Classify me/Where i can pass

[Livin]

Hello everyone!!!!

[NSXD60]

Apparently the land of invisibility, because there is no image.

[Livin]

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Sorry guys i am posting from my mac!Cant do that from smarphone......I am so sorry.

[Livin]

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[Kivan]

East-Med.

[Abu Bakr]

Dinaricized Pontid.

People will say you are ''East-Med'' or ''Armenoid'' only because you're Pontic Greek even if you don't fit those phenotypes.

[Livin]

Ty brother.Did you see any armenoid influence?Nose and forerhead or lips?

[Abu Bakr]

Ty brother.Did you see any armenoid influence?Nose and forerhead or lips?

No.

You look like a Dinaric influenced Pontic-Med type.

[NSXD60]

Italy, Dinaric Med

[Livin]

Ty for your answer brother.In some other Greek forums and in arthroscape they told me that my nose and forehead are armenoid.And big lips have nothin to do with Europeans.Some guys in antheoscape told me that I fit perfect in Syria,Lebanon,Middle East and even Iran and Afghanistan...!!!My ancestors come all from Black Sea(turkey).Amyway ty!!!

[quirtydoodah]

You could pass anywhere in Mediterranean Europe and possibly a few Middle Eastern countries as slightly atypical white blend. Care to do mine?

[Kivan]

Ty brother.Did you see any armenoid influence?Nose and forerhead or lips?

Not really, i think your features are too "sharp" for Armenoid. You Looks East-Med with, maybe, some Atlantid influence. You reminds me this lebanese-brazilian youtuber:
https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/80902dab9c9ba6ca8994663427bdffa7/5B18377F/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e15/10890778_747524805361573_2051124356_n.jpg?ig_cache _key=OTMwNzUyOTU5ODM3NTM2MTMw.2

[MysteriousWays]

Dinarid & East Med IMO I think.

[Abu Bakr]

Not really, i think your features are too "sharp" for Armenoid. You Looks East-Med with, maybe, some Atlantid influence. You reminds me this lebanese-brazilian youtuber:
https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/80902dab9c9ba6ca8994663427bdffa7/5B18377F/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e15/10890778_747524805361573_2051124356_n.jpg?ig_cache _key=OTMwNzUyOTU5ODM3NTM2MTMw.2

They don't look very similar apart from a general dinaricized Med general look.The Lebanese guy would pass as Arabian, the Pontic Greek in the OP cannot pass outside Europe or Northwest Asia.

He could fit even as Southern French. The guy doesn't look extremely ''eastern''. Stop with classifications based on ethnicity.

[Kivan]

They don't look very similar apart from a general dinaricized Med general look.The Lebanese guy would pass as Arabian, the Pontic Greek in the OP cannot pass outside Europe or Northwest Asia.

He could fit even as Southern French. The guy doesn't look extremely ''eastern''. Stop with classifications based on ethnicity.
I didn't said they both look exactly the same, i meant they have some similarities(regarding about the face/skull shape) and the same Eastern "vibe". And he don't look Dinaricized Pontid to me.

[Abu Bakr]

I didn't said they both look exactly the same, i meant they have some similarities(regarding about the face/skull shape) and the same Eastern "vibe". And he don't look Dinaricized Pontid to me.

He looks much more similar to the Australian of Croatian descent Mile Jedinak (but way less CM- Dinarid influenced and more Med) than to this Lebanese you posted.

https://www.myfootball.com.au/image-service/team/575/player/59115

https://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/sites/fourfourtwo.com/files/styles/image_landscape/public/milejedinak-cropped_14gaaseg7kqc11rai65sa7idew.jpg?itok=_shf2B hZ&c=87b6d99828d88c1b8ffe17a08d24fc7d

[Livin]

Guys i want to know if a big forerhead its dinaric or armenoid trait!!Pontic greeks we have massive foreheads.My father my uncle and my grandfather were like monsters.In some other forums told me that only armenoids have sloppy forerheads....!What you say?

[Abu Bakr]

Guys i want to know if a big forerhead its dinaric or armenoid trait!!Pontic greeks we have massive foreheads.My father my uncle and my grandfather were like monsters.In some other forums told me that only armenoids have sloppy forerheads....!What you say?

You don't look Armenoid if that's what you want to know.

[Kivan]

He looks much more similar to the Australian of Croatian descent Mile Jedinak (but way less CM- Dinarid influenced and more Med) than to this Lebanese you posted.



[imghttps://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/sites/fourfourtwo.com/files/styles/image_landscape/public/milejedinak-cropped_14gaaseg7kqc11rai65sa7idew.jpg?itok=_shf2B hZ&c=87b6d99828d88c1b8ffe17a08d24fc7d

In my opinion, no. that guy's face is clearly more robust than the OP, and the cheekbones look different, he looks Dinarid + East-Med + CM(imo). Dinaricized Pontid looks more like this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Atdhe_Nuhiu_-_%C3%96sterreich_U-21_%281%29.jpg/400px-Atdhe_Nuhiu_-_%C3%96sterreich_U-21_%281%29.jpg

[JohnSmith]

I thought you looked a little like Joseph Stalin.

[Livin]

Abu bakr ty for your time brother, but I want to know my characteristics.A big forerhead it’s dinaric trait?I really believe that you are right with your classifation about me,and I ty a lot.

[Livin]

I thought you looked a little like Joseph Stalin.

Hehe Stalin was Caucasid mtbid right ????
A lot of Pontic greeks looks like him...
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[QUICAS]

East-med. Very balkanic.

[Livin]

East-med. Very balkanic.

East med and Pontid is not the same?Whats the differences...?

[Kivan]

East med and Pontid is not the same?Whats the differences...?

http://i42.tinypic.com/nxuhvs.png
https://i.imgur.com/e0WApfM.jpg

[Livin]

[QUOTE=Kivan;5081070]http://i42.tinypic.com/nxuhvs.png
https://i.imgur.com/e0WApfM.jpg[/

I am comfused now...!I am pontid or east med?

[Odin]

East-Med. Pass in SE Europe.

[Livin]

East-Med. Pass in SE Europe.

Ty my friend.Another one hard question.I am dochilo or Meso?I know it’s hard to answer but what you think?

[Odin]

I am dochilo or Meso?I know it’s hard to answer but what you think?

In-between.

[Livin]

In-between.

Ty for your time brother!!!

[Gangrel]

East-Med

[JohnSmith]

Sorry for the Ignorance but what is a Pontic Greek?

[EdwardS]

Pontid!

