Classify textbook Iranid man

[Oghuz]

Vahid Amiri

IMO he is a textbook Iranid persian man

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/irans-forward-vahid-amiri-looks-on-before-the-russia-2018-world-cup-picture-id979552126?s=612x612

https://www.euro-soccer-cards.com/2065-large_default/vahid-amiri-iran-184.jpg

https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/292837.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/73/3a/b8733a8f5340d85ebd93c2ab6d9f8877.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/78.media.tumblr.com/a39181ba75166c19f391666dc96e16a2/tumblr_pan0icZsZf1tf8a5ao1_500.gif?w=747&ssl=1

[SardiniaAtlantis]

That’s not the look I think when I think textbook Persian at all. He looks a bit Spanish.

[Oghuz]

That’s not the look I think when I think textbook Persian at all. He looks a bit Spanish.

He is close to Iranid morphs and fulfills majority of the characteristics as well.

Light brown skin, straight or wavy, brown or black hair. Medium height to tall, meso- brachyskelic, ectomorph. (Hyper-) dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic. Long, hyperleptorrhine, convex / hooked nose. Full lips, sturdy chin with marked facial features, sometimes almond-shaped eyes. Beard and body hair usually heavy.

He is from Lorestan (Zagros mountain area) which was invaded by Caspian Kassites, Medes/Kurds and later Persians. This area to me represent true Iranic identity.

[Gangrel]

Approaching Irano-CM. Can pass easily as a Kurd from my village

[SardiniaAtlantis]

He is close to Iranid morphs and fulfills majority of the characteristics as well.

Light brown skin, straight or wavy, brown or black hair. Medium height to tall, meso- brachyskelic, ectomorph. (Hyper-) dolichocephalic, mildly hypsicranic. Long, hyperleptorrhine, convex / hooked nose. Full lips, sturdy chin with marked facial features, sometimes almond-shaped eyes. Beard and body hair usually heavy.

He is from Lorestan (Zagros mountain area) which was invaded by Caspian Kassites, Medes/Kurds and later Persians. This area to me represent true Iranic identity.

Still not the image of the average Persian. He kind of has a Spanish look.

[Oghuz]

Still not the image of the average Persian. He kind of has a Spanish look.

He wont pass in any part of europe IMO.

Spain is mostly atlanto-med, med. I see no atlantid in him.

[lameduck]

iranid

[Oghuz]

iranid

Do you see him passing outside Iran with ease ?

[Oghuz]

Approaching Irano-CM. Can pass easily as a Kurd from my village

offcourse. Lur people are kassites, kurdish, persian mixtures

[lameduck]

Do you see him passing outside Iran with ease ?

i think he can pass as turkey kurd as well, his iranid type is more west iranid than east iranid

[Oghuz]

i think he can pass as turkey kurd as well, his iranid type is more west iranid than east iranid

Thats actually correct.

eastern side iranid is mixed with Iran_Neolithic / CHG.

[kleenex]

Seriously this guy would stand out like a pineapple in Europe. He looks like a classic Iranian. If I saw him on the street I would guess full Iranid nothing more nothing less.

[Knight Slayer]

Iranic.

[Oghuz]

Seriously this guy would stand out like a pineapple in Europe. He looks like a classic Iranian. If I saw him on the street I would guess full Iranid nothing more nothing less.

That is what I think as well. Hence the term "textbook"

[Oghuz]

Bump

[Papastratosels26]

Iranid

[Dna8]

He'd be even more textbook were his face a bit wider, IMO.

Handsome son of a...

[Oghuz]

He'd be even more textbook were his face a bit wider, IMO.

Handsome son of a...

He would become robust iranid or proto iranid then. I will post one such man.

