canadian movie where she plays a tall, mysterious, and elegant private school student in a middle or upper class school... who is a vampire ghost who seduces and haunts the female students in the horror movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moth_Diaries_(film)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/The_Moth_Diaries_FilmPoster.jpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6JTlaHock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78-A4m-Dic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09W8vlivpFI

[Heather Duval]

She reminds me of Lily Cole (a supermodel, Hollywood movie actress, university academic, and spokesperson for many good causes) from Devon, south-west England.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ce/c7/97/cec79727f6fd55f39aa7b301fca1578d--lily-cole-fashion-rocks.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-znAYqzHk5eY/UERfXoIy8kI/AAAAAAAAFhs/7R-B5iYz6QE/s1600/Lily+Cole-1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/35/8b/42/358b4222242c32116ec9028c53d91374.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/0c/6c/920c6cbdf9645502c2714b9e3e0c097b.jpg
https://tepe68blog2.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/lily-cole-004.jpg
http://topnews.in/light/files/Lily_Cole.jpg

Lily dyed her ginger hair dark in the Irish-Canadian movie where she plays a tall, mysterious, and elegant school student in a middle-class school... who is a vampire ghost who seduces and haunts the female students in the horror movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moth_Diaries_(film)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/The_Moth_Diaries_FilmPoster.jpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78-A4m-Dic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6JTlaHock

Elle natural hair colour is dark blonde.
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Elle+Fanning+Twilight+Saga+New+Moon+Los+Angeles+8O lscO4-l0kl.jpg

[Heather Duval]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K2YB1d8BqY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnQzRt1Au0E
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/be2a96527ad2595a0f2ce742aafcf5661500089c/c=418-0-4546-3105&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/05/29//1401393236000-AFP-530207887.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Shes those of white people who has indeed white skin.

[♥ Lily ♥]

She also reminds me of Emma Laird (a model from northern England.)

http://i.picasion.com/resize79/3e70688fd632238a1857ba699e45a8e4.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/400abfad8f38062fefe87c4f6d999d73.jpg
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/ee8195e8d3e266bc1b797504689d3640.jpg
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/935648d7190502e91587841df16c9ae9.jpg
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http://i.picasion.com/resize79/7309eb664a02aea754f7e10b4d0f6f58.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/d718965a4677dfd5c053cfc9842e1fb3.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/c64f2b2b435ba91cb51dfff2d93e3272.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/ef042a87c99a655f9e9f666cb747c54f.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/efb600616735b01a9ad198cca12a0025.jpg
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http://i.picasion.com/resize79/02672133c970c1ba4ca1b1d565288e03.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/622c3a93af40edd3750888effb027521.png
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/b037be8ef056a26d29902fa95f582ca4.png
http://41.media.tumblr.com/a07acbe5bf02a839b74c1814b6c0a8ac/tumblr_n46ikk3pfq1r5uscwo1_500.jpg
http://models1blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Emma-Laird-Wonderland-1FEAT-595x375.jpg

[Meerkat]

Her sister Dakota Fanning
http://www.buzznet.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2011/05/msg-130475038361.jpg
https://rogermooresmovienation.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/dakota.jpg?w=650

They both look kinda terrifying.

[Heather Duval]

They both look kinda terrifying.

why?

[Meerkat]

why?

They look like ghosts.

[Xacal]

Looks Ducth

[sun_circle]

This is because they are 'ladies of leisure' and therefore do not work outside. I used to be like them, until I travelled and did manly things.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Her features also reminds me of an English movie actress from an aristocratic family called Gabriella Wilde (from Hampshire, southern England.) I think she's wearing fake tan though like a lot of celebs do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriella_Wilde

http://ucesy-sk.happyhair.sk/celebrity_img/wildeer1jn1411.jpg
http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bigstock-LOS-ANGELES-JUN-Gabriella-Wilde.jpg
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/b22c07b757911e813526fa4dd51eee2d.jpg
http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Gabriella-Wilde-in-Instyle-Magazine-UK-2012-April-Issue-2.jpg
http://ilarge.listal.com/image/5326643/968full-gabriella-wilde.jpg
http://worthpix.com/files/glamgalz/imgs/parties/gabriella_wilde_party_13.jpg

Some interesing info: Gabriella's sister Isabella used to be Prince William's girlfriend, and her half-sister Cressida (below) used to be Prince Harry's girlfriend.

Kate didn't like Cressida and she didn't want her around Prince Harry due to Prince William previously being infatuated and heart-broken when Cressida's half-sister Isabella ended her relationship with him due to the media pressure, and Isabella married billionaire and entrepreneur Sir Richard Branson's son Sam Branson instead.