[Livin]

East-Med

Ty for your time brother!Did you see and dinaric or armenoid trait?I have massive forerhead and my nose is hyperleptorrhine and hooked.....!What you think?

[Livin]

Sorry for the Ignorance but what is a Pontic Greek?

Np brother!Its an ethic greek group witch come from asia minor(modern turkey)We are hellenized anatolians mostly and some are descendants from the greek colonies at the hellenistic years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks

[Sikeliot]

Anyone saying MENA is biased because they know Pontic Greeks are genetically West Asian.

[Livin]

Ty mate!Did you see any dinaric or armenoid trait?My lips are big for example...!Forerhead and nose are too big to be only pontid i think....!

[Sikeliot]

Ty mate!Did you see any dinaric or armenoid trait?My lips are big for example...!Forerhead and nose are too big to be only pontid i think....!

Dinaro-Med.

I think you fit well in Albania and central Italy.

[Livin]

Anyone saying MENA is biased because they know Pontic Greeks are genetically West Asian.

Indeed.But i have to say that the most of us dont look the same like the locals.For example its very hard to found my face in local greek population!Only in some cretans witch they have also taurid in them.(Sorry for bad engl)

Btw i am waiting for your classification.

[Sikeliot]

Indeed.But i have to say that the most of us dont look the same like the locals.For example its very hard to found my face in local greek population!Only in some cretans witch they have also taurid in them.(Sorry for bad engl)

Btw i am waiting for your classification.

Most Greeks look more "Balkan" than you, and you do look a bit more eastern Mediterranean but I still do not think you look full blown MENA.

[Livin]

Dinaro-Med.

I think you fit well in Albania and central Italy.

Ty my friend!In anthroscape they told mey east med and armenoid and that i pass only in middle east.....!!!Now i am calm xd....

[Livin]

Most Greeks look more "Balkan" than you, and you do look a bit more eastern Mediterranean but I still do not think you look full blown MENA.

Yeah i agree with you.But what about my eyes?What vibe gives you?I mean they look med or some kind of middle east(iranid,arabic,oriental).I have almond eyes like the arabs.......

[Livin]

Most Greeks look more "Balkan" than you, and you do look a bit more eastern Mediterranean but I still do not think you look full blown MENA.

Brother did you take my message or not?i saw your question....

[JohnSmith]

Dinaro-Med.

I think you fit well in Albania and central Italy.

He could be my Brother!

[Newsboy]

Dinaro-Med

You can pass throughout the Mediterranean Basin

[Zroota]

East-Med + Litorid

You can easily pass as a Cypriot, Kurd, Assyrian or Lebanese. Very handsome look overall.

[Livin]

East-Med + Litorid

You can easily pass as a Cypriot, Kurd, Assyrian or Lebanese. Very handsome look overall.

Ty brother,god bless You!!!

[Livin]

He could be my Brother!

Really?

[Livin]

Dinaro-Med

You can pass throughout the Mediterranean Basin

Ty brother. Where do i PASS?

[Corded]

Dinarized east-med

[Livin]

Dinarized east-med

Ty my friend!!!

[Aren]

East Med + CM. Handsome indeed hehe. We kinda somewhat look similar but I'm more swarthy.

[Livin]

East Med + CM. Handsome indeed hehe. We kinda somewhat look similar but I'm more swarthy.

Ty bro but where you see CM on me?My face is oval....I think I have typical med face.

[Aren]

Ty bro but where you see CM on me?My face is oval....I think I have typical med face.

Yeah you do look typically Med, but in the second pic it seems like to me that you might have some CM input.

[Livin]

Yeah you do look typically Med, but in the second pic it seems like to me that you might have some CM input.

Anyway ty.What is you really phenotype?

Assyrians=Sumerians-akkadians...!You should have a country brah.

Love Assyrians,they remind me Pontic greeks.

[Aren]

Anyway ty.What is you really phenotype?

Assyrians=Sumerians-akkadians...!You should have a country brah.

Love Assyrians,they remind me Pontic greeks.

I'm East Med too I would say. I let a couple memebrs classify me and they said East Med aswell. Yeah I think we are somewhat similar to you Pontic Greeks genetically speaking, more so than to other Greeks. You should try a DNA test.

[Livin]

Yes indeed.You are Christian?

[Carlito's Way]

74507

mexico

[Aren]

Yes indeed.You are Christian?

Well ofc(Catholic), but not particularly religious.

[Livin]

mexico

Hehe mestigo or Spaniard?

[Livin]

Well ofc(Catholic), but not particularly religious.

Ok!

[Carlito's Way]

Hehe mestigo or Spaniard?

you dont look spanish in those pictures
more like a castizo with sephardic ancestry, very common in mexico

[Xacal]

East Med

South Italy, Greece, Turkey, Lebanon

[Livin]

you dont look spanish in those pictures
more like a castizo with sephardic ancestry, very common in mexico

Hehe!!!
Anyway ty brother.

[Livin]

East Med

South Italy, Greece, Turkey, Lebanon
Ty mate!!!
Any Taurid(armenoid,dinaric)

Forerhead and nose se???

[Newsboy]

Ty brother. Where do i PASS?

In all countries of the Mediterranean Basin. But probably only Cyprus as typical.

[Livin]

In all countries of the Mediterranean Basin. But probably only Cyprus as typical.
Ok, ty For Your Time brother.

[waam]

Would not look out of place here in Israel.

[Faklon]

Some Tauromed whatever type, yes Pontic-Cretan-Cypriot would be my guess. Relevant look in Athens.

[Livin]

Some Tauromed whatever type, yes Pontic-Cretan-Cypriot would be my guess. Relevant look in Athens.

My brother can you tell me if my lips are armenoid? Isn’t too big for being med lips?
Anyway ty for your classifation.

[Livin]

Would not look out of place here in Israel.

Do I pass levant?
(Syrian,Lebanese,jordan,palaistinian)????

[waam]

Do I pass levant?
(Syrian,Lebanese,jordan,palaistinian)????

I can't speak for them but I think you do. If I saw you in Israel I'd assume you were a Mizrahi/Sephardi Jew (Jews from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Caucasus etc.) more than anything.

[Livin]

I can't speak for them but I think you do. If I saw you in Israel I'd assume you were a Mizrahi Jew (Jews from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Caucasus) more than anything.

They are mixed with Arabs?
Or they are true Jews?

[waam]

They are mixed with Arabs?
Or they are true Jews?

They have foreign input , but they also have original Jewish ancestry.

