Portuguese and Greek Neonazis: Classify and Place

[JMack]

Who's more ''exotic''?

Mário Machado, Portuguese

https://cdn1.newsplex.pt/media/2018/6/7/642749.jpg?type=artigo

https://ntpinto.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/aberturaok.jpg

https://cdn.cmjornal.pt/images/2018-03/img_770x433$2018_03_25_11_51_29_722427.jpg

Ilias Kasidiaris, Greek

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Ilias_Kasidiaris_b_Mar_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg/1200px-Ilias_Kasidiaris_b_Mar_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Ilias_Kasidiaris_a_Mar_21016.jpg

http://www.enetenglish.gr/resources/2013-06/rtr3da33-thumb-large.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Exotic what for? for being nazis?

[JMack]

Exotic what for? for being nazis?

Well, Ilias Kasidiaris at least doesn't look even remotely white.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Kasidiaris is the only one who is atypical. There's nothing exotic about Mário Machado having in mind Southern European aesthetics\spectrum. In fact I think Mário passes better in Greece than Kasidiaris.

https://www.vip.pt/sites/default/files/styles/slider/public/vip-pt-36472-noticia-goucha-responde-apos-ser-arrasado-por-entrevista-mario-machado-nao-se-deixem.png?itok=DNMiuOSH

https://www.impala.pt/wp-content/uploads/fly-images/297245/entre-a-espada-e-a-parede-tvi-retira-do-ar-reportagem-a-mario-machado-e-esclarece-situacao-750x501-lt.jpg

[JMack]

Kasidiaris is the only one who is atypical. There's nothing exotic about Mário Machado having in mind Southern European aesthetics\spectrum. In fact I think Mário passes better in Greece than Kasidiaris.


True.

Kasidiaris looks like a mulatto tbh.

[Cristiano viejo]

Well, Ilias Kasidiaris at least doesn't look even remotely white.

No, he does not, but it is none of my bussines. He is Greek and defends his country, I respect that.

[Rouxinol]

As if there weren't actual exotic Nazis like Goebbels. As to Mário Machado, who I personally dislike (as any other Nazi or Neo-Nazi), I don't find anything "exotic" about him. Just a regular South European-looking individual.

[Damião de Góis]

I don't know the greek guy, but the portuguese guy is surely retarted. Or at least was.

[Morena]

The Greek is more exotic. But are these guys are actual Nazis or just Nationalists? Nowadays, you can't be a Nationalists without being labeled with that smear.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://video-images.vice.com/articles/58c90a3cc413012ffae283a5/lede/1489574236510-Meli-otra.jpeg

Spanish Melisa Ruiz, leader of Hogar Social would be a good contender as well.

[Dorian]

Just search Kasidiaris high up there ---->
you'll find hundreds of posts probably,no offense but tiring...

[Morena]

Spanish Melisa Ruiz, leader of Hogar Social would be a good contender as well.
She is between the Greek and the Portuguese in terms of exotic looks. I wish she hadn't dyed her hair, though. :lol:

[Damião de Góis]

The leader of Vox wins in my opinion

https://www.theolivepress.es/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Vox-leader.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

The Greek is more exotic. But are these guys are actual Nazis or just Nationalists? Nowadays, you can't be a Nationalists without being labeled with that smear.

http://www1.autistici.org/jena06/pix/mario_machado.jpg


Mário Machado is a National-Socialist. I don't know about Kasidiaris.

[Rouxinol]

The Italian leader of neo-nazi party Fuorza Nuova (Roberto Fiore):

https://alchetron.com/cdn/roberto-fiore-f3f36b48-b46f-4f28-a196-e97d268f9c0-resize-750.jpg

Out of them all Machado is the least exotic, or not exotic at all.

[Cristiano viejo]

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Spanish Melisa Ruiz, leader of Hogar Social would be a good contender as well.

Melissa is not Spanish and the leader of VOX even has light eyes
https://www.santiagoabascal.es/s/img/emotionheader8243414.jpg

[Rgvgjhvv]

Yes we know he looks atypical

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Melissa is not Spanish

The leader of a nationalist movement in Spain is not a ethnic Spaniard? Source, please. As far as I am aware she is a native.

[Blondie]

Japanese nazi:

http://static.digg.com/images/57ea895fbd68d13100af338d3eb6c050_2_www_marquee_sta ndard.jpeg

Mongol nazis:

https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/4667564/images/n-ROSS-KEMP-628x314.jpg

Arab nazis:

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/10/AP00122201170-635x357.jpg

Black nazi:

http://www.blacknazis.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/black_Nazi_Anime.jpg

This word "nazism" means nothing in the 21. century.

[Cristiano viejo]

The leader of a nationalist movement in Spain is not a ethnic Spaniard? Source, please. Has far as I am aware she is a native.

You only have to google Melissa Hogar Social Madrid and you will see she is panchita.
By the way, this is the leader of the Cezch nationalist party https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?271671-Classify-Japanese-politician-founder-of-the-Czech-anti-immigration-party-Freedom-and-Direct-Democrac

[Livin]

Kasidiaris is textbook saharid.

The portugesse guy looks Italian to me Like some mafiozo Sicilians.

[Morena]

Kasidiaris is textbook saharid.

The portugesse guy looks Italian to me Like some mafiozo Sicilians.

Nah. He's too robust looking. I can tell you that he doesn't look Sicilian at least not like an American Sicilian.

[Latinus]

No, he does not, but it is none of my bussines. He is Greek and defends his country, I respect that.

