Why it is common of native Americans and Caucasians to have aquiline noses?

[Quiro_Brianza]

I mean this nose is present in all ethnicities, but why a lot of native Americans have this nose and other mongoloids like Chineses or Japanese is rare to find people with this nose.
Caucasians have a lot people with this nose like native Americans, so that also leads me to ask if natives before came to America they were not entirely mongoloid or the nose was acquired by evolutions due to adapt to America (I have see this nose in natives in all America), the nose is very particular among mongoloids.

[PaleoEuropean]

They share common ancestors

[21993]

Proto-Indo-Iranian mix in both might be a reason for that. My father’s ancestry is from NW Caucasus and my mother’s ancestry is from NE Caucasus. Both of them have aquiline nose but interestingly, I have straight nose.

[Lousianaboy]

The native american nose is flat and wide, they have round head, i have seen cherokees with aquilines noses but i think is the racial admixture

[Quiro_Brianza]

The native american nose is flat and wide, they have round head, i have seen cherokees with aquilines noses but i think is the racial admixture

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/0e38aa199d641b5559fec1d4817b9f6b.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e94a8722c53e87b740b37c31967821cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e8abde9df1888704365a96bc8dd24f81.jpg

A lot of native have this nose and you can see that in a lot of mixed people in Latino America is really common, the people that came from Siberia to America I think that was not very homogeneus.

[Quiro_Brianza]

They share common ancestors

Yes, I think that the people that first habitants of America were already mixed with different stuff.

[Lousianaboy]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/0e38aa199d641b5559fec1d4817b9f6b.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e94a8722c53e87b740b37c31967821cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e8abde9df1888704365a96bc8dd24f81.jpg

A lot of native have this nose and you can see that in a lot of mixed people in Latino America is really common, the people that came from Siberia to America I think that was not very homogeneus.

The people from the south of Mexico can resemble the ancient siberians or Inuits, and in you go to the pacific a lot of the people can fit like maories

[Quiro_Brianza]

Proto-Indo-Iranian mix in both might be a reason for that. My father’s ancestry is from NW Caucasus and my mother’s ancestry is from NE Caucasus. Both of them have aquiline nose but interestingly, I have straight nose.

Interesting, I have found some pictures of Ayrans and they have a lot this aquiline nose, Armenians also have the nose a lot.

[Lousianaboy]

The people from the south of Mexico can resemble the ancient siberians or Inuits, and in you go to the pacific a lot of the people can fit like maories

A lot of mexicans can resemble the utah and new mexico indians

[Quiro_Brianza]

The people from the south of Mexico can resemble the ancient siberians or Inuits, and in you go to the pacific a lot of the people can fit like maories

Mayas Kind of, other native tribe in Mexico were the Olmecas and they have negroid features (like wide noses). The northern and central tribes are really different, Aztecs/Mexicas have the aquiline nose a lot. The people that Came to America were very diverse. [emoji848]

[PaleoEuropean]

Yes, I think that the people that first habitants of America were already mixed with different stuff.

There are natives with indo-Iranian/Turkic R haplogroups

[Quiro_Brianza]

A lot of mexicans can resemble the utah and new mexico indians

There is a lot of olmeca descendents in Mexico, and just look at how they represented themselves
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/fc0d27dab1838e3387f02af51c0b6668.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

As you can see, the groups with the highest Turkic/Central Asian lineages are the tribes that have the most indo-Aryan looks. I am related to Native Americans and the West Coast Indians have very little Central Asian lineages and look very Mongloid/Eskimid or Central American

https://i.imgur.com/uwgLb8w.jpg

[Quiro_Brianza]

There are natives with indo-Iranian/Turkic R haplogroups

It’s interesting and true, I am a big of fan of Borussia Dortmund and watched a video that different players of the team made the DNA test in the YouTube channel of the team, and Nuri Sahin (Turkish player) made the test and scored like 3% of Central American in the Ancestry test, and i was like “what the hell, why would a Turkish score Native American because there is almost no relation in history of civilization”, I mean with what you just told me, I know why now.

