Is Maria Sharapova a textbook Neo-Danubian?

[simple user]

I think she is.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe312.jpg
https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-pdb/989257/4e4006e4-8d0b-4bd5-b267-8a4ed555544b/s1200?webp=false
https://img.joinfo.ua/i/2019/04/5cb041109eb7e.jpg
https://www.sportsdaily.ru/s/image/116222.jpg

[Cumansky]

Nah bruh.

[verbcn]

Nose is textbook nordid so no

[simple user]

Nose is textbook nordid so no


This Neo-Danubian man have a Nordic nose.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe314.jpg

[verbcn]

This Neo-Danubian man have a Nordic nose.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe314.jpg

That's a baltic nose, not nordid

[The Blade]

This Neo-Danubian man have a Nordic nose.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe314.jpg
That nose is Uralid. Sharapova has nothing Mongoloid about her, so no, doesn't fit the bill.

[simple user]

That's a baltic nose, not nordid

If this is a Baltic nose therefore Maria Sharapova have a Baltic nose too.

[simple user]

dp

[verbcn]

If this is a Baltic nose therefore Maria Sharapova have a Baltic nose too.

You seem to not understand taxonomy

[simple user]

You seem to not understand taxonomy

Why? Maria Sharapova looks like female version that Neo-Danubiaт isn't it?

[verbcn]

Why? Maria Sharapova looks like female version that Neo-Danubiaт isn't it?

She looks batlid-nordid

[Proto-Shaman]

According to Coon, Neo-Danubian is a mix of Altaic and IE. Could fit.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

yes

[Proto-Shaman]

yes

[simple user]

yes

Vote please!

[Cumansky]

yes

You a Neo Danubian

[simple user]

yes

Thanks mate! Vote please!

[Cumansky]

Blyat

[simple user]

Blyat

Don't curse bro.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You a Neo Danubian

Only partly.

[Cumansky]

Don't curse bro.

I thought you were sis?

[Cumansky]

Only partly.

You close to textbook, not trolling.

[IrisSelene]

I don't see any resemblance TBH

I think THIS person looks much more Neo Danubian than her and I don't even think he fits the bill perfectly either lol

https://i.imgur.com/JsTa2Bx.jpg

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You close to textbook, not trolling.

Sure, Neo-Danubians have black hair and doli skulls ;)

[Dominator]

She just Baltid

[Corded]

shes pred. east-nordid. maybe with some baltid/neo danubian admixture

[simple user]

Perhaps this type is the most common among Russian women.


https://www.sportsdaily.ru/s/image/116222.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmx_MlQXgAAvbL6.jpg
https://shoubiz.guru/wp-content/auploads/542155/fullsize.jpg
https://alabanza.ru/wp-content/cache/thumb/5c/b3d360d17a2e75c_900x0.jpg
https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/uploads/i/20160815/4313964.jpg

[Cumansky]

Blyat

[Cumansky]

https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/uploads/i/20160815/4313964.jpg

10/10

[simple user]

According to Coon Neo-Danubian is Nordic mixed with Baltic.

[simple user]

She looks batlid-nordid

According to Coon Neo-Danubian is Nordic with Baltic admixture.

https://theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate31.htm

[Joso]

what is a neo-danubian

[simple user]

what is a neo-danubian

According to Coon basically Nordic-Baltic mix.

[simple user]

Neo-Danubian(Nordic-Baltic) from Coon.

https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe313.jpg

Nordic-Alpine mix from Coon.

https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe333.jpg

[simple user]

Neo-Danubian from Coon.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe313.jpg


And female version of him, she was classified as Nordic-Baltic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmx_MlQXgAAvbL6.jpg

[SonicYouth]

East Nordid imo

[simple user]

That nose is Uralid. Sharapova has nothing Mongoloid about her, so no, doesn't fit the bill.

Not really, this nose is Upper Palaeolithic.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe314.jpg

The description of this individual from Coon.


Fig. 4 (3 views). A brachycephalic Austrian from the neighborhood of Linz, Upper Austria. Although definitely less Ladogan-looking than than the other individuals on this plate, this Austrian is seen, upon examination, to possess the Neo-Danubian combination of a nearly globular head form, a low nasal skeleton, a broad, elevated nasal tip, a long, convex upper lip, strong cheek furrows, and blondism. As this and the other individuals on this plate demonstrate, the Neo-Danubian is a variable racial type derived from a blending of the Danubian element in the Nordic combination with eastern European Upper Palaeolithic survivors.

So, we can say Neo-Danubian is Eastern Tronder.

[simple user]

B. PURE AND MIXED PALAEOLITHIC AND MESOLITHIC SURVIVORS OF MODERATE HEAD SIZE

(3) Alpine: A reduced and somewhat foetalized survivor of the Upper Palaeolithic population in Late Pleistocene France, highly brachycephalized; seems to represent in a large measure the bearer of the brachycephalic factor in Crô-Magnon. Close approximations to this type appear also in the Balkans and in the highlands of western and central Asia, suggesting that its ancestral prototype was widespread in Late Pleistocene times. In modern races it sometimes appears in a relatively pure form, sometimes as an element in mixed brachycephalic populations of multiple origin. It may have served in both Pleistocene and modern times as a bearer of the tendency toward brachycephalization into various population.

(4) Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times. This type is a blend of a partly mongoloid brachycephalic element with a mesocephalic form of general Upper Palaeolithic aspect; these elements are seen in crania from Lake Ladoga and Salis Roje. (See Chapter IV, section 13, pp. 125-126.) Corded and/or Danubian elements are inextricably blended here, although the mongoloid and Upper Palaeolithic elements seem at present more important. In its present form this composite type shows two numerous variants:

(a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

(b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.

