Don’t she look very east Med?

[thenewestmember]

I think she can perfectly pass in Greece, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mediterraneanvision-song-contest/images/0/0e/Helena_Paparizou.jpg
https://wiki.phantis.com/images/7/79/Elena3.jpg

[Voskos]

She can't pass in Lebanon or Syria.

[Ion Basescul]

Turkey is basically like the US when it comes to phenotype diversity, because they have people from all over. Any kind of Euro phenotype should theoretically pass there.

[IrisSelene]

Is that Helena Paparizou?????

I always thought Greek women looked like that, so she was for a long time my idea of Greek women LOL Whenever I would see someone like that I would automatically think Greek

[IrisSelene]

Turkey is basically like the US when it comes to phenotype diversity, because they have people from all over. Any kind of Euro phenotype should theoretically pass there.

Theres people like me tho who cant xD

[thenewestmember]

She can't pass in Lebanon or Syria.

I know that some Syrians and Lebanese look like Greeks but I dont know why

[thenewestmember]

Turkey is basically like the US when it comes to phenotype diversity, because they have people from all over. Any kind of Euro phenotype should theoretically pass there.

I never saw a Turk who look north Euro or west Euro

[Voskos]

I think you have no idea how Syrians and Lebanese looks

typical lebanese:

http://glamroz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/arab-reef-girls-top-most-powerful-living-in-japan-with-164048-750x400.jpg

[thenewestmember]

Is that Helena Paparizou?????

I always thought Greek women looked like that, so she was for a long time my idea of Greek women LOL Whenever I would see someone like that I would automatically think Greek


She can't pass in Lebanon or Syria.

but I think her taxonomy is east med

[Ion Basescul]

I never saw a Turk who look north Euro or west Euro

Go to Istanbul

[Laag]

Looks just Med

[itilvolga]

I would guess her as Zaza or Kurd in Turkey, or maybe an Alevite Turk from Central/Eastern Anatolia. Not because she is exotic looking, though, she wouldn’t be alien among Turks for sure but that’s not how an average Turkish woman looks like.

Also, she reminds me of a Kurdish singer Helly Luv:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcShRUwJ2nm3heTA5xtU9CnM4MiRsW3 PdFuEdvinPjwMF0YVQkIl

[Bestworld]

Where is anaximander to tell us about mainland greeks who passing in the levant rofl

[IrisSelene]

Go to Istanbul

Are you sure there are turkish ppl who look north and western european when they all basically told me theres no one that looks like me? I would imagine even more impossible to see someone like Elle Fanning in there LOL

[Ion Basescul]

Are you sure there are turkish ppl who look north and western european when they all basically told me theres no one that looks like me? I would imagine even more impossible to see someone like Elle Fanning in there LOL

Obviously, there aren't a lot, but considering that they had people from all the Balkans migrate en masse to Turkey, mixing all of that blood produced all kinds of imaginable and unimaginable mutts. As I said, they are a melting pot.

[eatensemn]

She best passes in turkey i think. Spain and italy harder. Levant, as a tourist. Also bulgaria and romania should be posssible.


Are you sure there are turkish ppl who look north and western european when they all basically told me theres no one that looks like me? I would imagine even more impossible to see someone like Elle Fanning in there LOL
NW europeans can be recognised, but not by face. By skin. If they have thin, pinkish pale skin, which is extremely rare in turkey, it's easy to spot them. Otherwise, for example a tanned swede has no chance to get spotted by regular people. In your case, i would talk to you in turkish in a possible encounter :) Check this girl for the elle fanning vibe https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315226-Classify-amp-Pass-Turkish-blonde-from-izmir


I never saw a Turk who look north Euro or west EuroWow really? Such an incredible achievement. But if you want to start from somewhere, try one of the members. He's of yoruk (ancient turkic) descent. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311873-Classy-me-please

[Kyp]

Yep

[Kivan]

Are you sure there are turkish ppl who look north and western european when they all basically told me theres no one that looks like me? I would imagine even more impossible to see someone like Elle Fanning in there LOL

No, Turkey is not exactly like US and many Europeans (especially NE Europeans) can't pass at all.

I've never seen any Turkish woman who looked like you. But i think your facial traits look a bit like the ones of this Yoga youtuber:

https://abload.de/img/39067226_280163639429mqjdz.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

I think she can perfectly pass in Greece, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon.


1) she has alpine and dinaric influences, she hardly passes only in Turkey among the latter 3

2) Geography excluded, who told you that Greece has anything to do with eastern mediterraneans, racial types included?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Is that Helena Paparizou?????

I always thought Greek women looked like that, so she was for a long time my idea of Greek women LOL Whenever I would see someone like that I would automatically think Greek

well, not exactly. Too wide faced to be common Greek

[brennus dux gallorum]

Kivan hysteric bitch why do you always downvote people when they say a truth that you don't like?

[eatensemn]

Kivan hysteric bitch why do you always downvote people when they say a truth that you don't like?