[Livin]

They have foreign input , but they also have original Jewish ancestry.

Ok nice!
Ty.

[Faklon]

My brother can you tell me if my lips are armenoid? Isn’t too big for being med lips?
Anyway ty for your classifation.

Nope, not Armenoid lips, med if something. Armenoids from Caucasus are not supposed to have massive lips, this is because people confuse them with Arabian types.

[Livin]

Nope, not Armenoid lips, med if something. Armenoids from Caucasus are not supposed to have massive lips, this is because people confuse them with Arabian types.

Aha.I thought I had armenoid lips!
In Greece big lips its very rare I think.
Th most people that I see(meds,alpines,dinaric,cromanoids) in thessaloniki have small and medium lips.
I was confused with my mouth.I believed that big lips are not caucasoid trait.
Anyway ty for your time!!!

[Tauromachos]

Simply Greek Med.

Don't see something particularly East Med leave alone Armenoid.

Your face is not that atypical for general Greeks "in my opinion"
Can pass as Greek Islander and also Southern Greek"Peloponnesian" quite easily "in my opinion".

[waam]

We have very similar lips by the way lol.

[Freeroostah]

East Med Bro!
You look very Pontic Greek in my opinion

[Bornoz]

Some sort of Med but I don't know.

Btw welcome bro :wave:

[Tauromachos]

East Med Bro!
You look very Pontic Greek in my opinion

I don't think he is East Med

Other than Pontic Greek or some types of Anatolians i don't find that he looks more typical Levantine than Greek
And a Pontic Greek look is different from East Med types of the Levant in my opinion

I know or have seen enough Greeks with Non Pontic origin who look similar to him

[Livin]

Simply Greek Med.

Don't see something particularly East Med leave alone Armenoid.

Your face is not that atypical for general Greeks "in my opinion"
Can pass as Greek Islander and also Southern Greek"Peloponnesian" quite easily "in my opinion".

But what about my forerhead and nose?
I think there is something taurid there.
Probably dinaric.

Anyway ty for your classifation!!!

[Livin]

Some sort of Med but I don't know.

Btw welcome bro :wave:
Ty brother!
Do I pass Turk from Black Sea???

[Livin]

East Med Bro!
You look very Pontic Greek in my opinion

Ty bro!!!

Yeah my face screams Pontic xd!!!

[Bornoz]

Ty brother!
Do I pass Turk from Black Sea???

I think so.

[Tauromachos]

But what about my forerhead and nose?
I think there is something taurid there.
Probably dinaric.


Yes but this type of look exists among Non Pontic Greeks as well

[Livin]

Yes but this type of look exists among Non Pontic Greeks as well
Yeah that’s true!

But in Greece the majority of locals are pontid and gracile med.
I think East meds are the cretans,Cypriots,Pontic greeks and some islanders.
What you think?

[Tauromachos]

Yeah that’s true!

But in Greece the majority of locals are pontid and gracile med.
I think East meds are the cretans,Cypriots,Pontic greeks and some islanders.
What you think?

I don't think you are East Med in the sense of a Levantine Med type.

You have some Taurid yes perhabs.

You fit particularly well in Crete yes.

On the other hand there are Mainlanders who look that way as well for examples some types of Maniots and Laconians.

I once met a guy who had this look but even a bit more exotic version,"he was darker than you."

And he was Sarakatsani Greek.

I guessed him as Pontic Greek to be honest and asked him but he said no he was full Sarakatsan.
Note that i don't claim that he was the most common representative of this group but i simply wanted to give you one
example to show that its possible to find people with this type among almost any group of Greeks.

[Livin]

I don't think you are East Med in the sense of a Levantine Med type.

You have some Taurid yes perhabs.

You fit particularly well in Crete yes.

On the other hand there are Mainlanders who look that way as well for examples some types of Maniots and Laconians.

I once met a guy who had this look but even a bit more exotic version,"he was darker than you."

And he was Sarakatsani Greek.

I guessed him as Pontic Greek to be honest and asked him but he said no he was full Sarakatsan.
Note that i don't claim that he was the most common representative of this group but i simply wanted to give you one
example to show that its possible to find people with this type among almost any group of Greeks.

Ye, i understand what You want to say and i agree with you.

Anyway Ty For Your Time.

[Tauromachos]

Ye, i understand what You want to say and i agree with you.

Anyway Ty For Your Time.

What you mean ?
Try classification?

I would say Pontid Med with some Taurid ,yes

[Bell Beaker]

You look Pontic. East Med! :)

[Gangrel]

Aha.I thought I had armenoid lips!
In Greece big lips its very rare I think.
Th most people that I see(meds,alpines,dinaric,cromanoids) in thessaloniki have small and medium lips.
I was confused with my mouth.I believed that big lips are not caucasoid trait.
Anyway ty for your time!!!

your lips are not even big

[Livin]

What you mean ?
Try classification?

I would say Pontid Med with some Taurid ,yes

Ναι ρε κατάλαβα τι θες να πεις.
Εχεις δίκαιο σε όσα γράφεις.
Απλά δεν ξέρω αγγλικά και γράφω λάθη πολλές φορές.

Με κόβεις δοχιλοκεφαλο η μεσοκεφαλο αδερφέ μου?

[Livin]

your lips are not even big

Not really!
Everyone says that I have full lips!
Full lips in Greece is pretty rare.
Most people have thin lips or medium.

[Livin]

You look Pontic. East Med! :)

Ty bro!

[WillyWonka]

You could pass in Cyprus, Italy and the Levant (not because you're Pontic Greek)

[Livin]

You could pass in Cyprus, Italy and the Levant (not because you're Pontic Greek)

Ok ty!!!
Can you classify me pls?

[WillyWonka]

Ok ty!!!
Can you classify me pls?

I'm not good at classifications. What are the regions of your ancestors? Are you 100% Pontic Greek?

[Livin]

I'm not good at classifications. What are the regions of your ancestors? Are you 100% Pontic Greek?

Yes i am full Pontic Greek.
Trabzon ,kars,Santa(modern Turkey).

[WillyWonka]

Yes i am full Pontic Greek.
Trabzon ,kars,Santa(modern Turkey).

Did you test yourself? I'm asking because most of the Pontic Greeks score more Caucasus than Italy\Greece with AncestryDNA and more Middle East instead of Balkans with 23andme.

[Livin]

Did you test yourself? I'm asking because most of the Pontic Greeks score more Caucasus than Italy\Greece with AncestryDNA and more Middle East instead of Balkans with 23andme.