So the Royal Family put pressure on Prince Harry to end his relationship with Cressida (below) as they didn't want her family connection of her half-sister Isabella (Prince William's ex-girlfriend who he was heartbroken over before he met Kate,) to be around Kate & William, incase Isabella's presence around the Prince disrupted the peace of his marriage to Kate.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/cressida-bonas.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

So Prince Harry dropped Cressida and he's now engaged to a biracial American actress (Meghan Markle.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCQrchEOOoM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLHyMOlkWvg

[Heather Duval]

This is because they are 'ladies of leisure' and therefore do not work outside. I used to be like them, until I travelled and did manly things.

If she spend 2 hours in the beach she will look like this
https://beccasara.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sunburn-thumb818331.jpg

Only artificial spray tan can help pale people.

[♥ Lily ♥]

If she spend 2 hours in the beach she will look like this
https://beccasara.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sunburn-thumb818331.jpg

Only artificial spray tan can help pale people.

* Just 20 minutes without high SPF protection is enough to cause severe blisters and burning.

A tan isn't healthy nor fashionable though. (It may have been fashionable in the 90's but pale and natural is often advertised as beautiful and fashionable today.) The pale aesthetic is extremely popular amongst the gothic subculture of people.

In Victorian England, a tan was a sign of poverty as poor people from the working classes would do long hours of labour in the sun and they would often have a dirty and rugged appearance from all the hard labour work they did for the elite.

The upper class ladies and gentlemen would sit underneath their elegant sun parasols underneath the cool shade of their garden trees, sipping mint tea and cooling themselves with elegant hand-held fans.

The upper class ladies in Victorian and Tudor England would even powder their faces extremely pale (as shown in paintings of Elizabeth I, etc.) It was seen as a sign of nobility during that era.

A suntan is actually a sign that the skin has been fried and damaged and has had to put up a defence. UVA rays from the sun causes the skin to age prematurely and causes the skin to become leathery textured later in life. UVB rays causes deadly skin cancers. (95% of all wrinkles comes from sun exposure, so daily high level UVA and UVB skin protection is required.)

Fair skin doesn't require much sun exposure to obtain vitamin D (just a few minutes of sunlight per day is adequate according to experts) and fish and supplements also contain vitamin D.

It's so much healthier to keep the skin natural, baby-soft, and pale. (Unless people are naturally dark coloured, but even dark skin still needs adequate sun protection to preserve the skin health.)

[Scar]

If she spend 2 hours in the beach she will look like this
https://beccasara.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sunburn-thumb818331.jpg

Only artificial spray tan can help pale people.

A big cock in and out for some minutes and she will turn red naturally. I guess she's like most English females: BBC lover.
Everyone in England love BBC, even the men.

[♥ Lily ♥]

A big cock in and out for some minutes and she will turn red naturally. I guess she's like most English females: BBC lover.
Everyone in England love BBC, even the men.

You seem obsessed with discussing men's um.... like it's constantly on your mind a lot. :rolleyes:

[RN97]

She's beautiful. She's a bottle blonde and she looks British, Dutch or German

[Scar]

You seem obsessed with discussing men's um.... like it's constantly on your mind a lot. :rolleyes:

You're projecting. I just stated a fact.

[♥ Lily ♥]

You're projecting. I just stated a fact.

Penises are constantly on your mind though.

[Scar]

Penises are constantly on your mind though.

You gave me a thumbs down out of nowhere, you're definitely butthurt with my comment.

[Heather Duval]

'They're long-lost princesses!' Elle and Dakota Fanning discovered to be cousins of Kate Middleton
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2640921/Elle-Dakota-Fanning-discovered-cousins-Kate-Middleton.html

[♥ Lily ♥]

You gave me a thumbs down out of nowhere, you're definitely butthurt with my comment.

Because you're mistaken and clueless. Men seem more obsessed with thinking about and discussing penises than females care to think about that. It's not what attracts a female towards a male. Nice eyes and a sweet smile, nice shoulders, and personality are the most important features that makes a male attractive.

[Odin]

She can pass anywhere in NW Europe.

[FilhoV]

https://i.imgur.com/IO1A1HF.jpg

Joana Santos is same pigmentation just Mediterranean inspired hair and eyes

[Heather Duval]

https://i.imgur.com/IO1A1HF.jpg

Joana Santos is same pigmentation just Mediterranean inspired hair and eyes

She isnt. Joana can tan.
http://images-cdn.impresa.pt/tvmais/2016-07-27-joanasantos.jpg-1/1x1/mw-320
http://asdigital.tv.br/portal/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/IMG_8512.jpg

Elle is almost pink and cant tan
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Elle+Fanning+shows+off+thin+frame+sports+bra+OArBr nX_fd1x.jpg
http://stealherstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/elle-fanning-makeup-3.jpg

[Crimean]

Too much white. Sexuality at the level of a corpse.

