subrace of this cute woman?

[Onychodus]

http://www.mrkhit.info/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=56548&g2_serialNumber=2

[GeistFaust]

http://www.mrkhit.info/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=56548&g2_serialNumber=2

Looks to be Baltid.

[Onychodus]

What is ethnicity?

[GeistFaust]

What is ethnicity?

Polish.

[Onychodus]

Polish.

is she realy looks like polish?:D

[GeistFaust]

is she realy looks like polish?:D

She could pass as Polish I believe.

[Agrippa]

Eastalpinid with Baltid influences for the most part.

[Onychodus]

has she any asian features?

[GeistFaust]

has she any asian features?

Nope nothing East Baltid looking about her all except for maybe in the eye area.

[Onychodus]

Eastalpinid with Baltid influences for the most part.

i thought that alpinid race is dispersed only through central europe?

[GeistFaust]

I still think she is mostly Baltid and she is admixed with the East Aplinoid or at the very least it is diluted.

[Onychodus]

Nope nothing East Baltid looking about her all except for maybe in the eye area.

i think so, slight asian traits (almost invisible).

[Mordid]

i thought that alpinid race is dispersed only through central europe?

East Alpinid are common in Eastern Europe. The proper Alpinid you're talking about is West Alpinid from proper Central Europe such as German, Swiss, French and some Czech. The difference between East Alpinid and West Alpinid is that East Alpinid has Ost-Eurpoid influence, are lighter and more progessive than West Alpinid.

[GeistFaust]

i think so, slight asian traits (almost invisible).

She could pass in Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, and maybe Romania.

[Onychodus]

East Alpinid are common in Eastern Europe. The proper Alpinid you're talking about is West Alpinid from proper Central Europe such as German, Swiss, French and some Czech. The difference between East Alpinid and West Alpinid is that East Alpinid has Ost-Eurpoid influence, are lighter and more progessive than West Alpinid.

where is the east border of the east alpinid subrace?

[Mordid]

where is the east border of the east alpinid subrace?

Slovakia, Czech, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Russia and Bulgaria.

[GeistFaust]

where is the east border of the east alpinid subrace?

Romania primarily some East Aplinoids show up in Russia but this is rare the eastern version of the East Aplinoid is the Gorid.

[Onychodus]

Slovakia, Czech, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Russia and Bulgaria.

geographicaly? in the Ural region?

[Agrippa]

Eastalpinids are present throughout Russia, but more common mainly in the South, parallel to Pontid most of the time.

[Mordid]

Romania primarily some East Aplinoids show up in Russia but this is rare the eastern version of the East Aplinoid is the Gorid.

East Alpinid aren't rare among Russians...

Textbook East Alpinid (her Ost-Europoid part is standard Baltid)
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6232&stc=1&d=1287518749

[GeistFaust]

East Alpinid aren't rare among Russians...

Textbook East Alpinid (her Ost-Europoid part is standard Baltid)
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6232&stc=1&d=1287518749

I am speaking of people who are mostly East Aplinoid most East Aplinoids in Russia are mixed in with a stronger presence of OstEurpoid.

[Onychodus]

I am speaking of people who are mostly East Aplinoid most East Aplinoids in Russia are mixed in with a stronger presence of OstEurpoid.

what is the main difference between east alpinoid and east baltid? they look similar.

[GeistFaust]

what main difference between east alpinoid and east baltid? they look similar.

There is a much bigger difference East Aplinoids don't look as chinky as East Baltids also East Baltids possess a Nordic component whether it be Nord-Pontid or East Nordic. Also East Aplinoids possess a shorter and stumpier head than the East Baltid which tends to be more of an elongated Brachycephalic.

[Onychodus]

can anyone post pictures of eastalpinoid and east baltid to compare?

[Mordid]

I am speaking of people who are mostly East Aplinoid most East Aplinoids in Russia are mixed in with a stronger presence of OstEurpoid.
You have never been to Russia, so shut up.

[Onychodus]

she is tatarian, she is married to russian.
does she resemble polish?

[GeistFaust]

she is tatarian, who is married to russian.

There is nothing Turanid about her.

[Hess]

You have never been to Russia, so shut up.

have you? :rolleyes:

[Onychodus]

That is why i dislike "only who is 100% of european origin" statements. How can you trace your ancestry so far in generations?

[Mordid]

have you? :rolleyes:

http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002043F.gif

[Onychodus]

http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002043F.gif

which regions of russia you have visited?

[GeistFaust]

That is why i dislike "only who is 100% of european origin" statements. How can you trace your ancestry so far in generations?

Although this is true it is fair to say that most Indo Europeans are primarily Indo European going back 1000 years with some small Asian influences such as the Tartars and such that came into Eastern Europe.