Yes i know most of the pontic greeks are Caucasid and more west asian...!
I have not done the test....

[Tauromachos]

Ναι ρε κατάλαβα τι θες να πεις.
Εχεις δίκαιο σε όσα γράφεις.
Απλά δεν ξέρω αγγλικά και γράφω λάθη πολλές φορές.

Με κόβεις δοχιλοκεφαλο η μεσοκεφαλο αδερφέ μου?

Δεν μπορω να το πω με ακριβεια.

Μπορει να εισαι και πιο δολιχοκεφαλος απο μεσοκεφαλος δεν ειναι απιθανο αλλα δεν ειμαι απολυτα σιγουρος για αυτο

Εγω το αντιθετο προβλημα εχω.:lol:
Μενω αρκετο καιρο τωρα εξω απο την Ελλαδα και εγραφα απο τοτε μεχρι συντομα σπανια στα Ελληνικα

Η ορθογραφια μου στα Ελληνικα δεν ειναι οτι καλητερο ενω μαρεσει να γραφο Ελληνικα.

[Livin]

Δεν μπορω να το πω με ακριβεια.

Μπορει να εισαι και πιο δολιχοκεφαλος απο μεσοκεφαλος δεν ειναι απιθανο αλλα δεν ειμαι απολυτα σιγουρος για αυτο

Εγω το αντιθετο προβλημα εχω.:lol:
Μενω αρκετο καιρο τωρα εξω απο την Ελλαδα και εγραφα απο τοτε μεχρι συντομα σπανια στα Ελληνικα

Η ορθογραφια μου στα Ελληνικα δεν ειναι οτι καλητερο ενω μαρεσει να γραφο Ελληνικα.

Dont worry brother!
Ty for your time and your answers.....!!!!!

[Wrong]

East-Med + Taurid

[Livin]

East-Med + Taurid

Ty bro!
The taurid is somethin between dinaric and armenoid right?

[Wrong]

Ty bro!
The taurid is somethin between dinaric and armenoid right?
That's what I think yeah. I haven't read into it, but I've always considered it to be a blend of Dinarid and Armenoid.

[StonyArabia]

East med

[Livin]

East med


Ty for your time mate!!!

I can pass for arab or middle eastern?

[JohnSmith]

We look alike,:thumb001:

[Livin]

We look alike,:thumb001:

Send me pic on private xd!!!!

[JohnSmith]

Send me pic on private xd!!!!

I am sure you seen my pic before.

[Livin]

I am sure you seen my pic before.

Nope never!!!

I am pretty new actually to have seen your face.....

[Heather Duval]

https://i.imgur.com/HkBJEJi.gif

[MEDACHE]

We look alike,:thumb001:

ey bro i know you have dementia but didn't you say you were leaving this forum a couple of days ago?

[JohnSmith]

ey bro i know you have dementia but didn't you say you were leaving this forum a couple of days ago?

I will not let dementia dictate my life.

[Plaza]

You could pass as a local in pretty much any mediterranean country. Although you look obviously more european and east-med.

[cyberlorian]

Dinarid + East Med (I am not sure which East Med type but probably Pontid).

[Columella]

Mostly Southern Europe. Italy-Greece

[Smaug]

Pontid.

[Zuh]

Pontid and Armenoid I guess a handsome man you are.

[Marmara]

You would fit in Turkey with ease.

[Livin]

You would fit in Turkey with ease.

Hehe i know that!!!

What you think about my phenotype?

[Marmara]

Hehe i know that!!!

What you think about my phenotype?

I guess you are Pontid with Armenoid influence.

[DarknessWin]

Pontid - Dinarid

[MysteriousWays]

Pontid and dinarid I guess. Best fit is Greece

[Mortimer]

East-Med I think but some said East-Med doesnt really exist so Id say Ponto-Med. Classical Greek.

http://www.oocities.org/whpictures/greece4.jpg

[decordoba]

74505

Pontid - any Asian admixture

[decordoba]

You pass in Mediterranean contries, in Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia - and in West Asian countries up to Afghanistan

[Decius]

Armenoid + Pontid

[Livin]

Armenoid + Pontid

Where you think I can pass?

[frdfgcg]

Looks Mestizo.

[Decius]

Where you think I can pass?

Georgia, Turkey, Cyprus, Sicily

[Livin]

Looks Mestizo.

I have been told you million of times that I don’t want your opinion.

You are troll and probably drunk like all russkis.

[Voskos]

Greece and Georgia.

[Livin]

Greece and Georgia.

Greece?

Lol no turkey?

[Voskos]

Greece?

Lol no turkey?

i never seen a turk who looks like you. on the other hand you look like some georgians and caucasus greeks in my neighbourhood.

[Hulu]

i never seen a turk who looks like you.

Thank you. I was about to say that.

[Livin]

Thank you. I was about to say that.

Are you joking me?

I’m have been in turkey many times and the majority of locals passing me as Turk...xd!


The same with my trips in Northern Europe!

[Hulu]

Are you joking me?

I’m have been in turkey many times and the majority of locals passing me as Turk...xd!


The same with my trips in Northern Europe!

Your facial proportions are very euro med. I see you better as Sicilian or Maltese or Spanish or even light tunisin than turk.

[GiCa]

You look like some south Italians.

From Italy to turkey

[Livin]

Your facial proportions are very euro med. I see you better as Sicilian or Maltese or Spanish or even light tunisin than turk.

Hmmm ok what you think about classifation?

[Kivan]

Your facial proportions are very euro med. I see you better as Sicilian or Maltese or Spanish or even light tunisin than turk.

:picard1:

[Livin]

You look like some south Italians.

From Italy to turkey

Ty for your time!

What phenotype you think I am?

[GiCa]

Ty for your time!

What phenotype you think I am?

Mediterranean of the varieties of South Italy and the Egean sea

[Hulu]

Hmmm ok what you think about classifation?

Robust med

[Catarinense1998]

You look greek or even turks to me.

[DarkWater]

Pontid + a little Dinarid

[Livin]

You look greek or even turks to me.

I don’t look Greek if you want my opinion xd

;)

[Livin]

Pontid + a little Dinarid

Ty mate!

[DarkWater]

Ty mate!

Changed my mind after reading the descriptions. I think you are East Med with Dinarid

[Livin]

Changed my mind after reading the descriptions. I think you are East Med with Dinarid

I don’t really take serious the term east med but it’s okay!