[Dna8]

Taxonomy textbooks aside, the following gentleman is uber Persian according to my eye:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Masoud_Shojaei_2018.jpg/250px-Masoud_Shojaei_2018.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Masoud+Shojaei+Iran+v+Thailand+NxIHpSZCW09l.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/P841EA/saint-petersburg-russia-june-15-masoud-shojaei-of-ir-iran-during-the-2018-fifa-world-cup-russia-group-b-match-between-morocco-and-iran-at-saint-petersburg-stadium-on-june-15-2018-in-saint-petersburg-russia-photo-by-lukasz-laskowskipressfocusmb-media-P841EA.jpg

[Borealis]

i think he can pass as turkey kurd as well, his iranid type is more west iranid than east iranid

The difference is barcin

[Oghuz]

Taxonomy textbooks aside, the following gentleman is uber Persian according to my eye:



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/China_PR_%26_Iran_pre-match_conference_7.jpg/220px-China_PR_%26_Iran_pre-match_conference_7.jpg

Thats proto Iranid type. He is from Shiraz which is southern Iranian ancient city. It existed even before Iranic groups entered Iranian plateau. These people may show higher % Iranian neolithic.

To me this man represents the higher % of aboriginal Iranian population. These types mixed with IE Iranics (kassites, kurds, persians) to produce modern day southern persian iranians.

proto iranid type is native in southern iran and I identify it with more robust Jawline and bit darkish skintone.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hbz.h-cdn.co/assets/16/50/1481642058-hbz-121316-mcm2.jpg
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/77547-1405082627.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D4HR7D/iranian-actress-merila-zareibarzi-pictured-at-a-press-conference-for-D4HR7D.jpg

[Dna8]

^Nice post

[Dna8]

Proto Iranid?

https://photos.smugmug.com/Middle-East/Iran-Travel-Photos/Iran-Travel/i-6wpWzR2/0/e03a6638/O/6389601163_d6a9b013e7_o.jpg

[Oghuz]

^

Thats Iranid proper I think. He has a narrow face. Iranid is more closer to Pontid. While proto Iranid has more robust jawline.

This man is textbook or proper Iranid.

http://www.vagabondjourney.com/photos/1111-kurdish-man-son-gobekli-tepe.JPG

and this

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/J1K69J/los-angeles-california-usa-20th-apr-2017-actor-max-amini-attends-the-J1K69J.jpg

[Dna8]

^

Thats Iranid proper I think. He has a narrow face. Iranid is more closer to Pontid. While proto Iranid has more robust jawline.

This man is textbook or proper Iranid.

http://www.vagabondjourney.com/photos/1111-kurdish-man-son-gobekli-tepe.JPG

and this

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/J1K69J/los-angeles-california-usa-20th-apr-2017-actor-max-amini-attends-the-J1K69J.jpg

Cheers, man.

Interesting.

[Oghuz]

Cheers, man.

Interesting.

Thanks. You are a good poster

[Dna8]

Iranid Proper coloring, but Proto Iranid facial structure?

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Freddie-Mercury-001-web-optimised-1000.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/38/200938-004-6F2F7CB1.jpg

[Oghuz]

^

yes good catch although be careful with Persians from india because their maternal lineage is like 50 % coastal Indian. Mercury seems pure though.

https://data.whicdn.com/images/322877194/large.jpg

[Zroota]

Looks more South Asian or Pakistani to me in some pics, and even pseudo Iraqi Arab.

East Iranid + CM

[Dna8]

You guys have referenced the South/North aesthetic 'divide".. what is (if there is) the East/West equivalent?

P.s. to my hetero eye, Mercury was very handsome.

[Oghuz]

You guys have referenced the South/North aesthetic 'divide".. what is (if there is) the East/West equivalent?

P.s. to my hetero eye, Mercury was very handsome.

Yes mercury was handsome and very talented. I am a huge fan of rock and to me he is like the best ever vocalist along with layne stayley and chris cornell, kurt cobain. Jeez all are dead now.

[Dna8]

Yes mercury was handsome and very talented. I am a huge fan of rock and to me he is like the best ever vocalist along with layne stayley and chris cornell, kurt cobain. Jeez all are dead now.