[Lousianaboy]

Mayas Kind of, other native tribe in Mexico were the Olmecas and they have negroid features (like wide noses). The northern and central tribes are really different, Aztecs/Mexicas have the aquiline nose a lot. The people that Came to America were very diverse. [emoji848]

Central mexicans resemble Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Texas natives

[PaleoEuropean]

It’s interesting and true, I am a big of fan of Borussia Dortmund and watched a video that different players of the team made the DNA test in the YouTube channel of the team, and Nuri Sahin (Turkish player) made the test and scored like 3% of Central American in the Ancestry test, and i was like “what the hell, why would a Turkish score Native American because there is almost no relation in history of civilization”, I mean with what you just told me, I know why now.

It is an old link, but it is still there.

[PaleoEuropean]

There is a lot of olmeca descendents in Mexico, and just look at how they represented themselves
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/fc0d27dab1838e3387f02af51c0b6668.jpg

Looks like Pacific Natives, very common among Central Americans, they have less R haplogroups as well, South America and North America are higher.

[Quiro_Brianza]

It is an old link, but it is still there.

Now I understand.
This is the link of the DNA test and the comments point out this native heritage of this Turk player.
https://youtu.be/C66VcXCKkNs

[PaleoEuropean]

Now I understand.
This is the link of the DNA test and the comments point out this native heritage of this Turk player.
https://youtu.be/C66VcXCKkNs

I think a few members on here got native american too

[Quiro_Brianza]

Looks like Pacific Natives, very common among Central Americans, they have less R haplogroups as well, South America and North America are higher.

Yes they look a bit like Samoans, but not with the physical prowess of this last. I mean they are beasts, their rugby teams are a force. I didn’t know the info about the haplogroups of natives.

[PaleoEuropean]

Yes they look a bit like Samoans, but not with the physical prowess of this last. I mean they are beasts, their rugby teams are a force. I didn’t know the info about the haplogroups of natives.

There was a myth about a tribe of giant Polynesians who inhabited the west coast of south America that built European looking houses beaches and cliffs

[Quiro_Brianza]

There was a myth about a tribe of giant Polynesians who inhabited the west coast of south America that built European looking houses beaches and cliffs

I was unaware of that, thanks for the info. You really nailed the point of my doubt. [emoji41]

[PaleoEuropean]

I was unaware of that, thanks for the info. You really nailed the point of my doubt. [emoji41]

I was trying to find the story/name but I cant; I read it like 15 years ago

[PaleoEuropean]

I think it might have been the Patagons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagon

"One day we suddenly saw a naked man of giant stature on the shore of the port, dancing, singing, and throwing dust on his head. The captain-general [i.e., Magellan] sent one of our men to the giant so that he might perform the same actions as a sign of peace. Having done that, the man led the giant to an islet where the captain-general was waiting. When the giant was in the captain-general's and our presence he marveled greatly, and made signs with one finger raised upward, believing that we had come from the sky. He was so tall that we reached only to his waist, and he was well proportioned"

[chociprasa]

Samis (indigenous Scandinavians) have it aswell sometimes. I think it has to do with the positioning of the maxillae.

[TheOldNorth]

They share common ancestors

this is true, the Ancient north Eurasians make up 10-20% of European DNA and around 40% of non Inuit/Aleut Native Americans

[PaleoEuropean]

Samis (indigenous Scandinavians) have it aswell sometimes. I think it has to do with the positioning of the maxillae.

They also share a common ancestor with Native Americans, Siberians, Mongoloids, Turks and Indo-Aryans though, they show up as Central Asian Steppe sometimes too

[Quiro_Brianza]

I think it might have been the Patagons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagon

"One day we suddenly saw a naked man of giant stature on the shore of the port, dancing, singing, and throwing dust on his head. The captain-general [i.e., Magellan] sent one of our men to the giant so that he might perform the same actions as a sign of peace. Having done that, the man led the giant to an islet where the captain-general was waiting. When the giant was in the captain-general's and our presence he marveled greatly, and made signs with one finger raised upward, believing that we had come from the sky. He was so tall that we reached only to his waist, and he was well proportioned"

