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The Blade
04-24-2020, 05:49 PM
American actress and singer. Obviously a natural brunette. I classify her as Trønder.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTg1MjEyODgyNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwODI4MTU1._V1_U Y1200_CR103,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
https://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Less+Noise+More+Music+Lucky+Brand+Presents+ToBg8AU fw7yl.jpg
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3803927.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/Jeanine-Heller-and-Taryn-Manning.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/f5/b6/41f5b6fdd644eadd81c73721c6797a85.jpg
https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/f754ec631dc1b0699c27c6f184ef3ddd/cel-0520jld-gm040.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hawaii-50/images/5/57/Taryn.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20140208215455&path-prefix=fr
https://limaomecanico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/taryn-manning.jpg
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2019625/rs_600x600-190725085641-600-taryn-manning-instagram-072519.jpg?fit=around|1200:1200&crop=1200:1200;center,top&output-quality=90
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https://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/0/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p290120/tarynmanning-5.jpg
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Ülev
04-24-2020, 05:51 PM
Borreby
just can't be Trønder with brown/green eyes

Kivan
04-24-2020, 07:04 PM
Tronder.

Ülev
04-24-2020, 07:08 PM
please follow TA standards

The Trønder is typically blue-eyed, and light-mixed blue is the predominant color. The hair is wavy and ranges in color from darkish brown to golden blond. Rufosity is common, whereas ash-blond shades, a typical Hallstatt Nordic trait, are rarer. The skin is coarser in texture and tougher than regular Nordid skin, and the hair is more abundant on beard and body.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-tronder.htm

XenophobicPrussian
04-25-2020, 02:02 AM
dp

XenophobicPrussian
04-25-2020, 02:05 AM
Borreby
just can't be Trønder with brown/green eyes
If anything Borrebies would be more blue eyed than Tronders.

but yeah, Alpine+Faelid/CM.

Zroota
04-25-2020, 06:48 AM
More Borreby to me

The Blade
05-04-2020, 10:01 AM
I have stated this before but a reminder, again:
Corded Ware people were related to those of Yamnaya who were often brown-eyed and brown to dark-haired. Later a partial depigmentation happened but still the type is variable in terms of both hair and eye colour (both brunet/dark and blond/light features are present):
''Examination of physical remains of the Yamnaya people has determined that they were Europoid, tall, and massively built. Their cephalic index varies depending on the region, with brachycephaly being prevalent in its southern and southeastern areas, and dolichocephaly being prevalent in its northerneastern areas.

The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA studies conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al. (2014) and Mathieson et al. (2015): they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European. Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.''
Taken from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture
''A genetic study conducted by Haak et al. (2015) found that a large proportion of the ancestry of the Corded Ware culture's population is similar to the Yamna culture, tracing the Corded Ware culture's origins to migrations of the Yamna from the steppes 4,500 years ago. About 75% of the DNA of late Neolithic Corded Ware skeletons found in Germany was a precise match to DNA from individuals of the Yamna culture. The same study estimated a 40–54% ancestral contribution of the Yamna in the DNA of modern Central & Northern Europeans, and a 20–32% contribution in modern Southern Europeans, excluding Sardinians (7.1% or less), and to a lesser extent Sicilians (11.6% or less). Haak et al. also note that their results "suggest" that haplogroups R1b and R1a "spread into Europe from the East after 3,000 BCE."

Autosomal DNA tests also indicate that westward migration from the steppes introduced a component of ancestry referred to as "Ancient North Eurasian" admixture into western Europe."Ancient North Eurasian" is the name given in genetic literature to a component that represents descent from the people of the Mal'ta-Buret' culture or a population closely related to them. The "Ancient North Eurasian" genetic component is visible in tests of the Yamna people as well as modern-day Europeans, but not of Western or Central Europeans predating the Corded Ware culture.

Haak et al. (2015) also warned:

We caution that the sampled Yamna individuals from Samara might not be directly ancestral to Corded Ware individuals from Germany. It is possible that a more western Yamna population, or an earlier (pre-Yamna) steppe population may have migrated into central Europe, and future work may uncover more missing links in the chain of transmission of steppe ancestry.
— W. Haak et al., Nature (2015)''
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture
Tronder, as a partly Corded type, can be brown or green-eyed.

