Classify TWO swarthy Croatians BOTH called Ivan Pešić

[Ayetooey]

Goes without saying these guys are both atypical. First Ivan Pešić, footballer from Šibenik.

https://hajduk.hr/sadrzaj/slike-za-vijesti/800x400/2017-06-13-17-23-6870-.JPG

https://hajduk.hr/sadrzaj/igraci/profil/2017-07-11-17-53-9127-.jpg

https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/3c/38/ivan-pesic-split_1p9lgiyqw0esp1ggaic0utr80m.jpg?t=-1929432500&quality=90&w=1280



Second Ivan Pešić, handballer from Rijeka.

http://www.seha-liga.com/content/images/2/1142_1396451321.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Ivan_Pesic_01.jpg/440px-Ivan_Pesic_01.jpg

[Pribislav]

1. Med

2. Gorid with Turanid influence

[CommonSense]

The first guy looks like a dark Iberian or a Sardinian even. Similar type to FilhoV - Med and Berid. The other one is a mix of East-Baltid and Mediterranid.

[Ayetooey]

The first guy looks like a dark Iberian or a Sardinian even. Similar type to FilhoV - Med and Berid. The other one is a mix of East-Baltid and Mediterranid.

I see some Turanic influence in the eye region of the 2nd dude.

http://www.be8player.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1_Pesic-Ivan_preview.jpg

The first guy looks alien, if I had to guess where he was from based on picture alone Croatia wouldn't even be in the top 15 lol.

[gıulıoımpa]

Berid+med (looks like an ancient med)


Turanid+east alpine or gorid

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[oszkar07]

Goes without saying these guys are both atypical. First Ivan Pešić, footballer from Šibenik.

https://hajduk.hr/sadrzaj/slike-za-vijesti/800x400/2017-06-13-17-23-6870-.JPG

https://hajduk.hr/sadrzaj/igraci/profil/2017-07-11-17-53-9127-.jpg

https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/3c/38/ivan-pesic-split_1p9lgiyqw0esp1ggaic0utr80m.jpg?t=-1929432500&quality=90&w=1280



Second Ivan Pešić, handballer from Rijeka.

http://www.seha-liga.com/content/images/2/1142_1396451321.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Ivan_Pesic_01.jpg/440px-Ivan_Pesic_01.jpg

wow the first guy can almost pass as Australian aboriginal , sorry to whoever gets offended but I have seen Aboriginals or part Aboriginals that have similiar look.
I agree his look is atypical for Croat.

Here below Australian aborigine or part Aborigine ...
https://au.carousell.com/p/naidoc-2017-strength-through-language-hoodie-hoody-aboriginal-art-painting-dot-112513843/

[Ayetooey]

wow the first guy can alomost pass as Australian aboriginal , sorry to whoever gets offended but I have seen Aboriginals or part Aboriginals that have similiar look.
I agree his look is atypical for Croat.

Yeah, the 2nd guy is atypical but passes as he does have a slavic look to him, he just also has Turanid leanings which make him atypical. The first guy doesn't look European in my opinion.

[oszkar07]

Yeah, the 2nd guy is atypical but passes as he does have a slavic look to him, he just also has Turanid leanings which make him atypical. The first guy doesn't look European in my opinion.

Yeh I think the 2nd guy passes although might not be overly typical but he fits.

I agree the first guy I wouldnt pick from looks to be Croat.
From those pics I could guess him as part non European.

[IncelSlayer]

Nothing med about the first guy, he looks almost n.african.He is actually the opposite of med, short stubby nose, beaner round eyes, close set eyes,overall a very short head etc

[Ayetooey]

Nothing med about the first guy, he looks almost n.african.He is actually the opposite of med, short stubby nose, beaner round eyes, close set eyes,overall a very short head etc

He does look Beridish. Did North African pirates invade Šibenik at some point lol; I go beaches near Šibenik when I'm on holiday and if I saw him in the streets I'd think he's a refugee.

[Kamal900]

The first guy looks Egyptian or Palestinian. The 2nd guy looks kinda Tatar. I think Alpine with Gorid and Turanid mix.

[Ayetooey]

The first guy looks Egyptian or Palestinian. The 2nd guy looks kinda Tatar. I think Alpine with Gorid and Turanid mix.

2nd guy probably has some ancient Avar admixture.

[Ayetooey]

Bump.

[Nurzat]

first one looks generic Mediterranean with a reduced CM frame

second one looks Alpine with a CM frame as well in a very Eastern European way, I see absolutely no Turanid, he would go unnoticed in Romania or Bulgaria I think

[rein]

You sure first guy isn’t some Arab?