(5) Lappish: A stunted, highly brachycephalized, largely brunet relative of the Ladogan, originally living to the east of the Ladogan type area, in the Urals and western Siberia. Has probably assimilated some evolved mongoloid, but owes its partly mongoloid appearance more to the retention of an early intermediate evolutionary condition. In modern times much mixed with Ladogan and Nordic.

[bimf]

Perhaps this type is the most common among Russian women.


https://www.sportsdaily.ru/s/image/116222.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmx_MlQXgAAvbL6.jpg
https://shoubiz.guru/wp-content/auploads/542155/fullsize.jpg
https://alabanza.ru/wp-content/cache/thumb/5c/b3d360d17a2e75c_900x0.jpg
https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/uploads/i/20160815/4313964.jpg
They dont look like the same type to me. They have different facial types, different facial indexes, different jaws and noses, only same in eyes and hairs color.

[bimf]

According to Coon Neo-Danubian is Nordic mixed with Baltic.

Kind of agree with that, neo-dnubian dosent seem like a uique type to me

[bimf]

East Nordid imo
She looks too chubby(face) and wide-faced to be a east nordid, just baltid with some nordid influence

[simple user]

They dont look like the same type to me. They have different facial types, different facial indexes, different jaws and noses, only same in eyes and hairs color.

1,2,3 look the same to me only 4 and 5 look a bit different.



the Neo-Danubian is a variable racial type derived from a blending of the Danubian element in the Nordic combination with eastern European Upper Palaeolithic survivors.


(a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

But most importantly, they don't look Western they look distinctly NE Euro.

[bimf]

1,2,3 look the same to me only 4 and 5 look a bit different.

not really. 1 and 3 are short-face while 2 has a long face. Between 1 and 3, 1 has a more chubby face and a straight nose while 3 is less chubby, more angular and a concave nose.
They also have different types of jaw.




But most importantly, they don't look Western they look distinctly NE Euro.
Yes cause most of them can be classified as baltid+(east) nordid. Both baltid and east nordid are more-eastern types.

[The Blade]

Not really, this nose is Upper Palaeolithic.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe314.jpg

The description of this individual from Coon.



So, we can say Neo-Danubian is Eastern Tronder.
You have Tronder proper in many regions outside Scandinavia. Basically a Corded-CM mix.
However, Neo-Danubian as rated by authors has a certain amount of Mongoloid admixture (most often observed in skull shape and nose area and eyefolds in some individuals):
''Origin:

Danubian proto-Nordic altered by the semi-mongolid Ladogan racial type of the northeastern forests. This type was brought westward from the Volga country with the migrations of the Baltic Finns during the centuries immediately preceding and after the time of Christ. Today it presents a variable but easily recognizable phenotype of eastern Europe.


Description:

Neo-Danubians are very round-skulled, and their cephalic indices frequently exceed 85. The head form is globular, and the forehead is steep and not seldom protuberant. The face is square to oval in shape, and the combination of a round face and a plump cheek is common. There is often a slight flatness to the Neo-Danubian face.

The nose is moderately leptorrhine, straight to concave in profile, and often snub-tipped in a Ladogan fashion. The nasal skeleton is rather low, with a broad tip.

The upper lip is long and convex, and the cheek furrows are as a rule strong.

Median eyefolds are indicative of a low orbit a heavy deposit of fat in the upper lid. Another fatty deposit - on the malars - seems to be a secondary sex character, as it is most common among women. The malars are only moderately projecting, especially when compared to those of East Baltics and Ladogans.

Neo-Danubian pigmentation is more blond than brunet, and the pigment character is prevailingly light-mixed. The combination of ash-blond hair with gray-mixed eyes seems to be a specialization shared with East Baltics and partially blond Ladogans, but the most common combination is golden blond hair and blue eyes."
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-neo.htm
However, Coon's classification for Northeastern (and to a lesser extent other) Europeans seems pretty debatable and inconsistent, as a good part of his East Baltids are just Borrebies without any Nordid or Mongoloid input. Man you posted fits the Neo-Danubian bill as a Nordic-Uralic-Paleolithic mix but not all of Coon's examples do.

[simple user]

That description is not from Coon but from some pseudo-scientific site.

According to Coon Ladogan is Upper Palaeolithic survivor.


the Neo-Danubian is a variable racial type derived from a blending of the Danubian element in the Nordic combination with eastern European Upper Palaeolithic survivors.

[simple user]

According to Coon East Baltic is


It is a partially reduced Borreby derivative, with Ladogan and Nordic admixture.

The girl on my avatar is a good example of East Baltic.

https://i0.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ZHwaDkTVaus.jpg?resize=550%2C826&ssl=1

[The Blade]

According to Coon East Baltic is



The girl on my avatar is a good example of East Baltic.

https://i0.wp.com/gubdaily.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ZHwaDkTVaus.jpg?resize=550%2C826&ssl=1
My source is based on Coon in this case. This type is his invention.
And exactly the Ladogan element is semi-mongoloid according to Coon.
This girl is just a Cro-Magnon derivative slightly altered by Nordid, nothing Mongoloid about her.

[simple user]

And exactly the Ladogan element is semi-mongoloid according to Coon.
This girl is just a Cro-Magnon derivative slightly altered by Nordid, nothing Mongoloid about her.

According to Coon Ladogan is not Mongolid. Just Upper Palaeolithic type.

[Valentin Isa]

Sharapova is very attractive. She looks pure Russian but can fit in other parts of Europe too (Poland, Ukraine..)

[Benim]

I think this guy "simple user" might be laag's old account, he was in tongue after baltic-uralics just like him.

[Immanenz]

She is a Neo Danubian, just a taller/robuster one