Ty for your time.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I'm not an expert in classifications but I agree that a face like yours could pass a bit everywhere from southern Italy to Armenia, I consider you more typical for Anatolia though.

[idioteque]

Turkey... Italy (south).

[Livin]

I'm not an expert in classifications but I agree that a face like yours could pass a bit everywhere from southern Italy to Armenia, I consider you more typical for Anatolia though.

I dont pass in sardinia right? :)

[Marmara]

I don’t look Greek if you want my opinion xd

;)

What do you mean you don't look Greek? Do people guess you a different ethnicity in Greece?

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I dont pass in sardinia right? :)

Probably not.

[Livin]

What do you mean you don't look Greek? Do people guess you a different ethnicity in Greece?

In Greece everyone recognizes me as Pontian(nose,forerhead,skin colour),so yes i dont look exactly lke the locals.

Outside from Greece everywhere i went europeans thought i was Turk or some kind of Muslim from Levant(syrian,lebenese etc)

In my trips at istanbul and izmir your people passed me as a local :cool:

In Netherlands some turks come and talk to me turkish ;)
fee:

[Marmara]

In Greece everyone recognizes me as Pontian(nose,forerhead,skin colour),so yes i dont look exactly lke the locals.

Outside from Greece everywhere i went europeans thought i was Turk or some kind of Muslim from Levant(syrian,lebenese etc)

In my trips at istanbul and izmir your people passed me as a local :cool:

In Netherlands some turks come and talk to me turkish ;)
fee:

Well, you do look Turkish, Turks from where you originally are from all look like you.

[Livin]

Well, you do look Turkish, Turks from where you originally are from all look like you.

I want to go there a trip but i am afraid locals will fuck me if they see Greek plates on my car.... :p

I know that i look Turk because i am Anatolian. :eek:

[Tauromachos]

In Greece everyone recognizes me as Pontian(nose,forerhead,skin colour),so yes i dont look exactly lke the locals.


This sounds ridicoulos must be somewhere in Northern Greece.

I have have seen Southern Greeks with Non Pontic origins similar to your look.

In Crete for exampe but even in Southern Parts of Peloponnese.

Maniots can also look this way for example

[Marmara]

I want to go there a trip but i am afraid locals will fuck me if they see Greek plates on my car.... :p

I know that i look Turk because i am Anatolian. :eek:

Nah, we don't mind Greeks.

[Livin]

This sounds ridicoulos must be somewhere in Northern Greece.

I have have seen Southern Greeks with Non Pontic origins similar to your look.

In Crete for exampe but even in Southern Parts of Peloponnese.

Maniots can also look this way for example

Some Cretans and Cypriots can look like me indeed!!!

But locals everywhere i travelled in Greece looking way different from me.

In Northern Greece i have never seen someone look like me.


In my trips at Peloponesus and attica the locals have nothing to do with me.

I am very exotic for them.

Maniots looking like me?

You kidding me?

I went to Mani before 2 years and i felt like Arab there.

Maniots have unique faces and they are closer to southern italians and iberians.

[TheMaestro]

You look actually super Turkish(even tho Turkish hold many phenotypes etc.), but aswell Greek, super unique look and you perfectly fit from where your roots are (south east Europe bottom part + Turkey).

[WillyWonka]

This sounds ridicoulos must be somewhere in Northern Greece.

I have have seen Southern Greeks with Non Pontic origins similar to your look.

In Crete for exampe but even in Southern Parts of Peloponnese.

Maniots can also look this way for example

Even in Macedonia he can pass as a local, especially in central Macedonia (Kilkis, Thessaloniki, etc)

[KingOf]

Some Cretans and Cypriots can look like me indeed!!!

But locals everywhere i travelled in Greece looking way different from me.

In Northern Greece i have never seen someone look like me.


In my trips at Peloponesus and attica the locals have nothing to do with me.

I am very exotic for them.

Maniots looking like me?

You kidding me?

I went to Mani before 2 years and i felt like Arab there.

Maniots have unique faces and they are closer to southern italians and iberians.

lol you overreact too much bro...

[Tauromachos]

Some Cretans and Cypriots can look like me indeed!!!

But locals everywhere i travelled in Greece looking way different from me.

In Northern Greece i have never seen someone look like me.


In my trips at Peloponesus and attica the locals have nothing to do with me.

I am very exotic for them.

Maniots looking like me?

You kidding me?


I think you are kidding.

Peloponnese has absolutely people with similar looks.

If you can pass in Crete its nonesense that you cannot pass in Peloponnese at all.

There are Peloponnesians who have even more to do with Cretans and look more like them then with other Mainlanders.

How can you feel like an Arab compared to locals???

You are not even realy dark.
If anything your eyes might be exotic ..

[Livin]

Even in Macedonia he can pass as a local, especially in central Macedonia (Kilkis, Thessaloniki, etc)

Not really believe me!!!!

I have travelled all Greece i have been in many citiies and i never found someone looking simillar with me.

Local macedonian? No way.

Kilkis is full of Pontians so sounds logic.

But local Macedonian definetly not.

[Livin]

I think you are kidding.

Peloponnese has absolutely people with similar looks.

If you can pass in Crete its nonesense that you cannot pass in Peloponnese at all.

There are Peloponnesians who have even more to do with Cretans and look more like them then with other Mainlanders.

Who can you feel like an Arab compared to locals???

You are not even realy dark.
If anything your eyes might be exotic ..

I can look simillar with Cretans because many of them are Meds with taurid influences in noses and forerheads like me!!!

I have been 4 times in peloponesus and i never saw someone looking like me believe me.

As for my skin colour believe me if you see me from close you will change opinion.

I am really dark brown,like many cypriots and cretans.

[Tauromachos]

Even in Macedonia he can pass as a local, especially in central Macedonia (Kilkis, Thessaloniki, etc)

Fair enough comming from person with native origins from that region

[KingOf]

i think this Epirot Greek from near the border resembles you a bit.

http://ssl.superleaguegreece.net/img/uploads/big/145009724783.jpg

[Livin]

i think this Epirot Greek from near the border resembles you a bit.

http://ssl.superleaguegreece.net/img/uploads/big/145009724783.jpg

He looks Turk hahahaha!!!!

[KingOf]

He looks Turk hahahaha!!!!

he can pass of course but no way stereotypical Turk... he looks fine for Greece too

[Tauromachos]

I can look simillar with Cretans because many of them are Meds with taurid influences in noses and forerheads like me!!!


And you think there are no Meds with Taurid influence in Peloponnese or Deep Mani ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kw

Are you serious?

