View Full Version : Can this man pass in Azerbaijan?
Methuselah
02-04-2019, 09:04 PM
https://i.ibb.co/gvXL8r6/apr1.jpg
Phenix
02-04-2019, 09:12 PM
Looks Iranian.
Methuselah
02-04-2019, 09:31 PM
Looks Iranian.
Kinda yes.
Fibonacci
02-04-2019, 10:06 PM
Looks Iranian.
And many Azerbaijanis look Iranian
Phenix
02-04-2019, 10:09 PM
And many Azerbaijanis look Iranian
I was not so sure, and let more knowledgeable people answer.
Methuselah
02-04-2019, 10:09 PM
And many Azerbaijanis look Iranian
So Ossetians, Kurds and Azeri are Iranian? I think many people in Caucasus can look Iranian, no?
I take back my words. Iranian people look different in general.
https://i.ibb.co/K0GjZRC/M-105-kg-7-SZJ-resize-1024x703.jpg
Fibonacci
02-05-2019, 05:08 PM
So Ossetians, Kurds and Azeri are Iranian? I think many people in Caucasus can look Iranian, no?
I take back my words. Iranian people look different in general.
https://i.ibb.co/K0GjZRC/M-105-kg-7-SZJ-resize-1024x703.jpg
Azerbaijan is a different story. It is the only country in the Caucasus which has always been part of Iran. Many Iranian Azerbaijanis fled to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis fled to Iran. Azerbaijan has strong Iranian elements.
The Georgian in the middle doesn't look too much different than the Iranian next to him. The guy to his right also passes in Iran.
Fibonacci
02-05-2019, 05:10 PM
I was not so sure, and let more knowledgeable people answer.
The people from both regions are intertwined, culturally and genetically. Azerbaijan however has more caucasian elements than Iran. But many Azerbaijanis can pass in Iranian Azerbaijan so therefore Iran
Methuselah
02-05-2019, 05:15 PM
Azerbaijan is a different story. It is the only country in the Caucasus which has always been part of Iran. Many Iranian Azerbaijanis fled to Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis fled to Iran. Azerbaijan has strong Iranian elements.
The Georgian in the middle doesn't look too much different than the Iranian next to him. The guy to his right also passes in Iran.
You are right, they look quite similar. However, Iranians are usually visibly South Asian influenced, while Georgians are not. I guess Iranians in general are more likely to look Arab influenced as well. Not like Caucasus is not mixed. They are mixed people, from Chechens to Azeris.
user_
02-05-2019, 11:13 PM
The Georgian in the middle doesn't look too much different than the Iranian next to him. The guy to his right also passes in Iran.
You kidding.
This guy can't pass in Azerbaijan, let alone Iran.
He is in the middle
https://i.ibb.co/GQP4TCr/12363190-1623660991227735-1660367088703515828-o.jpg (https://ibb.co/CK032VS)
Phenix
02-05-2019, 11:18 PM
The people from both regions are intertwined, culturally and genetically. Azerbaijan however has more caucasian elements than Iran. But many Azerbaijanis can pass in Iranian Azerbaijan so therefore Iran
For this case, what country is more fitting? I go with Iran.
user_
02-05-2019, 11:18 PM
You are right, they look quite similar. However, Iranians are usually visibly South Asian influenced, while Georgians are not. I guess Iranians in general are more likely to look Arab influenced as well. Not like Caucasus is not mixed. They are mixed people, from Chechens to Azeris.
It's easier to distinguish Iranian among Geogians, than Ukrainian for example. I posted a picture of typical Georgians in previous post. They look nothing like Iranians.
This Georgian students pass in Carpathian mountains better, than in anywhere in Iran.
https://youtu.be/OatrQek3TNw
Fibonacci
02-06-2019, 12:20 AM
You kidding.
This guy can't pass in Azerbaijan, let alone Iran.