True, I have more respect for Kasidiaris than for a normal looking Greek that doesn't give a shit about his ethnic heritage.

[The Blade]

Mario Machado looks like a regular Southern European - Dinaro-Med.
Ilias Kasidiaris looks MENA - clearly non-white look.

[Latinus]

Kasidiaris looks like a Brazilian pardo, there are tons of "clones" of him here, I wouldn't think he is white if I saw him here, looks exotic and darker than average for a typical white Brazilian.
Mario Machado, of course, pass in Brazil (common face), but I would see him as white.

[JMack]

Mario Machado, of course, pass in Brazil (common face), but I would see him as white.

Really? I included him because a (non-anthrotard) guy I know said he is not white looking yesterday.

I don't think he's exotic looking either but I'm not sure about how non-anthrotards would see him in Brazil.

[Ibericus]

https://video-images.vice.com/articles/58c90a3cc413012ffae283a5/lede/1489574236510-Meli-otra.jpeg

Spanish Melisa Ruiz, leader of Hogar Social would be a good contender as well.
Melissa is adopted of Peruvian origin.

[Latinus]

Really? I included him because a (non-anthrotard) guy I know said he is not white looking yesterday.

I don't think he's exotic looking either but I'm not sure about how non-anthrotards would see him in Brazil.

Well, to me he doesn't exotic, but in some pics I have seen of him some years ago I thought something was off about him, which I don't see in the pics with better quality.
I think he would be seen as white in Brazil, but maybe some people would call him "moreno claro", which is an ambiguos term, by the way.

[Latinus]

By the way Ouroboros, I don't know why a non-anthrotard would think he is not white, maybe the person has an Anglocentrist view on whiteness.
The only think I know for sure is that Brazilians don't perceive typical Iberian/Italian phenotypes as being Euro, just white, because they are common here.

[Zuh]

LOL Is the even a full Euro ethnic Portugues? He can easily pass as mexican as a matter he would not stand out among these mexican americans cholos from California.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/38/9e/7d389e3ac8e013019dee2996a31bc719.jpg

[JMack]

By the way Ouroboros, I don't know why a non-anthrotard would think he is not white, maybe the person has an Anglocentrist view on whiteness.
The only think I know for sure is that Brazilians don't perceive typical Iberian/Italian phenotypes as being Euro, just white, because they are common here.

I have the impression some anthrotards have a more expansive view of what is ''white'' than common people. Not only in Brazil, all around the world.

[Latinus]

LOL Is the even a full Euro ethnic Portugues? He can easily pass as mexican as a matter he would not stand out among these mexican americans cholos from California.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/38/9e/7d389e3ac8e013019dee2996a31bc719.jpg

Because many Mexicans there look more Pred-Euro, so that's why you can kinda off see the similarity/closeness.

[Ruggery]

I do not understand why many neo-Nazis and people of the extreme right Greek seem exotic.
https://www.lapatilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/amanecer-dorado.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSs3w26z2fUBe1cbEppTv7FxJPMjsghO 4_9mA_bhclPxLyLYsnK
https://www.dw.com/image/17403414_303.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compes/m7axbe/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-dorian-hill-hotel-grecia-m7axbe.jpg

White Americans supremacists and Neo Nazis Americans
https://media1.fdncms.com/arktimes/imager/u/original/8560949/screen_shot_2017-08-12_at_7.31.44_am.png
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfCx3-TZvway51SZzvp1MCYDxWbLMuosgdVC332AGysRNZbEiU
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/group_images/SPLC_NeoNazi_02.jpg
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2017/10/29/87ee2753388b46a79f092b9a9df1df59_18.jpg

[Zuh]

Because many Mexicans there look more Pred-Euro, so that's why you can kinda off see the similarity/closeness.

Agree here are more mexican Americans from California.

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/5c1b3a154749417f966d521e33ef2246/l.jpg

The racist Nazi Portuguese would stick out like a sorethumb among Northern Western Euro Americans and will be label easily as a mexican.

[Rgvgjhvv]

I do not understand why many neo-Nazis and people of the extreme right Greek seem exotic.


Exotic? You're comparing Greeks with White Americans. We don't look like White Americans. I don't understand the comparison. Why would we look like White Americans?

[hush2019]

Well, Ilias Kasidiaris at least doesn't look even remotely white.

Well he seems to think that he is. You should hear his speeches

[Rouxinol]

The racist Nazi Portuguese would stick out like a sorethumb among Northern Western Euro Americans and will be label easily as a mexican.

I think he would not give a fuck.
By the way, those Mexicans are far from looking like the stereotypical Mexican mestizo. Even so, Machado looks different from them.

[Latinus]

I do not understand why many neo-Nazis and people of the extreme right Greek seem exotic.
https://www.lapatilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/amanecer-dorado.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSs3w26z2fUBe1cbEppTv7FxJPMjsghO 4_9mA_bhclPxLyLYsnK
https://www.dw.com/image/17403414_303.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/compes/m7axbe/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-dorian-hill-hotel-grecia-m7axbe.jpg

White Americans supremacists and Neo Nazis Americans
https://media1.fdncms.com/arktimes/imager/u/original/8560949/screen_shot_2017-08-12_at_7.31.44_am.png
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfCx3-TZvway51SZzvp1MCYDxWbLMuosgdVC332AGysRNZbEiU
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/group_images/SPLC_NeoNazi_02.jpg
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2017/10/29/87ee2753388b46a79f092b9a9df1df59_18.jpg

I don't see anything exotic about these Americans, they just aren't aesthetically high level and shows lot's of brachycephalic heads.
This Greek marked by me (is that a male of female?) is a common face here, the type I didn't use to associate with whiteness:
https://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpg

[Latinus]

I think he would not give a fuck.
By the way, those Mexicans are far from looking like the stereotypical Mexican mestizo. Even so, Machado looks different from them.

