State Main Phenotypes: Pomeranian Town, Santa Maria de Jetibá, Espírito Santo, Brazil

[JMack]

The people I'm posting from these towns in Brazilian countryside are likely the only true whites (as a group) you would find anywhere in Latin America.

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[Latinus]

The cute brachycephalic elements predominates in these Germanic-Brazilian communities you post, so I'll go Alpines and Subnordid.
The exotic types not being common among them, at least from these pics.

[JMack]

The exotic types not being common among them, at least from these pics.

Of course, these people are fully European; I'm pretty sure if these communities were tested they would be 99-100% Euro on average. Colonos from the countryside are not like ''white Brazilians'' from the big cities. Colonos absorbed very few non-European blood, if any at all.

But it depends on the location and the community. These Pomeranians and the Tyroleans I posted from Santa Catarina are likely 100% European, but I'll post tomorrow Tyroleans from São Paulo and some of them do look mixed with non-Tyroleans and even with non-whites (a substantial portion of the kids look like pardos there).

[Latinus]

Of course, these people are fully European; I'm pretty sure if these communities were tested they would be 99-100% Euro on average. Colonos from the countryside are not like ''white Brazilians'' from the big cities. Colonos absorbed very few non-European blood, if any at all.

But it depends on the location and the community. These Pomeranians and the Tyroleans I posted from Santa Catarina are likely 100% European, but I'll post tomorrow Tyroleans from São Paulo and some of them do look mixed with non-Tyroleans and even with non-whites (a substantial portion of the kids look like pardos there).

Yeah, but I'm talking about Matt Hummel types, darker than average ethnic Germans, they don't seem to be common among Germanic communities in Latin America.

[JMack]

Yeah, but I'm talking about Matt Hummel types, darker than average ethnic Germans, they don't seem to be common among Germanic communities in Latin America.

I know some guys of fully Germanic origin who are more or less ''exotic'', but Mats Hummels isn't common in Germany as well. I've been there and very few of them are the Mats Hummels/Gerd Müller types. Also, German-Brazilians are mostly Northern Germans, with the exception of Tyroleans/South Tyroleans.

I don't know about other ''Germanic communities'' in Latin America because apart from Brazil there are hardly any substantial Germanic communities in Latin America. Actually most people with German surnames in Argentina are mixed with other Europeans and most people with German surnames in Chile are likely mestizos/harnizos/castizos. Full Germans in good numbers only exist in Brazil, mostly in the South and Espírito Santo.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I would really enjoy if this communities were tested, rural white brazilians are way more euro than white latinos and even other white brazilians from urban centers. But everytime only white brazilians from urban areas are tested because of very obvious reasons.

This people look mostly Subnordid, Nordid, Alpine, Alpine Med with some Dinarids and Dinaro Meds also.

[JMack]

I would really enjoy if this communities were tested, rural white brazilians are way more euro than white latinos and even other white brazilians from urban centers. But everytime only white brazilians from urban areas are tested because of very obvious reasons.

This people look mostly Subnordid, Nordid, Alpine, Alpine Med with some Dinarids and Dinaro Meds also.

I don't think that there is some hidden agenda behind Brazilian DNA studies, it's just that most Brazilians live in big urban centers, so it's much more representative testing people from big cities than testing rural guys.

But yeah, whites from the countryside in some parts of Brazil are definitely pure or near pure, they don't qualify as ''white latinos'' imo. but as just ''white'' since these people are basically 100% European.

White Latinos are in between 80-100 % European, these guys are likely 99-100% European on average. The vast majority of Brazilians who score 100% European have roots from these communities.

[JMack]

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[Tenma de Pegasus]

I don't think that there is some hidden agenda behind Brazilian DNA studies, it's just that most Brazilians live in big urban centers, so it's much more representative testing people from big cities than testing rural guys.

But yeah, whites from the countryside in some parts of Brazil are definitely pure or near pure, they don't qualify as ''white latinos'' imo. but as just ''white'' since these people are basically 100% European.

White Latinos are in between 80-100 % European, these guys are likely 99-100% European on average. The vast majority of Brazilians who score 100% European have roots from these communities.

I was not talking about some agenda, I think the same of you. The obvious reasons is just because the big universities are located in Brazil's urban centers and also most brazilians live in huge metropolis, so most people with dna tests come from those coastal metropolitan areas.

Whites in the modern urban centers are that crazy mix of italians with colonial whites with portugueses and with others groups like germans, lebaneses, poles and spaniards to less extent. Basically colonial whites mixed with portugueses of Rio de Janeiro towards North and italians mixed with colonial whites/portugueses towards South of Rio de Janeiro(mainly Sao Paulo).


Also you said that white latinos are 80-100% european when its only true for Arg, Uru and Bra. Self declared White Latinos from other countries are just 60-77.5% euro mostly.

The rest I agree with you.

[Catarinense1998]

Early or later they will mix with pardos/blacks/mixed whites.

[JMack]

Also you said that white latinos are 80-100% european when its only true for Arg, Uru and Bra. Self declared White Latinos from other countries are just 60-77.5% euro mostly.


Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Cuba. Also, in Brazil 80%+ European persons are only common in South/Southeast, maybe Center-West as well. We could basically divide Brazil in two parts: ''Northern'' portion (Northeast/North) and ''Southern'' portion (Southeast, South and Center-West).

Southeastern Brazilian states other than São Paulo (and even places like MS or Goiás) are still more similar to São Paulo/South than to Northeast/North.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Early or later they will mix with pardos/blacks/mixed whites.

In how many years do you think it will occur?

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2 or 3 here look mixed

[JMack]

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2 or 3 here look mixed

Could be, or they are just ugly lol (but one of the women does look mixed imo) . But you also could be seeing it just because they are from Brazil (duh), in most of these towns Amerindians/Blacks didn't even existed when Europeans arrived, most of them actually started from the 0 with the Europeans themselves.

[Catarinense1998]

In how many years do you think it will occur?

10-15 years. Let's assume that people will marry and have children in the future, and also we need to consider these people will not care about the race/ethny of their husbands/wifes. So, early or later, will emerge a trirracial population.

[JMack]

10-15 years. Let's assume that people will marry and have children in the future, and also we need to consider these people will not care about the race/ethny of their husbands/wifes. So, early or later, will emerge a trirracial population.

That would be true if there were enough blacks/pardos/white colonials there. But most people in these cities are local, they only mix in large scale when they go to bigger cities.