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MustafaTekin
12-03-2019, 12:45 AM
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She's from Erzurum (eastern Anatolia).
Tooting Carmen
12-03-2019, 12:46 AM
She looks like Penelope Cruz's long-lost sister.
MustafaTekin
12-03-2019, 12:53 AM
She also resembles Celestialsayer
Marmara
12-03-2019, 12:53 AM
Kurdish look.
MustafaTekin
12-03-2019, 12:56 AM
I've seen turkish girls like her from Posof(ardahan).
Marmara
12-03-2019, 01:00 AM
I've seen turkish girls like her from Posof(ardahan).
Ethnic Turks don't live that far east, anyone from there has different ancestry.
MustafaTekin
12-03-2019, 01:03 AM
Ethnic Turks don't live that far east, anyone from there has different ancestry.
Ardahan is like 50% turkish. the district Posof is 95% ahiska turk(meskhetian)
Marmara
12-03-2019, 01:06 AM
Ardahan is like 50% turkish. the district Posof is 95% ahiska turk(meskhetian)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299313-Meskhetian(Ah%26%23305%3Bska)-Turk-MyHeritage-Gedmatch-results-from-Ardahan
Meskhetians are a small group of people who carry no Turkic admixture.
Hurrem sultana
12-03-2019, 01:10 AM
looks like penelope cruz
Zroota
12-03-2019, 02:13 AM
Cappadocian Med. Fits in Iran and will have no problem passing in Lebanon as well.
Ethnic Turks don't live that far east, anyone from there has different ancestry.
Why can't she be an ethnic Turk? Because of her hooked nose? Besides, Kurds will think she is "Semitic" anyway and will throw her on us. :rolleyes:
Now I'm not the most educated about the demographics of Turkey, but I'm pretty sure ethnic Turks will be found in the east, even if they are in high numbers in the west or centre (or wherever most ethnic Turks are found in). Who are ethnic Turks anyway? Can you provide photos of them or give me Turkish celeb examples? And aren't all Turks mixed to some degree anyway? Such as those in the west will be more Balkan and those in the northeast will be more Caucasus (Circassian)? And I have heard that some have Armenian, Iranian and Kurdish roots as well. Enlighten me. I'm curious to know actually.
Don't know, but Turks in these boards seem to easily assimilate 'lighter', Circassian or Balkan Turks as "ethnic Turks", but when it comes to the 'darker' Kurdish, Iranian or Arab Turks they'll disregard them and be like "that's not a Turk omg".
Marmara
12-03-2019, 02:30 AM
Cappadocian Med. Fits in Iran and will have no problem passing in Lebanon as well.
Why can't she be an ethnic Turk? Because of her hooked nose? Besides, Kurds will think she is "Semitic" anyway and will throw her on us. :rolleyes:
Now I'm not the most educated about the demographics of Turkey, but I'm pretty sure ethnic Turks will be found in the east, even if they are in high numbers in the west or centre (or wherever most ethnic Turks are found in). Who are ethnic Turks anyway? Can you provide photos of them or give me Turkish celeb examples? And aren't all Turks mixed to some degree anyway? Such as those in the west will be more Balkan and those in the northeast will be more Caucasus (Circassian)? And I have heard that some have Armenian, Iranian and Kurdish roots as well. Enlighten me. I'm curious to know actually.
Don't know, but Turks in these boards seem to easily assimilate 'lighter', Circassian or Balkan Turks as "ethnic Turks", but when it comes to the 'darker' Kurdish, Iranian or Arab Turks they'll disregard them and be like "that's not a Turk omg".
Balkan Turks are already ethnic Turks, and no, other ethnic Balkaners (Bosniak, Albanian etc.) and Caucasians (Circassian, Georgian etc.) are not ethnic Turks, as well as Kurds, Arabs or Iranians.
In East of Sivas province ethnic Turks fall into minority and in many Eastern provinces ethnic Turks are non-existant or has neglicible population.
asuvis
12-03-2019, 02:35 AM
Ethnic Turks don't live that far east, anyone from there has different ancestry.
Yes, they are Laz Georgians.
Kivan
12-03-2019, 02:46 AM
Balkan Turks are already ethnic Turks, and no, other ethnic Balkaners (Bosniak, Albanian etc.) and Caucasians (Circassian, Georgian etc.) are not ethnic Turks, as well as Kurds, Arabs or Iranians.
