Classify Brazilian model and actor Anderson Tomazini

[Xacal]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/a4/c5/cea4c5d776dffa133e1c1b9023a9745e.jpg
https://uploads.metropoles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/25121849/Anderson_Tomazini_Alta-Res-4676_Laercio-Luz-Foto.jpg
https://www.otvfoco.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/post3-11.jpg
http://www.tribunapr.com.br/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2018/02/Anderson-Tomazini-divulgacao-tv-globo.jpg
https://observatoriodatelevisao.bol.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/xodo-anderson-tomazini-de-o-outro-lado-do-paraiso.jpg

[QUICAS]

I would say sexy mediterranean. But of course he is not 100% european. Persons like him and Cleo Pires are white limit (persons who transit between dark whites and light pardos)

[Heather Duval]

Xodó.

[Xacal]

I would say sexy mediterranean. But of course he is not 100% european. Persons like him and Cleo Pires are white limit (persons who transit between dark whites and light pardos)

he has a pseudo MENA vibe

[QUICAS]

he has a pseudo MENA vibe

True

[skain]

Mongrel

[Odin]

Octoroon.

[Heather Duval]

Anderson is an English surname but in Brazil people use as name because sounds like a man name in Portuguese

[Zroota]

He may be mixed with Amerind, but if he wasn't he could easily pass as a Levantine and Iranian (east-med + Iranid).

[Latinus]

Atlanto-Med.

[QUICAS]

He may be mixed with Amerind, but if he wasn't he could easily pass as a Levantine and Iranian (east-med + Iranid).

Really? Cause he looks lighter than most levantines or iranians

[QUICAS]

Octoroon.

He is too dark to be octorron and he probably has amerindian as well. I would say he is like 70% european, 15% african, 15% amerindian.

[Latinus]

He doesn't have negroid traits. It doesn't make sense to call "octoron" someone with 0% black traits. Sure, he might have black in his ancestry/genotype, but it's not visible in his phenotype.

[QUICAS]

He doesn't have negroid traits. It doesn't make sense to call "octoron" someone with 0% black traits. Sure, he might have black in his ancestry/genotype, but it's not visible in his phenotype.

Every person you say that does have africam blood when in fact its really common in Brazil where 80% of the people have african genes and 40-35% of the people show something african.

[Latinus]

Every person you say that does have africam blood when in fact its really common in Brazil where 80% of the people have african genes and 40-35% of the people show something african.

But classification threads are based on phenotype, not genotype. He doesn't have SSA traits in his phenotype.

[Heather Duval]

But classification threads are based on phenotype, not genotype. He doesn't have SSA traits in his phenotype.

if you are tri racial but looks more "mestizo" youre still tri racial
it doesnt matter what

[Sacrificed Ram]

East Med-CM. Really pass in Iran, even South Asia.

[QUICAS]

But classification threads are based on phenotype, not genotype. He doesn't have SSA traits in his phenotype.

I can understand you, but not at all. Because you said he cant be quadroon-octoroon because he does not show traits, but many octoroons dont show visible admixture like Brunna Linz Meyer or Debora Secco who pass in Western Europe and quadroons like Brunna Marquezine who could perfectly fit in Levant, Turkey and Israel. There was even one girl from Maranhao who was around 24% african and people said she looked slavic. So Xodo can easily have like 15-20% african blood more 10-15% of amerindian blood and look as an eastern med of levantine, turkish, israil due to his others 70% of Atlantid, western med, alpine, atlanto-med, dinarid or alpine-med blood.

[Heather Duval]

I can understand you, but not at all. Because you said he cant be quadroon-octoroon because he does not show traits, but many octoroons dont show visible admixture like Brunna Linz Meyer or Debora Secco and quadroons rarely times like Brunna Marquezine who could perfectly fit in Levant, Turkey and Israel. There was even one girl from Maranhao who was around 24% and people said she looked slavic. So Xodo can easily have like 15-20% african blood more 10-15% of amerindian blood and look as an eastern med of levantine, turkish, israil due to his others 70% of Atlantid, western med, alpine, atlanto-med, dinarid or alpine-med blood.
Debora Secco is at least 85% European. Her mother looks tri racial Pred European and her father is Italian.