[ovidiu]

What about Holland and Scandinavia too? Like Denmark. Probably closer to those places than say southern Germany.

She's kind of cute in a few photos but yeah overly pale and bright, it's too much and almost blinding lol. I noticed you get those kinds more in UK itself than America. It's like the American Anglos were able to adapt to sunnier climates.

[oszkar07]

she looks aneamic.

I think Fanning is Irish name.

[♥ Lily ♥]

she looks aneamic.

No, people who are natually light skinned with little melanin doesn't mean they're anaemic and lacking iron in their diet. :rolleyes:

I don't think she looks anaemic at all, because she doesn't look fatigued, physically weak and tired... she has some healthy rosy pink colour in her cheeks and nails, and her hair looks healthy too.

Anaemic people have very dry and brittle hair and nails. Elle Fanning's skin, hair, and nails looks smooth and soft and healthy. (A tan is a sign of damaged and unhealthy skin.)

Anaemic people look like this: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=anaemic+people&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGgc_RxcDZAhUBJ8AKHZeWBZEQ_AUICigB&biw=1289&bih=663&dpr=2#imgrc=XutrBno32gSU3M:

Doctors pull the skin underneath the eyes down slightly to look at the colour of the blood vessels under the thin layer of skin beneath the eyes when they're checking to see if a person has signs of anaemia. A person with a healthy iron level in their blood will have a healthy reddish colour underneath their eyes, whereas an anaemic person doesn't.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/bc/7a/b6bc7a1bde8c24fed309da96e05797f9.jpg

The nails in the image below show anaemia. (The skin on these peoples hands looks unhealthy btw, with extreme wrinkles and a loss of collagen as a result of sun damage caused by prolonged exposure to UVA rays.)
https://spareyourtummy.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/anemia3.jpg

These Irish girls (below) were born with natural light skin, but they're not anaemic. You can see a slight rosy-pink undertone in their cheeks, which is a sign of good health and healthy levels of iron present in the blood.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/44/5f/0c/445f0c592b67693eb0ae9b23f34219ac--pumpkin-farm-pumpkin-spice.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/8d/64/608d648153caaeb83baf92f5a2efd313.jpg

[♥ Lily ♥]

I think Fanning is Irish name.

No, Fanning is a medieval English surname.

'This interesting and unusual name is of medieval English origin and is a topographic surname for someone who lived in a low-lying marshy area. The derivation is from the old English pre 7th Century "foenn", which is the East Saxon form of the word "fenn", meaning marsh or bog.'

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Fanning

[oszkar07]

Being natually light skinned doesn't mean a person is anaemic.

I know Lilly , I was just being a bit over dramatic for affect ... she is very light skinned buy I agree she doenst look unhealthy , she does remind me of a English girl I knew who had the same colouring. The girl I knew was vegetarian and worked as a naturopath ... so she studied some biology and would have known about what to eat as a vegetarian to compensate for not eating meat. After a year or 2 of being vegetarian her Dr told her she was dangerously anaemic and told her she had to force herself to eat meat ... she had exactly same natural skin coulour as Elle Fanning.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I know Lilly , I was just being a bit over dramatic for affect ... she is very light skinned buy I agree she doenst look unhealthy , she does remind me of a English girl I knew who had the same colouring. The girl I knew was vegetarian and worked as a naturopath ... so she studied some biology and would have known about what to eat as a vegetarian to compensate for not eating meat. After a year or 2 of being vegetarian her Dr told her she was dangerously anaemic and told her she had to force herself to eat meat ... she had exactly same natural skin coulour as Elle Fanning.

I'm pale and so are my sisters and nieces and nephew... but we're not anaemic. I have a very good iron count in my blood and I eat organic spinach daily (which is rich in iron) and organic fruits that are rich in vitamin C ... as vitamin C enables the blood to absorb iron.

Please don't quote this picture of one of my sisters, but she's not anaemic. She dyed her hair black in the photo below. She's 5'8" and has healthy bone growth.

Pic removed.

Our skin looks very pale when the sunlight shines on it and in outside lighting, but in indoor lighting our skin has a warmer tone, like in the picture of my other sister in the spoiler below. (Don't quote please.)