[WillyWonka]

Not really believe me!!!!

I have travelled all Greece i have been in many citiies and i never found someone looking simillar with me.

Local macedonian? No way.

Kilkis is full of Pontians so sounds logic.

But local Macedonian definetly not.

Ok, by local I don't mean a Macedonian whose ancestors used to live there for hundreds of years, but someone who's born and raised in this region. For instance, my maternal great-grandparents were born in Macedonia, but their parents settled there from East Thrace, nowadays Turkey.

[Livin]

And you think there are no Meds with Taurid influence in Peloponnese or Deep Mani ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kw

Are you serious?

This guy is pure Dinarid.

Not even close.


The Maniots that i saw were mostly of Atlantomed,gracile med,pontid,and some pure dinarids like this man.

[Livin]

Ok, by local I don't mean a Macedonian whose ancestors used to live there for hundreds of years, but someone who's born and raised in this region. For instance, my maternal great-grandparents were born in Macedonia, but their parents settled there from East Thrace, nowadays Turkey.

You coming to my words now.

I dont mean refugges from 1920 greco-turkish war but the locals who used to live there like Vlachs,Sarakatsanis,Jews,Slavo-Macedonians and other local ethnicities.

[Tauromachos]

This guy is pure Dinarid.

Not even close.


The Maniots that i saw were mostly of Atlantomed,gracile med,pontid,and some pure dinarids like this man.

He is not pure Dinarid

He passes much better in Crete than in West Balkans.

He can also pass as Pontic Greek in my opinion.

[Tauromachos]

lol you overreact too much bro...

I think he makes fun of us.

[Livin]

He is not pure Dinarid

He passes much better in Crete than in West Balkans.

He can also pass as Pontic Greek in my opinion.

He is Dinarid as fuck!!!!

And no he dont look Pontic.

[Livin]

He is not pure Dinarid

He passes much better in Crete than in West Balkans.

He can also pass as Pontic Greek in my opinion.

https://www.google.gr/search?q=kolokotronis&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK9Kn4zMzbAhWE2CwKHRoPCQMQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=3wVqE-Cwvz7rmM:


He looks like Kolokotronis another typical Dinarid!!!

[Tauromachos]

He is Dinarid as fuck!!!!

Nope
He is closer to Med than Dinaric proper.

Dinarics look more like the Golden Dawner Mixos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZzqZNLQTc




He is not even realy Brachy

In Crete at least he passe without a real problem.

[KingOf]

I think he makes fun of us.

he is just overanalyzing
ofc Pontians as a group have different looks but we are talking about a single individual here lol
Makedonia i agree is a stretch but Northeast Greek from Thrace he fits as local (i take account all of Thrace region where Greeks lived)

[Livin]

Nope
He is closer to Med than Dinaric proper.

Dinarics look more like the Golden Dawner Mixos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuIqkK7Kwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZzqZNLQTc




He is not even realy Brachy

In Crete at least he passe without a real problem.



Anyway after summer i am gonna do the test and we re gonna laugh with my results.

I cut my penis i will score Turkey,Armenia and maybe Iran.

[Tauromachos]

he is just overanalyzing
ofc Pontians as a group have different looks but we are talking about a single individual here lol
Makedonia i agree is a stretch but Northeast Greek from Thrace he fits as local (i take account all of Thrace region where Greeks lived)

Sorry man but what i find a little bit odd about him as also some Greeks users with Mainland origins.

Is that they are talking about the differences between different Greek groups as if they were beings from different Planets or
African compared to Scandinavians this is just ridiculous.

[KingOf]

Sorry man but find a little bit odd about him as also some Greeks users with Mainland origins.

Is that they are talking about the differences between different Greek groups as if they were beings from different Planets or
African compared to Scandinavians this is just ridiculous.

honestly with the brainwashing that has been going on here if i post my photo i will also have to post my entire family tree to prove that i'm 100% North Greek :p

[Papastratosels26]

Giannis is a typical Pontic Greek and no he can never passes in Macedonia(locals).

[Livin]

Giannis is a typical Pontic Greek and no he can never passes in Macedonia(locals).

Thanks for the support ;)

Θα με βγαλουν τρελο :confused:

[WillyWonka]

You coming to my words now.

I dont mean refugges from 1920 greco-turkish war but the locals who used to live there like Vlachs,Sarakatsanis,Jews,Slavo-Macedonians and other local ethnicities.

Oh okay then. LOL, you forgot to mention the descendants of Alexander the Great, the only "true" locals in my opinion. I would exclude Sarakatsanis and Aromanians where they were nomads and due this fact they can be found all over mainland Greece. I doubt also for Jews.

[Larali]

Greece, Turkey, very attractive

[KingOf]

Giannis is a typical Pontic Greek and no he can never passes in Macedonia(locals).

i agreed that Makedonia is his worst region to pass
Thracian Greek he fits
many Pontians pass as average Greeks though

http://seleo.gr/images/sinenteukseis_/ageris/ageris_03.jpg
https://studentlife.com.cy/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/greek-singers.jpg
http://www.typosthes.gr/files/1/2017/05/19/%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CE%AF%20%CE%A4%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%8 7%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B7.JPG

[Tauromachos]

You coming to my words now.

I dont mean refugges from 1920 greco-turkish war but the locals who used to live there like Vlachs,Sarakatsanis,Jews,Slavo-Macedonians and other local ethnicities.

Since 1920 Pontians are a local ethnicity of Macedonia

[Livin]

Oh okay then. LOL, you forgot to mention the descendants of Alexander the Great, the only "true" locals in my opinion. I would exclude Sarakatsanis and Aromanians where they were nomads and due this fact they can be found all over mainland Greece. I doubt also for Jews.

Local Macedonians exist but they probably mixed with slavs,aromanians,jews and other non greek ethic groups and ofc with asia minor greeks like me ;)

[Livin]

Greece, Turkey, very attractive

Ty :)

[Papastratosels26]

i agreed that Makedonia is his worst region to pass
Thracian Greek he fits
many Pontians pass as average Greeks though

http://seleo.gr/images/sinenteukseis_/ageris/ageris_03.jpg
https://studentlife.com.cy/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/greek-singers.jpg
http://www.typosthes.gr/files/1/2017/05/19/%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CE%AF%20%CE%A4%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%8 7%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B7.JPG

Indeed.

[Papastratosels26]

Since 1920 Pontians are a local ethnicity of Macedonia

Nope we existed even before Anatolian Greeks come in 1920.