[QUICAS]

Debora Secco is at least 85% European. Her mother looks tri racial Pred European and her father is Italian.

Yeah, she is probably octorron.

[QUICAS]

if you are tri racial but looks more "mestizo" youre still tri racial
it doesnt matter what

True. You can look castizo or mulato, but you still be trirracial.

[Latinus]

if you are tri racial but looks more "mestizo" youre still tri racial
it doesnt matter what

Pela milésima vez: classificações raciais são baseadas em fenótipos e mais nada. Ter um genótipo trirracial é irrelevante se não for visível no fenótipo.

Tipo isto:
http://admin.emprendedores.hachette.es/var/plan_site/storage/images/telenovela/los-rostros-de-las-telenovelas/mane-de-la-parra-biografia-el-vuelo-de-la-victoria/mane-de-la-parra-04/12525922-1-esl-ES/mane-de-la-parra-04_gallery_r.jpg

Chamar o cara acima de mestizo/castizo por ter uma uma avó (hipótetica) indígena sendo que seu fenótipo é bem med/espanhol. Entendeu?

[Heather Duval]

Pela milésima vez: classificações raciais são baseadas em fenótipos e mais nada. Ter um genótipo trirracial é irrelevante se não for visível no fenótipo.

Tipo isto:
http://admin.emprendedores.hachette.es/var/plan_site/storage/images/telenovela/los-rostros-de-las-telenovelas/mane-de-la-parra-biografia-el-vuelo-de-la-victoria/mane-de-la-parra-04/12525922-1-esl-ES/mane-de-la-parra-04_gallery_r.jpg

Chamar o cara acima de mestizo/castizo por ter uma uma avó (hipótetica) indígena sendo que seu fenótipo é bem med/espanhol. Entendeu?

Ele é, só não aparenta fisicamente. Halsey é bi racial, pai é Afram, mas parece branca.

[Latinus]

Ele é, só não aparenta fisicamente. Halsey é bi racial, pai é Afram, mas parece branca.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?230350-Classify-Mexican-actor-Mane-de-La-Parra

Classificações raciais são baseadas no fenótipo/olhômetro. Genótipo são outros quinhentos e não podemos fazer testes genéticos em todas as pessoas do mundo.
Mane de La Parra pode ter um genótipo misto, mas seu fenótipo é Spanish Med.

[Latinus]

True. You can look castizo or mulato, but you still be trirracial.

Classifications = phenotype. Calling someone (phenotype) triracial only aply if the three races show in his phenotype.

[Heather Duval]

Classifications = phenotype. Calling someone (phenotype) triracial only aply if the three races show in his phenotype.

Race = Genotype
White passings can have sons looking off white, even if their husband is a white man. Karina Bacchi looks clearly octoroon and she said to have black ancestry, but her parents are white looking.

[Latinus]

Race = Genotype
White passings can have sons looking off white, even if their husband is a white man. Karina Bacchi looks clearly octoroon and she said to have black ancestry, but her parents are white looking.

I know that race = genotype. But classifications are based on phenotypes.

[skain]

I can understand you, but not at all. Because you said he cant be quadroon-octoroon because he does not show traits, but many octoroons dont show visible admixture like Brunna Linz Meyer or Debora Secco who pass in Western Europe and quadroons like Brunna Marquezine who could perfectly fit in Levant, Turkey and Israel. There was even one girl from Maranhao who was around 24% african and people said she looked slavic. So Xodo can easily have like 15-20% african blood more 10-15% of amerindian blood and look as an eastern med of levantine, turkish, israil due to his others 70% of Atlantid, western med, alpine, atlanto-med, dinarid or alpine-med blood.