The average Mexican is balanced mestizo, but in the Northern half of the country many look like them, same for their community in the West Coast United States.
In Mexico, they perceive all the Mestizo spectrum as well as many Iberian phenotypes as being just "Mexican".

[hush2019]

I don't understand what the point to this thread is? To point out that South European Far Righters don't look White or that they look less White than Anglos?

[Ruggery]

Exotic? You're comparing Greeks with White Americans. We don't look like White Americans. I don't understand the comparison. Why would we look like White Americans?

White Americans are of various European origins, so almost everyone in Europe, except exotic people, must pass without problems like white Americans, no matter how typical.
The face of the Greek neo-Nazis I do not even see them in the common Greeks.
These are American Greeks and they do not look like the extreme right-wing Greeks.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/files/2012/10/Greek-American-candidates-Congress.jpg

[Zuh]

I think he would not give a fuck.
By the way, those Mexicans are far from looking like the stereotypical Mexican mestizo.

Three no such thing as average standard mexican mestizo it's a anthroforum myth i don't even know why people still have these misconception the only latino american the are homogenous are Peru and Bolivia.

https://i.imgur.com/JMIhkal.png



https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263486-4-500-NEW-WORLD-Kits-from-Gedmatch-euro-ranges

I'm mestizo too btw and I can pass as coastal northern African atypical Israeli and Canary islander.

[Rgvgjhvv]

White Americans are of various European origins, so almost everyone in Europe, except exotic people, must pass without problems like white Americans, no matter how typical.
The face of the Greek neo-Nazis I do not even see them in the common Greeks.
These are American Greeks and they do not look like the right-wing Greeks.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/files/2012/10/Greek-American-candidates-Congress.jpg

A few of them don't look Greek at all. Probably mixed

[Ruggery]

I don't understand what the point to this thread is? To point out that South European Far Righters don't look White or that they look less White than Anglos?

In the USA, if you have an exotic appearance + a Spanish surname, you will be confused a non-white Hispanic.

[Latinus]

White Americans are of various European origins, so almost everyone in Europe, except exotic people, must pass without problems like white Americans, no matter how typical.
The face of the Greek neo-Nazis I do not even see them in the common Greeks.
These are American Greeks and they do not look like the extreme right-wing Greeks.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/files/2012/10/Greek-American-candidates-Congress.jpg

I thought you were saying the American White Nationalists were also exotic, my bad.
True, to pass as white American you don't need to look like a textbook Brit/German, these people you posted, the Greek-Americans, while not looking textbook white American, fit easily in their spectrum without standing out.

[Rgvgjhvv]

White Americans are of various European origins, so almost everyone in Europe, except exotic people, must pass without problems like white Americans, no matter how typical.
The face of the Greek neo-Nazis I do not even see them in the common Greeks.
These are American Greeks and they do not look like the extreme right-wing Greeks.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/files/2012/10/Greek-American-candidates-Congress.jpg

Nerdy looking guy bottom row is not Greek. His name is Bob Menendez and his parents are Cuban. Bottom row both women are not Greek. One on the left is Irish. One on the far bottom right is married to a Greek, her last name is Wyman she's not Greek at all - as expected. Guy on the bottom left is half-British from his mother's side.

Again, like I said. Why would Greeks look like White Americans? "White Americans" are predominately of German origin, with many also British origin. It's pretty straight-forward

[hush2019]

In the USA, if you have an exotic appearance + a Spanish surname, you will be confused a non-white Hispanic.

That's the beauty of idiocy and phenotypical anthropology instead of physical genetic evidence

[Token]

Mario Machado looks like a pretty standard Iberian, Greek Neonazis looks more exotic.

[Dorian]

There's nothing weird with most of the above Greeks,yes Kasidiaris/Michaloliakos(leader)are exotic but that's it.We're diverse&have everything here in general population and groups.
If you're interested in something "lighter"..
Michaloliakos wife
http://www.xryshaygh.com/assets/images/news/arxigos-el.zaroulia1.jpg
His bouncer
https://i.postimg.cc/ZR66CnwC/afs.jpg
Ex 2nd leader
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xnLEWti4uC4/VGPUdfeNx1I/AAAAAAAAAdA/HP2QECxIx0M/s1600/211030_181810311868343_4879171_n.jpg
Deputy at 3:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtSlwBbluU

[Ruggery]

A few of them don't look Greek at all. Probably mixed

They are probably a bit mixed but their main component is Greek.
Michael Vranos both parents of Greek origin.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/06/09/104520964-Mike_Vranos.530x298.jpg?v=1497546238

[hush2019]

His bouncer is hot.

[Ruggery]

That's the beauty of idiocy and phenotypical anthropology instead of physical genetic evidence

Blame the Americans and Nordicists.

[Rouxinol]

George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/George_Lincoln_Rockwell.jpg

Some people have the wrong idea that to be rightfully Nazi one has to look like a Nazi poster boy...

[Rgvgjhvv]

They are probably a bit mixed but their main component is Greek.
Michael Vranos both parents of Greek origin.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/06/09/104520964-Mike_Vranos.530x298.jpg?v=1497546238

Yeah he passes well for Greek. I already outlined the ones who aren't Greek at all in my post after.