[Larali]

Ty :)

Rica ederim :)

[Tauromachos]

Nope we existed even before Anatolian Greeks come in 1920.

So are Pontian Macedonian then?

[Papastratosels26]

Greece, Turkey, very attractive

Ty :D

[Livin]

Since 1920 Pontians are a local ethnicity of Macedonia

Macedonia During Ottoman Empire was a brothel region.

You could find aromanians,jews,slavs,sarakatsanis,albanians,greek s etc.

All these people after ww1 become the Greek local population of Macedonia (we laughing here).

It is very hard to see nowdays whos claim Alexanders the Great ancestors.

[Livin]

Rica ederim :)

hahaha i am not Turk hahahaha!!!!

I live in Greece xd. ;)

[Papastratosels26]

So are Pontian Macedonian then?

Yes but not native.Even they songs say <we lost our land>.They never saw this land as their.

[WillyWonka]

Local Macedonians exist but they probably mixed with slavs,aromanians,jews and other non greek ethic groups and ofc with asia minor greeks like me ;)

Sure, there is no such a thing as ethnic purity.

[Larali]

hahaha i am not Turk hahahaha!!!!

I live in Greece xd. ;)

Sorry, I just noticed that. My Turkish sucks anyway

[KingOf]

Macedonia During Ottoman Empire was a brothel region.

You could find aromanians,jews,slavs,sarakatsanis,albanians,greek s etc.

All these people after ww1 become the Greek local population(we laughing here).

It is very hard to see nowdays whos claim Alexander the Great ancestor.

easy as fuck actually.
those who maintained their Greek identity.

[Marmara]

hahaha i am not Turk hahahaha!!!!

I live in Greece xd. ;)

Do you not consider yourself Greek? Is this how Pontians generally feel?

[Marmara]

Sorry, I just noticed that. My Turkish sucks anyway

That was perfect though.

[Livin]

Since 1920 Pontians are a local ethnicity of Macedonia

We are the larger ethic group In Macedonia along with Asia Minor Greeks thats true.

Thessaloniki is refugees city!!!


Locals hate us :p

[Livin]

Do you not consider yourself Greek? Is this how Pontians generally feel?

From genetics side nope!!!

Culture,religion,and how i grow up definetly.

If we have war in the future i will kill you :p

[WillyWonka]

Yes but not native.Even they songs say <we lost our land>.They never saw this land as their.

So when does someone become a native of a region or whatever? Is there any time limit that should be considered? Probably after 1k years...?? :confused:

[KingOf]

We are the larger ethic group In Macedonia along with Asia Minor Greeks thats true.

Thessaloniki is refugees city!!!


Locals hate us :p

παραμιλας βραδυατικα μου φαινεται

[Marmara]

From genetics side nope!!!

Culture,religion,and how i grow up definetly.

If we have war in the future i will kill you :p

I would kill you too :p

I asked the question because I've seen one Pontic Greek (from Greece) who did not consider himself Greek.

[Tauromachos]

We are the larger ethic group In Macedonia along with Asia Minor Greeks thats true.

Thessaloniki is refugees city!!!


Locals hate us :p


In most regions where i have been Pontians are not hated.

And hate comes from many things Antagonism e.c.t.

I know even some Aegean Islanders who dislike Pontians ,being less Balkan or Northern shifted than Macedonians and more Asia Minor shifted
doesn't prevent them from hating Pontians if they are to do so.

On the other hand most Islanders don't hate Pontians :p

But in general most Greek people don't hate Pontians and view them as Greek

[Papastratosels26]

So when does someone become a native of a region or whatever? Is there any time limit that should be considered? Probably after 1k years...?? :confused:

.....

[Livin]

I would kill you too :p

I asked the question because I've seen one Pontic Greek (from Greece) who did not consider himself Greek.

hahaha!!!

Really?

If he said this from genetics side,he is right!!!

Maybe he was some extreme far left wing?

[WillyWonka]

We are the larger ethic group In Macedonia along with Asia Minor Greeks thats true.

Thessaloniki is refugees city!!!


Locals hate us :p

Bro don't spread bullsh*ts!! Local's don't hate you, at least not anymore. Noone gives a f*ck if their neighbors or o pepipteras are pontics or east Thracians..

[Tauromachos]

I asked the question because I've seen one Pontic Greek (from Greece) who did not consider himself Greek.

1 out of how many?

[Papastratosels26]

Ο καθενας το μακρυ και το κοντο του εδω περα .

[Livin]

In most regions where i have been Pontians are not hated.

And hate comes from many things Antagonism e.c.t.

I know even some Aegean Islanders who dislike Pontians ,being less Balkan or Northern shifted than Macedonians and more Asia Minor shifted
doesn't prevent them from hating Pontians if they are to do so.

On the other hand most Islanders don't hate Pontians :p

But in general most Greek people don't hate Pontians and view them as Greek

Well hating Pontians its okay,but hating Arvanites and Vlachs who saved Greece from Ottomans sounds retarted.

There are stupid people blaming Arvanites and Vlachs for many things.

You will find dumbs everywhere.

[Tauromachos]

Well hating Pontians its okay,but hating Arvanites and Vlachs who saved Greece from Ottomans sounds retarted.

There are stupid people blaming Arvanites and Vlachs for many things.

You will find dumbs everywhere.

I don't hate anyone.

[Livin]

I don't hate anyone.

Same here!!!

Look Turks for example, 1000 ethic groups and they are united with exception Kurds.

[Aldaris]

74505

Ugh. Lee.

[Papastratosels26]

Well hating Pontians its okay,but hating Arvanites and Vlachs who saved Greece from Ottomans sounds retarted.

There are stupid people blaming Arvanites and Vlachs for many things.

You will find dumbs everywhere.

I heard some nasty things about Vlachs..so sad....

[kleenex]

To me you have a strong East Med influence so I couldn't say you look like a Greek Islander. Cyprus would be a good fit or maybe Anatolia. You do have an Armenoid influence but it's probably a bit more subtle. You are East Med/Armenoid/possibly Pontid. I can, however, see a Greek influence in your phenotype.

[Papastratosels26]

Well hating Pontians its okay,but hating Arvanites and Vlachs who saved Greece from Ottomans sounds retarted.

There are stupid people blaming Arvanites and Vlachs for many things.

You will find dumbs everywhere.

I heard some nasty things about Vlachs..so sad....

[Tauromachos]

I heard some nasty things about Vlachs..so sad....

Some Vlachs say nasty things about others

So you will also hear nasty things about them.