The girl from Maranhão is 14% african And 18% amerindian. Bruna looked more exotic before the plastic surgery

[Kivan]

Mixed.

[Odin]

He is too dark to be octorron and he probably has amerindian as well.

I don't see anything Amerindian about him. But he has the same mouth as this Quadroon.

http://b2.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p399766/Foto_0007.jpg

And not all Octoroons look white, Suzanne Malveaux is a good example of dark Octoroon.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F-2ybd60FlE/SZhfpybZCsI/AAAAAAAAIkk/fKSuRlsbRWI/s400/suzanne+malveaux.jpg

[QUICAS]

I did not said ALL octoroons look white, but like 4/5 of them. Google for Brunna Lins Meyer, Debora Secco or Karina Bacci. And like 2/5 of quadroons pass for white too. And more, here in Brazil we dont have exactly quadroon-octorron persons, what we have here is people like Mariana Ximenes, trirracials with like 86% european ancestry, 9% african, 5% amerindian(probably). Google Mariana Ximenes.

[Token]

Obviously mixed, i'd guess him as around 85% European.

[Sp_loa]

He looks West Asian. Many Hispanics have this vibe. Interesting.

[Heather Duval]

I did not said ALL octoroons look white, but like 4/5 of them. Google for Brunna Lins Meyer, Debora Secco or Karina Bacci. And like 2/5 of quadroons pass for white too. And more, here in Brazil we dont have exactly quadroon-octorron persons, what we have here is people like Mariana Ximenes, trirracials with like 86% european ancestry, 9% african, 5% amerindian(probably). Google Mariana Ximenes.

https://i.imgur.com/LYIa55V.gif

[Heather Duval]

He looks West Asian. Many Hispanics have this vibe. Interesting.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?236806-Why-many-Tri-racials-looks-MENA

[Heather Duval]

I don't see anything Amerindian about him. But he has the same mouth as this Quadroon.

http://b2.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p399766/Foto_0007.jpg

And not all Octoroons look white, Suzanne Malveaux is a good example of dark Octoroon.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F-2ybd60FlE/SZhfpybZCsI/AAAAAAAAIkk/fKSuRlsbRWI/s400/suzanne+malveaux.jpg

There are even blonde octoroons. Brazilian actress Karina Bacchi
https://observatoriodosfamosos.bol.uol.com.br/portal/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/23825245_1771198279559746_5489833558593765376_n-e1513014002547.jpg
"Descendente de italianos, africanos e espanhóis"
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Bacchi

Her parents looks white
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pais_de_Karina_Bacchi.jpg

[QUICAS]

Obviously mixed, i'd guess him as around 85% European.

Its too high for him. He is not an average white person in Brazil, this is guy is darker. Average white brazilians are 85% euro, limit white brazilians like him are 70-75% euro. Many persons like this guy identify as pardo.

[justpassing]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/a4/c5/cea4c5d776dffa133e1c1b9023a9745e.jpg
https://observatoriodatelevisao.bol.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/xodo-anderson-tomazini-de-o-outro-lado-do-paraiso.jpg
He doesn't look european nor african. I would've said pakistan or india had i not known his country of origin.

[justpassing]

Its too high for him. He is not an average white person in Brazil, this is guy is darker. Average white brazilians are 85% euro, limit white brazilians like him are 70-75% euro. Many persons like this guy identify as pardo.