She's 5'11" and has good bones, plus you can see some pink glow in her cheeks (she's not wearing blusher make-up on her cheeks to make them look rosy, nor is she wearing any make-up,) which is a sign of natural good health.

Pic removed.

In my secondary school in south-west England, my best friend Natasha suffered from a severe form of anaemia. She was very pale, but she was also extremely thin (less than 6 stone in weight and only 5'3" in height)... and her nails and hair looked very brittle and dry all the time. She had no glow in her cheeks and her skin looked dry, and she always looked very weak, fatigued and tired, prior to her stay in hospital.

She had to stay in hospital for somewhile (several months) due to the severity of her condition and she explained her medical diagnosis of anaemia and her symptoms to me in hand-written letters that she sent to me while she was away from school in hospital. Her two sisters and her brother are also very pale like her parents, but they're not anaemic. She has to take medication each day for her anaemia.

[Grace O'Malley]

No, Fanning is a medieval English surname.

'This interesting and unusual name is of medieval English origin and is a topographic surname for someone who lived in a low-lying marshy area. The derivation is from the old English pre 7th Century "foenn", which is the East Saxon form of the word "fenn", meaning marsh or bog.'

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Fanning

Lily, Fanning is also an Irish surname. It can have native Irish origins or Norman.

https://www.houseofnames.com/fanning-family-crest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanning_(surname)

https://www.facebook.com/Fanning-Irish-Clan-Homepage-293206824057098/

Also Elle Fanning got her surname from Irish ancestry.

Elle’s paternal grandfather was William E. “Bill” Fanning (the son of George Joseph Fanning and Dorcas Florence Godden). George was born in New York, to Irish parents, Edward William Fanning and Catharine Connelly, who was from Donegal. Elle however does has ancestry from Germany, England, Ireland, France and the Channel Islands.

Fanning is quite a common surname in Ireland.

[FYCW Parasite]

I don't know. Her features aren't the most "Aryan" I've ever seen (not implying she looks mixed or not european). While really pale, I would say that other celebrities look whiter (Using white as a race and not as an skin colour). Angela Featherstone, nastya kusakina, Morgan Fairchild. It's just an opinion about a not important topic.

[RenaRyuguu]

part Ashkenazi the mom cheated prob. Dakota's half sister

[Ayetooey]

She's so pale she looks ill.

[Ayetooey]

part Ashkenazi the mom cheated prob. Dakota's half sister

That's an unfounded conspiracy theory.

[chociprasa]

Pass best in Ireland, but can pass in all Germanic countries and Finland too, maybe even France.

[nittionia]

I know a ton of girls her color

[RenaRyuguu]

That's an unfounded conspiracy theory.

They make different content though. Dakota is drawn to English content such as hippie movies and like Old Hollywood when it was more anglo and Elle likes more deep things like idk discovering like the truth in movies and researching and they don't get along well. I know from my experience because I have a half brother anyway it doesn't matter a DNA test tv show would be interesting. They dc here anyway

[kaltar]

too white lol

[Zeus]

she might be the palest person I've ever seen in my life tbh. Look at that last pic - that seriously cant be healthy. she needs a tan now

[Area51Defender]

She's too white for any of the three countries you just mentioned. She'll stand out even in the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, or Sweden. She passes best in Finland and possibly Estonia.

[Immanenz]

She's too white for any of the three countries you just mentioned. She'll stand out even in the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, or Sweden. She passes best in Finland and possibly Estonia.

you see... that Borreby / Baltid/ Subnordid thing is pretty hard for Beginners...
she has a British tan, and fits there pretty well and NW Euro more than NE.

[Jana]

Yes, too white looking for Croatia for sure. She'd be guessed foreigner here instantly.

[Area51Defender]

you see... that Borreby / Baltid/ Subnordid thing is pretty hard for Beginners...
she has a British tan, and fits there pretty well and NW Euro more than NE.

But her hair color is too white for a Germanic, and her skin pigmentation is about as pale as a Celtic. Such a combination of hair and skin tones can only be typical for a Finnic.

However, she does lack the occasional epicanthic fold that can be found in Finns and Estonians.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Cute goth GF skintone(no cute goth GF hair though, her blondness is fake but she's still medium-light brown haired), the most superiour skintone available on a female(males probably do want a tiny bit of a tan, although too much swarth and it starts to get repulsive), and that's coming from someone who tans really well.

[XenophobicPrussian]

But her hair color is too white for a Germanic, and her skin pigmentation is about as pale as a Celtic. Such a combination of hair and skin tones can only be typical for a Finnic.

