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Anaximander
03-25-2020, 10:49 PM
Post Here Ionian Islanders

This thred is dedicated to them.

Lakis Komninos, actor, origin from Kefallonia

https://i.imgur.com/dzndedl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NagaRn5.jpg

Charis Mavrias , Zante

https://i.imgur.com/C6UIlA4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OKn2c16.jpg

Stavros Kontonis, Zante.

https://i.imgur.com/eaKGUWk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/s7Y1v8t.jpg

Feal free to post any Ionian Islander u find. Their population is about 200 thousands so, they are a relatively small Group in Greece.

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 10:53 PM
Feal free to post any Ionian Islander u find. Their population is about 200 thousands so, they are a relatively small Group in Greece.

But there are at least another 200-400 thousands living in Athens and southern mainland. Especially in Elia, in amaliada area 10% of surnames are from Ionian islands, and even more in patras and nafpaktos

My impression is that at least 500-700 thousands of Greeks have partially, fully or deep Ionian islander ancestry

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 10:55 PM
But there are at least another 200-400 thousands living in Athens and southern mainland. Especially in Elia, in amaliada area 10% of surnames are from Ionian islands, and even more in patras and nafpaktos

They look good , dont u find???
A villager from my village has married a woman from Lefkada, and she is so beautifull.

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:01 PM
I will start with historical figures from my (maternal) island, Zakynthos (Zante)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/%CE%9C%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%84%CE%B6%CE%AC%CE%BD.jpg
https://cdn.sansimera.gr/media/photos/main/lg/Dionysios_Solomos.jpg

Samnium
03-25-2020, 11:02 PM
Apparently in Ionian Islands there have been (some) Italian "influence", from Southern Italy notably but I believe maybe Veneto more back in time.

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:02 PM
They look good , dont u find???
A villager from my village has married a woman from Lefkada, and she is so beautifull.

They(we) are:amour101::cool:

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:04 PM
Apparently in Ionian Islands there have been (some) Italian "influence", from Southern Italy notably but I believe maybe Veneto back in time.

Not only Ionian islands had Italian influence. Most of Aegean islands, Crete and Peloponnese (south mainland) had some too, I would say even many parts of Central Greece as well

But certainly neither of them as much as Ionian islands

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:05 PM
Angela Gerekou, Corfu

https://i.imgur.com/SY8k7aN.jpg

Gaios Skordilis, Corfu

https://i.imgur.com/paSdT9Z.jpg

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:08 PM
from Corfu:

Kappodistrias:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Kapodistrias2.jpg/220px-Kapodistrias2.jpg
Antreas Metaxas (from kefalonia)
https://cdn.sansimera.gr/media/photos/main/lg/Andreas_Metaxas.jpg

Samnium
03-25-2020, 11:10 PM
Not only Ionian islands had Italian influence. Most of Aegean islands, Crete and Peloponnese (south mainland) had some too, I would say even many parts of Central Greece as well

But certainly neither of them as much as Ionian islands

Yeah I heard about Calabrians or Sicilians emigrating here.

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:10 PM
They are Greeks though they are not Italians.

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:15 PM
They are Greeks though they are not Italians.

There is possibly more admixture from Italy in Cyclades (and according to a friend of me in gastouni in Peloponnese) than Ionian islands, at least if we judge by surnames

Marmara
03-25-2020, 11:16 PM
They are Greeks though they are not Italians.

Are you sure they're white enough to be Greeks?

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:19 PM
https://i1.prth.gr/images/963x541/files/2019-02-26/Sakis_Rouvas.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/3b/48/733b480de5ff72f40d54258beef9731c.jpg

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:20 PM
There is possibly more admixture from Italy in Cyclades (and according to a friend of me in gastouni in Peloponnese) than Ionian islands, at least if we judge by surnames

Most of the personalities i have posted are norid +nordo-mediteraneans, according to some in here(Bestworld), norid Phenotype is associated with Slavic people.....Lol!!!!

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:24 PM
Most of the personalities i have posted are norid +nordo-mediteraneans, according to some in here(Bestworld), norid Phenotype is associated with Slavic people.....Lol!!!!

well, Slavs reached even Crete, They obviously passed from the ionian islands

https://i.imgur.com/Q6PEwJK.jpg

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:28 PM
well, Slavs reached even Crete, They obviously passed from the ionian islands

https://i.imgur.com/Q6PEwJK.jpg

Slavs in Crete, hahaahahahahah

That is the best joke!!
The slavs were a land based people, they havent been recorded being naval in medieval times. No Slav ever set foot in Greece, apart from some places in Macedonia and Thrace....

