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Borealis
03-27-2019, 05:57 AM
Curious, why are many of them classified as Indo-Nordic?

Thambi
03-27-2019, 06:03 AM
I think maybe 10% or so have visible south asian features. Rest of them have fully caucasoid or caucasoid admixed mongoloid features.

Borealis
03-27-2019, 06:04 AM
I think maybe 10% or so have visible south asian features. Rest of them have fully caucasoid or caucasoid admixed mongoloid features.

How would this compare to Persians? To Baloch? To Kashmiris? And to Punjabis?

Thambi
03-27-2019, 06:15 AM
How would this compare to Persians? To Baloch? To Kashmiris? And to Punjabis?

Balochis are slightly more south asian passing and persians are slightly less compared to pashtuns. Kashmiris and punjabis obviously a lot more south asian looking in general. not sure about the percentages but kashmiris are noticeably less south asian looking than punjabis.

lameduck
03-27-2019, 06:17 AM
How would this compare to Persians? To Baloch? To Kashmiris? And to Punjabis?

Persians are similar to Pashtuns , they are lighter than Balochs , Punjabis , Kashmiris.
I would say 10-15% of Pashtuns can pass among South Asians while significantly more NW South Asians especially women can show similarities to Pashtuns.

lameduck
03-27-2019, 06:45 AM
Some crowds of Pakistani Pashtuns
https://i0.wp.com/khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg?fit=960%2C540&ssl=1
http://bajaurtimes.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Protest-3-Murdr-Labour-n-Larkana.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E38VLBy.png

Some crowds of Kalash in Pakistan

https://s26626.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DSC_4371-1024x684.jpg.webp
https://thekalashatimes.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/14-august-2016-32.jpg
https://www.parhlo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/3-10-528x297.jpg

NPKTO
03-27-2019, 07:05 AM
Some crowds of Pakistani Pashtuns
https://i0.wp.com/khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg?fit=960%2C540&ssl=1
http://bajaurtimes.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Protest-3-Murdr-Labour-n-Larkana.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/E38VLBy.png

Some crowds of Kalash in Pakistan

https://s26626.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DSC_4371-1024x684.jpg.webp
https://thekalashatimes.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/14-august-2016-32.jpg
https://www.parhlo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/3-10-528x297.jpg
Do Kho/Chitralis look similar to Kalash people on average? If I recall correctly, Kho/Chitralis had much higher Steppe than Kalash, but Kalash had higher Iran_N.

Ryuk
03-27-2019, 07:16 AM
All Indo-Iranian folks bear South Asian input.Even Andronovo remains in Central Asian had this.

What you mean is that having distinct Indid phenotype, about 10-15% of Pashtuns and few kalash have this. But most distinct phenotype of both folks is Iranid

Borealis
03-27-2019, 07:17 AM
All Indo-Iranian folks bear South Asian input.Even Andronovo remains in Central Asian had this.

What you mean is that having distinct Indid phenotype, about 10-15% of Pashtuns and few kalash have this. But most distinct phenotype of both folks is Iranid

No.

lameduck
03-27-2019, 07:22 AM
Do Kho/Chitralis look similar to Kalash people on average? If I recall correctly, Kho/Chitralis had much higher Steppe than Kalash, but Kalash had higher Iran_N.

I think they look similar , Kho are a much bigger population and thus more diverse also many Kalash have been assimilated among khos after converting to Islam. Kalash are unique because they have preserved customs but phenotype wise they fit in chitral district.

Crowds of regular chitralis

https://i1.wp.com/pamirtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/205.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/pamirtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&ssl=1
https://i1.wp.com/pamirtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Chitral-Musharraf-Rally-3.jpg?fit=804%2C498

Ryuk
03-27-2019, 08:02 AM
No.

The Andronovo people were not directly mixed with the South Asians, but the people of the BMAC(locate modern Turkmenistan) were carrying some proportion of South Asian input, and the Andronovan were mixed with the BMAC before they migrated to India, while they were in Central Asia.Early Andronovan not have this but later ones have a bit South Asian input. This is what I mean.

Check this https://adnaera.com/2018/06/23/the-genomic-formation-of-south-and-central-asia-some-thoughts-part-1/