However, she does lack the occasional epicanthic fold that can be found in Finns and Estonians.
1) Her hair colour is fake :picard1: Is it really that hard for wogs to tell?
2) Finns MIGHT be blonder than Scandinavians(Estonians definitely aren't), but if they are it's literally by 1-3 percentage points
3) Doubtful Finns are much, if at all, lighter skinned than Swedes(Norwegians are lighter skinned, especially in the west), both have much higher tanning ability than British Islanders

https://uinterview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Elle_Fanning.jpg

[Immanenz]

But her hair color is too white for a Germanic, and her skin pigmentation is about as pale as a Celtic. Such a combination of hair and skin tones can only be typical for a Finnic.

However, she does lack the occasional epicanthic fold that can be found in Finns and Estonians.

Dont think her hair is too light for Germanics, but she is bleached anyway.

[Gommi]

...

[Komintasavalta]

2) Finns MIGHT be blonder than Scandinavians(Estonians definitely aren't)

Based on what sources? Your study or ToeKneeHwin?

In Heapost (2008) ("Pigmentation variation in Finno-Ugric peoples"), Estonians were listed as having lighter average hair color than Finns but darker average eye color (https://www.etis.ee/Portal/Publications/Display/1fd319c0-7408-4e31-9f18-b9b3010eabad):

https://i.imgur.com/f8F04UJ.jpg

The combined frequency of light blonde, blonde, and dark blonde hair was also the highest in Estonians (34.5%): about 60% higher than among the Swedish-speaking population of Finland (21.3%).


PopulationLight
blondeBlondeDark
blondeBrownBlackMean
hair
colorLight blonde +
blonde +
dark blonde
Estonian2.24.427.951.514.02.7134.5
Finnish3.64.921.724.022.82.8030.2
Finnish (Northeast)1.73.121.255.718.32.8626.0
Karelian.6.624.554.220.12.9225.7
Izhorian1.51.521.650.824.62.9524.6
Finnish (Ingrian)02.520.062.515.02.9022.5
Teryukhan03.118.759.418.82.9421.8
Finland-Swede.82.018.554.424.32.9921.3
Karatai0020.457.422.23.0220.4
Vepsian3.91.914.442.337.53.0820.2
Erzya.51.318.146.633.53.1119.9
Komi-Zyrian1.21.216.151.729.83.0818.5
Udmurt.91.514.337.346.03.2616.7
Moksha.21.714.147.336.73.1816.0
Komi-Permyak.72.611.246.838.73.2014.5
Udmurt (Besserman)1.6012.137.948.43.3113.7
Russian (Volga-Ural).21.111.947.539.33.2513.2
Saami0.69.742.447.33.3610.3
Mari0.27.438.753.73.467.6
Hungarian00.66.454.938.13.317.0
Tatar004.731.264.13.634.7
Chuvash0.44.330.165.23.604.7
Mansi002.727.469.93.672.7
Khanty002.222.275.63.732.2
Bashkir0.3.316.782.73.820.6


The sample size for both Estonians and Finns was over 1,000 (males only).

Dark brown hair colors were aggregated with black hair, so "black" was listed as the most common hair color among populations like Bashkirs and Khanty:


Hair colour was recorded on the Fischer scale. During statistical processing of the data, the Fischer scale was reduced to a 5-point system: No. on the Fischer scale 4, 5 and 27 - 4 points (black); 6, 7, 8 - 3 points (brown); 9, 10, 11, 12 and 26 - 2 points (dark blond); 13, 14, 15 and 25 - 1 point (blond); 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24 - 0 points (light blond). In addition, red hair was recorded separately (Nos 1, 2 and 3).

[XenophobicPrussian]

Based on what sources? Your study or ToeKneeHwin?

In Heapost (2008) ("Pigmentation variation in Finno-Ugric peoples"), Estonians were listed as having lighter average hair color than Finns but darker average eye color (https://www.etis.ee/Portal/Publications/Display/1fd319c0-7408-4e31-9f18-b9b3010eabad):

https://i.imgur.com/f8F04UJ.jpg

The combined frequency of light blonde, blonde, and dark blonde hair was also the highest in Estonians (34.5%): about 60% higher than among the Swedish-speaking population of Finland (21.3%).