[Insuperable]

You sure first guy isn’t some Arab?

He is just an atypical guy. It happens.

[cyberlorian]

1. Dinaridised Berberid

2. Turanid + Alpinid

[Zuh]

I find it hilarious how some people are very bias and butt hurt towards none Europeans . These guys look like Pardo Brazilians I'm sure if they were Latinos people automatically well be yelling for none Euro traits.

[Ayetooey]

I find it hilarious how some people are very bias and butt hurt towards none Europeans . These guys look like Pardo Brazilians I'm sure if they were Latinos people automatically well be yelling for none Euro traits.

The second guy doesn't look like a Brazillian at all, he has slavic traits just an odd eye region, I'm going with Alpine with Turanic influences. I agree with you on the 1st dude; he might be adopted from North Africa by Croatian parents or something.

[Zuh]

The second guy doesn't look like a Brazillian at all, he has slavic traits just an odd eye region, I'm going with Alpine with Turanic influences. I agree with you on the 1st dude; he might be adopted from North Africa by Croatian parents or something.

Stop I'm a Latin American myself so I'm aware of all phenotypes and pseudo phenotypes from Mexico all away to Brazil.


The first one looks pardo Brazilian and second one looks Mongoloid influenced Castizo.

[Ayetooey]

Stop I'm a Latin American myself so I'm aware of all phenotypes and pseudo phenotypes from Mexico all away to Brazil.


The first one looks pardo Brazilian and second one looks Mongoloid influenced Castizo.

There's nothing Castizo about the second guy he's Turanic looking but other than that normal, you're talking out of your bum hole. These people have nothing to do with Latin America which is thousands of miles away from Croatia so your expertise means very little.

[Zuh]

There's nothing Castizo about the second guy he's Turanic looking but other than that normal, you're talking out of your bum hole. These people have nothing to do with Latin America which is thousands of miles away from Croatia so your expertise means very little.

This is what I'm talking a none white European person can't speak anything about that truth because we get "attacked" that truth is they are considerable amount of "swarthy atypical " Southern Europeans who can pass perfectly in Latin America as none white.


Latin america is a big region you know? You don't need to be full Euro decent in order to resemble pan-resemble certain ethnicities!

[Phenix]

First: Paleo-Sardinian.
Second: Gorid + Taurid.

[Insuperable]

Stop I'm a Latin American myself so I'm aware of all phenotypes and pseudo phenotypes from Mexico all away to Brazil.


The first one looks pardo Brazilian and second one looks Mongoloid influenced Castizo.

First one looks strange/atypical, but I doubt he is anything other than Croat. There is nothing Mongoloid about the other guy. Just another Croat guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS501IBbgyo

[Insuperable]

There's nothing Castizo about the second guy he's Turanic looking but other than that normal, you're talking out of your bum hole. These people have nothing to do with Latin America which is thousands of miles away from Croatia so your expertise means very little.

There are thousands of Serbs looking like the second guy.

[Ayetooey]

There are thousands of Serbs looking like the second guy.

I know, he's not that atypical looking it's just his eyes, probably due to small amounts of avar admixture which can be found all across the region.

[Ayetooey]

I posted a thread about a Mongolian looking Serb last night so this thread isn't some attack on Croats btw if that's what you believe.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263378-Classify-Serb-singer-Zeljko-Vasic

[Eurafricanid]

1st - Pontid + minor Berid
2nd - Gorid + minor Turanid

[placebo]

second guy can pass in here

[Marshall Theodore]

First guy can pass here as pardo.

[Jingle Bell]

Trans-Med, looks berber
Turanid-Alpine

[Jana]

First looks Nafri and other Volga Tatar which is atypical but not overly rare among ethnic Croats. We are one of phenotypically most diverse Europeans.

[kevinmac]

1st guy looks Med = Textbook Portugese

2nd guy looks Khazikstani

[aherne]

1: pure Med (can pass from Middle East to Portugal)
2: Turano-Uralid (super atypical)

[Valenman]

It's going to sound funny, but first it happens quite well in Spain, it seems like a kind of mixture of Mediterranean traits and CM(berid), although it might not be very typical. Secondly it looks very strange, I hardly saw this phenotype among Romanians that I I know

[Laredo]

It's going to sound funny, but first it happens quite well in Spain, it seems like a kind of mixture of Mediterranean traits and CM(berid), although it might not be very typical. Secondly it looks very strange, I hardly saw this phenotype among Romanians that I I know

First guy looks caribbean Hispanic, and would be seen none European all over latm.