It’s interesting to hear this story, I haven’t heard a lot of folklore of the Argentina native Americans a lot, it is one of the least known groups of natives in America.
I will tell you an interesofact about other natives:
In Mexico, natives were clean af, Moctezuma (one of the emperators of the Mexicas) took two showers a day to feel fresh and comfortable and impulsed the habitants of Tenochtitlán to do the same (this was stated by the same Spaniards and that they found this habit weird because they normally took one or two showers a month because of some weird belief), there were public showers. They tended to have all places clean in the city build over a lake (Tenochtitlán). Mexicas hated the smell of the Spaniards in fact, with this habits and the diseases that the Spanish brought from Europe because in those times Europeans were very unsanitary. This diseases were the main reason of why Aztec empire fell. Interesting info

[IrisSelene]

The native american nose is flat and wide, they have round head, i have seen cherokees with aquilines noses but i think is the racial admixture

that is not true... maybe the natives from north america, but the south natives all have longer faces and aquiline noses... especially natives of peru lol they might have wider noses than europeans but theyre still mostly aquilline

https://i.imgur.com/uJUht0G.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/z8xjr7O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8qO3cFg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wDqBfLS.jpg

[Quiro_Brianza]

that is not true... maybe the natives from north america, but the south natives all have longer faces and aquiline noses... especially natives of peru lol they might have wider noses than europeans but theyre still mostly aquilline

https://i.imgur.com/uJUht0G.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/z8xjr7O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8qO3cFg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wDqBfLS.jpg


True, look at this image of a Native American and the other is an Armenian.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e6ce5c4eeaa82ecb5ed062e4ff28314e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/ba365a832c64cc853f2b8096be979b9a.jpg

They have almost the exact same nose!!!!
Many Natives had some part of antique Caucasian blood, and the info that the guy that send me info of the haplogroups confirms this. This is why the noses, pretty similar to aryans for example. And also other native tribes had negroid blood in them also, like olmecas of Mexico.

[Quiro_Brianza]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/feac708e919563762a8639d67f8343fb.jpg
The pic of this native is amazing, she almost doesn’t show any similares to the eyes of the typical mongoloids, nothing similar to the Chinese eyes for example [emoji54][emoji32]

[IrisSelene]

True, look at this image of a Native American and the other is an Armenian.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/e6ce5c4eeaa82ecb5ed062e4ff28314e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/ba365a832c64cc853f2b8096be979b9a.jpg

They have almost the exact same nose!!!!
Many Natives had some part of antique Caucasian blood, and the info that the guy that send me info of the haplogroups confirms this. This is why the noses, pretty similar to aryans for example. And also other native tribes had negroid blood in them also, like olmecas of Mexico.Stop trolling.

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[Pansarkamrat]

Samis (indigenous Scandinavians) have it aswell sometimes. I think it has to do with the positioning of the maxillae.

Samis have lowbrigde upturned nose.

[Rico33]

They have not enough admixture with Australoid, is my guess.

[IrisSelene]

Samis have lowbrigde upturned nose.That's what I thought... Don't they normally have small button or upturned noses?

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[Quiro_Brianza]

Stop trolling.

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I don’t know why you consider this trolling? My point is that natives that came from Asia to America via the Bering strait were very diverse (some with features of negroids, other with Caucasoids along side with mongoloid), and many share the same haplogroups R to indo Aryans and Turks, this is an strong reason of why a lot of natives all over America have aquiline noses like the examples that you posted. Natives have a lot in common with Central Asians, the evolution path was separated once natives isolated themselves in America, but it hasn’t passed a lot of time since that happened to modern days, so it’s logical the similarities with some groups.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/7e6fbf6c5a6a7de97cdd81b1feeda378.jpg

This table was shared by PaleoEuropean

[dperucca]

They are Eurasian people..a lot of Altaic blood. You see it more and more the further North you go

[chociprasa]

Samis have lowbrigde upturned nose.

Not all of them.