But you should also explain that how an anatolid woman passes better in the other 3 than turkey?

[Kivan]

Truth? xD

This woman doesn't look Dinaric or Alpine at all, you delusional fool.
Most people in Turkey would assume she is Eastern. lol

Anyway, monkey, spare us from your opinions about others here, and speak only about your HellAss. No one is interested about your bullshits.

[Laag]

Go to Istanbul

How many European faces you see among these Istanbul Turks?


https://cdni.rt.com/files/news/1f/72/f0/00/turkish-govt-army-strike-illegal.si.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSY1YmQ9D0p9ssdYcvfmxH-QS_k-QlgX8gd4pKbhA5dbLEnwjH6
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/main-images/000_Par8115485.jpg?itok=UAJePgzD
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRVtX_OTq96gwfmuH041XXVVViOLXz hrhCy34YI3Hs3z0G6YUwO
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ_wX53QR-glWulmdj0eUMBCxK3_lvtaivA51BFNpYbjA8qB8G1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQqiepqJxznSgpJHMaQdgnW4yuVe-P3Vi1IJwPqMwaeXaRedje
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTWjOYd_7JIdRt1n2ngpqih3hha4XK YlMjyDoNoOpW9M45oi62c
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-kurdish-community-protests-near-the-russian-embassy-to-denounce-picture-id908828622?s=612x612
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbIo2luo7DvVncJ3kconmga8rZi8v xmdfBNPHmLGwrZ1CG6oz_
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg

[Ion Basescul]

How many European faces you see among these Turks?


https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/main-images/000_Par8115485.jpg?itok=UAJePgzD
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRVtX_OTq96gwfmuH041XXVVViOLXz hrhCy34YI3Hs3z0G6YUwO
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ_wX53QR-glWulmdj0eUMBCxK3_lvtaivA51BFNpYbjA8qB8G1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQqiepqJxznSgpJHMaQdgnW4yuVe-P3Vi1IJwPqMwaeXaRedje
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTWjOYd_7JIdRt1n2ngpqih3hha4XK YlMjyDoNoOpW9M45oi62c
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-kurdish-community-protests-near-the-russian-embassy-to-denounce-picture-id908828622?s=612x612
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbIo2luo7DvVncJ3kconmga8rZi8v xmdfBNPHmLGwrZ1CG6oz_
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg



Would pass in Moscow, London, Paris, etc.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Truth? xD

This woman doesn't look Dinaric or Alpine at all, you delusional fool.
Most people in Turkey would assume she is Eastern. lol

Anyway, monkey, spare us from your opinions about others here, and speak only about your HellAss. No one is interested about your bullshits.

no she is not alpine except for the fact that her cephalic and facial indexes are both more alpine than Chamonix itself is

since "no one is interested in our Bullshits" you are free to get out of a thread about a Greek and go to any thread about your big fat bird

[brennus dux gallorum]

How many European faces you see among these Istanbul Turks?


https://cdni.rt.com/files/news/1f/72/f0/00/turkish-govt-army-strike-illegal.si.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSY1YmQ9D0p9ssdYcvfmxH-QS_k-QlgX8gd4pKbhA5dbLEnwjH6
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/main-images/000_Par8115485.jpg?itok=UAJePgzD
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRVtX_OTq96gwfmuH041XXVVViOLXz hrhCy34YI3Hs3z0G6YUwO
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ_wX53QR-glWulmdj0eUMBCxK3_lvtaivA51BFNpYbjA8qB8G1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQqiepqJxznSgpJHMaQdgnW4yuVe-P3Vi1IJwPqMwaeXaRedje
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTWjOYd_7JIdRt1n2ngpqih3hha4XK YlMjyDoNoOpW9M45oi62c
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-kurdish-community-protests-near-the-russian-embassy-to-denounce-picture-id908828622?s=612x612
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbIo2luo7DvVncJ3kconmga8rZi8v xmdfBNPHmLGwrZ1CG6oz_
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg



sadly this is how most of "Europeans" look in 2020.

[Kivan]

no she is not alpine except for the fact that her cephalic and facial indexes are both more alpine than Chamonix itself is

since "no one is interested in our Bullshits" you are free to get out of a thread about a Greek and go to any thread about your big fat bird

Ok, continue in your alternative world then.

[Kivan]

Would pass in Moscow, London, Paris, etc.

Majority of these people are not Turks.

These are Kurds, for example:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-kurdish-community-protests-near-the-russian-embassy-to-denounce-picture-id908828622?s=612x612

[Laag]

sadly this is how most of "Europeans" look in 2020.

They are typical Turks.

[Laag]

Majority of these people are not Turks.

These are Kurds, for example:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-kurdish-community-protests-near-the-russian-embassy-to-denounce-picture-id908828622?s=612x612

They look very Turkish.