He is in the middle
https://i.ibb.co/GQP4TCr/12363190-1623660991227735-1660367088703515828-o.jpg (https://ibb.co/CK032VS)
Yes but i was specifically look at that picture. Compare the 2 in that picture. And yes he wouldn't pass in Iran nor Azerbaijan
Fibonacci
02-06-2019, 12:23 AM
It's easier to distinguish Iranian among Geogians, than Ukrainian for example. I posted a picture of typical Georgians in previous post. They look nothing like Iranians.
This Georgian students pass in Carpathian mountains better, than in anywhere in Iran.
https://youtu.be/OatrQek3TNw
most Georgians don't look Iranian but some do, I've seen them in person, they looked more Iranian than me. They were probably eastern. Anyway. there are many Georgians living in Iran, in their own established cities and they also intermixed with Iranians since 300,000 of them were forced to move to Iran. Their dna is apart of most Iranians. They intermixed with Iranians when Iran had a low population as well.
so 300,000 georgians probably had an influence.
They don't look Ukrainian at all. They look caucasian due to their strong caucasian features. They're just depigmented because of Georgias moderate climate. Georgians have the least European ancestry in all of the Caucasus. Well over Majority of their ancestry is west Asian, CHG
Fibonacci
02-06-2019, 12:38 AM
You are right, they look quite similar. However, Iranians are usually visibly South Asian influenced, while Georgians are not. I guess Iranians in general are more likely to look Arab influenced as well. Not like Caucasus is not mixed. They are mixed people, from Chechens to Azeris.
iran does have oriental elements but iranians have a distinct look. they wouldnt pass in neighbouring countries.
most of these iranians look pretty distinct to me. cant pass in neighbouring countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0wVjWaw34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xxm1h3dBXE
lameduck
02-06-2019, 06:01 AM
iran does have oriental elements but iranians have a distinct look. they wouldnt pass in neighbouring countries.
most of these iranians look pretty distinct to me. cant pass in neighbouring countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS0wVjWaw34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xxm1h3dBXE
Iran almost look like a European country to me , looking at infrastructure/cleanliness and even phenotypes of people is quite close to Europeans.
Pakistan is very backward compare to Iran lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHEbERhVI3w
Fibonacci
02-06-2019, 06:53 AM
Iran almost look like a European country to me , looking at infrastructure/cleanliness and even phenotypes of people is quite close to Europeans.
Pakistan is very backward compare to Iran lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHEbERhVI3w
remanents of what the shahs achieved through modernization and some what the current government, iran is old, most cities still have their ancient attributes like athens and rome. id say tehran looks pretty much like athens. iran is also diverse, tehran is the most populated city inhabited by all types of iranians. the people from the south are more oriental, the north and central move towards east med and east is shifted towards central asia (turkmen, afghans etc..)
user_
02-06-2019, 07:22 AM
most Georgians don't look Iranian but some do, I've seen them in person, they looked more Iranian than me. They were probably eastern. Anyway. there are many Georgians living in Iran, in their own established cities and they also intermixed with Iranians since 300,000 of them were forced to move to Iran. Their dna is apart of most Iranians. They intermixed with Iranians when Iran had a low population as well.
so 300,000 georgians probably had an influence.
They don't look Ukrainian at all. They look caucasian due to their strong caucasian features. They're just depigmented because of Georgias moderate climate. Georgians have the least European ancestry in all of the Caucasus. Well over Majority of their ancestry is west Asian, CHG
Georgians also have least south asian, east asian and south west asian ancestry among caucasus also.
I didn't said they look specifically Ukrainian, but they would pass in Ukraine better, than in Iran.
I have seen many Iranians here in Georgia, and they have very specific look. They do not look Arabs or Pakis, they have more Caucasus component. But when you look at Iranian groups in Georgia, they look alien.
lameduck
02-06-2019, 07:43 AM
remanents of what the shahs achieved through modernization and some what the current government, iran is old, most cities still have their ancient attributes like athens and rome. id say tehran looks pretty much like athens. iran is also diverse, tehran is the most populated city inhabited by all types of iranians. the people from the south are more oriental, the north and central move towards east med and east is shifted towards central asia (turkmen, afghans etc..)