In East of Sivas province ethnic Turks fall into minority and in many Eastern provinces ethnic Turks are non-existant or has neglicible population.
This self-hating Arab is hilarious.
Every thread about Turks/Turkey here he starts to spit his trolling shit. Funny he likes to make such ironic comments but if you look at his posts, he hate to be grouped with their semitic brothers and at the same time try to pass Levantines/Mesopotamians as "Southern European wogs". Pretty funny. xD
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Cappadocian Med. Fits in Iran and will have no problem passing in Lebanon as well.
Why can't she be an ethnic Turk? Because of her hooked nose? Besides, Kurds will think she is "Semitic" anyway and will throw her on us. :rolleyes:
Now I'm not the most educated about the demographics of Turkey, but I'm pretty sure ethnic Turks will be found in the east, even if they are in high numbers in the west or centre (or wherever most ethnic Turks are found in). Who are ethnic Turks anyway? Can you provide photos of them or give me Turkish celeb examples? And aren't all Turks mixed to some degree anyway? Such as those in the west will be more Balkan and those in the northeast will be more Caucasus (Circassian)? And I have heard that some have Armenian, Iranian and Kurdish roots as well. Enlighten me. I'm curious to know actually.
Don't know, but Turks in these boards seem to easily assimilate 'lighter', Circassian or Balkan Turks as "ethnic Turks", but when it comes to the 'darker' Kurdish, Iranian or Arab Turks they'll disregard them and be like "that's not a Turk omg".
Turks are only those whom Turkish TA racial doctors considered Turks. If Kivan say she's Kurds so she's Kurd and it doesn't matter who she thinks she is.
FinalFlash
12-03-2019, 03:00 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299313-Meskhetian(Ah%26%23305%3Bska)-Turk-MyHeritage-Gedmatch-results-from-Ardahan
Meskhetians are a small group of people who carry no Turkic admixture.
Meskhetians are Turkified Kartvelians and are similar to Kakhetians and Laz
FinalFlash
12-03-2019, 03:03 AM
Cappadocian Med. Fits in Iran and will have no problem passing in Lebanon as well.
Why can't she be an ethnic Turk? Because of her hooked nose? Besides, Kurds will think she is "Semitic" anyway and will throw her on us. :rolleyes:
Now I'm not the most educated about the demographics of Turkey, but I'm pretty sure ethnic Turks will be found in the east, even if they are in high numbers in the west or centre (or wherever most ethnic Turks are found in). Who are ethnic Turks anyway? Can you provide photos of them or give me Turkish celeb examples? And aren't all Turks mixed to some degree anyway? Such as those in the west will be more Balkan and those in the northeast will be more Caucasus (Circassian)? And I have heard that some have Armenian, Iranian and Kurdish roots as well. Enlighten me. I'm curious to know actually.
Don't know, but Turks in these boards seem to easily assimilate 'lighter', Circassian or Balkan Turks as "ethnic Turks", but when it comes to the 'darker' Kurdish, Iranian or Arab Turks they'll disregard them and be like "that's not a Turk omg".
Euro_k15(c('Turk_East'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turk_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "4.2229"
[3,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "6.2623"
[4,] "Georgian_Laz" "6.5818"
[5,] "Greek_Trabzon" "7.0589"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "7.3631"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.1706"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.5312"
[9,] "Kurd" "9.7802"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "10.1688"
[11,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "11.9217"
[12,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.3385"
[13,] "Georgian_Jewish" "12.6936"
[14,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.5573"
[15,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "14.5604"
[16,] "Assyrian" "14.9338"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "15.1543"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "15.3816"
[19,] "Georgian" "17.8209"
[20,] "Turkish_Aydin" "20.0228"
> Euro_k15(c('Turkish_Trabzon'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "0"
[2,] "Georgian_Laz" "4.3274"
[3,] "Turk_East" "6.2623"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "6.4311"
[5,] "Armenian_East" "7.1033"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "8.5406"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.5779"
[8,] "Kurd" "13.4742"
[9,] "Kurd_Armenia" "14.5119"
[10,] "Georgian_Jewish" "14.5516"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "15.7829"
[12,] "Assyrian" "16.0274"
[13,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "16.3675"
[14,] "Iranian_Lur" "16.835"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "17.9229"
[16,] "Georgian" "18.3526"
[17,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "19.4573"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "19.8745"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "20.2799"
[20,] "Abhkasian" "21.4062"
The Turk_East reference is an average I've compiled of Turks from Karin(Erzurum). Hope this answers your question.