[Ülev]

Would pass in Moscow, London, Paris, etc.

would not pass there (Berlin or Paris) until 1950, now you can find these people there

[eatensemn]

How many European faces you see among these Istanbul Turks?I don't see any because these are your picks. No one cares about what you think or try to show, sadly. Sorry :)

[Ion Basescul]

would not pass there (Berlin or Paris) until 1950, now you can find these people there

Well yes, we didn't live in the 50s, unless you are a grandpa, in which case please stay at home.

[Ülev]

https://youtu.be/vVo_L86xrRA

[Laag]

I don't see any because these are your picks. No one cares about what you think or try to show, sadly. Sorry :)

Europeans do not see the difference between Turks and their relatives Kurds, Azeris, Pakis, Indians and Gypsies.

[Ülev]

Well yes, we didn't live in the 50s, unless you are a grandpa, in which case please stay at home.

please smile when you'll be elderly, remembering today's words :)

[Ion Basescul]

please smile when you'll be elderly, remembering today's words :)

I will, I'm not scared of other colours and features :lol:

[eatensemn]

Europeans do not see the difference between Turks and their relatives Kurds, Azeris, Pakis, Indians and Gypsies.

Because they think only ME looking are turks and euro lookings are not. Dumbs like you for example, think that "how can a non-middle-eastern looking person can be turk?" Can't!. But unfortunately they can.

[Faklon]

Looks Dinaro-med and quite normal without much make-up.

https://alchetron.com/cdn/elena-paparizou-b2b5b13e-4010-41b0-8c69-496e5fdb397-resize-750.jpeg

Not Indo-Afghan enough to pass in Atlantodurkey

[eatensemn]

Looks Dinaro-med and quite normal without much make-up.I think she's closer to anatolid head shape. She even more resembles this site's morph. http://humanphenotypes.net/anatolidf.jpg

But anyway, perfect live-long pass for turkey without a doubt.

[Faklon]

http://humanphenotypes.net/anatolidf.jpg

Looks like Helly luv who is a very common Turk/Kurd.

https://ireadstateofplay.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/helly-luvk-kerkuk-1.jpg?w=1024

Not like this woman.

https://alchetron.com/cdn/elena-paparizou-b2b5b13e-4010-41b0-8c69-496e5fdb397-resize-750.jpeg

http://humanphenotypes.net/pontidf.jpg

Looks closer to Pontid from that site,

http://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html

But imo she's more of a Dinaro-med.

[Seya]

i always thought Alina Eremia looks like her somehow. maybe it's just me but i always make face-associations in my head )))
https://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12592339_667359603403875_5693094714392356569_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=85a577&_nc_eui2=AeHCrS5DJpWJSAYIb07683iFOflw7g60rP0cV56Xp YhCitYuqHsaBzMILFh9VHG7awR2gEufZVLe5-fxHmjB1qeHGYRBlp8fMzlKXLTFECN0JQ&_nc_ohc=hYirwRLw1-AAX_4gpDo&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp3-3.fna&oh=08d13bdd0c92f58de72db5d669da9339&oe=5EA767E0
https://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44136716_2243534382388023_6618843421190651904_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_eui2=AeGlT5u75YPWalK5A2IWDDptRqjx1YDwnlr3JCdLl nwhWSoEOmdBmpGPU6-DXb1HL3rPhje66v6IFYDpyGyzgTPPrEQK0txCkqB2_FCbaYuRO Q&_nc_ohc=Gy6L2LBoww8AX98bTkw&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp3-3.fna&oh=9a4265e3280f4f892217ca8bf5ac4c7c&oe=5EA7A96C
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU-YixtVEAEnv8N?format=jpg&name=medium
https://www.national.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/alina-eremia.jpg

[eatensemn]

But imo she's more of a Dinaro-med.Let's break the rules and accept anatolid? She already can pass perfectly with pontid in turkey as well, so it will change nothing.

[CommonSense]

Dinaro-Med

[eatensemn]

Anatolid or dinaro-med? I will upvote all the answers.

https://mediacdns.karnaval.com/media/album_media/3088/albumcover_400x400/album_media_3088_01.jpg?v=180413080232

[MinervaItalica]

Beautiful med goddess.

[brennus dux gallorum]

They are typical Turks.

and Europe is full of middle easterners and Turks nowadays

[IrisSelene]

She best passes in turkey i think. Spain and italy harder. Levant, as a tourist. Also bulgaria and romania should be posssible.


NW europeans can be recognised, but not by face. By skin. If they have thin, pinkish pale skin, which is extremely rare in turkey, it's easy to spot them. Otherwise, for example a tanned swede has no chance to get spotted by regular people. In your case, i would talk to you in turkish in a possible encounter :) Check this girl for the elle fanning vibe https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315226-Classify-amp-Pass-Turkish-blonde-from-izmir

Wow really? Such an incredible achievement. But if you want to start from somewhere, try one of the members. He's of yoruk (ancient turkic) descent. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311873-Classy-me-please

That's weird bc im pretty sure most if not all turkish members here before said I would barely pass there as a balkan turk maybe lol


No, Turkey is not exactly like US and many Europeans (especially NE Europeans) can't pass at all.