[Ruggery]

I don't see anything exotic about these Americans, they just aren't aesthetically high level and shows lot's of brachycephalic heads.
This Greek marked by me (is that a male of female?) is a common face here, the type I didn't use to associate with whiteness:
https://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpg

I did not say anything exotic about white Americans.

[Ruggery]

George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/George_Lincoln_Rockwell.jpg

Some people have the wrong idea that to be rightfully Nazi one has to look like a Nazi poster boy...

His face is normal, I never said that the average American neo-Nazi was similar to David Duke or another subject, but I have not seen many American white supremacists or neo-Nazis with very exotic aspects.

[Latinus]

I did not say anything exotic about white Americans.

I explain my confusion in the earlier post.

[Kamal900]

Machado looks Southern European in general. The Greek guy looks kinda exotic to me.

[Dorian]

White Americans are of various European origins, so almost everyone in Europe, except exotic people, must pass without problems like white Americans, no matter how typical.
The face of the Greek neo-Nazis I do not even see them in the common Greeks.
These are American Greeks and they do not look like the extreme right-wing Greeks.


The answer is simple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

[hush2019]

Blame the Americans and Nordicists.

I know but the others who emulate them are just as bad.

[Ruggery]

Nerdy looking guy bottom row is not Greek. His name is Bob Menendez and his parents are Cuban. Bottom row both women are not Greek. One on the left is Irish. One on the far bottom right is married to a Greek, her last name is Wyman she's not Greek at all - as expected. Guy on the bottom left is half-British from his mother's side.

Again, like I said. Why would Greeks look like White Americans? "White Americans" are predominately of German origin, with many also British origin. It's pretty straight-forward

You are right in what you say, but it is not necessary to have an aspect of SubNordid, Borreby, Brunn, North Atlantic or Faelid to pass as a white American, it is true that Greeks on average do not look like the average white American. Because Americans are mainly of British, Irish, German, Swedish, Italian, etc. origin, but a Greek of pontine or alpine aspect would pass without any problem as white Americans. The only ones that stand out are those of very exotic appearance like Kasiriadis.

[Papastratosels26]

Kasidiaris

[Ruggery]

The answer is simple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Interesting.

[Rgvgjhvv]

You are right in what you say, but it is not necessary to have an aspect of SubNordid, Borreby, Brunn, North Atlantic or Faelid to pass as a white American, it is true that Greeks on average do not look like the average white. Because Americans are mainly of British, Irish, German, Swedish, Italian, etc. origin, but a Greek of pontine or alpine aspect would pass without any problem as white Americans. The only ones that stand out are those of very exotic appearance like Kasiriadis.

Yeah I don't think we'd particularly stand out immediately or anything, but it's happened to me plenty of times in my life. Most people in North America know a Southern European when they see one, versus your everyday White. That's all I mean

[Tigranes]

This shows how TA being far from reality.
If these people were from Turkey/Caucasus or wherever outside of Europe,TA "experts" would talk crap about how they look 'typical'.

[Creoda]

George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/George_Lincoln_Rockwell.jpg

Some people have the wrong idea that to be rightfully Nazi one has to look like a Nazi poster boy...
The literal Nazi posterboy for an ideal German soldier was a half-Jew called Werner Goldberg.

[Latinus]

This shows how TA being far from reality.
If these people were from Turkey/Caucasus or wherever outside of Europe,TA "experts" would talk crap about how they look 'typical'.

I doubt the Greek would be seen as white if he was Levantine/North African.

[hush2019]

This shows how TA being far from reality.
If these people were from Turkey/Caucasus or wherever outside of Europe,TA "experts" would talk crap about how they look 'typical'.

People are indifferent about Caucasus populations because the people there are mixed. The one's who don't tolerate any of you though are the Russians. You might want to fight it out with them, bud.

[hush2019]

I doubt the Greek would be seen as white if he was Levantine/North African.

There are no Greeks in the Levant or North Africa those are renegedes.

[Dorian]

but a Greek of pontine or alpine aspect would pass without any problem as white Americans.

And not only these two,If you remove the obvious difference of pigmentation in the majority of cases ,normal people won't be able to distinguish the receding hairlined wasp dolichocephal to the brachycephal Greek/Balkanic dinaric one for example.

[Ruggery]

Yeah I don't think we'd particularly stand out immediately or anything, but it's happened to me plenty of times in my life. Most people in North America know a Southern European when they see one, versus your everyday White. That's all I mean

They know him on the basis of ignorance and stereotypes, but when they visited places suddenly changed their minds, that is why the phrase is famous, ignorance is cured when traveling (of course, there are also types of ignorance that even with the travel can not be cured but that's another subject xD)

[Ruggery]

I doubt the Greek would be seen as white if he was Levantine/North African.

Now imagine if Turkey was in Europe.

[Tigranes]

People are indifferent about Caucasus populations because the people there are mixed. The one's who don't tolerate any of you though are the Russians. You might want to fight it out with them, bud.

Ikr...
I know a Russian guy doesn't even consider Greeks/Italians/S.Europeans as same race("White Race") with him.
He said Mediterranean people are something between White and Non-White.(Some "White",others not.)
Can you believe this kind of retardz exists?
Well,apparently it exists in Russia.

[nafz]

They know him on the basis of ignorance and stereotypes, but when they visited places suddenly changed their minds, that is why the phrase is famous, ignorance is cured when traveling (of course, there are also types of ignorance that even with the travel can not be cured but that's another subject xD)

what do you mean by that? That when traveling they "discover" that not all southern Europeans are dark haired and dark eyed?

Even so that does not change the fact that this is a small percentage of the population.