Many Anatolian Turks look south eastern European to me and she pass as one that's my humble opinion.
Passes as Maltese or Calabrian.
FinalFlash
12-03-2019, 03:09 AM
Many Anatolian Turks look south eastern European to me and she pass as one that's my humble opinion.
Passes as Maltese or Calabrian.
Put the crackpipe down Rey lol
Reis-i Cumhur
12-03-2019, 04:17 AM
Armeno-Kurmanji mix.
Armenoid+Med
Yeah she has nothing to do with Turan so she is not ethnic turk just turkified
Corded
12-03-2019, 06:20 AM
east-med
Zroota
12-04-2019, 06:49 AM
This self-hating Arab is hilarious.
Every thread about Turks/Turkey here he starts to spit his trolling shit. Funny he likes to make such ironic comments but if you look at his posts, he hate to be grouped with their semitic brothers and at the same time try to pass Levantines/Mesopotamians as "Southern European wogs". Pretty funny. xD
Thank you for being obsessed with me, pedophile worshipper. Took you hours to find my posts I bet. :cool:
That North Italian looked like an Arab and everyone in the thread agreed with this. But it was convenient of you to not include his photo and what others said. :picard2:
Not sure if you're stupid or pretending to be one, but the second post of mine was about climates. If you're weren't so ignorant, coastal Levant is Mediterranean when it comes to its climate. Nobody was talking about race here (except the part where I said Saudis will be darker in correlation to the climate). Please learn about climatology.
But this is all rich coming from someone whose blood pressure rises when Turks are called MENA (Turkey is in MENA in many atlases and books, just saying). And you know I'm not the only one who noticed this. We're sick of your bullshit. Everyone knows you get butthurt when people compare you to your Levantine kin, where you defensively post Arabs to showcase how dark they compared to Turks. It's getting annoying and laughable, but carry on. We are entertained by your bullshit.
Now go enjoy listening to your white European singers and idols (Lmao at your avatars, always white/European Christian musicians, heroes, etc). What a boot licker. Allah will not be proud, infidel.
Euro_k15(c('Turk_East'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turk_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "4.2229"
[3,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "6.2623"
[4,] "Georgian_Laz" "6.5818"
[5,] "Greek_Trabzon" "7.0589"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "7.3631"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.1706"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.5312"
[9,] "Kurd" "9.7802"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "10.1688"
[11,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "11.9217"
[12,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.3385"
[13,] "Georgian_Jewish" "12.6936"
[14,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.5573"
[15,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "14.5604"
[16,] "Assyrian" "14.9338"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "15.1543"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "15.3816"
[19,] "Georgian" "17.8209"
[20,] "Turkish_Aydin" "20.0228"
> Euro_k15(c('Turkish_Trabzon'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "0"
[2,] "Georgian_Laz" "4.3274"
[3,] "Turk_East" "6.2623"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "6.4311"
[5,] "Armenian_East" "7.1033"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "8.5406"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.5779"
[8,] "Kurd" "13.4742"
[9,] "Kurd_Armenia" "14.5119"
[10,] "Georgian_Jewish" "14.5516"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "15.7829"
[12,] "Assyrian" "16.0274"
[13,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "16.3675"
[14,] "Iranian_Lur" "16.835"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "17.9229"
[16,] "Georgian" "18.3526"
[17,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "19.4573"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "19.8745"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "20.2799"
[20,] "Abhkasian" "21.4062"
The Turk_East reference is an average I've compiled of Turks from Karin(Erzurum). Hope this answers your question.
This list must be Kivan's worst nightmare. No white/Europeans whatsoever. Most consist of 'dark', purely West Asiatic peoples (such as Armenians, Iranians, Azeris and Assyrians). Self-hatred is a bitch. Lol.
Thanks man.