[Quiro_Brianza]

They are Eurasian people..a lot of Altaic blood. You see it more and more the further North you go

You are right

[Dawnbringer]

While leptorrhine noses are typical of both cold and dry climates, people from dry climates are more likely to have a more convex nasal profile than people from wetter climates. This is because a higher nasal cavity is optimal to humidify air than simply warm it and convex noses have the highest nasal cavity. Siberia has a cold dry climate so ANE people would have a predisposition towards convex and leptorrhine noses and so would Native Americans originally. In México, Central America and Northern South America nasal index has increased somewhat for more efficient breathing in a warm climate. Still, these regions have not been inhabited long enough for nasal index to be as high as equatorial Africans. Native Americans with mesorrhine noses often still have a somewhat convex Profile that was found among their ANE ancestors.

West Eurasia has been populated far longer than the Americas and their is a strong relationship between climate and noseform. Saudi Arabians have little ANE ancestry but frequently have convex noses because the climate they are currently living in favors noses that can most effectively humidify inhaled air. Northwestern Europeans have straighter, yet still leptorrhine noses because they are enough to warm humid inhaled air.

[Quiro_Brianza]

While leptorrhine noses are typical of both cold and dry climates, people from dry climates are more likely to have a more convex nasal profile than people from wetter climates. This is because a higher nasal cavity is optimal to humidify air than simply warm it and convex noses have the highest nasal cavity. Siberia has a cold dry climate so ANE people would have a predisposition towards convex and leptorrhine noses and so would Native Americans originally. In México, Central America and Northern South America nasal index has increased somewhat for more efficient breathing in a warm climate. Still, these regions have not been inhabited long enough for nasal index to be as low as equatorial Africans. Native Americans with mesorrhine noses often still have a somewhat convex Profile that was found among their ANE ancestors.

West Eurasia has been populated far longer than the Americas and their is a strong relationship between climate and noseform. Saudi Arabians have little ANE ancestry but frequently have convex noses because the climate they are currently living in favors noses that can most effectively humidify inhaled air. Northwestern Europeans have straighter, yet still leptorrhine noses because they are enough to warm humid inhaled air.

Interesting explanation, it also makes sense the relation because of genetics. Natives were not isolated for a long time. Natives had a relation with euroasia. This explains it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

[Sacrificed Ram]

Due some reason agricultural peoples tend to develop this feature (low protein nutrition?). But you will say you know nomadic pastoral peoples with this feature, what occurs is they were agricultural sedentary peoples, but they became nomadic pastoral due some drought in their environment.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Due some reason agricultural peoples tend to develop this feature (low protein nutrition?). But you will say you know nomadic pastoral peoples with this feature, what occurs is they were agricultural sedentary peoples, but they became nomadic pastoral due some drought in their environment.

Interesting, this physical feature among caucasians is more prominent in Iranians, i don’t know why.

[RenaRyuguu]

In Japan a high nose bridge means you're of noble descent is all I know about noses

[Quiro_Brianza]

In Japan a high nose bridge means you're of noble descent is all I know about noses

I suppose because is not very common

[RenaRyuguu]

I suppose because is not very common

Ofc it's not common that's why it's called a high prominent nose bridge and people pay loads to have it in Korea. Rarely is anyone born with it

[Quiro_Brianza]

Ofc it's not common that's why it's called a high prominent nose bridge and people pay loads to have it in Korea. Rarely is anyone born with it

Those Koreans basically change their facial features completely, their pop idols look so plastic.

[RenaRyuguu]

Those Koreans basically change their facial features completely, their pop idols look so plastic.

Not all are plastic most are though.

Yoona isn't

http://www.kpopmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/YOONA-SNSD_49.png

but she's prob mixed

[Quiro_Brianza]

Not all are plastic most are though.

Yoona isn't

http://www.kpopmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/YOONA-SNSD_49.png

but she's prob mixed

She looks mixed, but what I see is that if they mix, they still look Asian. Casually I find Korean girls more beautiful when they are natural and not with skin whitening products. Their natural skin color is pretty but they want to look like the color of a death body person, It still look unnatural

[Sacrificed Ram]

Interesting, this physical feature among caucasians is more prominent in Iranians, i don’t know why.