So their view/opinion of the "woggy" southern Europeans even if sometimes exaggerated is more or less correct.

[Ruggery]

And not only these two,If you remove the obvious difference of pigmentation in the majority of cases ,normal people won't be able to distinguish the receding hairlined wasp dolichocephal to the brachycephal Greek/Balkanic dinaric one for example.

Depending on the facial features but if they are similar clear yes.

For example if you eliminate the pigmentation the differences between alpinid and western baltid would be very few.

[Ruggery]

Ikr...
I know a Russian guy doesn't even consider Greeks/Italians/S.Europeans as same race("White Race") with him.
He said Mediterranean people are something between White and Non-White.(Some "White",others not.)
Can you believe this kind of retardz exists?
Well,apparently it exists in Russia.

It sounds similar to Varg Vikernes xD

[Dorian]

Depending on the facial features but if they are similar clear yes.

For example if you eliminate the pigmentation the differences between alpinid and western baltid would be very few.

Bad phrasing,I meant the wasp ones who have the "receding look" but without blonde hair/blue eyes.Not to just imagine them that way but yeah..

[Ruggery]

what do you mean by that? That when traveling they "discover" that not all southern Europeans are dark haired and dark eyed?

Even so that does not change the fact that this is a small percentage of the population.

So their view/opinion of the "woggy" southern Europeans even if sometimes exaggerated is more or less correct.

Unfortunately, there are people like that. Read some testimonials from American tourists who visited places like Spain for example.

[Ruggery]

Bad phrasing,I meant the wasp ones who have the "receding look" but without blonde hair/blue eyes.Not to just imagine them that way but yeah..

Example?

[arkas]

Ilias Kasidiaris can pass in Egypt in my eyes, so I think he wins for being more 'exotic'.

[hush2019]

Ikr...
I know a Russian guy doesn't even consider Greeks/Italians/S.Europeans as same race("White Race") with him.
He said Mediterranean people are something between White and Non-White.(Some "White",others not.)
Can you believe this kind of retardz exists?
Well,apparently it exists in Russia.
/
That's a typical knee jerk Armenian reaction isn't it? Stats say that Armenians and Azerbaijanis are targeted by Russian skinheads not Greeks Italians or Spanish.

[Dorian]

Example?
There's a bunch here
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/05/Trump-man-standing.jpg&w=1484

[hush2019]

Ilias Kasidiaris can pass in Egypt in my eyes, so I think he wins for being more 'exotic'.

No he's something else I don't think he's North African Berberid either. She doesn't even seem to be that Cro Magnon.

[nafz]

Unfortunately, there are people like that. Read some testimonials from American tourists who visited places like Spain for example.

Yeah I know what you mean. American tourists go to Spain and see blonde and light eyed persons and to their disbelief discover that these persons are really natives and not tourists. It is not only Americans though. Even some northern Europeans that have never traveled outside their homeland have this perception about southern Euros.

[hush2019]

He's just something I don't know what. Would be interested to see his genetic results.

[Ruggery]

Even some northern Europeans that have never traveled outside their homeland have this perception about southern Euros.

I have never heard that of the northern Europeans only of Americans,Canadians and some Australians.

[Ruggery]

There's a bunch here
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/05/Trump-man-standing.jpg&w=1484

Those people are common nothing unusual in them.

[Tigranes]

/
That's a typical knee jerk Armenian reaction isn't it? Stats say that Armenians and Azerbaijanis are targeted by Russian skinheads not Greeks Italians or Spanish.

What did you mean exactly?
I never claimed Greeks/Italians/Spanish are targeted by Russian skinheads.
I just shared my experience.

[Dorian]

Those people are common nothing unusual in them.

Well that's even better then(bad for nordicist/wikingz americans though) ,now do the reverse halo and imagine them in a gold dawn protest with the cigarette hanging off the mouth -balkan style ,would you see something off?
What I'm trying to say is in these forums there's much hyperbole.

[nafz]

I have never heard that of the northern Europeans only of Americans,Canadians and some Australians.

A friend of mine was studying in Scotland years ago. He is a lighter dude so some people perceived him as native -until he started to speak that is . When he said he was Greek the people from the big cities did not seem surprised.

One day and after having wondered in the highlands he stopped in a remote village. The local pub owner could not believe my friend was Greek as his perceptions of Greeks was that of swarthy mustachioed fisher men. He thought my friend was some Russian or other Slavic person that was pretending to be Greek.
So yeah these people exist even in Europe.

[Dorian]

A friend of mine was studying in Scotland years ago. He is a lighter dude so some people perceived him as native -until he started to speak that is . When he said he was Greek the people from the big cities did not seem surprised.

One day and after having wondered in the highlands he stopped in a remote village. The local pub owner could not believe my friend was Greek as his perceptions of Greeks was that of swarthy mustachioed fisher men. He thought my friend was some Russian or other Slavic person that was pretending to be Greek.
So yeah these people exist even in Europe.

Same as my cousin who's in Germany, again because normal people don't see the details "we do" here.

[Ruggery]

Well that's even better then(bad for nordicist/wikingz americans though) ,now do the reverse halo and imagine them in a gold dawn protest with the cigarette hanging off the mouth -balkan style ,would you see something off?
What I'm trying to say is in these forums there's much hyperbole.

A group of white Americans is easily distinguished from a group of Scandinavians.
A Greek common group is also different but they are not very dark.

[Chaos One]

Really? I included him because a (non-anthrotard) guy I know said he is not white looking yesterday.

I don't think he's exotic looking either but I'm not sure about how non-anthrotards would see him in Brazil.