Are whites extinct in Brazil ?
Are there actual, genuine european people over there ? I've never been there myself. But i've seen some Brazilians which i'd classify as european without hesitation.
This Brazilian girl looks European to me for example.

https://i.imgur.com/c8uiKf6.jpg

[justpassing]

There are even blonde octoroons. Brazilian actress Karina Bacchi
https://observatoriodosfamosos.bol.uol.com.br/portal/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/23825245_1771198279559746_5489833558593765376_n-e1513014002547.jpg
"Descendente de italianos, africanos e espanhóis"
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Bacchi

Her parents looks white
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pais_de_Karina_Bacchi.jpg

Her mother doesn't. Hard to tell about her dad from this angle though.
As for Karina Bacchi, from different angles, i can see something is off about her features. (lips, nose, brow ridge)
https://i.imgur.com/vY938K8.jpg

But it would be difficult to tell what her mix truely is. I can see that it's not a genuine european face yet she'd easily pass for white. But it's hard to point my finger on her origin.
Her husband (from the photo you posted and that angle) looks european to me.

[Heather Duval]

Her mother doesn't. Hard to tell about her dad from this angle though.
As for Karina Bacchi, from different angles, i can see something is off about her features. (lips, nose, brow ridge)
https://i.imgur.com/vY938K8.jpg

But it would be difficult to tell what her mix truely is. I can see that it's not a genuine european face yet she'd easily pass for white. But it's hard to point my finger on her origin.
Her husband (from the photo you posted and that angle) looks european to me.

i dont think her mother looks off white
http://s2.glbimg.com/JHvHArMq4iT4Wa1s74PTdmdxGIU=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina_bacchi_e_nadia.jpg

they look whiter than average brazilians
look them in a favela posing with kids
http://s2.glbimg.com/VkgBUESawn2QjCn2ASDbSgT8yTs=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina.jpg

[Sacrificed Ram]

Are whites extinct in Brazil ?
Are there actual, genuine european people over there ? I've never been there myself. But i've seen some Brazilians which i'd classify as european without hesitation.


There are some farms hidden into the forest where germans, poles, russian, ukrainians, lituanians live isolated from the rest of population, then they are full european lineage, but they are just a drop into an ocean...
http://www.loumarturismo.com.br/img/passeios-860x600/cataratas-860x600.jpg

[Xacal]

https://i.imgur.com/JtRkBMC.gif

[QUICAS]

Her mother doesn't. Hard to tell about her dad from this angle though.
As for Karina Bacchi, from different angles, i can see something is off about her features. (lips, nose, brow ridge)
https://i.imgur.com/vY938K8.jpg

But it would be difficult to tell what her mix truely is. I can see that it's not a genuine european face yet she'd easily pass for white. But it's hard to point my finger on her origin.
Her husband (from the photo you posted and that angle) looks european to me.

Those are not african traits, those are botox. Things that women over 40 do.

[QUICAS]

Are whites extinct in Brazil ?
Are there actual, genuine european people over there ? I've never been there myself. But i've seen some Brazilians which i'd classify as european without hesitation.
This Brazilian girl looks European to me for example.

https://i.imgur.com/c8uiKf6.jpg

Conclude by yourself
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238806-Classify-Latin-Americans-RS-Citizens

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238791-Classify-Latin-Americans-Northeast-Brazilian-Citizens

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238788-Classify-Latin-Americans-Brazil-Capitol-Citizens

[QUICAS]

i dont think her mother looks off white
http://s2.glbimg.com/JHvHArMq4iT4Wa1s74PTdmdxGIU=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina_bacchi_e_nadia.jpg

they look whiter than average brazilians
look them in a favela posing with kids
http://s2.glbimg.com/VkgBUESawn2QjCn2ASDbSgT8yTs=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina.jpg

She looks whiter than the average brazilian, but lets agree that people from favelas are not the average. Also, I think her mother is quadroon and her father white. Propably her mother pass as white in most countries too.

[Odin]

I did not said ALL octoroons look white, but like 4/5 of them. Google for Brunna Lins Meyer, Debora Secco or Karina Bacci. And like 2/5 of quadroons pass for white too.

I have classified them before.


There are even blonde octoroons.

I know.