Anatolia and iranian plateau were important areas of dispersal of metallurgy, maybe they were also source of dispersion of convex nose.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Anatolia and iranian plateau were important areas of dispersal of metallurgy, maybe they were also source of dispersion of convex nose.

True, also a lot of North Americans natives tribes from Mexico and US, have that kind of nose, there is also genetic evidence that says that natives were a mixed group and they have euroasian origin before they went to Siberia and then America via de Bering strait. See this article and you know why some coincidences like noses and the table of haplogroups that paleoeuropean showed me is very clear evidence.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

[RenaRyuguu]

True, also a lot of North Americans natives tribes from Mexico and US, have that kind of nose, there is also genetic evidence that says that natives were a mixed group and they have euroasian origin. See this article and you know why some coincidences like noses and the table of haplogroups that paleoeuropean showed me is very clear evidence.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

exactly

[RenaRyuguu]

She looks mixed, but what I see is that if they mix, they still look Asian. Casually I find Korean girls more beautiful when they are natural and not with skin whitening products. Their natural skin color is pretty but they want to look like the color of a death body person, It still look unnatural

Not all Koreans are tan. Dahyun is the palest Korean I've ever seen let me show you.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c5/3e/25/c53e25b74c08a4c0dd950b60380b65cc.jpg

[Quiro_Brianza]

Not all Koreans are tan. Dahyun is the palest Korean I've ever seen let me show you.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c5/3e/25/c53e25b74c08a4c0dd950b60380b65cc.jpg

That is the palest person I have ever seen in my life [emoji54], she also doesn’t look like Nordic pale, it’s different and not very attractive imho. I know not all Koreans are tan, but the majority are not so pale as they appear, even men use make up. East Asians are the best at putting make up, IMO.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

That is the palest person I have ever seen in my life [emoji54], she also doesn’t look like Nordic pale, it’s different and not very attractive imho. I know not all Koreans are tan, but the majority are not so pale as they appear, even men use make up. East Asians are the best at putting make up, IMO.
That doesn’t look natural at all. They probably use loads of whitening products.

[RenaRyuguu]

That doesn’t look natural at all. They probably use loads of whitening products.

Dahyun didn't here is her as a child

http://cdn.koreaboo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/nayeon-baby.jpg

http://cdn.koreaboo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/dahynbaby.jpg

[IrisSelene]

That doesn’t look natural at all. They probably use loads of whitening products.That ain't natural at all. She has BB Cream on. I know because I used it. It's like a Korean version of a covering cream and it also whitens the skin and protects it from the sun. Lol I had to get a Korean one bc the products in Spain were too dark for me. But the Korean one was too pale. I looked just as dead as that girl.

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[RenaRyuguu]

That ain't natural at all. She has BB Cream on. I know because I used it. It's like a Korean version of a covering cream and it also whitens the skin and protects it from the sun. Lol I had to get a Korean one bc the products in Spain were too dark for me. But the Korean one was too pale. I looked just as dead as that girl.

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gurl Dahyun is lighter than you trust me

[Quiro_Brianza]

That doesn’t look natural at all. They probably use loads of whitening products.

I also think that, also their white is not reddish like caucasians that makes them look kind of weird and unnatural.

[RenaRyuguu]

this is her natural skin tone look at her body she didn't bleach herself yall are crazy she's not Michael Jackson


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3gR9VmHXo

[IrisSelene]

gurl Dahyun is lighter than you trust meI'm not saying she isn't but that color isn't natural, and if it's natural she should go to the doctor bc that the color a dead body has.

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[Quiro_Brianza]

gurl Dahyun is lighter than you trust me

But it is a different kind of light, not reddish.

[RenaRyuguu]

But it is a different kind of light, not reddish.

well obv she's for the most part East Asian and they're like yellow when tan

[IrisSelene]

this is her natural skin tone look at her body she didn't bleach herself yall are crazy she's not Michael Jackson


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3gR9VmHXo90% of Korean celebrities bleach their skin. Not even just Korean celebrities. Even American ones.