Yes I can see that , When I see videos from Iran , Lebonon , Turkey , these countries remind me a lot of Mediterranean Europe but with little bit darker people.
Thats why I found it funny when people think West Asia is closer to South Asia than to Europe. South Asia is altogether a different world to both region(West Asia/Europe)
Oghuz
02-06-2019, 08:05 AM
I have seen many Iranians here in Georgia, and they have very specific look. They do not look Arabs or Pakis, they have more Caucasus component. But when you look at Iranian groups in Georgia, they look alien.
I agree, Iranians have very exclusive appearance they do not look like any other ethnic group in the region, specifically Persians.
Yes I can see that , When I see videos from Iran , Lebonon , Turkey , these countries remind me a lot of Mediterranean Europe but with little bit darker people.
Thats why I found it funny when people think West Asia is closer to South Asia than to Europe. South Asia is altogether a different world to both region(West Asia/Europe)
+1
Methuselah
02-06-2019, 01:20 PM
You kidding.
This guy can't pass in Azerbaijan, let alone Iran.
He is in the middle
https://i.ibb.co/GQP4TCr/12363190-1623660991227735-1660367088703515828-o.jpg (https://ibb.co/CK032VS)
That man is the greatest weightlifter of all time.
Methuselah
02-06-2019, 01:24 PM
most Georgians don't look Iranian but some do, I've seen them in person, they looked more Iranian than me. They were probably eastern. Anyway. there are many Georgians living in Iran, in their own established cities and they also intermixed with Iranians since 300,000 of them were forced to move to Iran. Their dna is apart of most Iranians. They intermixed with Iranians when Iran had a low population as well.
so 300,000 georgians probably had an influence.
They don't look Ukrainian at all. They look caucasian due to their strong caucasian features. They're just depigmented because of Georgias moderate climate. Georgians have the least European ancestry in all of the Caucasus. Well over Majority of their ancestry is west Asian, CHG
Well, some Georgians can pass in Ukraine (Like Jano Ananidze who i guess is part Russian) and some Ukrainians can pass in Caucasus. I think Lomachenko can pass. Not sure about Klitchko bros, they pass in Balkan better i guess.
Fibonacci
02-06-2019, 07:20 PM
Georgians also have least south asian, east asian and south west asian ancestry among caucasus also.
I didn't said they look specifically Ukrainian, but they would pass in Ukraine better, than in Iran.
I have seen many Iranians here in Georgia, and they have very specific look. They do not look Arabs or Pakis, they have more Caucasus component. But when you look at Iranian groups in Georgia, they look alien.
well iranians cluster with caucasians more than anyone else so why should that be a surpise? iranians cluster closer to georgians and ossetians than to tajiks for example. south asian and arab communities arent even in the same spectrum as iranians on autosomal graphs.
https://imgur.com/y2zrJl5.jpg
https://imgur.com/90lPg3N.jpg
Methuselah
02-12-2019, 11:35 AM
Bump
Arsen_
02-12-2019, 05:51 PM
https://i.ibb.co/gvXL8r6/apr1.jpg
He might pass I think. Actually Azerbaijan is not a homogeneous country and people of a very wide range of looks can pass there.
Methuselah
02-12-2019, 05:52 PM
He might pass I think. Actually Azerbaijan is not a homogeneous country and people of a very wide range of looks can pass there.
Thanks! Maybe he looks more Kurdish after all...
Papastratosels26
02-12-2019, 06:12 PM
Yes
Efauyo Arias
02-12-2019, 06:27 PM
Thanks! Maybe he looks more Kurdish after all...
I think he has Proto Iranid with maybe some Dinarid on his nose.
Yes, he could pass, but you're right, indeed, he looks Kurdish too.
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