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 07:10 AM
Thank you for being obsessed with me, pedophile worshipper. Took you hours to find my posts I bet. :cool:
That North Italian looked like an Arab and everyone in the thread agreed with this. But it was convenient of you to not include his photo and what others said. :picard2:
Not sure if you're stupid or pretending to be one, but the second post of mine was about climates. If you're weren't so ignorant, coastal Levant is Mediterranean when it comes to its climate. Nobody was talking about race here (except the part where I said Saudis will be darker in correlation to the climate). Please learn about climatology.
But this is all rich coming from someone whose blood pressure rises when Turks are called MENA (Turkey is in MENA in many atlases and books, just saying). And you know I'm not the only one who noticed this. We're sick of your bullshit. Everyone knows you get butthurt when people compare you to your Levantine kin, where you defensively post Arabs to showcase how dark they compared to Turks. It's getting annoying and laughable, but carry on. We are entertained by your bullshit.
Now go enjoy listening to your white European singers and idols (Lmao at your avatars, always white/European Christian musicians, heroes, etc). What a boot licker. Allah will not be proud, infidel.
This list must be Kivan's worst nightmare. No white/Europeans whatsoever. Most consist of 'dark', purely West Asiatic peoples (such as Armenians, Iranians, Azeris and Assyrians). Self-hatred is a bitch. Lol.
Thanks man.
Lol. To be fair to Kivan, even Eastern/Black Sea Turks are visibly far from typical middle eastern groups.
Zroota
12-04-2019, 07:20 AM
Lol. To be fair to Kivan, even Eastern/Black Sea Turks are visibly far from typical middle eastern groups.
No, I know of course.
But seriously man, from what I gathered, he actually thinks all ethnic Turks are quasi-European and would plot closer to Greeks, Slavs and whatnot. And that they all look southern European, including the ethnic Turks from the southeast, who would naturally resemble us more. He gets riled up when somebody says "this Turk looks Levantine/Assyrian/Kurdish/etc", when they actually do so, the some of them. And that's why he's been so butthurt towards me. For merely saying some Turks looks more like us (you know, West Asians, where he's from as well) than they look like Greeks, Slavs or Italians.
It's classic OWD. And of course, if you have these symptoms you'll project (as he did where he screencapped my posts and failed hard to prove his point with his nice strawmans Lmao)...
P.S. I understand Cristiano Veijo for getting disgruntled when people darkwash or troll Spaniards to make them MENA. But this dude has no rational motive or purpose in his 'mission' since most Turks are, let's face it, West Asian or non-European. *sigh*
Marmara
12-04-2019, 07:23 AM
Turanid Turks are obviously ethnic Turks, but many people don't understand the turanid phenotype. I bet even she would be called Turanid by some.
Pater Patota
12-04-2019, 07:27 AM
I don't have Lebanese and S.Italian root but people on the other anthro forum they all classified me as Italian and few people classified me as Greek and and Lebanese.Lol.
Btw, I'm mostly from Eastern Anatolia(Armenian, Zaza Kurd and also have distant relatives from Greece, Bosnia, Bulgaria and Albania.Therefore, my complexion is white/fair skinned but my brother, father and younger uncle look kind of exotic, typical West Asian type.
Ethnic Turks don't live that far east, anyone from there has different ancestry.
Azeris?
Marmara
12-04-2019, 07:35 AM
Azeris?
They are exception.
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 07:36 AM
I don't have Lebanese and S.Italian root but people on the other anthro forum they all classified me as Italian and few people classified me as Greek and and Lebanese.Lol.
Btw, I'm mostly from Eastern Anatolia(Armenian, Zaza Kurd and also have distant relatives from Greece, Bosnia, Bulgaria and Albania.Therefore, my complexion is white/fair skinned but my brother, father and younger uncle look kind of exotic, typical West Asian type.
Correction: the Armenian Highlands. "Eastern Anatolia" doesn't exist.
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 07:39 AM
No, I know of course.
But seriously man, from what I gathered, he actually thinks all ethnic Turks are quasi-European and would plot closer to Greeks, Slavs and whatnot. And that they all look southern European, including the ethnic Turks from the southeast, who would naturally resemble us more. He gets riled up when somebody says "this Turk looks Levantine/Assyrian/Kurdish/etc", when they actually do so, the some of them. And that's why he's been so butthurt towards me. For merely saying some Turks looks more like us (you know, West Asians, where he's from as well) than they look like Greeks, Slavs or Italians.