I've never seen any Turkish woman who looked like you. But i think your facial traits look a bit like the ones of this Yoga youtuber:

https://abload.de/img/39067226_280163639429mqjdz.jpg

Maybe the eyes/eyebrow area a bit lol


well, not exactly. Too wide faced to be common Greek

If thats a wide face then idk what you think about baltids lol

[IrisSelene]

i always thought Alina Eremia looks like her somehow. maybe it's just me but i always make face-associations in my head )))
https://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12592339_667359603403875_5693094714392356569_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=85a577&_nc_eui2=AeHCrS5DJpWJSAYIb07683iFOflw7g60rP0cV56Xp YhCitYuqHsaBzMILFh9VHG7awR2gEufZVLe5-fxHmjB1qeHGYRBlp8fMzlKXLTFECN0JQ&_nc_ohc=hYirwRLw1-AAX_4gpDo&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp3-3.fna&oh=08d13bdd0c92f58de72db5d669da9339&oe=5EA767E0
https://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44136716_2243534382388023_6618843421190651904_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_eui2=AeGlT5u75YPWalK5A2IWDDptRqjx1YDwnlr3JCdLl nwhWSoEOmdBmpGPU6-DXb1HL3rPhje66v6IFYDpyGyzgTPPrEQK0txCkqB2_FCbaYuRO Q&_nc_ohc=Gy6L2LBoww8AX98bTkw&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp3-3.fna&oh=9a4265e3280f4f892217ca8bf5ac4c7c&oe=5EA7A96C
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU-YixtVEAEnv8N?format=jpg&name=medium
https://www.national.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/alina-eremia.jpg

She kinda does, but Alina has a much softer look overall imo

[IrisSelene]

i personally vote for dinaro-med

[eatensemn]

That's weird bc im pretty sure most if not all turkish members here before said I would barely pass there as a balkan turk maybe lolThe mistake was considering some members' personal experiences as reference :) Show them some photos and let them guess the turk, success rate will not be any higher than %50 i believe (incl.me) cus any caucasoid can be turkish with a fair skin tone. You can pass as balkanite, northern caucasian, or even native anatolian. You can pass in black sea region, marmara region and aegean region without problem.

[CommonSense]

The mistake was considering some members' personal experiences as reference :) Show them some photos and let them guess the turk, success rate will not be any higher than %50 i believe (incl.me) cus any caucasoid can be turkish with a fair skin tone. You can pass as balkanite, northern caucasian, or even native anatolian. You can pass in black sea region, marmara region and aegean region without problem.

Northern Europeans can pass easily, but Arabs can't pass. Nice owd logic :rolleyes:

[Kivan]

The mistake was considering some members' personal experiences as reference :) Show them some photos and let them guess the turk, success rate will not be any higher than %50 i believe (incl.me) cus any caucasoid can be turkish with a fair skin tone. You can pass as balkanite, northern caucasian, or even native anatolian. You can pass in black sea region, marmara region and aegean region without problem.

No, she can't pass as Turkish at all, neither as Caucasian.
I've never seen any Turkish woman who looked like her.

[eatensemn]

Northern Europeans can pass easily, but Arabs can't pass. Nice owd logic :rolleyes:

If you can tan easily, you can pass easily. If you tan hardly, you can pass hardly thats my point and it's not owd. Turks are much better at spotting arabs, you can ask anyone.

[Kivan]

If you can tan easily, you can pass easily. If you tan hardly, you can pass hardly thats my point and it's not owd. Turks are much better at spotting arabs, you can ask anyone.

You are not very smart or is just trolling.

Please, i suggest you stop arguing with other users about things you don't know.
After all, the only think you reach is making other Turkish users here look dumb.

[CommonSense]

If you can tan easily, you can pass easily. If you tan hardly, you can pass hardly thats my point and it's not owd. Turks are much better at spotting arabs, you can ask anyone.

So your average Turk would guess this girl as one of their own?

https://livescandinavia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/norwegian-girls-feature-1.jpg

But, on the other hand, someone like this would be foreign?

https://st4.depositphotos.com/11461130/20287/i/1600/depositphotos_202870098-stock-photo-charming-arab-girl-with-a.jpg

OK :1127:

[eatensemn]

So your average Turk would guess this girl as one of their own?My average turk watching this on tv almost everyday.

https://img-s1.onedio.com/id-5e4916348697d2687b7f79ce/rev-0/w-635/listing/f-jpg-webp/s-cdc7ce22946348c72d6e5c687381755ecbb0ec11.webp

So you can decide how would they spot your girl as foreigner after all. Your hijab girl also not very arab looking, probably mixed. She can pass, too. But using a girl in hijab is not fair at this point. You better use average arab looking girl without hijab.