Many Anthrotards see me as Brown or Asian but in Brazil people see me as white. He would be white easier in Brazil.

[Smeagol]

"White Americans" are predominately of German origin, with many also British origin. It's pretty straight-forward

The opposite: predominantly British origin with many also of German origin.

[Cristiano viejo]

Mario Machado looks like a pretty standard Iberian, Greek Neonazis looks more exotic.
No, pretty standard Iberian no. He is darker than average.


Ikr...
I know a Russian guy doesn't even consider Greeks/Italians/S.Europeans as same race("White Race") with him.
He said Mediterranean people are something between White and Non-White.(Some "White",others not.)
Can you believe this kind of retardz exists?
Well,apparently it exists in Russia.

I dont know about other South European countries but in Spain we think the same about Russians: ones look white, many are not.

[Tigranes]

No, pretty standard Iberian no. He is darker than average.



I dont know about other South European countries but in Spain we think the same about Russians: ones look white, many are not.You mean "Caucasoid"?
They're obviously light-skinned.

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[Cristiano viejo]

You mean "Caucasoid"?
They're obviously light-skinned.

Does not matter if they are the most light skinned in the world if then they have Chinese features.

[KingOf]

genetics work in weird ways... here is Kasidiaris brother and he doesn't look exotic for Greece
you can call Ilias non-Greek and anything you want but that would imply the same to his brother... i bet if any exotic South European had like 10 brothers most of them wouldn't be out of the norm for South Europe
the complex and the hate is real

https://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/astin2.jpg

[Dorian]

genetics work in weird ways... here is Kasidiaris brother and he doesn't look exotic for Greece
you can call Ilias non-Greek and anything you want but that would imply the same to his brother... i bet if any exotic South European had like 10 brothers most of them wouldn't be out of the norm for South Europe
the complex and the hate is real


Reminded me of 2 other Greek siblings(thought to upload them in the past but it could get sh***posts)who go for vacations to my village.

Brother ,he also has an insane beast body build similar to Nikos Karelis while taller which overall gives an "ssa" vibe
https://i.postimg.cc/x8xP0jGk/1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2LWWGDKm)


While sister looks like this
https://i.postimg.cc/59ng5pcx/2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

And parents
https://i.postimg.cc/bJRTB9s9/3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/phpz98Qm)

[kleenex]

I wouldn't be surprised if this Kasidiris guy is admixed with something exotic (SSA) possibly. Doesn't look remotely Greek (Island or otherwise).

[KingOf]

Reminded me of 2 other Greek siblings(thought to upload them in the past but it could get sh***posts)who go for vacations to my village.

Brother ,he also has an insane beast body build similar to Nikos Karelis while taller which overall gives an "ssa" vibe
https://i.postimg.cc/x8xP0jGk/1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2LWWGDKm)


While sister looks like this
https://i.postimg.cc/59ng5pcx/2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

And parents
https://i.postimg.cc/bJRTB9s9/3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/phpz98Qm)

yeah it just can happen... the hate part i talk about is mostly the self-hate of us Southern Euros...
i admit that if Kasidiaris or the man you posted were foreigners i would most likely say they can't pass in Greece but they are Greeks soooo...
South Europe is the borders of Europe and that's where the complex stems from
it makes sense for Greece for example to have some types that are more typical in Central/East Europe than Greece and some that are more typical in Anatolia than Greece...
no country is made only from typical looking individuals... yes they are atypicals but still Greeks

[kleenex]

I"m going to be brutally honest. When I was growing up in "redneck" Florida (back in the 60's and 70's) my family; my mom, dad, aunt, uncle we all fit in quite nicely. My dad was a grove owner and businessman (as was my uncle). No one even questioned our ethnicity and truth be told there were "darker" Amerinidian/Anglo mixes that I went to school with. The only Americans of Greek desccent that I knew that stood out were from Karpathos. They were also pretty clanish and tended to "speak" in Greek in public (which my parents thought was disrespectful). I never in my life felt insecure about my "Greek" roots" although I didn't go around divulging my background to everyone (neither did my peers) back then. I'm not sure what's going on now but everything is under a friggin microscope.

[DarknessWin]

Well he seems to think that he is. You should hear his speeches

Kassidiaris attack Germans everywhere but yes he is Nazi.
You people are idiots , he is just greek nationalist

Wake up and stop call everyone nazi

[DarknessWin]

It sounds similar to Varg Vikernes xD

Meditteraneans are at least Caucasian race so White race while Russians are some brachy mongoloid mixes.
So tell your friend this next time that we consider them mongols just like their president

[KingOf]

I"m going to be brutally honest. When I was growing up in "redneck" Florida (back in the 60's and 70's) my family; my mom, dad, aunt, uncle we all fit in quite nicely. My dad was a grove owner and businessman (as was my uncle). No one even questioned our ethnicity and truth be told there were "darker" Amerinidian/Anglo mixes that I went to school with. The only Americans of Greek desccent that I knew that stood out were from Karpathos. They were also pretty clanish and tended to "speak" in Greek in public (which my parents thought was disrespectful). I never in my life felt insecure about my "Greek" roots" although I didn't go around divulging my background to everyone (neither did my peers) back then. I'm not sure what's going on now but everything is under a friggin microscope.

very very weird.
things were different back then but still... we Greeks are proud people and being ashamed to speak your own language is a disgrace to be honest

[DarknessWin]

Does not matter if they are the most light skinned in the world if then they have Chinese features.

Turks look more caucasoid (white race) than Russians.
Really , their white skin and light eyes mean nothing.