It's classic OWD. And of course, if you have these symptoms you'll project (as he did where he screencapped my posts and failed hard to prove his point with his nice strawmans Lmao)...
P.S. I understand Cristiano Veijo for getting disgruntled when people darkwash or troll Spaniards to make them MENA. But this dude has no rational motive or purpose in his 'mission' since most Turks are, let's face it, West Asian or non-European. *sigh*
I think Kivan goes over the top sometimes, you're right. While they are closer to West Asian populations than to any Euros on average, they're still different enough to West Asians, especially semitic-speakers to warrant a different category for themselves. It's just that his tact simply needs work when trying to prove a point.
They are exception.
Are there any results from these regions between Sivas and Kars?
Euro_k15(c('Turk_East'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turk_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "4.2229"
[3,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "6.2623"
[4,] "Georgian_Laz" "6.5818"
[5,] "Greek_Trabzon" "7.0589"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "7.3631"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.1706"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.5312"
[9,] "Kurd" "9.7802"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "10.1688"
[11,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "11.9217"
[12,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.3385"
[13,] "Georgian_Jewish" "12.6936"
[14,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.5573"
[15,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "14.5604"
[16,] "Assyrian" "14.9338"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "15.1543"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "15.3816"
[19,] "Georgian" "17.8209"
[20,] "Turkish_Aydin" "20.0228"
> Euro_k15(c('Turkish_Trabzon'),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "0"
[2,] "Georgian_Laz" "4.3274"
[3,] "Turk_East" "6.2623"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "6.4311"
[5,] "Armenian_East" "7.1033"
[6,] "Armenian_West" "8.5406"
[7,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "8.5779"
[8,] "Kurd" "13.4742"
[9,] "Kurd_Armenia" "14.5119"
[10,] "Georgian_Jewish" "14.5516"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "15.7829"
[12,] "Assyrian" "16.0274"
[13,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "16.3675"
[14,] "Iranian_Lur" "16.835"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "17.9229"
[16,] "Georgian" "18.3526"
[17,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "19.4573"
[18,] "Turkish_Adana" "19.8745"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "20.2799"
[20,] "Abhkasian" "21.4062"
The Turk_East reference is an average I've compiled of Turks from Karin(Erzurum). Hope this answers your question.
Could you post the averages as well? (for Turk_East)
Marmara
12-04-2019, 07:55 AM
Are there any results from these regions between Sivas and Kars?
Azerbaijanis live at the Armenian border of Turkey, they are Jafari Shias and they score substantial Turkic admixture (unlike those from Azerbaijan)
A nationalist politician of Azeri origin
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTFZvX9lWTLCiUIHnjytEIsuaK0ehv yZsPnIsdQdpjhlgYmQ--g
Their population is low, mainly consantrated in Iğdır and Kars, however many of the "Turks" of Kars are Turkified Caucasians scoring 0% Turkic and have different looks.
Nazarene
12-04-2019, 08:00 AM
Looks Kurd, can pass as Assyrian
[QUOTE=Marmara;6373905]Azerbaijanis live at the Armenian border of Turkey, they are Jafari Shias and they score substantial Turkic admixture (unlike those from Azerbaijan)
[/QUOTE
6-12% is consistant with other Azerbaijanis (from Azerbaijan and Iran)
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 08:05 AM
Could you post the averages as well? (for Turk_East)
Once I get on my computer I will. I'm gonna ask ph2ter to make a PCA chart of West Asia too, including the Caucasus region.
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 08:06 AM
Azerbaijanis live at the Armenian border of Turkey, they are Jafari Shias and they score substantial Turkic admixture (unlike those from Azerbaijan)
A nationalist politician of Azeri origin
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTFZvX9lWTLCiUIHnjytEIsuaK0ehv yZsPnIsdQdpjhlgYmQ--g
Their population is low, mainly consantrated in Iğdır and Kars, however many of the "Turks" of Kars are Turkified Caucasians scoring 0% Turkic and have different looks.
An Ottoman plant is what he is really.
Marmara
12-04-2019, 08:50 AM
An Ottoman plant is what he is really.
Azerbaijanis have nothing to do with Ottomans, in fact they were seen as enemy.
FinalFlash
12-04-2019, 08:57 AM
Azerbaijanis have nothing to do with Ottomans, in fact they were seen as enemy.