Thats the way it goes

[TheMaestro]

Stop fighting guys and lets listen to this legend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girhxLIY5F0

[Marmara]

This guy is just from Trabzon, your area. Do you think he looks Pontiac or Greek?. (I believe he's Laz)

http://www.45skor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/yusuf-yazici.jpg

http://cdn.ntvspor.net/b5aeb6d93a544e318467b0f8656a1a40.jpg?&mode=crop&w=940&h=626.6666666666666

[Livin]

To me you have a strong East Med influence so I couldn't say you look like a Greek Islander. Cyprus would be a good fit or maybe Anatolia. You do have an Armenoid influence but it's probably a bit more subtle. You are East Med/Armenoid/possibly Pontid. I can, however, see a Greek influence in your phenotype.

East med phenotype dosnt exist.

Never take it serious!!!


I am mostly Pontid with Taurid(Armenoid/Dinarid) influences.

I have long face,my skull shape is meso with middle hypsicrany.
My taurid influences are in nose and forerhead.

My lips also are big witch is probably armenoid trait because everyone in my familly have very full lips.

And last my skin colour is really dark brown and i believe it has to do with armenoid influence becasue Pontids are not so dark in general.

[Livin]

Some Vlachs say nasty things about others

So you will also hear nasty things about them.

Thats the way it goes

There is a big rival with us hahaha!!!

There are some villages here in northern Greece with vlachs and Pontians.

Vlachs calling us Turks and we calling them Romanians hahahaha.

[Livin]

This guy is just from Trabzon, your area. Do you think he looks Pontiac or Greek?. (I believe he's Laz)

http://www.45skor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/yusuf-yazici.jpg

http://cdn.ntvspor.net/b5aeb6d93a544e318467b0f8656a1a40.jpg?&mode=crop&w=940&h=626.6666666666666

No he dosnt look Pontian.
Atypicall.

[Livin]

Ugh. Lee.

Ty

[Tauromachos]

There is a big rival with us hahaha!!!

There are some villages here in northern Greece with vlachs and Pontians.

Vlachs calling us Turks and we calling them Romanians hahahaha.

I know :lol:

But thats mainly because Pontians were newcomers to the region and were given land to build their own villages
and thrive there so this caused inevitably some hostility from the side of the local populations.




Hostility from the side of Pontics may have come also from the fact that Pontics themselves are somehow often competive and warlike characters and take
great pride in their own traditions and roots which they didn't want to give up getting to much absorbed or assimilated by the local cultures.

[Marmara]

No he dosnt look Pontian.
Atypicall.

What about this guy? This one is also from Trabzon and doesn't have Laz face this time.

https://cf.kizlarsoruyor.com/q6882147/3317ae8f-b8e7-4574-adb3-8187804154c4.jpg

[Livin]

What about this guy? This one is also from Trabzon and doesn't have Laz face this time.

https://cf.kizlarsoruyor.com/q6882147/3317ae8f-b8e7-4574-adb3-8187804154c4.jpg

He looks Greek but not exactly Pontian.

He can pass as local i think.

[Tauromachos]

http://cdn.ntvspor.net/b5aeb6d93a544e318467b0f8656a1a40.jpg?&mode=crop&w=940&h=626.6666666666666

I would see him fitting as Italian quite easily.

Perhabs even North

[KingOf]

He looks Greek but not exactly Pontian.

He can pass as local i think.

if by not exactly Pontian you mean he is atypical to be one then over 60% of Pontians of Greece don't look Pontian
he is well within range for Pontian Greek

[Livin]

if by not exactly Pontian you mean he is atypical to be one then over 60% of Pontians of Greece don't look Pontian
he is well within range for Pontian Greek

His eyes looking Pontian but the rest of characteristics seems more on a local greek person.

[KingOf]

His eyes looking Pontian but the rest of characteristics seems more on a local greek person.

i disagree but anyway...
these facial characteristics exist in many coutries... in Greece and Balkans and apparently Turkey as well
So this Pontian Turk looks Greek and you a (a Pontian Greek) look Turk... go figure

[Livin]

i disagree but anyway...
these facial characteristics exist in many coutries... in Greece and Balkans and apparently Turkey as well
So this Pontian Turk looks Greek and you a (a Pontian Greek) look Turk... go figure

I look more anatolian and middle east while he looks more balkan/south european.

[KingOf]

I look more anatolian and middle east while he looks more balkan/south european.

yes but my point was even Turks from Pontus can pass in Greece (i wouldn't say this one is average Greek in looks) and yet you act like Pontian Greeks are like complete aliens in Greece

[Marmara]

yes but my point was even Turks from Pontus can pass in Greece (i wouldn't say this one is average Greek in looks) and yet you act like Pontian Greeks are like complete aliens in Greece

Trabzon is genetically different than rest of Turkey. Except for Laz people and Turks at the western border of province, people there have no Turkic admixture and mostly have Pontic convert origin. Many of them aware of their Pontic Greek origins.

[KingOf]

Trabzon is genetically different than rest of Turkey. Except for Laz people and Turks at the western border of province, people there have no Turkic admixture and mostly have Pontic convert origin. Many of them aware of their Pontic Greek origins.

most of them are converts?
i thought converts were a minority

[Livin]

Trabzon is genetically different than rest of Turkey. Except for Laz people and Turks at the western border of province, people there have no Turkic admixture and mostly have Pontic convert origin. Many of them aware of their Pontic Greek origins.

This is true!!!

Some of them calling themselves Rums.

[Livin]

Trabzon is genetically different than rest of Turkey. Except for Laz people and Turks at the western border of province, people there have no Turkic admixture and mostly have Pontic convert origin. Many of them aware of their Pontic Greek origins.

This is true!!!

Some of them calling themselves Rums.

[grecoroman]

you look alot like

https://www.epo.gr/media/STOCK_PHOTOS/ETHNIKI_ANDRON/OMADA/NIKE/2014_BRAZIL/fetfatzidis.jpg
https://tmssl.akamaized.net//images/portrait/big/128931-1405018575.jpg?lm=1433143574


you could pass in the aegean islands

[Livin]

you look alot like

https://www.epo.gr/media/STOCK_PHOTOS/ETHNIKI_ANDRON/OMADA/NIKE/2014_BRAZIL/fetfatzidis.jpg
https://tmssl.akamaized.net//images/portrait/big/128931-1405018575.jpg?lm=1433143574


you could pass in the aegean islands



Do i look Turk?

What you think?