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[RenaRyuguu]

But it is a different kind of light, not reddish.

She's not Irish to tan red lmao

[Quiro_Brianza]

I'm not saying she isn't but that color isn't natural, and if it's natural she should go to the doctor bc that the color a dead body has.

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Exactly, she has the color of a death body.

[RenaRyuguu]

90% of Korean celebrities bleach their skin. Not even just Korean celebrities. Even American ones.

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ok i can't talk about kpop with you because you dk korean beauty nv

[RenaRyuguu]

Exactly, she has the color of a death body.

Wealthy East Asians don't tan cuz they don't wanna look like other races

[FountainOfSalmacis]

gurl Dahyun is lighter than you trust me
How can you be so sure? All I know is that children are paler than adults, and due to cultural practices chances are that she uses products.

[IrisSelene]

Yall this is her natural skin color lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/57cea4a6b5d20c45087dab95bd484acd.jpg

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[RenaRyuguu]

How can you be so sure? All I know is that children are paler than adults, and due to cultural practices chances are that she uses products.

because I went to Korea and I follow kpop

[RenaRyuguu]

Yall this is her natural skin color lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/57cea4a6b5d20c45087dab95bd484acd.jpg

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yeah but why don't you follow this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguRUMGhhbc

why do you like comment kpop as a Westerner if you're a true kpop fan you would look at their habits

[Quiro_Brianza]

Yall this is her natural skin color lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/57cea4a6b5d20c45087dab95bd484acd.jpg

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She has a beautiful color in that photos without whitening products, she is very cute in that photo.

[IrisSelene]

yeah but why don't you follow this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguRUMGhhbc

why do you like comment kpop as a Westerner if you're a true kpop fan you would look at their habits?? I followed their trends when I was 13. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/635bd45488889a759c9bd4524f0312ee.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/3a1e948c485b0c16399a3f1f4a405910.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/56bc6b1b11e0c653b0ec0c441802eb65.jpg

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[RenaRyuguu]

?? I followed their trends when I was 13. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/635bd45488889a759c9bd4524f0312ee.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/3a1e948c485b0c16399a3f1f4a405910.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/56bc6b1b11e0c653b0ec0c441802eb65.jpg

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why did you stop?

[IrisSelene]

She has a beautiful color in that photos without whitening products, she is very cute in that photo.Yeah.... Idk why they obsess so much over sickly white skin.

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[IrisSelene]

why did you stop?Bc I grew up and got bored of makeup

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[RenaRyuguu]

Bc I grew up and got bored of makeup

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oh well

[Quiro_Brianza]

because I went to Korea and I follow kpop

I think that they want to look like people of Finland or Russia, being like the nordics of east Asia.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Yeah.... Idk why they obsess so much over sickly white skin.

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Cause they admire the european race.

[IrisSelene]

I think that they want to look like people of Finland or Russia, being like the nordics of east Asia.I doubt they even know what real fins and Russians look like lol they have a stereotyped and idealized idea of what westerners look like in general.

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[IrisSelene]

Cause they admire the european race.Lol most of the European race are the same skin color as them tho. The really pale Europeans are a minority.

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[RenaRyuguu]

Well better to wanna look Russian White than like Kim Kardashian....

[Quiro_Brianza]

I doubt they even know what real fins and Russians look like lol they have a stereotyped and idealized idea of what westerners look like in general.

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I think that they reach the limit to look like a westerner, because there are a lot of things that they can’t change like the shape of the skull. Weird for a country that was not conquered by an european country

[Quiro_Brianza]

Well better to wanna look Russian White than like Kim Kardashian....

I agree with this, I have seen some Americans get skin cancer for staying so much time in the sun

[RenaRyuguu]

I agree with this, I have seen some Americans get skin cancer for staying so much time in the sun

no one really tans srsly anymore. The sun is dangerous. For the most part these girls use fake tan to make money on Youtube cuz that's the most popular skin color as of right now

[IrisSelene]

I think that they reach the limit to look like a westerner, because there are a lot of things that they can’t change like the shape of the skull. Weird for a country that was not conquered by an european countryThe skull? But even in Europe the skull differs in each region, that's stupid.