[brennus dux gallorum]

My average turk watching this on tv almost everyday.

https://img-s1.onedio.com/id-5e4916348697d2687b7f79ce/rev-0/w-635/listing/f-jpg-webp/s-cdc7ce22946348c72d6e5c687381755ecbb0ec11.webp

So you can decide how would they spot your girl as foreigner after all.
With a great difference being that anthropology is usually interested in natural traits instead of makeup. Without make up and


Your hijab girl also not very arab looking, probably mixed. She can pass, too. But using a girl in hijab is not fair at this point. You better use average arab looking girl without hijab.
Many Turkish women still wear hijabs, that's at least what i have seen myself in turkey, and with or without makeup her traits are far from rare

[eatensemn]

That's weird bc im pretty sure most if not all turkish members here before said I would barely pass there as a balkan turk maybe lol A quick google search, this ladies are for you cutie, they are from artvin (georgia border).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/AR2cxDbL-xNruczpASAM8UXcJoo0K2zn-FDp4ZmivXkjRebXm_PWh4WTIhLi_aR8M-Dix6ryneX3U4WaqO94IL0M4T9iaZd8Hlw8RlmwAzqWj__95PVC DNEaOiG7g-X-YwY-S_mW2tCC2IjBs18ln6KIKjW0PGxj93g1-O8

Btw i don't recommend to anyone to stick to kivan's turkish concept.

[Renekton]

She's to white to pass in MENA countries. Best fit Greece, Italy and Spain

[eatensemn]

With a great difference being that anthropology is usually interested in natural traits instead of makeup.Buddy, if you really respect to anthropology, you are already aware of turks are consisted of turkic, anatolian, balkan and caucasus stock with very little arab input. I don't think i have to prove that arab is less common in turkey than european by athropology. Problem is the effort on associating turks with arabs.

By anthropolgy, everything is obvious, i don't really need to explain anything.

[Kivan]

Btw i don't recommend to anyone to stick to kivan's turkish concept.

Neyden bahsediyorsun?
Niye bu tarz şeyler söylüyorsun? Bu kız türk değil ve sen yalnızca bir trollsun. Daha fazla uzatma yoksa report edeceğim.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Buddy, if you really respect to anthropology, you are already aware of turks are consisted of turkic, anatolian, balkan and caucasus stock with very little arab input. I don't think i have to prove that arab is less common in turkey than european by athropology. Problem is the effort on associating turks with arabs.

By anthropolgy, everything is obvious, i don't really need to explain anything.

I am aware, but for foreigners the Anatolian and Arab components are hard to distinguish

[Laag]

My average turk watching this on tv almost everyday.

https://img-s1.onedio.com/id-5e4916348697d2687b7f79ce/rev-0/w-635/listing/f-jpg-webp/s-cdc7ce22946348c72d6e5c687381755ecbb0ec11.webp


Accordint to Kivan she is typical Turkish woman.

[eatensemn]

I am aware, but for foreigners the Anatolian and Arab components are hard to distinguishThis is not an excuse to associate turks with arabs. Turks live in turkey, not foreigners. For example, who is the best in europe to spot a turk? Yes, german. It's obvious. So turks are really good at spotting arabs cus they know them and they look different, that's it.

[brennus dux gallorum]

This is not an excuse to associate turks with arabs. Turks live in turkey, not foreigners. For example, who is the best in europe to spot a turk? Yes, german. It's obvious. So turks are really good at spotting arabs cus they know them and they look different, that's it.

Don't worry, people in Europe often also don't make the difference between a east Indonesians and Vietnamese :D

[thenewestmember]

She's to white to pass in MENA countries. Best fit Greece, Italy and Spain

Southern Europeans usually look MENA

[Zeno]

Accordint to Kivan she is typical Turkish woman.

Y E S

[Zeno]

Southern Europeans usually look MENA

Nice one Dugashvili.

[Tauromachos]

I suppose you are new here to let you know most Greeks here don't like the notion of people passing in their country and
Lebanon,Syria at the same time

She looks more Greek Cypriot than Lebanese imo

[Zeno]

Truth? xD

This woman doesn't look Dinaric or Alpine at all, you delusional fool.
Most people in Turkey would assume she is Eastern. lol

Anyway, monkey, spare us from your opinions about others here, and speak only about your HellAss. No one is interested about your bullshits.

Kivan,

You're being the obsessed one here. You post way lighter Turks than the average, because you're relatively light yourself. You shouldn't judge based on yourself, BUT ON THE PEOPLE AS A WHOLE.

[Zeno]

I think she's closer to anatolid head shape. She even more resembles this site's morph. http://humanphenotypes.net/anatolidf.jpg

But anyway, perfect live-long pass for turkey without a doubt.

She's closer to Pontid.

[eatensemn]

The fact that you can find 1 million of helena in every region except Southeast in turkey.