[Mordid]

which regions of russia you have visited?

Teh city.

[GeistFaust]

Teh city.

You were probably to busy looking at the woman's behind than their facial structure.

[Mordid]

Although this is true it is fair to say that most Indo Europeans are primarily Indo European going back 1000 years with some small Asian influences such as the Tartars and such that came into Eastern Europe.

Tatars are very diverse, ranging from tall light Nordid to short dark Mongoloidish looking. They have asslimated with many people and become Tartarised.

[Onychodus]

Although this is true it is fair to say that most Indo Europeans are primarily Indo European going back 1000 years with some small Asian influences such as the Tartars and such that came into Eastern Europe.

because some people detest even a small admixture of non-european genes.
this is an official policy of majority of so-called "white nationalist" resources.

[Mordid]

You were probably to busy looking at the woman's behind than their facial structure.

I'm not liar, Geist. I've been there for a trip. You have no ideas what you're talking about in every thread because you lack of experience and got it from teh internet.

[GeistFaust]

because some people detest even small admixture of non-european genes.

Yes I know well I am a Non European quite possibly with a small admixture of Amerindian and possibly some Asian on the aristocratic lines of the family due to intermixing with Tartars going back about 1100 years though.

[Onychodus]

Yes I know well I am a Non European quite possibly with a small admixture of Amerindian and possibly some Asian on the aristocratic lines of the family due to intermixing with Tartars going back about 1100 years though.

So you are non-european and your place in OV section. :)

[GeistFaust]

So you are non-european and your place in OV section. :)

No I am like 1/2000th Amerindian and much less Tartar probably more like 1/millionth.

[Onychodus]

Teh city.

What is a Teh city?:confused:

[Mordid]

What is a Teh city?:confused:

Mokcow.

[GeistFaust]

Mokcow.

A city should not be the area where you go necessarily to get the best representations of the population. Try going to the country side as well. Most Aplinoid types usually adapt best in peasant and country side conditions.

[Onychodus]

No I am like 1/2000th Amerindian and much less Tartar probably more like 1/millionth.

No you must be 100% european, not 99,99999...% :)
so dont spoil purest scandinavian blood :)

[Onychodus]

Mokcow.

i have not heard about such city.:confused:

[GeistFaust]

No you must be 100% european, not 99,99999...% :)
so dont spoil purest scandinavian blood :)

I can't help it that my Scottish sides married English nobility that were related to the Plantangent family. I am sure everyone has at least a percent if not less Asian blood or Amerindian if you are American. At least I don't have African blood or Arabic and that small of a percentage should not make a difference.

[Mordid]

A city should not be the area where you go necessarily to get the best representations of the population. Try going to the country side as well. Most Aplinoid types usually adapt best in peasant and country side conditions.

I know what Russians look like enough more than you. All your ''knowledge'' come from da internet.

[Mordid]

I can't help it that my Scottish sides married English nobility that were related to the Plantangent family. I am sure everyone has at least a percent if not less Asian blood or Amerindian if you are American. At least I don't have African blood or Arabic and that small of a percentage should not make a difference.

This thread isn't about you.

[GeistFaust]

This thread isn't about you.

It has become like that as of now but let us avoid talking about me even briefly and get back to the topic at hand.

[Mordid]

Ok, let's talk about how sexy you are...

[Onychodus]

I know what Russians look like enough more than you. All your ''knowledge'' come from da internet.

and all ethnical russians have 100% "Aryan" apperance?

[Mordid]

and all ethnical russians have 100% "Aryan" apperance?

According to Aherne, they are Aryan mixed with Ost-Eurpoid.

[GeistFaust]

According to Aherne, they are Aryan mixed with Ost-Eurpoid.

Its called the Kurgan Type or the Corded Ware Samartian type.

[Onychodus]

According to Aherne, they are Aryan mixed with Ost-Eurpoid.

all nation?:eek:

[GeistFaust]

all nation?:eek:

That is a fallacious assumption personally the Kurgan and Corded types are usually more native to the North Northeastern parts of Slavic country with the other parts only representing an occasional cropping up of such types.

[Onychodus]

Its called the Kurgan Type or the Corded Ware Samartian type.

can you provide some examples?

[GeistFaust]

can you provide some examples?

Actually better yet I have the link to Aherne's Ayran claims with Agrippa pitching in as well. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22983

[Onychodus]

Actually better yet I have the link to Aherne's Ayran claims with Agrippa pitching in as well. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22983

What about people who doesnt fit to these perfect aryan standarts? Would they be perceived as ethnical russians? For examle, russian+volga german?