Well tbh, their obsession started after the Korean War bc they saw Americans as their heroes and started idolizing them.

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[FountainOfSalmacis]

Lol most of the European race are the same skin color as them tho. The really pale Europeans are a minority.

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Not really. 90309 I don’t think they want to look pale, just a normal european skin tone.

[Quiro_Brianza]

no one really tans srsly anymore. The sun is dangerous. For the most part these girls use fake tan to make money on Youtube cuz that's the most popular skin color as of right now

Yes, but there are some that still tan in the sun. Ariana grande uses a lot of fake tan make up, at first I though she was Cuban or Mexican [emoji1787].

[FountainOfSalmacis]

The skull? But even in Europe the skull differs in each region, that's stupid.

Well tbh, their obsession started after the Korean War bc they saw Americans as their heroes and started idolizing them.

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Even if the skull differs within Europe, it’s still identifiable and distinct from other races. You can tell apart caucasian, negroid and mongoloid skulls, police and archeologists do it all the time.

[Quiro_Brianza]

The skull? But even in Europe the skull differs in each region, that's stupid.

Well tbh, their obsession started after the Korean War bc they saw Americans as their heroes and started idolizing them.

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Calm down, lol. Also media is still dominated by euros, their beauty standard is unnatural for them.
Also Americans are people that live in the American continent, argentinians, Chileans, Cubans, Canadians are also Americans.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Even if the skull differs within Europe, it’s still identifiable and distinct from other races. You can tell apart caucasian, negroid and mongoloid skulls, police and archeologists do it all the time.

True, I am not sure if there was a plásticas surgery to Do that they would do it. mestizos of different races are harder to distinguish tho even with skull shape.

[RenaRyuguu]

Yes, but there are some that still tan in the sun. Ariana grande uses a lot of fake tan make up, at first I though she was Cuban or Mexican [emoji1787].

She's a quarter Arab.

Here's her pale:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b88975e48c84e027460714a6c37ccdb0

can easily pass in Saudi Arabia

[Quiro_Brianza]

She's a quarter Arab.

Here's her pale:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b88975e48c84e027460714a6c37ccdb0

can easily pass in Saudi Arabia

She looks weird in that photo, She looks Italian in that photo. She can pass in some different places I suppose

[IrisSelene]

She looks weird in that photo, She looks Italian in that photo. She can pass in some different places I supposeShe's full Italian. Not Arab at all.


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[Quiro_Brianza]

She's full Italian. Not Arab at all.


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That is what i think

[The Great Uniter]

North Native Americans have actually haplogroup C which is virtually nonexistent in S. America among native S. Americans. That's why N. N. Americans have aqualine nose, widely robust and openly prounounced long-rammus jaw and S. Americans don't.

[Quiro_Brianza]

North Native Americans have actually haplogroup C which is virtually nonexistent in S. America among native S. Americans. That's why N. N. Americans have aqualine nose, widely robust and openly prounounced long-rammus jaw and S. Americans don't.

Not at all, some have C. But the majority of Northern American tribes that includes the countries of Mexico, Canada and USA normally score more Q and R1, NaDenne tribe score 42% C. But is the only https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/c1f3172e7284b19d3b8260112f65a807.jpg
You can see that in the table

[Quiro_Brianza]

North Native Americans have actually haplogroup C which is virtually nonexistent in S. America among native S. Americans. That's why N. N. Americans have aqualine nose, widely robust and openly prounounced long-rammus jaw and S. Americans don't.
This is a Native American girl from Mexico
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/7e0e4f732f091577087015cf845f4e03.jpg

[The Great Uniter]

This is a Native American girl from Mexico
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/7e0e4f732f091577087015cf845f4e03.jpg

Central Americans possess genetically common origin with South Americans more or less. S. Americans were mixed with Australoids at the far south.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Central Americans possess genetically common origin with South Americans more or less. S. Americans were mixed with Australoids at the far south.