[Kivan]

Kivan,

You're being the obsessed one here. You post way lighter Turks than the average, because you're relatively light yourself. You shouldn't judge based on yourself, BUT ON THE PEOPLE AS A WHOLE.

Stop with lies. These were some of the latest Turkish individuals i posted:

https://abload.de/img/16906436_5888030613186vktc.jpg
https://abload.de/img/merve-erdogan-10bk7l.jpg
https://abload.de/img/tsy8sltvkcjux.jpg
https://abload.de/img/88400671_100689374866z1j9d.jpg
https://abload.de/img/19984496_187536238611syj3h.jpg



The only lighter than the average i posted lately was this one:
https://abload.de/img/47585820_215355794803gvkj6.jpg


Anyway, now is forbidden to post light people in this forum? You post plenty of light atypical Greeks.

[Zeno]

Stop with lies. These were some of the latest Turkish individuals i posted:

https://abload.de/img/16906436_5888030613186vktc.jpg
https://abload.de/img/merve-erdogan-10bk7l.jpg
https://abload.de/img/tsy8sltvkcjux.jpg
https://abload.de/img/88400671_100689374866z1j9d.jpg
https://abload.de/img/19984496_187536238611syj3h.jpg



The only lighter than the average i posted lately was this one:
https://abload.de/img/47585820_215355794803gvkj6.jpg


Anyway, now is forbidden to post light people in this forum? You post plenty of light atypical Greeks.

All of them are atypical for Turkey. Atlanto-Meds and Alpine-Meds are frequent in Durkey? C'mon pal...

And lol, I've posted only a few light individuals. And they weren't atypical except from two cases, the one being the Trönder girl I posted on the Trönder examples thread. And they were atypical for phenotypical structure. Not pigmentation. Because, you've guessed it, blond hair and light eyes aren't rare amongst Greeks. In fact it's the opposite. They relatively common for southern Europe. Because our blonds are mainly Alpines or CMs. Pure Nordids aren't common, as they're 4-7% of the population at max. But anyways, we are a lot lighter than Turks on average.

And generally speaking, we Greeks are Atlanto-Med/Pontid/Alpine in our vast majority. You're not like that.

[Marmara]

The mistake was considering some members' personal experiences as reference :) Show them some photos and let them guess the turk, success rate will not be any higher than %50 i believe (incl.me) cus any caucasoid can be turkish with a fair skin tone. You can pass as balkanite, northern caucasian, or even native anatolian. You can pass in black sea region, marmara region and aegean region without problem.

Boş konuşuyorsun, kızın türke benzer hiçbir tarafı yok.

[Kivan]

All of them are atypical for Turkey. Atlanto-Meds and Alpine-Meds are frequent in Durkey? C'mon pal...

And lol, I've posted only a few light individuals. And they weren't atypical except from two cases, the one being the Trönder girl I posted on the Trönder examples thread. And they were atypical for phenotypical structure. Not pigmentation.

And generally speaking, we Greeks are Atlanto-Med/Pontid/Alpine in our vast majority. You're not like that.

All look typical/common and more typical than your Balkan Slavic-looking G00reeks:

https://foto.sondakika.com/haber/2018/06/19/iyi-parti-nin-duzce-mitingi-10964595_o.jpg
https://abload.de/img/dekan_dan_mmo_bursa_s7wfyd.jpg




Because, you've guessed it, blond hair and light eyes aren't rare amongst Greeks. In fact it's the opposite. They relatively common for southern Europe. Because our blonds are mainly Alpines or CMs. Pure Nordids aren't common, as they're 4-7% of the population at max. But anyways, we are a lot lighter than Turks on average.
True, that's why you are the blondest person i ever seen. My eyes bleed everytime i see your brightness/blondness.

[Marmara]

Neyden bahsediyorsun?
Niye bu tarz şeyler söylüyorsun? Bu kız türk değil ve sen yalnızca bir trollsun. Daha fazla uzatma yoksa report edeceğim.

She is most likely a sockpuppet of Indian user Rajputprincess.

[eatensemn]

Boş konuşuyorsun, kızın türke benzer hiçbir tarafı yok.

Kiz turke benziyor demedim, bunu sokakta gorsem yabanci diye donup de bakmam. Belki senin suran niye boyle diye sorarim hepsi bu. Yarin sabah bankada karsina ciksa durup bakar misin bu ne boyle diye? Bana yuz kere donup bakarsin buna bakmazsin.
,

[brennus dux gallorum]

All look typical/common and more typical than your Balkan Slavic-looking G00reeks:

https://foto.sondakika.com/haber/2018/06/19/iyi-parti-nin-duzce-mitingi-10964595_o.jpg
https://abload.de/img/dekan_dan_mmo_bursa_s7wfyd.jpg




True, that's why you are the blondest person i ever seen. My eyes bleed everytime i see your brightness/blondness.

Greeks don't look "balkan Slavic", where did you get that info?