[GeistFaust]

What about people who doesnt fit to these perfect aryan standarts? Would they be perceived as ethnical russians? For examle, russian+volga german?

No I think it depends really on their genetic heritage. If they are part German I think they would qualify. On the other it depends what their background is on the Russian side of the family.

[Onychodus]

No I think it depends really on their genetic heritage. If they are part German I think they would qualify. On the other it depends what their background is on the Russian side of the family.

what is the percent of non-russian blood is enough for russian acceptance? 1/8 part? (according to David Lane).

[Mordid]

Onychodus, aren't you Russian ? Geist есть прекрасные киски

[Onychodus]

Onychodus, aren't you Russian ? Geist есть прекрасные киски

i am a slav, I just ask some questions that bother me.:)

[Mordid]

Yeah but what kind of Slav ?

[Onychodus]

Yeah but what kind of Slav ?

mixed slav:)

[Onychodus]

Yeah but what kind of Slav ?

I just want to know by what criteria you will suggest about russianness.

[Onychodus]

Because for white nationalist (for examle) you must be 100% pure blooded.

[Onychodus]

How do you classify this russian Ural cossack?
http://img.lenta.ru/lib/14161169/picture--240.jpg
http://focusnews.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/sobranin.jpg
http://mcontent.life.ru/media/2/2010/10/2325/5fac71aabf7c77f7eeac1b4ed3eba5d8.jpg

Who is whiter? tatarian Nabiulina or this russian man?

[Onychodus]

He is married to jewish "aryan" looking woman Irina Iosifovna Rubinchik

http://pics.livejournal.com/top_lap/pic/0009kd4h
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xojcSDLosdA/TajAZ_Opb4I/AAAAAAAABRs/NcoIdzINBRY/s400/1.jpg

Their "Aryan" looking daughter Sobyanina Anna. She perceived herself to be ethnical russian (i guess so).

http://lustrapedia.info/images/7/77/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_% D0%90%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D 0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0.jpg

[Onychodus]

Both women could easy pass as germans, if they would hide their heritage, so there is no any chance to learn their real heritage. (only DNA-test, but even it will not give 100% result).

[Onychodus]

I wonder what David Duke, Don Black, Lycia and other so-called white nationalists would say about this issue, when they argue about racial purity.

[Onychodus]

That is i dont understand nazi italians.:)
Do you all sure that you will pass DNA-test?

[Agrippa]

Race and genetics are not the same insofar, as someone with smaller admixture can have more deviating traits, for example because of chance/genetic drift or selection in his bloodline/region/population and some variants with stronger admixture don't show any traces of it.

Crucial for racial purity is to me that a phenotype has all important racial traits and will inherit this only.

So for example if you are 1/8 Negrid, but have no important traits of the Negrid race and neither is it possible that potential children will inherit such Negrid traits, you are racially pure.

If you have 1/16 Negrid, but important Negrid traits which might be passed on to your children, you are less pure than the 1/8 person.

Because the racial standard is one of adaptive qualities and phenotypical traits primarily. These being determined genetically, but theoretical admixtures or purity is primarily important, if having a phenotypical effect.

No phenotypical effect, not racial impurity, just genetic one, which is something different. The phenotypical consequences of a mixture are always much more important than counting genes which might have no adaptive qualities at all or are part of the individual, not racial variation.

[Austrvegr]

How do you classify this russian Ural cossack?
Who is whiter? tatarian Nabiulina or this russian man?

He is a Mansi and has a classical Mansi look.

[Austrvegr]

Their "Aryan" looking daughter Sobyanina Anna. She perceived herself to be ethnical russian (i guess so).


To determine Russianness, your guess is as irrelevant as her perception.

[Sturmgewehr]

Cute ????? I will have to disagree on that.

[Radola]

Because for white nationalist (for examle) you must be 100% pure blooded.

LoL, one of the biggest BS I´ve ever heard:D:D ... said who? Is there any kind of law or is there someone who will check out your ancestry and tell you: No way man, you´re not pure blooded:eek::thumb001::rolleyes::coffee::D


I wonder what David Duke, Don Black, Lycia and other so-called white nationalists would say about this issue, when they argue about racial purity.

I´ve never heard Duke arguing about SUCH racial purity, you´re talking about. You seem to have some kind of problem, probably with yourself, are you partly Tatar or something?

[Onychodus]

He is a Mansi and has a classical Mansi look.

He is supposedly has Mansi blood, but he perceived himself as russian, he does not feel any kinship with other ethnicities besides russian ethnicity.
His children and grandchildren will marry to "european" russians.
His non-european genes will dissolve and will be absorbed by russian gene pool

[Onychodus]

So for example if you are 1/8 Negrid, but have no important traits of the Negrid race and neither is it possible that potential children will inherit such Negrid traits, you are racially pure.