[Heather Duval]

Brazilian actress Giovanna Chaves is a blonde octoroon, and white looking
http://contigo.uol.com.br/orinoco/media//images/raw/2017/07/31/giovanna-chaves-reune-fas-em-tarde-de-autografos-02.jpg

Her father is "black"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jiwX0AjSGd8/hqdefault.jpg

Her sis does show more negroid traits than her
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/shoCAHF0J2E/maxresdefault.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Brazilian actor João Guilherme Ávila is between quadroon/octoroon
http://fotos.caras.uol.com.br/media/images/large/2016/04/01/img-717383-joao-guilherme-avila20160401151459536555.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/3u8l7z4YIxqWJYIaUq6aM4dmctg=/620x466/e.glbimg.com/og/ed/f/original/2016/03/23/joaoguilherme-larissamanoel.jpg

His grandmother
http://static.sbt.com.br/media/playlist/20100209115700/20100209115717/20160108203043.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T6gFKCaPczM/hqdefault.jpg

[Xacal]

his grandmother looks gypsy
http://static.sbt.com.br/media/playlist/20100209115700/20100209115717/20160108203043.jpg

[Heather Duval]

his grandmother looks gypsy
http://static.sbt.com.br/media/playlist/20100209115700/20100209115717/20160108203043.jpg

shes tri racial

[Heather Duval]

no such thing as gypsy in brazil and with iberian colonial surname

[Xacal]

shes tri racial

Sim, eu sei, mas muitos tri raciais podem ter a aparencia de ciganos/indianos

[skain]

Duvido que a mãe da Karina Bacchi seja quadroon. Ela só disse que a bisavó dela era mulata. E ela não falou se é paterna ou materna

[Heather Duval]

Duvido que a mãe da Karina Bacchi seja quadroon. Ela só disse que a bisavó dela era mulata. E ela não falou se é paterna ou materna

O pai da Karina é o mais branco entre eles, então deve ser materna

[justpassing]

i dont think her mother looks off white
http://s2.glbimg.com/JHvHArMq4iT4Wa1s74PTdmdxGIU=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina_bacchi_e_nadia.jpg

they look whiter than average brazilians
look them in a favela posing with kids
http://s2.glbimg.com/VkgBUESawn2QjCn2ASDbSgT8yTs=/620x0/s.glbimg.com/jo/eg/f/original/2014/05/09/karina.jpg


Agreed. They certainly look more "white" than the type of people you generally see in the Favelas. Having said that, i'm not Brazilian. And maybe what looks white to you, may not look european to me.
I still have to get used to some of the lingo used around here. (adjectives like Faelid, Borreby, Atlantid, etc..) With that being said, i generally don't pay too much attention to one's eye, hair or skin color. I base my judgement on bone structure, facial morphology.

What i'm about to say may be very controversial for some. But i firmly believe that most Europeans (original/indigenous europeans) have a distinct look. And that many of today's "whites" (the "modern" whites) look the way they do because of race mixing. And this is usually how i can tell that something's "off" about someone's face.
I have yet to see someone mixed who actually looks like a genuine european. (maybe it does exist though). However i've seen plenty of mixed white people who'd pass for white
And i maintain that distinction. To me "European" is not the same as "white".

What do i mean by this? Well, we don't call asians "yellows" do we ? "white" is a vague concept. Mixed race people can potentially be "white". Some pure blooded East Asians can also be "white". Same goes with albinos.
And yet we're all able (at least i hope) to tell the difference between a Pakistani Albino or a Congolese, Chinese albino etc.. So whenever i say that someone passes for "white", i'm generally thinking about non-classical european facial features. And thus, differentiating these types of "white" people from actual "european" ones.

But again, that's just me. I don't pretend my approach is scientific, i just follow my gut feeling. Based on the people i see in my entourage, family, friends, ones i've seen in different european countries (Austria, Italy, Poland, Estonia, France, Germany, Romania etc.)