PopulationLight
blondeBlondeDark
blondeBrownBlackMean
hair
colorLight blonde +
blonde +
dark blonde
Estonian2.24.427.951.514.02.7134.5
Finnish3.64.921.724.022.82.8030.2
Finnish (Northeast)1.73.121.255.718.32.8626.0
Karelian.6.624.554.220.12.9225.7
Izhorian1.51.521.650.824.62.9524.6
Finnish (Ingrian)02.520.062.515.02.9022.5
Teryukhan03.118.759.418.82.9421.8
Finland-Swede.82.018.554.424.32.9921.3
Karatai0020.457.422.23.0220.4
Vepsian3.91.914.442.337.53.0820.2
Erzya.51.318.146.633.53.1119.9
Komi-Zyrian1.21.216.151.729.83.0818.5
Udmurt.91.514.337.346.03.2616.7
Moksha.21.714.147.336.73.1816.0
Komi-Permyak.72.611.246.838.73.2014.5
Udmurt (Besserman)1.6012.137.948.43.3113.7
Russian (Volga-Ural).21.111.947.539.33.2513.2
Saami0.69.742.447.33.3610.3
Mari0.27.438.753.73.467.6
Hungarian00.66.454.938.13.317.0
Tatar004.731.264.13.634.7
Chuvash0.44.330.165.23.604.7
Mansi002.727.469.93.672.7
Khanty002.222.275.63.732.2
Bashkir0.3.316.782.73.820.6


The sample size for both Estonians and Finns was over 1,000 (males only).
Multiple older sources as well. You already know what I think of the Karin study, but I get it, keep posting it for other people so they can decide. I'm almost done peer reviewing Blade's samples btw.

[Area51Defender]

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/an9rMzE_700bwp.webp

Does she not look super Finnish to you? I can find more pictures of her if you want.

[XenophobicPrussian]

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/an9rMzE_700bwp.webp

Does she not look super Finnish to you? I can find more pictures of her if you want.
Nope. Looks like an English/Benelux Sub-Nordid. There can be Finns that look like her(i.e Finnish beauty Emilia Pikkarainen, although she has a small amount of Baltid influence too), but it's still a western look.

[Area51Defender]

Nope. Looks like an English/Benelux Sub-Nordid. There can be Finns that look like her(i.e Finnish beauty Emilia Pikkarainen, although she has a small amount of Baltid influence too), but it's still a western look.

In what way is she Sub-Nordid? Looks fully Nordid or Baltid to me.

[Immanenz]

In what way is she Sub-Nordid? Looks fully Nordid or Baltid to me.

lmao.

[Jana]

Her facial features are NW Euro.

[Jana]

Cute goth GF skintone(no cute goth GF hair though, her blondness is fake but she's still medium-light brown haired), the most superiour skintone available on a female(males probably do want a tiny bit of a tan, although too much swarth and it starts to get repulsive), and that's coming from someone who tans really well.

I prefer totally untanned men. But I prefer myself with tan.

[Komintasavalta]

Multiple older sources as well. You already know what I think of the Karin study, but I get it, keep posting it for other people so they can decide. I'm almost done peer reviewing Blade's samples btw.

Like which ones? What physical anthropologists apart from Karin Mark and Juhan Aul have personally measured the pigmentation of both Finns and Estonians, or both Estonians and North Germanic peoples?

The paper by Heapost also said this:


It could be added that, according to Juhan Aul, the Swedes who used to live in Estonia before World War II were also somewhat darker-coloured than Estonians [1, 2].

The references were these:


1. Aul J. (1936) Anthropologische Forschungen in Eesti. Tartu Ülikooli Zooloogia-Instituudi ja –Muuseumi tööd. Nr. 19, Tartu
2. Ауль Ю. (1964) Антропология эстонцев. TRÜ Toim., 158.

By searching for "швед" in Aul (1964), I found this on page 27 (http://dspace.ut.ee/handle/10062/41630?show=full&locale-attribute=de):


У восточных финских народов волосы еще более темные. В большинстве районов у мордвы, например, преобладают темно-русые волосы (Марк, 1960), у марийцев 80,8% темноволосых (Бунак, 1924), у вотяков, т. е. удмуртов 75% (Sahm, 1929) и т. д.
У самых близких соседей эстонцев — у русских восточных окраин Эстонии — я мог отметить 37,6% белокурых, 25,3% светло-русых, 26,5% русых и 10,6% темно-русых и черных волос.
Среди латышей в северной Латвии я нашел 60,9% светловолосых лиц, 24,4% с русыми и 14,7% с темно-русыми и черными волосами, То же самое мог здесь констатировать уже Г. Бакман (Васктащ 1925). По данным же М. Хеша (Hesch, 1933) волосы латышей заметно светлее: 59 % светловолосых.
Среди литовцев М. Хеш (Hesch, 1933) нашел 67,2% светловолосых.
Сравнительно светловолосыми являются бывшие жители" острова Рухну: К. Хильден (Hildén, 1929) нашел здесь 79,0% светловолосых. Бывшие шведы Эстонии — как и шведы Финляндии — напротив, заметно более темноволосые: среди них только 65,6% светловолосых (Aul, 1937).
Среди шведов.Швеции констатировано 72,7% светловолосых (в том числе 3,3% рыжеволосых) и 27,3% темноволосых (Lundborg and Linders, 1926). В Норвегии X. Брин (Bryn und Schreiner, 1929) зарегистрировал 1,4% рыжих, 49,9% белокурых, 32,1% светло-русых и русых, 16,6% темно- и черно-русых волос.

