Classify/guess councilors

[cass]

https://i.ibb.co/qDGgcSP/1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/DzYr6YT/2.jpg (https://ibb.co/ydp4Mp7)
https://i.ibb.co/7nGFsTS/3.jpg (https://ibb.co/6H45jpy)
https://i.ibb.co/3hJzMsL/4.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/W5cpmns/5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/Z6bZ20v/6.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/0ydv0jL/7.jpg (https://ibb.co/VYP5FWG)
https://i.ibb.co/7r3WSrL/8.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/gzLKKj1/9.jpg (https://ibb.co/Tmx33vX)
https://i.ibb.co/YjJh852/11.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/wMcTcdj/12.jpg (https://ibb.co/m6NmNRg)
https://i.ibb.co/fNLHJnF/13.jpg (https://ibb.co/hdwV0Z9)
https://i.ibb.co/vdC86h8/48d495b2d7.jpg (https://ibb.co/DMPnHYn)
https://i.ibb.co/Xx9TtZy/23172b150b.jpg (https://ibb.co/s9hrqv5)
https://i.ibb.co/jgRcnH2/55191d928f.jpg (https://ibb.co/syH08tG)
https://i.ibb.co/x5FxkcS/a484b822bc.jpg (https://ibb.co/Jk3D1bR)
https://i.ibb.co/cFKnBPD/da232154d5.jpg (https://ibb.co/d2sYTSG)

they are all from the same town

[cass]

bump

[cass]

bump

[cass]

Is it so difficult? They seems to be representative for this region.

[Deneb]

Some look German, others look Slavic. Czech, Hungarian?

[cass]

Some look German, others look Slavic. Czech, Hungarian?

Interesting. Any more guesses?

[Satem]

I'm gonna say Austrian

[Ülev]

Czechia

[cass]

Czechia

Good try but no. :)

[Viridian1]

Central Euro looking. From Germany to Hungary. Mostly Alpinids and Norids. I guess Germans, Bayern.

[cass]

Central Euro looking. From Germany to Hungary. Mostly Alpinids and Norids. I guess Germans.

Bingo!
https://pegnitz.de/rathaus/stadtrat/mitglieder/

They are Kauperfranken from Jura. Right in the German Laponoid belt stretching from Baden.

According to stats Kauperfranken should have 46,8% Laponoid element, 21,4% Armenoid, 12,2% Med. and 19,6% Nordid. Interesting that Laponoid is even stronger in this region then among Czechs (41% Ch. Tronicek 1960).

[Dean K]

Russian from the caucas region for sure

[cass]

Russian from the caucas region for sure

Why? Have you been there?

[Dean K]

Yeah They between Georgian to Russian Volga Ural region

[cass]

Yeah They between Georgian to Russian Volga Ural region

Sorry to disappoint you... the game has already ended.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?281372-Classify-guess-councilors&p=6660924&viewfull=1#post6660924

[Viridian1]

I guess the Laponoid element must be huge among Poles?

[cass]

I guess the Laponoid element must be huge among Poles?

It used to be a dominant element in S.Poland.
https://i.ibb.co/ChSSQtZ/gorny-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/dGHHDcq)
But still not at the level seen in Germany
https://i.ibb.co/XFsRp3D/nn73hv.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

[Viridian1]

It used to be a dominant element in S.Poland.
https://i.ibb.co/ChSSQtZ/gorny-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/dGHHDcq)
But still not at the level seen in Germany
https://i.ibb.co/XFsRp3D/nn73hv.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

So is it what Lundman named Gorid?

[cass]

So is it what Lundman named Gorid?

Yes indeed although this is part of Alpinid area from France to Ukraine.


Eickstedt presented concentration of his Ostische (oder Alpin) rasse further west.
https://i.ibb.co/CV2VWhH/31619jl.jpg (https://ibb.co/wpspYMz)

Synonyms of different taxonomic models
https://i.ibb.co/H4S9b9T/IMG-20200401-0002.jpg (https://ibb.co/mTjP2P5)

[cass]

Frankly speaking I wouldn't rely on 100yo data since modern secular changes in height and cranial features (debrachycephalization) are well described.
In extreme cases cephalic index decreases for about 8 units in 80 years and average height increased more then 10cm.

[Viridian1]

Frankly speaking I wouldn't rely on 100yo data since modern secular changes in height and cranial features (debrachycephalization) are well described.
In extreme cases cephalic index decreases for about 8 units in 80 years and average height increased more then 10cm.

What's the title of the polish book? Is it from Czekanowski?

[cass]

So is it what Lundman named Gorid?

IMHO nowadays it's dificult to find Lundman's Gorid example among the most southern Poles

Zakopane mountianers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALOZ6cOIcc

[Viridian1]

IMHO nowadays it's dificult to find Lundman's Gorid example among the most southern Poles



My imagination of Gorid:

https://i.ibb.co/R41PXmH/gorid.jpg (https://ibb.co/DgNkByK)

[cass]

What's the title of the polish book? Is it from Czekanowski?

Do you mean info on secular trend. There are late studies.
https://www.google.pl/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00TjKy8Rq0X6sMwq4XrZe9PNMFyaQ%3A 1588171662079&source=hp&ei=jpOpXr7UAoSIlwTC_6TwCA&q=debrachycephalization&oq=de&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAxgBMgQIIxAnMgQIIxAnMgQIIxAnMgU IABCDATICCAAyBQgAEIMBMgIIADIFCAAQgwEyAggAMgIIAFCTA 1jeBGDgGmgBcAB4AIABqAGIAcYCkgEDMC4ymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3d zLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab

[cass]

I doubt Lundman he has ever been to Poland.

[Viridian1]

I doubt Lundman he has ever been to Poland.

Maybe Lundman visited the Apricity board from that time and he made up some names for phenotypes ;)

[cass]

Maybe Lundman visited the Apricity board from that time and he made up some names for phenotypes ;)

Maybe but evidently he even never read early Talko-Hryncewicz notes on Polish Mountainers
https://i.ibb.co/44SSQ4t/las-2.jpg (https://ibb.co/7rpp9rC)