"important traits of the Negrid race" is an abstract term. What mathematical methods are to determine "important traits of the Negrid race" and to confirm racial purity?

[Onychodus]

Cute ????? I will have to disagree on that.

she is a cute "polish-looking" tatar, as someone guess.

[Austrvegr]

He is supposedly has Mansi blood, but he perceived himself as russian, he does not feel any kinship with other ethnicities besides russian ethnicity.
His children and grandchildren will marry to "european" russians.
His non-european genes will dissolve and will be absorbed by russian gene pool

Whatever he perceives himself, his Mansi looks disqualify him, plus his Jewish wife. Fortunately, his children & grandchildren are on the way to the US and will not be absorbed by Russian gene pool.

[Onychodus]

are you partly Tatar or something?
:eek:
are you realy sure in 100 % slavness of yourself?

[Onychodus]

I know people who are 1/4 tatar, and they look like typical slavs and have nationalistic feelings.

[Onychodus]

Whatever he perceives himself, his Mansi looks disqualify him, plus his Jewish wife. Fortunately, his children & grandchildren are on the way to the US and will not be absorbed by Russian gene pool.

I just used it as example.
his wife is a typical scandinavian looking woman. her semitic genes are almost all bred out.

[Onychodus]

I´ve never heard Duke arguing about SUCH racial purity, you´re talking about.

In order to maintain a relevant discussion group, account registrations are limited to people who are from this [European] demographic section. Therefore this forum is European-specific. (Apricity)

So in response to the question, "Who's White?" we answer: "Non-Jewish people of wholly European descent. No exceptions." (Stormfront)

[Radola]

:eek:
are you realy sure in 100 % slavness of yourself?


In order to maintain a relevant discussion group, account registrations are limited to people who are from this [European] demographic section. Therefore this forum is European-specific. (Apricity)

So in response to the question, "Who's White?" we answer: "Non-Jewish people of wholly European descent. No exceptions." (Stormfront)

You answered pretty much for yourself...noone can be 100% sure about his ancestry so you shouldn´t be too concerned about such statements.
The SF quote is just a phrase, they mean you shouldn´t have half of your family from Pakistan or something like that...I´m sure noone will ever ask you if your ancestors in 500 BC lived in Afrika...That was my point, hope you get it.

[Onychodus]

I understand it in this way. If you look european, but have some non-european admixture, keep it in secret better.

[Radola]

I understand it in this way. If you look european, but have some non-european admixture, keep it in secret better.

No, that´s maybe your case...I was speaking about the fact that noone can surely tell that he has purely european ancestry, that´s all.

SF quote means: If you are persuaded you´re European, feel free to log in. If you´re not...go away. (anyway, they will not visit you and check your statement out, it´s just matter of your own conscience)
So I ask you again, do you have any doubts about your ancestry or why all those weird threads where you seem to show us "europeans" and then you just explain us how non-european they are.

[Onychodus]

No.
I just want to understand what is the standard of european view.
Because it is easy to hide your real heritage (during repressions for example),so offspring never know the truth. They would think that they are pure, because there is no mathematical formulas to count on it.

lets suggest, If the pro-preservation government will get to power, how it would deal with racial selection?
because many people, who posts their pictures and claims to be "white nationalists" without any alien admixture in 7 generations, they often have very "strange" look. There is threads for poll white person or not (this person claims to be white), and often the options are divided like 50/50.

[Onychodus]

those weird threads where you seem to show us "europeans" and then you just explain us how non-european they are

Because thread is dedicated to racial classification. I never say about their "uneuropeness", so simply classify them.

"how non-european they are"
This is your words, not mine. ;)

[Hess]

No.
I just want to understand what is the standard of european view.
Because it is easy to hide your real heritage (during repressions for example),so offspring never know the truth. They would think that they are pure, because there is no mathematical formulas to count on it.

lets suggest, If the pro-preservation government will get to power, how it would deal with racial selection?
because many people, who posts their pictures and claims to be "white nationalists" without any alien admixture in 7 generations, they often have very "strange" look. There is threads for poll white person or not (this person claims to be white), and often the options are divided like 50/50.

I think youre making it more complicated than it has to be. If you belong to any sub-race of the Europid race, you're white.

http://racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html

[Agrippa]

Well, depends on the definition of white. Europid yes, white in the sense of European no, but that is really a question of definition.

Usually it makes more sense to talk about European rather than "white", because obviously, a clearly and probably even light pigmented Europid variant is not much "less white" racially than many Europeans, but still no European.

[Breedingvariety]

Who is whiter? tatarian Nabiulina or this russian man?
The Tatar woman is whiter.