Translation:


The eastern Finnish peoples have even darker hair. In most areas, the Mordovians, for example, have dark blond hair (Mark, 1960), the Mari have 80.8% dark-haired (Bunak, 1924), among the Votyaks, i.e., the Udmurts, 75% (Sahm, 1929), etc.
Among the closest neighbors of the Estonians - the Russian eastern outskirts of Estonia - I could note 37.6% blond, 25.3% light blond, 26.5% blond and 10.6% dark blond and black hair.
Among Latvians in northern Latvia, I found 60.9% of fair-haired faces, 24.4% with fair-haired and 14.7% with dark-blond and black hair, G. Bakman could already state the same here (Vasktash 1925). According to M. Hesch (1933), the hair of Latvians is noticeably lighter: 59% are fair-haired.
Among the Lithuanians M. Hesch (1933) found 67.2% light-haired.
The former inhabitants of the Ruhnu Island are comparatively fair: K. Hilden (Hildén, 1929) found 79.0% fair-haired here. The former Swedes of Estonia, like the Swedes of Finland, on the contrary, are noticeably darker-haired: among them only 65.6% are fair-haired (Aul, 1937).
Among Swedes, 72.7% are fair-haired (including 3.3% are red-haired) and 27.3% are dark-haired in Sweden (Lundborg and Linders, 1926). In Norway, X. Bryn (Bryn and Schreiner, 1929) recorded 1.4% red, 49.9% white, 32.1% light blond and blond, 16.6% dark and black blond hair.

Interpretation of hair color is so subjective that I don't place much weight on comparing hair color measurements by different authors. For example Aul wrote above that he found 25.3% of Russians living near Estonia to be light blonde, but in Heapost (2008), even Estonians are listed as only 2.2% light blonde.

A more solid piece of evidence is that Aul found Swedes living in Estonia to be darker-haired than native Estonians based on measurements he performed himself.

I also found Estonians to be more light-haired than Swedes, even though I think my methodology put Estonians at a slight disadvantage, because for example I probably failed to exclude some Estonians with recent Slavic ancestry (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?335358-Are-Swedes-and-Norwegians-lighter-than-Estonians&p=6966146&viewfull=1#post6966146):


- Players estimated to be native Swedes in Swedish men's top-level soccer league (season 2019-2020): 38.1% (56/147) light, 61.9% (91/147) medium and dark.
- Players estimated to be native Estonians in Estonian men's top-level soccer league (season 2020-2021): 41.3% (59/143) light, 58.7% (84/143) medium and dark.

I could've just as well counted about 60% of Estonians as having "light" hair instead of about 40%, because it depends on where you arbitrarily set the boundary between light hair and non-light hair. Actually I probably should reclassify the players using more liberal criteria for what counts as light hair, similar to the criteria used in your mega-study.

[Africanwidow]

Skin that pale is so disgustingly ill-looking.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Sweet. Lookswise she could easily be my little sister.

[MobyD]

Skin that pale is so disgustingly ill-looking.

I think she’s very pretty.

[de Burgh II]

Very attractive; looks very NW Euro.

[MobyD]

Very attractive; looks very NW Euro.

Well she certainly doesn't look Southern Euro, couldn't even if she wanted to :)

[MobyD]

She's a type 1 on the Fitzpatrick scale, very NW look. The mom looks more pan-Western to me, could easily be French or Iberian. It seems they got more of their dad's genes.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/28/02/39CA870500000578-0-image-a-32_1477618533915.jpg
https://afalona.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Elle-Fanning-family-mother-2-370x380.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/3a/79/8c3a79832e296571ec31ba5fc5eb130d.jpg
https://imagez.tmz.com/image/76/o/2016/10/27/76f0d20e9bf153818d430d584f9ffedf_md.jpg
https://extra-images.akamaized.net/image/79/16by9/2018/08/29/7930c566023f550cad35cd775d47249b_xl.jpg

[NSXD60]

PIE gold = PIE goal

[Sasaolo68]

Yes, I think she is atypical in many European countries for being extremely white. No one on TA is as white as she is.