They look like balloon head asians

[Ruggery]

Meditteraneans are at least Caucasian race so White race while Russians are some brachy mongoloid mixes.
So tell your friend this next time that we consider them mongols just like their president

Varg Vikernes is Norwegian he live in France and married a Nordic looking French woman.
http://www.eyescreamproductions.com/allaccess/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/vargvikernescourt2014_638.jpg

[Hellenas]

Ilias Kasidiaris, Greek

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Ilias_Kasidiaris_b_Mar_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg/1200px-Ilias_Kasidiaris_b_Mar_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Ilias_Kasidiaris_a_Mar_21016.jpg

http://www.enetenglish.gr/resources/2013-06/rtr3da33-thumb-large.jpg

He is white skinned.

https://j.gifs.com/oQm8Jj.gif



I do not understand why many neo-Nazis and people of the extreme right Greek seem exotic.
https://www.lapatilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/amanecer-dorado.jpg[/img]

Nickos Michaloliakos, Giannis Lagos and Sotiris Develakos are white skinned.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I6okGDrO58c/XDOJqz-KJbI/AAAAAAAKWUs/p9s4u3W28PES6qmOrhYR3IE2JcXh4GAkwCK4BGAYYCw/s1600/ngm2019.JPG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JhI8rbgnUKM/WUUhrC6unGI/AAAAAAAAFkk/bSH9Rt9KcQ4k1wI5X8BZNSTTnJBO-vHAgCLcBGAs/s640/mihaloliakos.jpg
http://xanthinews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mixaloliakos93473.jpg
https://www.triklopodia.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2018-02-23_220913.png

http://luben.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/sel-630_1.jpg





https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSs3w26z2fUBe1cbEppTv7FxJPMjsghO 4_9mA_bhclPxLyLYsnK



https://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/BbhNNtHM/atenas-grecia-neo-nazi-partido-golden-dawn-rally-electoral-doria.jpg

The woman and the last man marked in red are just very atypical Greeks, rest just tanned.


https://www.dw.com/image/17403414_303.jpg

Tanned.

Nice cherry picking though.


Golden Dawn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbP1yDiWsAIY0pK.jpg
https://www.newsbeast.gr/files/1/2012/09/17/meli3.jpg

Tanned

https://athens.indymedia.org/media/old/560078_10201773227002853_1775699371_n.jpg


Nothing better in life than having the ability to tan

https://ic.c4assets.com/brands/crocodile-dundee/3bed9aa5-3753-4c39-809e-76e9e0b35a9d.jpg?interpolation=progressive-bicubic&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=90{&resize}

[Hellenas]

White Americans supremacists and Neo Nazis Americans

https://media1.fdncms.com/arktimes/imager/u/original/8560949/screen_shot_2017-08-12_at_7.31.44_am.png
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfCx3-TZvway51SZzvp1MCYDxWbLMuosgdVC332AGysRNZbEiU
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/group_images/SPLC_NeoNazi_02.jpg
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2017/10/29/87ee2753388b46a79f092b9a9df1df59_18.jpg

And those?

https://i.imgur.com/dpWRkzV.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xERd-T2AcEE/hqdefault.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/duke-schneider-who-is-a-member-of-the-national-socialist-movement-in-picture-id98945842

http://www.nate-thayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/koc5u1t.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/21/15/2AA8566D00000578-0-A_member_of_a_white_supremacist_group_yells_at_opp osing_proteste-a-34_1437487754200.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/www.momentsforequality.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/RichardPreston.png?fit=790%2C425&ssl=1

https://dailyarchives.org/images/jeffkansascity.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/aryan-nations-demonstrators-march-through-the-streets-of-coeur-dalene-picture-id534274748?s=612x612

https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2004/09-12/img/20040912-004639-pic-245613260.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/tim-bishop-member-of-the-national-socialists-movement-warms-up-by-the-picture-id2101717

[Rgvgjhvv]

very very weird.
things were different back then but still... we Greeks are proud people and being ashamed to speak your own language is a disgrace to be honest

I agree 100%. Absolutely ridiculous

[Zroota]

Mário Machado looks more Greek to me than Portuguese. As classifications, go he is Dinaro-Med and Berid I guess.

[arkas]

very very weird.
things were different back then but still... we Greeks are proud people and being ashamed to speak your own language is a disgrace to be honest

I have never met a Greek Australian who wasn't overtly proud to be Greek, Greeks seem to be one of the most proud people but in the past that was quite common for non-English speaking migrants in Australia to be ashamed of speaking their language. My grandparents have stories of being harassed for speaking Greek in public in Australia, so during the 20s till maybe the late 70s, speaking anything but English was frowned upon in Australia.

[KingOf]

I have never met a Greek Australian who wasn't overtly proud to be Greek, Greeks seem to be one of the most proud people but in the past that was quite common for non-English speaking migrants in Australia to be ashamed of soeaking their language. My grandparents have stories of being harassed for speaking Greek in public in Australia, so during the 20s till maybe the late 70s, speaking anything but English was frowned upon in Australia.

i would probably speak secretly or at home if i expierienced the harrassment of these years as well...
he said though that his Greek parents considered speaking Greek in America as something disrespectful... if that isn't denouncing your roots i don't know what is

[arkas]

i would probably speak secretly or at home if i expierienced the harrassment of these years as well...
he said though that his Greek parents considered speaking Greek in America as disrespectful... if that isn't denouncing your roots i don't know what is

Of course they spoke Greek at home and what's so odd is that my dad and many 2nd generation Greeks speak Greek as a first language despite being born and raised in Australia. Personally I think people should speak primarily English here and in America, native languages are also okay, but nobody should be harassed if they are bilingual.