Second I need to see a frontal face Pic for better conclusions.

[Scarface F]

I think first guy could fit as Canarian?

https://static.slobodnadalmacija.hr/images/slike/2023/02/21/k_21100158_640.jpg

[Scarface F]

First guy looks caribbean Hispanic, and would be seen none European all over latm.

Second I need to see a frontal face Pic for better conclusions.

Second guy looks strange in a way he could be part Gypsy. But not necessarily. He has some Turanic traits too.
He reminds me of people I saw in Hungary and assumed were Hungarian-Gypsy mix.

https://img.24sata.hr/ZhkAoZGa0XbKynXv1rKIYnvlPOw=/516x290/smart/media/images/2021-47/stuttgart_0sbcNvt.jpg
https://d19p4plxg0u3gz.cloudfront.net/313872e2-8f28-11ec-a9ad-0242ac120025/v/ba03ebd6-9d09-11eb-8a41-cedfb09875dd/768x432-ba054e7c-9d09-11eb-870c-cedfb09875dd.webp?v=fqz6fqc0
https://static.jutarnji.hr/images/slike/2023/08/29/k_30242519_640.jpg
https://www.zagreb.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/PXL_280117_15426695-e1486549611820.jpg

He could be just a chinky Balkanite, but some mixed Gypsies look kinda similar too.

[Valenman]

I think first guy could fit as Canarian?

https://static.slobodnadalmacija.hr/images/slike/2023/02/21/k_21100158_640.jpg
In real life I don't know many canaries, but it's true that he reminded me of a couple of famous people from there.I also know people with similar features from the Iberian Peninsula, although not many

[Valenman]

First guy looks caribbean Hispanic, and would be seen none European all over latm.

Second I need to see a frontal face Pic for better conclusions.
First don´t pass as typical Dominican Common.But Puertorican or Cuban Probably yes

[Laredo]

First don´t pass as typical Dominican Common.But Puertorican or Cuban Probably yes

I personally think you Spaniards to need to lay off bullshit stereotypes, I know the average Spanish Is very uneducated about Latin America and it's people or assumes everyone Is pred Amerindian or Black.

He could pass from Dominican Republic to Cuba ofc DR Is the least white of the 3 but that doesn't mean much honestly.

[Laredo]

Second guy looks strange in a way he could be part Gypsy. But not necessarily. He has some Turanic traits too.
He reminds me of people I saw in Hungary and assumed were Hungarian-Gypsy mix.

https://img.24sata.hr/ZhkAoZGa0XbKynXv1rKIYnvlPOw=/516x290/smart/media/images/2021-47/stuttgart_0sbcNvt.jpg
https://d19p4plxg0u3gz.cloudfront.net/313872e2-8f28-11ec-a9ad-0242ac120025/v/ba03ebd6-9d09-11eb-8a41-cedfb09875dd/768x432-ba054e7c-9d09-11eb-870c-cedfb09875dd.webp?v=fqz6fqc0
https://static.jutarnji.hr/images/slike/2023/08/29/k_30242519_640.jpg
https://www.zagreb.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/PXL_280117_15426695-e1486549611820.jpg

He could be just a chinky Balkanite, but some mixed Gypsies look kinda similar too.

Looks European, passes all over latm too maybe without the exception Bolivia.

[Scarface F]

Looks European, passes all over latm too maybe without the exception Bolivia.

He reminds me of Morti.

[Laredo]

He reminds me of Morti.

I don't see It :( the chubby face or short broad cranium Is probably from Alpine /Gorid contribution P. S I'm not sure :P

[Valenman]

I personally think you Spaniards to need to lay off bullshit stereotypes, I know the average Spanish Is very uneducated about Latin America and it's people or assumes everyone Is pred Amerindian or Black.

He could pass from Dominican Republic to Cuba ofc DR Is the least white of the 3 but that doesn't mean much honestly.
In Spain there are many Dominicans and Cubans, not Puerto Ricans. But I admit that many Cubans pass for Spanish, but in the case of Dominicans 5-7% being very honest

[Pascoal]

First one looks somewhat a bit mixed, like some kind of mostly euro mestizo. Second one look med with some slavic influence.

[Lemurian]

Wow, I never saw a Croatian like that first guy before.

[Flashball]

The first guy looks like a dark Iberian or a Sardinian even. Similar type to FilhoV - Med and Berid. The other one is a mix of East-Baltid and Mediterranid.

Doesn't look sardinian but a gipsy.
You are just blind.

Second looks more normal.