Immanenz
05-04-2020, 10:10 AM
Borreby (or AlpineCm) with Atlantid making her head smaller, more low vaulted etc.
not Troender in my book, too short faced and very Alpinoid looking...
She does not look Yamnaya also, more Paleo European- directly from the Ofnet cave, if you want me to be specific

XenophobicPrussian
05-04-2020, 11:06 AM
Borreby with Atlantid making her head smaller, more low vaulted etc.
not Troender in my book
She does not look Yamnaya also, more Paleo European
Yamnaya would've looked like a more robust version of Artem Lobov or the less east Eurasian shifted looking Volga Tatars based on where they genetically clustered. The phenotypical link between steppe populations and NW Euros/Nordics is a creation of biased anthropologists. I don't see Borreby(Kirsten Dunst, the woman she's with in the last 2 pics, is a much better example) personally, the CM/Faelid overall is very visible, but still mixed because dark eyes are a clear sign of neolithic influence, WHGs were nearly 100% blue eyed.

Immanenz
05-04-2020, 11:17 AM
Yamnaya would've looked like a more robust version of Artem Lobov or the less east Eurasian shifted looking Volga Tatars based on where they genetically clustered. The phenotypical link between steppe populations and NW Euros/Nordics is a creation of biased anthropologists. I don't see Borreby(Kirsten Dunst, the woman she's with in the last 2 pics, is a much better example) personally, the CM/Faelid overall is very visible, but still mixed because dark eyes are a clear sign of neolithic influence, WHGs were nearly 100% blue eyed.

i edited my post. Borrebies are partially alpinized Cm (especially if you compare many modern examples with many Borrebies of nowadays) even if the old WHGs had only light eyes, it occur nowadays that individuals can have other eye colour. But as i wrote she has an Atlantid influence in my book anyway, for example i dont see the Faelid. Regarding Op: she looks Ofnet-Alpine type, a look common in Centraleuro, France, that alpinization/reduction took over also in more northern Cms like Borreby for whatever reason it may was.
About Yamnaya look i m speculating of dark Kurganoid individuals, this guy looks like Pontid with minor Turanid, but Pontid has been speculated to be part of the Yamnaya as well, so it could make sense. We should not forget the Dniepr Donetsk culture where robust EHG/WHG mixes, therefor ProtoEuropid/Cm skulls were also part of Yamnaya at least partially, unlike maybe some authors claim.

The Blade
05-04-2020, 11:25 AM
i edited my post. Borrebies are partially alpinized Cm (especially if you compare many modern examples with many Borrebies of nowadays) even if the old WHGs had only light eyes, it occur nowadays that individuals can have other eye colour. But as i wrote she has an Atlantid influence in my book anyway, for example i dont see the Faelid. Regarding Op: she looks Ofnet-Alpine type, a look common in Centraleuro, France, that alpinization/reduction took over also in more northern Cms like Borreby for whatever reason it may was.
About Yamnaya look i m speculating of dark Kurganoid individuals, this guy looks like Pontid with minor Turanid, but Pontid has been speculated to be part of the Yamnaya as well, so it could make sense. We should not forget the Dniepr Donetsk culture where robust EHG/WHG mixes, therefor ProtoEuropid/Cm skulls were also part of Yamnaya at least partially, unlike maybe some authors claim.
The Faelid in her is very obvious, while I don't see Borreby/Alpine or Atlantid/Med at all.

Kivan
05-04-2020, 11:29 AM
Borreby (or AlpineCm) with Atlantid making her head smaller, more low vaulted etc.
not Troender in my book, too short faced and very Alpinoid looking...
She does not look Yamnaya also, more Paleo European- directly from the Ofnet cave, if you want me to be specific

Borrebies and Alpines are brachycephalic, this woman in the OP is rather Meso. Look at her profile side photo.
And she is not short faced at all, neither face or forehead.

Compare with this girl who in my opinion is Alpine:
https://dataprojectimagestorage.blob.core.windows.net/lnv/TeamPlayer/TeamPlayer_346_2836.jpg


Small skull, rounded and short face/forehead, unlike the OP.

zeybek
05-04-2020, 11:30 AM
She looks robust Alpinid. Borreby?

Immanenz
05-04-2020, 11:34 AM
Borrebies and Alpines are brachycephalic, this woman in the OP is rather Meso. Look at her profile side photo.
And she is not short faced at all, neither face or forehead.

Compare with this girl who in my opinion is Alpine:
https://dataprojectimagestorage.blob.core.windows.net/lnv/TeamPlayer/TeamPlayer_346_2836.jpg


Small skull, rounded and short face/forehead, unlike the OP.

as i wrote above, she has obviously something that makes her head smaller and longer, i think its Borreby or AlpineCm + Atlantid, other user says its Alpine + Faelid, both ways it works.

Xacal
03-11-2024, 10:15 PM
Alpinid
https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/GettyImages-1201585502jpg-JS565416110.jpg

SocietyIslands
03-11-2024, 11:21 PM
Predominantly Alpine + CM, but looks almost part black in some pics. Such is the life of the amerimutt.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/Tiffany_Doggett_Elle.jpg