For me,

Mercury greatest vocalist of all time.

All the ones you mentioned are special (Cornell, most special, according to my taste).

[Oghuz]

For me,

Mercury greatest vocalist of all time.

All the ones you mentioned are special (Cornell, most special, according to my taste).

reminded me of my childhood. lol

[Dna8]

If I recall correctly, Mercury's (Bulsara's) mom and sister look more Indic than him.

[Negah]

He kind of has a Spanish look.

I don't think so.

[Negah]

If I recall correctly, Mercury's (Bulsara's) mom and sister look more Indic than him.

The mother does look Indian. I think the sister looks more Iranian too.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wh3cI4U8CTc/maxresdefault.jpg

[Negah]

offcourse. Lur people are kassites, kurdish, persian mixtures

He best fits the Bakhtiar/Lur region of Iran.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Still not the image of the average Persian. He kind of has a Spanish look.

Lmaooo then Persians look Spanish then because he is very typical average Iranian. Some can look western but he isn’t even one I would describe in such a way

[Oghuz]

He best fits the Bakhtiar/Lur region of Iran.

He actually is a Lur. Rural background.

[Negah]

He actually is a Lur. Rural background.

Yes, He is from khorramabad. He is a lur. Avery common look among them.

[Oghuz]

Yes, He is from khorramabad. He is a lur. Avery common look among them.

Agreed.

Now that I am giving it a thought, the Lurs that I know are more closer to Iranid and proto iranid phenotype than anyone else. More you go up in Iran more away from proto iranid features you get.

[Borealis]

That’s not the look I think when I think textbook Persian at all. He looks a bit Spanish.

agree 3rd pic esp.

[Oghuz]

Yes, He is from khorramabad. He is a lur. Avery common look among them.

Agreed.

Now that I am giving it a thought, the Lurs that I know are more closer to Iranid and proto iranid phenotype than anyone else. More you go up in Iran more away from proto iranid features you get.

[Joso]

Iranid, yes.

[Gangrel]

Agreed.

Now that I am giving it a thought, the Lurs that I know are more closer to Iranid and proto iranid phenotype than anyone else. More you go up in Iran more away from proto iranid features you get.

Can't be true. Proto Iranid is stereotypical Kurdish phenotype.

[thracian_bro]

Yep, iranid.

[kevinmac]

He easily passes in southern europe. Soccer players get a ton of sun which makes skin darker. He is not as exotic as it seems. That said, I would say Iranid.

[21993]

Iranid

[justTosee]

Iranid yes, but not really "Persian" looking

[Oghuz]

I love it when European members come to Iranian classification threads and start throwing labels like "European looking" to regular Iranid types just because they can not understand that Iranid phenotype has same measurements as Atlantid, Atlanto med, Pontid, North pontid.

This man would not pass in Europe, he will pass in Iran where he is from. He is a Lur ... an intermediate between proto Iranid Kurdish and Iranid persian type.

[Negah]

Taxonomy textbooks aside, the following gentleman is uber Persian according to my eye:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Masoud_Shojaei_2018.jpg/250px-Masoud_Shojaei_2018.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Masoud+Shojaei+Iran+v+Thailand+NxIHpSZCW09l.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/P841EA/saint-petersburg-russia-june-15-masoud-shojaei-of-ir-iran-during-the-2018-fifa-world-cup-russia-group-b-match-between-morocco-and-iran-at-saint-petersburg-stadium-on-june-15-2018-in-saint-petersburg-russia-photo-by-lukasz-laskowskipressfocusmb-media-P841EA.jpg

Masoud Shojaie is a Qashqai Turk. But yes, he has the look of Good looking Iranian. Very Handsome

[Negah]

Nvm

[Joso]

Mostly a data corded or keltic nordid with CM influence of the aurignacid variant.

[ВЛАД]

Very dark pigmented Pontid :wink or PERSID ;)