I think people of European origin are supposed to be less than 8% of the world's population. But we're probably (in reality) less than that. At least based on my criterias.
Again, i can't stress that enough, but that's just my personal opinion, there's nothing scientific about it. And i'm of course not trolling. But here is how i view and distinguish "white" (i.e. people mixed with asian, african or maybe not mixed but still look "off") vs "european". (people who actually look like my ancestors).


Now, let's take that white Brazilian celebrity. Giovanna Chaves (pretty girl btw) , to me (and again, that's just my opinion) she doesn't have european facial features. Why ? Simple. Imagine the same girl with black skin color.

https://i.imgur.com/VNdeIiA.png

She basically looks like a mullata. On the other hand, take a girl with actual european features, such as for example julianne moore (who is probably part ashkenazi though i'm not completely certain) , change her skin color, and it looks weird.
What's not european about that Chaves girl ? Shape of her eyes, nose, (shape + her nose bridge) , oval of her face + brow ridge. She does have white skin, pretty blue eyes, and she's blond. But the rest looks off to me.

Now you may not see it. Or you may think that i'm nitpicking because i've been informed that she's mixed etc...
But it's not my type. And i've got no beef against Brazilian people (love brazilian music, 2 of my top ten favorite mma fighters of all time are brazilian..Wanderlei Silva and Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira)

And to prove my sincerity, (and to make you understand where i'm coming from, so that you can see what i consider as "european")
Here is a collection of faces which i've categorized as "white" and "european".

"white" is the category where i'd put faces of people who pass for "white". (i.e. european/caucasoid). In other words, people who can potentially have blue eyes, pale skin,, blond hair... But who neither look asian, african nor european.
I've purposefully added people who (though i haven't checked their DNA), are apparently supposed to be of european origin.

"European", is what it is. Faces which i consider to be of clear european/caucasoid origin. (i.e. european cheekbones, brow-ridge, forehead, nose-bridge, oval of face).
Take Ellen Page for example. I have no idea what her racial background is supposed to be, but to me. (and at first glance), she looks hapa. (part asian). Maybe not half, maybe 20% or less, i don't know. But her features don't look like the typical european face i have in mind. But then again, some people from Finland also have asian-like facial features. (not all of them, but some do).
Again, i'm only sharing my point of view nothing more. So don't take it too seriously or the wrong way.
https://i.imgur.com/YpUQfIj.jpg

[justpassing]

There are some farms hidden into the forest where germans, poles, russian, ukrainians, lituanians live isolated from the rest of population, then they are full european lineage, but they are just a drop into an ocean...
http://www.loumarturismo.com.br/img/passeios-860x600/cataratas-860x600.jpg

I think i once heard that before but only for Germans. (they also have Polish, Russians etc? ) interesting.
I've also heard that Brazil has Japanese people. (both full blooded and mixed), maybe not a huge minority, but some live there too.

[Chaos One]

Well, being a genetical octoroon, things can get really hard to say what is what. My sister is blonde and has fair skin, but still an octoroon (although I'm considering octoroon using only SSA, if using other concepts I would be between Octo and Quadroon).

Odin, for example, classified me as "Pardo" (which I would agree depending the context), but he would probably give a different classification to my sister.

So, it's hard to tell.

[Chaos One]

I think i once heard that before but only for Germans. (they also have Polish, Russians etc? ) interesting.
I've also heard that Brazil has Japanese people. (both full blooded and mixed), maybe not a huge minority, but some live there too.

Isn't impossible to find some 100% Euro, but they are more common if you consider old people.

We also have 100% Mongoloid people, more than mixed here. Far more (including Korean-Brazilians and Sino-Brazilians). Japanese people just started to mix with brazilians as a group after the 3rd generation, before that just some exceptions.

[Adamastor]

He looks very similar to a guy I saw today in a Brazilian genealogy forum. The guy in question was 80% European, 12% SSA, 8% Amerindian. I think these percentages are similar to what Tomazini has since he looks overall ''Caucasoid'' but of MENA/South Asian variety rather than European.

Atlanto-Mediterranean with some minor extra-euro influence.