As for the pics, as expected: east-alpinid, armenoid, anadolid, a few east meds and pontids

[Dorian]

With a quick look on a random turkish profile ,one can see the atlantids ..don't make me open threads.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100017006622127&sk=friends

[Marmara]

Kiz turke benziyor demedim, bunu sokakta gorsem yabanci diye donup de bakmam. Belki senin suran niye boyle diye sorarim hepsi bu. Yarin sabah bankada karsina ciksa durup bakar misin bu ne boyle diye? Bana yuz kere donup bakarsin buna bakmazsin.
,

İsveçliler bile Türk'e benziyorsa sana neden dönüp bakayım?

[Bestworld]

Paparizou is Dinarid-Dinaromed.And for gods shake,east med is a fake phenotype(TA creation bullshit).

[Tauromachos]

Paparizou is Dinarid-Dinaromed.And for gods shake,east med is a fake phenotype(TA creation bullshit).

Yeah she can even pass in Epiros

[Renekton]

Southern Europeans usually look MENA

OK boomer

[eatensemn]

İsveçliler bile Türk'e benziyorsa sana neden dönüp bakayım?

Bos bir laf isveclilerin bile hepsi birbirine benzemiyor. Biraz guneste yanarsalar coguna %100 turk degil diyemezsin.

[Bestworld]

Yeah she can even pass in Epiros

She has vlach origins.So yes..she can pass everywhere in mainland thought!!!

[Tauromachos]

She has vlach origins.So yes..she can pass everywhere in mainland thought!!!

Realy i didn't expect her to have considering the surname

Interesting

[Marmara]

Bos bir laf isveclilerin bile hepsi birbirine benzemiyor. Biraz guneste yanarsalar coguna %100 turk degil diyemezsin.

Peki, en azından sonunda türkçe konuştun da gerçekten türk müsün öğrenmiş olduk.

[itilvolga]

Kiz turke benziyor demedim, bunu sokakta gorsem yabanci diye donup de bakmam. Belki senin suran niye boyle diye sorarim hepsi bu. Yarin sabah bankada karsina ciksa durup bakar misin bu ne boyle diye? Bana yuz kere donup bakarsin buna bakmazsin.
,

Sana da bakmayız ona da. Burası Türkiye, Türkçe konuşan ve Türküm diyen çekik gözlü, esmer, kızıl, sarışın envai çeşit insan bulabilirsin ve hiçbirine kalkıp da “sen Türk’e benzemiyorsun Türk değilsin” demiyoruz elbette. Bu kadının Türk olarak geçmesi tabii ki imkansız değil ama yurtdışında veya turistik yerlerde görsem asla “bu kesin Türktür” demem biz böyle derken ayda yılda bir Türkiye’ye gelen birinin bu konuda bu kadar ısrar etmesi tuhaf.

[Tauromachos]

Where is anaximander to tell us about mainland greeks who passing in the levant rofl

He is coming to answer soon

He can't refrain from answering and proving that Mainland Greeks are even lighter than Serbs

[eatensemn]

Sana da bakmayız ona da. Burası Türkiye, Türkçe konuşan ve Türküm diyen çekik gözlü, esmer, kızıl, sarışın envai çeşit insan bulabilirsin ve hiçbirine kalkıp da “sen Türk’e benzemiyorsun Türk değilsin” demiyoruz elbette. Bu kadının Türk olarak geçmesi tabii ki imkansız değil ama yurtdışında veya turistik yerlerde görsem asla “bu kesin Türktür” demem biz böyle derken ayda yılda bir Türkiye’ye gelen birinin bu konuda bu kadar ısrar etmesi tuhaf.Tamam ben de bunu diyorum bu pass kavrami ile kesin turktur deme olayi ayni sey degil.

[itilvolga]

Tamam ben de bunu diyorum bu pass kavrami ile kesin turktur deme olayi ayni sey degil.

Hayır öyle demiyorsun. İlk postunda en iyi Türkiye’de geçer dedin, hiç de öyle değil.

[eatensemn]

Hayır öyle demiyorsun. İlk postunda en iyi Türkiye’de geçer dedin, hiç de öyle değil.Yunanistan disinda en yakin oldugu grup bizim bati anadolu insani. Ben cok yeri gezdim daglara koylere kadar helenaya ikizi gibi benzeyen milyon tane turk kizi bulabilirim. Baska yazmiyorum.

[Bornoz]

All of them are atypical for Turkey. Atlanto-Meds and Alpine-Meds are frequent in Durkey? C'mon pal...

And lol, I've posted only a few light individuals. And they weren't atypical except from two cases, the one being the Trönder girl I posted on the Trönder examples thread. And they were atypical for phenotypical structure. Not pigmentation. Because, you've guessed it, blond hair and light eyes aren't rare amongst Greeks. In fact it's the opposite. They relatively common for southern Europe. Because our blonds are mainly Alpines or CMs. Pure Nordids aren't common, as they're 4-7% of the population at max. But anyways, we are a lot lighter than Turks on average.

