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Saruman
02-12-2011, 09:49 AM
Founder of Saudi Arabia, all Saudi kings since have been his sons. Pure bedouin Arabid type.
http://www.ramsat.net/upload/images/498/Abazez1.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/3259956.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834DF95E5C124795298C2D6200AEA00FA258 0ACFB0318981C9EF
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/50485798.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=E41C9FE5C4AA0A146983647750ACF53C8B269E4051F8A7B7 C74C10EDBE42A287B01E70F2B3269972
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1998/1948/pl_saud.gif
Curtis24
02-15-2011, 09:16 AM
This thread deserves a bump ;)
Saruman
02-15-2011, 09:39 AM
This thread deserves a bump ;)
And why is that?:D
2 pics got lost.
I think there are slight Cromagnid influences based on this picture.
http://coranix.org/106/ibn_seoud.jpg
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/95af2cca676c0b82_landing
His son Faisal - extreme Arabid.
http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2008/10/king_faisal_300px.jpg
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/F46BAF3F-78AB-4E04-9CEB-782EAC107496/BE083599.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/images/king-faisal_1.jpg
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_images/100427_faisal.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82645422.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548609E4A522097EC5C D3A7D98194D6ECB1A03680E8E99FFA4B
Curtis24
02-15-2011, 10:03 AM
Its just something I'm interested in ;)
Ibn Saud himself def. looks like some kind of dolichocephal type. However, from what I've seen, many of the modern day rulers of Saudi Arabia appear Alpinid/Asian Alpinoid. I can't say much of the other rulers you just added. What do you think?
And is the modern ruler of Saudi ARabia really a son of Ibn Saud??
Saruman
02-15-2011, 10:23 AM
Its just something I'm interested in ;)
Ibn Saud himself def. looks like some kind of dolichocephal type. However, from what I've seen, many of the modern day rulers of Saudi Arabia appear Alpinid/Asian Alpinoid. I can't say much of the other rulers you just added. What do you think?
Ibn Saud yes Arabid + Cromagnid it seems, maybe even some other tall type influence as he was very tall for his time.
I only added Faisal. Saud ibn Saud seems to have been possibly Cromagno-Alpinoid influenced
http://urbplandep.alriyadh.gov.sa/Uploads/Photos/PH_103.jpg
http://shots.ikbis.com/image/80666/screen/P1010185.jpg
http://sahat-wadialali.com/vb/uploaded/35_1264873807.jpg
Khalid the 4th king had more of Alpinoid influence
http://www9.0zz0.com/2010/02/16/07/848834200.jpg
Yet not as much if looking at his photo from younger days
http://www.arb14.com/trup/uploads/images/arb14-baf7c7df56.jpg
Fahd had though definitely more Alpinoid though
http://mousou3a.educdz.com/img/17_070085_01.jpg
And the current one probably Cromagno-Alpinoid influences
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/abdullahG_468x609.jpg
But still they all have Arabid as first/dominant element IMO.
And is the modern ruler of Saudi ARabia really a son of Ibn Saud??
Yes!!! Ibn Saud apparently had 22 wives. So his son is ruling even 58 years after his death!
Succession after Abdullah
By tradition, kingship has passed between brothers of one generation of the Al Saud family before descending to the next. Despite an outward facade of stability, the House of Saud is in turmoil over succession. The trouble is that half of the 35-plus sons of the country’s founder, King Abdul-Aziz, who died in 1953, are still alive. It is increasingly apparent that Abdullah and the 19 other surviving sons of King Abdul Aziz, the founder of "modern" Saudi Arabia who died in 1953, are either too old or do not have the experience or acumen to manage the affairs of the kingdom for much longer.
King Abdullah is 86 but his designated successor -- Crown Prince Sultan -- is 82. The apparent next in line is Prince Nayef, 77, the hard-line minister of interior. Succession has to go to their sons, the grandsons of Abdul Aziz.
Prince Nayef is expected to be made crown prince upon Sultan's death or even before. Prince Nayef is the Second Deputy Premier. In the past, second deputy prime ministers have been considered second in line to the throne. King Abdullah had left the post vacant since assuming the throne in 2005. In this light, Prince Nayef’s sudden appointment recently may amount to more than just finding someone to keep house while the king travels to the G20 meeting in London.
At the cabinet meeting on November 8, 2010, Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, chaired the cabinet meeting with no explanation why the king was absent. During the same month, King Abdullah transferred his duties as Commander of the Saudi National Guard to his son Prince Mutaib. King Abdullah had headed the force since 1962. Abdullah is credited with building up the once largely ceremonial unit into a modern 260,000-strong force that is a counterweight to the army. The Guard, which was Abdullah's original power base, protects the royal family. This was suggested as an apparent sign that the elderly monarch is beginning to lessen some of his duties.
Monolith
02-15-2011, 11:06 AM
http://www.ramsat.net/upload/images/498/Abazez1.jpg
Is he holding a rosary? :mmmm:
Groenewolf
02-15-2011, 11:09 AM
Is he holding a rosary? :mmmm:
Muslims make use of something similiar as well, so the answer could be yes.
Aramis
02-15-2011, 11:15 AM
Is he holding a rosary? :mmmm:
Misbaha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misbaha)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Tasbih1924.jpg/450px-Tasbih1924.jpg
StonyArabia
02-19-2011, 04:54 PM
The original Sauds were indeed Arabid and dark skinned for European standard even Southern Europeans as Arabids tend to be dark skinned often having brown skin with redish tones to it.
Ibn Saud is Arabid. However some of his family rather show minor Iranic influences. Iranic strain start dominating in Eastern Arabia and and large portions of Iraq.
Sarmata
02-19-2011, 05:27 PM
Orientalid nothing interesting in him...
Smeagol
10-27-2013, 08:10 PM
Arabid.
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