[Autrigón]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921
What the fuck are they doing with their fingers? What kind of childish game is that?

[Autrigón]

LOL Is the even a full Euro ethnic Portugues? He can easily pass as mexican as a matter he would not stand out among these mexican americans cholos from California.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/38/9e/7d389e3ac8e013019dee2996a31bc719.jpgWhat the fuck are they doing with their fingers? What kind of childish game is that?

[Viçwamitra]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921
What the fuck are they doing with their fingers? What kind of childish game is that?They look like American Latinos.

[Mingle]

very very weird.
things were different back then but still... we Greeks are proud people and being ashamed to speak your own language is a disgrace to be honest

I wouldn't really say that it's shame, just trying not to appear rude. And I imagine that they would have spoken Greek publicly when people weren't too close to them. Speaking a foreign language in a group of English-speaking people makes you appear rude as it makes you stick out somewhat and people would try to avoid situations like that, especially if they want to not be perceived as foreigners in their own country.

[dosas]

yeah it just can happen... the hate part i talk about is mostly the self-hate of us Southern Euros...
i admit that if Kasidiaris or the man you posted were foreigners i would most likely say they can't pass as Greece but they are Greeks soooo...
South Europe is the borders of Europe and that's where the complex stems from
it makes sense for Greece for example to have some types that are more typical in Central/East Europe than Greece and some that are more typical in Anatolia than Greece...
no country is made only from typical looking individuals... yes they are atypicals but still Greeks

I disagree, no one I know has a 'skin type/phenotype' complex and self-hate. What you speak of is probably more common in traditionally apartheid-like racist societies like Australia (in the past, not currently) and on anthrotard forum wars. People here are proud of their Anatolian/Near East roots and are not trying to hide it, by any means.

[Rouxinol]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mtaug/images/6/6a/Rifa.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130701154921
What the fuck are they doing with their fingers? What kind of childish game is that?

Must be their gang's hand sign. Each gang as a different one.

[KingOf]

I disagree, no one I know has a 'skin type/phenotype' complex and self-hate. What you speak of is probably more common in traditionally apartheid-like racist societies like Australia (in the past, not currently) and on anthrotard forum wars. People here are proud of their Anatolian/Near East roots and are not trying to hide it, by any means.

you misunderstood me... maybe self-hate was the wrong word
i meant South Euros calling some of their countrymen mongrels because they are atypical...
i didn't mean hating your own looks and origins
i agree though in real life it doesn't happen

[Morena]

What the fuck are they doing with their fingers? What kind of childish game is that?

stupid gangbangers. there was a case where some stupid cholos and their white trash hoe killed a def man because they thought he was flashing gang signs


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[RanselBaar]

Lol, what the hell is this thread.

[leonj]

1. Mediterranean Europe. Looks like me but thanks God I do not act like him and my personality is far from hims.
2. North Africa

[Kivan]

1. Atlanto-Med + Berberid. Pass in Iberia and as an atypical North-African.
2. Saharid. Pass in North-Africa and as Triracial latin-american.

[Mimi]

Do they too believe in the Muslim and Turkic superiority?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?282436-A-H-on-Turks-vs-Christian-Armenians-amp-Georgians

[Cristiano viejo]

1. Atlanto-Med + Berberid. Pass in Portugal and as an atypical North-African.

Fixed.

[kleenex]

i would probably speak secretly or at home if i expierienced the harrassment of these years as well...
he said though that his Greek parents considered speaking Greek in America as something disrespectful... if that isn't denouncing your roots i don't know what is

A lot of had to do with the bs they endured in the 20's during the resurgence of the KKK. My grandfather had a cross burned on his lawn in the 1920's and actually went next door to a clansman neighbor and asked why they did it. He didn't have an answer. If Greeks spoke English and assimilated they were treated respectfully. Same is true for Poles (who weren't even considered white in the US during the 1920s), Italians, Slavs, Albanians, other Euros.

[arkas]

A lot of had to do with the bs they endured in the 20's during the resurgence of the KKK. My grandfather had a cross burned on his lawn in the 1920's and actually went next door to a clansman neighbor and asked why they did it. He didn't have an answer. If Greeks spoke English and assimilated they were treated respectfully. Same is true for Poles (who weren't even considered white in the US during the 1920s), Italians, Slavs, Albanians, other Euros.

Did your family convert to a different Christian denomination?

[Latinus]

you misunderstood me... maybe self-hate was the wrong word
i meant South Euros calling some of their countrymen mongrels because they are atypical...
i didn't mean hating your own looks and origins
i agree though in real life it doesn't happen

Very true, the funny thing is that they usually don't accuse one of their nationals of being a foreigner when (s)he is lighter than average.

[hush2019]

What did you mean exactly?
I never claimed Greeks/Italians/Spanish are targeted by Russian skinheads.
I just shared my experience.

That's exactly what you said and no they are not targeted by Russian skinheads as much as Armenians Azerbaijanis and Georgians are. To say that people of the Caucasus are somehow more European than South Europeans is nuts. Apart from the fact that Russians state very clearly they target Armenians and Azeris and don't care for them in general. Seriously, why would you claim to be an Armenian with Greek heritage but then claim that South Europeans aren't fully White?

Yeah, in your dreams Kavkaz.

[kleenex]

Did your family convert to a different Christian denomination?

My mom's family became Episcopalian. My father's didn't because the region they settled (the American West) was much less ethnocentric.