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:42 PM
Are you sure they're white enough to be Greeks?

They are Dorian Aryans Hellenes, exactly like us in the Mainland , namely, Epirotes, Aetolians,Acarnanians, Thessalians and some Macedonians. :cool:

Ion Basescul
03-25-2020, 11:43 PM
Post Here Ionian Islanders

This thred is dedicated to them.

Lakis Komninos, actor, origin from Kefallonia

https://i.imgur.com/dzndedl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NagaRn5.jpg

Charis Mavrias , Zante

https://i.imgur.com/C6UIlA4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OKn2c16.jpg

Stavros Kontonis, Zante.

https://i.imgur.com/eaKGUWk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/s7Y1v8t.jpg

Feal free to post any Ionian Islander u find. Their population is about 200 thousands so, they are a relatively small Group in Greece.

So all of them are basically either blue eyed or light brown and blonde, but autosomally score as Southern as Sicilians and Jews? Interesting

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:44 PM
So all of them are basically either blue eyed or blonde, but autosomally score as Southern as Sicilians and Jews? Interesting

they don't score as sicilians and Jews. That's common in Dodecanese Islands, plus Jews are blonde

Ionian islands results that I have seen are close to Southern mainland, which is genetically like central Italy

Ion Basescul
03-25-2020, 11:46 PM
they don't score as sicilians and Jews. That's common in Dodecanese Islands

Then I must have mistaken them for Cretans. Do we have Ionian autosomal data?

Anaximander
03-25-2020, 11:50 PM
So all of them are basically either blue eyed or light brown and blonde, but autosomally score as Southern as Sicilians and Jews? Interesting

I suspect light will be more common than mena types there. Their closest population will be Aetolia-Acarnania and Pelloponesians.....


they don't score as sicilians and Jews. That's common in Dodecanese Islands, plus Jews are blonde

Ionian islands results that I have seen are close to Southern mainland, which is genetically like central Italy

My village in Epirus, we have many Norics and phenotypes like these.

brennus dux gallorum
03-25-2020, 11:54 PM
Then I must have mistaken them for Cretans. Do we have Ionian autosomal data?
Sikeliot had posted a few

Ion Basescul
03-25-2020, 11:54 PM
I suspect light will be more common than mena types there. Their closest population will be Aetolia-Acarnania and Pelloponesians.....



My village in Epirus, we have many Norics and phenotypes like these.

I'd say Ashkenazi Jews on average are lighter than a lot of Southeast Europeans, despite scoring heavily in MENA admixture. That's probably because they interbred a lot within their own communities. That might be the case here too, as it's probably hard to get any outside influence on a small island.

Tauromachos
03-25-2020, 11:56 PM
Slavs in Crete, hahaahahahahah

+1



That is the best joke!!


:thumb001:

Tauromachos
03-25-2020, 11:59 PM
So all of them are basically either blue eyed or light brown and blonde, but autosomally score as Southern as Sicilians and Jews? Interesting

Not all of Ionian Islanders are blue eyed and blonde just the ones Anaxhimmler chooses to post

Ion Basescul
03-26-2020, 12:00 AM
Not all of Ionian Islanders are blue eyed and blonde just the ones Anaxhimmler chooses to post

I know, I've been to Greece, but let's just play along and see where this gets us.

brennus dux gallorum
03-26-2020, 12:01 AM
I know, I've been to Greece, but let's just play along and see where this gets us.

which part of Greece?

Tauromachos
03-26-2020, 12:03 AM
I know, I've been to Greece, but let's just play along and see where this gets us.

Wow i got a thumb down once again

Anaximander
03-26-2020, 12:03 AM
Not all of Ionian Islanders are blue eyed and blonde just the ones Anaxhimmler chooses to post

Thats all the Ionian personalities i know. Can u post other, who are darker?? I f u can u are welcome.

Ion Basescul
03-26-2020, 12:05 AM
which part of Greece?

Thessaloniki

Tauromachos
03-26-2020, 12:08 AM
Thats all the Ionian personalities i know. Can u post other, who are darker?? I f u can u are welcome.