I agree, she makes the palest members of that forum look like Southern Indians in comparison, very pale indeed, probably paler than some other pale Brits like Rooney.

[Andullero]

I agree, she makes the palest members of that forum look like Southern Indians in comparison, very pale indeed, probably paler than some other pale Brits like Rooney.

She could perfectly play a vampiress without much effort.

[Sasaolo68]

She could perfectly play a vampiress without much effort.

Agreed, with hair bleached to black she would look like a vampire easily

[Ruggery]

I agree, she makes the palest members of that forum look like Southern Indians in comparison, very pale indeed, probably paler than some other pale Brits like Rooney.

No member here has her skin tone?

[Sasaolo68]

No member here has her skin tone?

Idk, i think the closest would be Universe or Ellethwyn, i don't remember the others very well.

[Ruggery]

Idk, i think the closest would be Universe or Ellethwyn, i don't remember the others very well.

In the user photo thread a Dutch member (who hasn't been here for years) had pale skin and blonde hair, the Swedish-Finnish girl I think also comes close.

[Sasaolo68]

In the user photo thread a Dutch member (who hasn't been here for years) had pale skin and blonde hair, the Swedish-Finnish girl I think also comes close.

Who is that Swedish-Finnish girl? I don't remember very well, i think that IrisSelene was very pale too as far as i know, but for some reason i thought many members here have never posted their pictures on the forum. On the other way around, i don't think i have ever seen Batavia posting on some thread that isn't the pictures thread.

[NSXD60]

When the woke take over she'll more than likely be sent to an isolated camp for crimes of visual aggression, never to be seen again, like Lara in Dr Zhivago.

[MobyD]

When the woke take over she'll more than likely be sent to an isolated camp for crimes of visual aggression, never to be seen again, like Lara in Dr Zhivago.

Lol you’re fucked in the head.

[NSXD60]

Lol you’re fucked in the head.

Fuck off, MuddyD, your bastardized spewing has no relevance in the matter

[MobyD]

Fuck off, MuddyD, your bastardized spewing has no relevance in the matter

Lol bastardized spewing? That’s a new one 😂

[MobyD]

Fuck off, MuddyD, your bastardized spewing has no relevance in the matter

Please continue to wallow in your fake victimhood.

[NSXD60]

Lol bastardized spewing? That’s a new one ��

New to me, since I'm not one.

[MobyD]

New to me, since I'm not one.

Why are you such a hateful person?

[Universe]

Is Elle fanning too white for being typical in any European country except UK/Germany/Ireland?
She's too white for lyfe.

[Universe]

When the woke take over she'll more than likely be sent to an isolated camp for crimes of visual aggression, never to be seen again, like Lara in Dr Zhivago.
I disagree. I think she will transition and become the first TS president of the United States.

[Austrvegr]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYzVmOGNlOTctZGFhZi00MTczLTg1MTEtYTg3ZTNkNjQ2Yj RlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjYxNjc0OTc@._V1_.jpg

[Sasaolo68]

is there anyone paler than fanning on this forum?(or on the same level)

[Mortimer]

She looks English

[Roy]

She's too white for lyfe.

Elle Fanning cannot into Tanning.

[MobyD]

Her paleness is different from Lily Collins in the sense that she is FUCKING PALE.
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/137724809/photo/actress-elle-fanning-arrives-at-the-2011-mtv-movie-awards-at-the-gibson-amphitheatre-on-june-5.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=mcAXeh8Ui7C6pBriihRfP8bMCVc0spgbw7HbctjEc7A=
https://themortalinstrumentssource.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tumblr_lmcjk38cyx1qfmrn4o1_400.jpg

https://cdn.fansshare.com/photo/dakotafanning/elle-fanning-heading-to-music-lessons-in-los-angeles-body-954557672.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/08/a7/df08a7652137997a754951274462873b.jpg

[Vanily]

Maybe but it's her face what screams Northwestern Europe.

[Marshall Theodore]

She looks NW euro

[Kosteece]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f1/01/c4/f101c4965d1338b1a8849c4536e9d740.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VKr_qLfq0WE/We_TEEaJSKI/AAAAAAAAKI0/P_5VIxccAlUOCOmjHSUUf3j5rbOAv_OuACEwYBhgL/s1600/b97845441b0049d83688c2c189b51517.jpg
http://www.celebzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/elle-fanning-at-the-beguiled-photocall-in-cannes-_1.jpg
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/elle-red/elle-fanning-shows-off-fit-figure-in-studio-city-04.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/30/article-2351936-1A954D68000005DC-262_642x976.jpg

I'd love to see her living in Greece, especially Southern Greece.
Her defective skin would do miracles, there!