And generally speaking, we Greeks are Atlanto-Med/Pontid/Alpine in our vast majority. You're not like that.

Every single one of them is typical. From lightest to darkest
I've just checked your classification thread. You classify yourself as Pontid as I can see from your bio. According to things that you say you are supposed to be a Western looking atypical guy at most but if you would be Turkish I would guess you as a Central Anatolian. Spesifically you look like you are from Sivas or Kayseri. How is that even possible? :lol:

[itilvolga]

Yunanistan disinda en yakin oldugu grup bizim bati anadolu insani. Ben cok yeri gezdim daglara koylere kadar helenaya ikizi gibi benzeyen milyon tane turk kizi bulabilirim. Baska yazmiyorum.

Yazma bence de bilgi kirliliği yapıyorsun.

[Bornoz]

Yunanistan disinda en yakin oldugu grup bizim bati anadolu insani. Ben cok yeri gezdim daglara koylere kadar helenaya ikizi gibi benzeyen milyon tane turk kizi bulabilirim. Baska yazmiyorum.

Hatun Doğulu duruyor epey ya

[Anaximander]

He is coming to answer soon

He can't refrain from answering and proving that Mainland Greeks are even lighter than Serbs

She doesnt look east med enough.

[Voskos]

A quick google search, this ladies are for you cutie, they are from artvin (georgia border).

very typical turks. they look like the ones I see irl.

[eatensemn]

Hatun Doğulu duruyor epey yaBazi fotograflarinda hadisenin biraz esmeri gibi duruyor. Her turlu sonucta turkiyede yaygin bulunmayan bir tip olamaz.

https://creativelighting.gr/wp-content/uploads/helena-paparizou-650x3251-650x325.jpg

[Marmara]

By the way, i agree that she looks Eastern, more Kurdish.

[Tauromachos]

She doesnt look east med enough.

Realy?

Does she pass in your village?

[Bornoz]

Bazi fotograflarinda hadisenin biraz esmeri gibi duruyor. Her turlu sonucta turkiyede yaygin bulunmayan bir tip olamaz.

https://creativelighting.gr/wp-content/uploads/helena-paparizou-650x3251-650x325.jpg

Çok yaygın demeyelim de yabancı gibi durmuyor evet

[mergen3]

Bazi fotograflarinda hadisenin biraz esmeri gibi duruyor. Her turlu sonucta turkiyede yaygin bulunmayan bir tip olamaz.

https://creativelighting.gr/wp-content/uploads/helena-paparizou-650x3251-650x325.jpgÇok fazla solaryuma gidiyor bence :) Sokakta görsem Zaza veya hatay,adana ve mersin hattındaki Nusayriler aklıma gelirdi. Türklere uzak bir fenotipi yok ama yaygın değil

Redmi Note 7 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

[Voskos]

According to this study from 2014, Greeks are 10% Iranic while Turks are only 8.5%.I guess this explains why she looks Kurdish to some.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

[eatensemn]

According to this study from 2014, Greeks are 10% Iranic while Turks are only 8.5%King Leonidas tried to prevent, but unfortunately he failed. Still respect to him&his soldiers.

[Voskos]

King Leonidas tried to prevent, but unfortunately he failed. Still respect to him&his soldiers.

10% is not much. We were neighbours with them before your arrival.

[Bornoz]

According to this study from 2014, Greeks are 10% Iranic while Turks are only 8.5%.I guess this explains why she looks Kurdish to some.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

We are a lot more closer to Iranians tho

[Voskos]

We are a lot more closer to Iranians tho

Possible, especially in terms of plotting and genetic distances. I'm just repeating what the study says concerning direct admixture.

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Doesn't look georgian or does she look georgian ?
She looks very iranian to me

[Voskos]

Doesn't look georgian or does she look georgian?She looks very iranian to me

In turkey what would you guess her?

[Kyp]

According to this study from 2014, Greeks are 10% Iranic while Turks are only 8.5%.I guess this explains why she looks Kurdish to some.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

Another case of bullshit study. Iranians are 33% Turkish (from Turkey)? What does that even mean

[Reis-i Cumhur]

In turkey what would you guess her?

East Anatolian.She can pass as an Azeri but not kurdish

[Kyp]

East Anatolian.She can pass as an Azeri but not kurdish

The Anatolid Kurd has spoken

[Voskos]

The Anatolid Kurd has spoken

you see her in azerbaijan, what do you guess her?

[Kyp]

you see her in azerbaijan, what do you guess her?

Lebanese, Syrian, Moroccan, Convert from Turkey ...

East Med in general

[Dušan]

Good looking woman and great singer.

[Reis-i Cumhur]

The Anatolid Kurd has spoken

Iranian cuck go back to your shithole

[thenewestmember]

Doesn't look georgian or does she look georgian ?
She looks very iranian to me

might pass but I think she passes better in Greece, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon

[GoalPoacher]

Which part of Greece is she from?