Ok fair enough

Yeah i did a classification thread about a Greek singer from Ionian Islands have to look and then i post her

In the meantime take a look here for example(Students from Kefalonia)
https://kefalonitis.com/news/item/28481-kefalonites-foitites-oi-epityxontes-sto-kefalonitis-meros-2o.html

Girl from Kefalonia
https://kefalonitis.com/images/gallery_arthra/pan_2014_eks_11.jpg
(https://kefalonitis.com/news/item/28481-kefalonites-foitites-oi-epityxontes-sto-kefalonitis-meros-2o.html)

brennus dux gallorum
03-26-2020, 12:08 AM
Lorentzos Mavilis, Spanish-born Ionian islander

https://cdn.sansimera.gr/media/photos/main/lg/Lorentzos_Mavilis.jpg

Anaximander
03-26-2020, 12:09 AM
I know, I've been to Greece, but let's just play along and see where this gets us.

What i mean is they are closer to Northwestern Greeks, like myself from Epirus and people from Aetolia-Acarnania, than a guy from south aegean islands, phenotypicaly. This is where it is going to get us........

brennus dux gallorum
03-26-2020, 12:09 AM
Thessaloniki

Thessaloniki is a very special case and for many reasons and from many aspects, but yes in terms of pigmentation all Greeks are nearly the same

Tauromachos
03-26-2020, 12:13 AM
Here are Kefalonian nightclubers with the possibility that foreigners and assimilated Pontic tribesmen migth be included
so maybe not most credible source but whatever

https://kefalonitis.com/

Avicenna
03-26-2020, 12:42 AM
Fun fact : Iranics call Greeks "Yunan" which is named after ionan Greeks , apparently they were the first Greeks who contacted them hence why the name stuck .

Tauromachos
03-26-2020, 12:48 AM
Fun fact : Iranics call Greeks "Yunan" which is named after ionan Greeks , apparently they were the first Greeks who contacted them hence why the name stuck .

Yes but Ionian refered rather to the tribe than to Ionian Islands

The first Ionians ,Iranians came in to contact with were probably those living in Asia Minor and around the Black Sea coast(Pontus)

brennus dux gallorum
03-26-2020, 12:52 AM
Fun fact : Iranics call Greeks "Yunan" which is named after ionan Greeks , apparently they were the first Greeks who contacted them hence why the name stuck .

It's more possible that Yunan comes from Ionia (in modern western Turkey)

Tauromachos
03-26-2020, 01:14 AM
Here is my thread with the singer https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235519-What-does-this-woman-look-like-more/page2

She is from Corfu her name is Vicky Leandros i hope you can get to the thread if you click the link

Here is one picture,perhabs its not the best

Apparently she might have done some lifting:https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music20/v4/a7/86/3a/a7863ae2-ac2c-c1bf-1909-56c34c79813a/source/1200x630sr.jpg

Rgvgjhvv
03-26-2020, 02:31 AM
It's more possible that Yunan comes from Ionia (in modern western Turkey)

And Samos and Chios

Zeno
03-26-2020, 10:44 AM
Two of my professors are from Zakynthos. One is a Dinarid and the other is a light-eyed Alpine Med. Also, one neighbour of mine is from Corfu and he's dark to medium blond with brown eyes with his phenotype being Subnordid.

And my professor (the light-eyed Alpine Med) had two classmates who were from Zakynthos and were platinum blonds naturally.

Anaximander
03-26-2020, 05:14 PM
Two of my professors are from Zakynthos. One is a Dinarid and the other is a light-eyed Alpine Med. Also, one neighbour of mine is from Corfu and he's dark to medium blond with brown eyes with his phenotype being Subnordid.

And my professor (the light-eyed Alpine Med) had two classmates who were from Zakynthos and were platinum blonds naturally.

I also have a woman in the block of flat were i live, she is from Corfu and she has blue eyes and pale skin.
Are they realy lighter than the rest of Greeks?

Renekton
03-26-2020, 06:43 PM
Ionian Greeks are the cream buile of Greek society

aherne
03-26-2020, 07:03 PM
They look exactly like Turks. No difference whatsoever, except they lack Turanid...

brennus dux gallorum
03-26-2020, 08:42 PM
They look exactly like Turks. No difference whatsoever, except they lack Turanid...

So, according to you they look armenoid, anadolid and Asian alpine instead of Mediterranean and alpine that Greeks usually look

Thanks for your contribution. Where did this look come from in your opinion? Could you enlighten us with your ideas? :D

Zeno
03-26-2020, 10:37 PM
They look exactly like Turks. No difference whatsoever, except they lack Turanid...

So predominantly Atlanto-Med/Pontid, Alpine and CM Greeks are the same as predominantly Armenoid/Anatolid/Turanid Turks? What is wrong with you?