Their mere presence in modern-day Eastern Turkey suggests otherwise.
Kivan
12-04-2019, 08:59 AM
...
Marmara
12-04-2019, 08:59 AM
Their mere presence in modern-day Eastern Turkey suggests otherwise.
Ottoman Empire conquered Eastern Turkey from Safavids, and Azerbaijanis were already present there back then.
Their mere presence in modern-day Eastern Turkey suggests otherwise.
Azerbaijanis were Safavids and fought off the Ottoman Empire successfully. They are not very numerous in Turkey as Marmara mentioned. Most settled during Safavid reign over Eastern Anatolia.
archangel
12-04-2019, 09:28 AM
She looks İberian
itilvolga
12-04-2019, 09:47 AM
Azerbaijanis live at the Armenian border of Turkey, they are Jafari Shias and they score substantial Turkic admixture (unlike those from Azerbaijan)
A nationalist politician of Azeri origin
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTFZvX9lWTLCiUIHnjytEIsuaK0ehv yZsPnIsdQdpjhlgYmQ--g
Their population is low, mainly consantrated in Iğdır and Kars, however many of the "Turks" of Kars are Turkified Caucasians scoring 0% Turkic and have different looks.
Because many of them are Terekeme which means Azerbaijani Turkmen and they are Sunni Muslims. Those Jafari ones are called as Borçalı and less Turkic genetically.
MustafaTekin
12-04-2019, 10:05 AM
Bendeki su gavur avrat duskunlugu olmasa dogu anadolu'da harem kurup bolgeyi türklestirmek vardi ya neyse kim ugrasacak. zaten belli yasi geçtikten sonra cogu çirkinlesiyor (istisnalar hariç). koca burun, kivircik saç, potlek goz gibi hosuma gitmeyen fiziksel ozellikleri de cabasi.
çin'de milyonlarca uygur hapisteymis haberleri ortalikta dolaniyor. hokumette biraz akil olsa çin'le anlasma yapip birkaç milyonunu buraya iskan ederdi. tabii suriyeli kadar degerleri yok uygurlarin..
Marmara
12-04-2019, 10:07 AM
Bendeki su gavur avrat duskunlugu olmasa dogu anadolu'da harem kurup bolgeyi türklestirmek vardi ya neyse kim ugrasacak. zaten belli yasi geçtikten sonra cogu çirkinlesiyor (istisnalar hariç). koca burun, kivircik saç, potlek goz gibi hosuma gitmeyen fiziksel ozellikleri de cabasi.
çin'de milyonlarca uygur hapisteymis haberleri ortalikta dolaniyor. hokumette biraz akil olsa çin'le anlasma yapip birkaç milyonunu buraya iskan ederdi. tabii suriyeli kadar degerleri yok uygurlarin..
Hasta mısın neden iskan ettiriyorsun milleti.
MustafaTekin
12-04-2019, 10:16 AM
Hasta mısın neden iskan ettiriyorsun milleti.
çin'de telef olacaklarina turkiye'de bi ise yarasinlar.
Marmara
12-04-2019, 10:26 AM
çin'de telef olacaklarina turkiye'de bi ise yarasinlar.
Memleketini terketmek senin için bu kadar kolay olabilir ama herkes için değil. Ayrıca bizim derdimiz bize yeter.
MustafaTekin
12-04-2019, 10:29 AM
Memleketini terketmek senin için bu kadar kolay olabilir ama herkes için değil. Ayrıca bizim derdimiz bize yeter.
Ben turkiye'de dogmadim. Terk etme diye bisey yok.
Because many of them are Terekeme which means Azerbaijani “Turkmen” and they are Sunni Muslims. Those Jafari ones are called as Borçalı and less Turkic genetically.
They are a minority. Azerbaijanis from Eastern Turkey are not that different from regular ones.
archangel
12-04-2019, 10:55 AM
İ dont know why a shitstorm appeared in this thread....
mutabor
12-04-2019, 12:46 PM
She looks very Georgian.
Nazarene
12-04-2019, 01:33 PM
I'm obsessed with Assyrians!
Thank you for bringing attention to our cause.
It already became a joke in a Discord group. :laugh:
And you are the whole circus Kivan! Proves what a pussy you are.