Australoids?
We are speaking about genetics and haplogroups, no Native American tribe has any relation with Autraloids, completely different. In fact as we have been saying natives were mixed and they came in different groups, normally was the mix of mongoloids and caucasoids (Like approximately 30% caucásoid and the rest Mongoloid, similar to actual siberians, because natives were Siberian’s). negroid blood I don’t have any doubt that was present But in very few tribes. Australoids don’t have anything to do with them, I don’t know why you are bringing them. Also learn the difference:
North America: Mexico, US, Canada
Central America: From Belice to Panama
South America: from Colombia to Argentina

[dududud]

I don' thave aquiline nose, but french nose.

[Quiro_Brianza]

I don' thave aquiline nose, but french nose.

I also know that it is called Roman nose,, you can name it in many ways. It was so French that Nezahualcóyotl had that nose also, lol.

[The Great Uniter]

Australoids?
We are speaking about genetics and haplogroups, no Native American tribe has any relation with Autraloids, completely different. In fact as we have been saying natives were mixed and they came in different groups, normally was the mix of mongoloids and caucasoids (Like approximately 30% caucásoid and the rest Mongoloid, similar to actual siberians, because natives were Siberian’s). negroid blood I don’t have any doubt that was present But in very few tribes. Australoids don’t have anything to do with them, I don’t know why you are bringing them. Also learn the difference:
North America: Mexico, US, Canada
Central America: From Belice to Panama
South America: from Colombia to Argentina

Bro, listen to me

[Quiro_Brianza]

Bro, listen to me

Zero evidence of your arguments.

[The Great Uniter]

Zero evidence of your arguments.

Bro, you're definitely wrong and you have no evidence and arguments, listen to me. You understand? You make really no sense, listen to me.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Bro, you're definitely wrong and you have no evidence and arguments, listen to me. You understand? You make really no sense, listen to me.

All the evidence is in the thread, read it completely. Get high that IQ that is in negative numbers, and “listen to me bro” as you say, lol

[The Great Uniter]

All the evidence is in the thread, read it completely. Get high that IQ that is in negative numbers, and “listen to me bro” as you say, lol

Wow. you're in fact personally attacking me and my IQ ������ let me call the mods to ban you trolling and personal attacks ����, that's a new low. Wow. Doublewow. All the evidence is in my favour. Mang..., listen to me, ok? I have higher IQ than you, it's more than obvious because I actually know far South American had Australoids, understand me ok? I am not falling down your level, bro, I hope you seek help you need dawg. You know I'm right. Read this:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/

[Quiro_Brianza]

Wow. you're in fact personally attacking me ������ let me call the mods to ban you trolling and personal attacks ����, that's a new low. Wow. Doublewow. All the evidence is in my favour. Dude..., listen ok? I have higher IQ than you, it's more than obvious because I actually know far South American had Australoids, understand me ok? I am not falling down your level, bro, I hope you seek help you need dawg.

We are speaking about native Americans as a whole, there is a theory about amazonians having australoid blood at some degree (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/), but it is not enough for scientist to determine that, the articles that you send me make a point that is not enough, even at the end the scientist are not sure about what degree or if it’s truth at all. Haplogroups show that natives in majority and not in small group are mostrly mongoloids (like chineses, Japaneses, koreans) and a percentage of Caucasian. The evidence is here and also the table of haplogroups shared by PaleoEuropean.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

Or natives look more australoid than East Asian to you? Lol
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190813/885501a271cb1e8d95155553604b653a.jpg
And this is an Amazonian who are supposed to be the more australoid.

let’s make a IQ test, and let’s see. And report me, do what you want I am so scared (sarcasm). I wanted a more complete and factual and less controversial article. If you make an argument immediately you send a link. Mongolians have C2 haplogroup, if this is truth then natives were triracial that makes sense, but it also means Mongolians also were mixed with people from India most probably. It’s really difficult to know this, still the majority of natives are mostly mongoloids mixed, this topic about natives is extensive and the major part was of two parts if the third part appeared it makes sense.