Nazarene, Armenians and some people hate Turks. The rest don't give a fuck about what you speak.
xD
Levantines in Turkey are seen as niggers, most Turks hate refugees coming from there and want their deportation as soon as possible.
Ok OWD nazi wannabe, how's Brazil?
It's the last time i reply you. Better you don't quote anymore, just saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szCDKvAeobA
Negah
12-04-2019, 01:35 PM
She looks very Georgian.
not really
mutabor
12-04-2019, 01:41 PM
not really
You sure? What if a Georgian approves that she looks Georgian? Eh?
Georgian journalist Tina Kandelaki ( on the first photo)
http://www.spletnik.ru/img/2019/06/elizaveta/20190614-tinapost.jpghttps://i1.imgiz.com/rshots/8881/yaprak-sayar-sensiz-gecen-her-gun-gecelerden-de-siyahtir_8881237-78120_1920x1080.jpg
Cumansky
12-04-2019, 01:46 PM
Beautiful, good enough to date if she like North Turks
Rgvgjhvv
12-04-2019, 01:47 PM
Good thread.
MustafaTekin
12-04-2019, 01:49 PM
Good thread.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/9RUq0WWIytqCI/giphy.gif
Nazarene
12-04-2019, 01:50 PM
I'm a lil bitch :cry
https://i.postimg.cc/Hsf5xqDy/kivan4.png
xD
https://i.postimg.cc/WzDMhj5Q/reportmenigga.png
HAAHAHHA DO IT COCKROACH! O STAVROS NIKA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDl3gAJpm_4
Nazarene
12-04-2019, 02:02 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/hPdRF5Lj/deusvult.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMM9ZuRkKs
Dorian
12-04-2019, 02:07 PM
You know there's something wrong when even a little hooked nose gets rejected as a kurd ,dem hattians wuz french atlantomedz.
Kamal900
12-04-2019, 02:15 PM
You know there's something wrong when even a little hooked nose gets rejected as a kurd ,dem hattians wuz french atlantomedz.
Remember, Turks are very White and Southern European looking and not at all west asians like Kurds, Armenians, Persians and god forbid, Arabs.
Hapanuwa
12-04-2019, 02:25 PM
My first guess was that this lady is Kurdish too, even though I have no agenda to portray Turks looking like whatever. I know and have seen many Kurdish people and I have observed that this lady's phenotype is common in Turkey's Kurdish population. Especially in the second and third picture that is. If she'd say that she's an ethnic Turk, I would expect some Kurdish/Arab ancestry automatically.
In the 3rd picture she actually looks a bit like farah from the newest call of duty, which also is more portrayed as near- eastern/(kinda) Kurdish.
Marmara
12-04-2019, 02:32 PM
My first guess was that this lady is Kurdish too, even though I have no agenda to portray Turks looking like whatever. I know and have seen many Kurdish people and I have observed that this lady's phenotype is common in Turkey's Kurdish population. Especially in the second and third picture that is. If she'd say that she's an ethnic Turk, I would expect some Kurdish/Arab ancestry automatically.
In the 3rd picture she actually looks a bit like farah from the newest call of duty, which also is more portrayed as near- eastern/(kinda) Kurdish.
She does look Kurdish, her face is even stereotypical for a Kurd. People commenting here are clueless.
itilvolga
12-04-2019, 02:32 PM
They are a minority. Azerbaijanis from Eastern Turkey are not that different from regular ones.
Minority in NE of Turkey among Jafaris? Do you have any resource about it?
lonewolfcypriot
12-04-2019, 02:33 PM
She does look Kurdish, her face is even stereotypical for a Kurd. People commenting here are clueless.
mamamamamamamamamamarmara
MustafaTekin
12-04-2019, 02:40 PM
I think marmara is a kurd.
Nazarene
12-04-2019, 03:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T58tRXzjC7c
Negah
12-04-2019, 03:25 PM
You sure? What if a Georgian approves that she looks Georgian? Eh?
who is the Georgian that approved it? She can pass but Georgian is not the first thing that comes to mind.
Minority in NE of Turkey among Jafaris? Do you have any resource about it?
I'm talking about Azerbaijanis in Kars & Iğdır. I have seen the Gedmatch results. Typical Azerbaijani results with a little Anatolian shift. From what I've seen Qarapapaqlar results are different from them.
crunchy
12-04-2019, 06:45 PM
armenoid+alpine
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